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    The Lucis Trust

    The Lucis Trust is the Publishing House which prints and disseminates United Nations material. It is a devastating indictment of the New Age and Pagan nature of the UN. Lucis Trust was established in 1922 as Lucifer Trust by Alice Bailey as the publishing company to disseminate the books of Bailey and Blavatsky and the Theosophical Society. The title page of Alice Bailey's book, 'Initiation, Human and Solar' was originally printed in 1922, and clearly shows the publishing house as 'Lucifer Publishing CoIn 1923.'

    Bailey changed the name to Lucis Trust, because Lucifer Trust revealed the true nature of the New Age Movement too clearly. (Constance Cumbey, The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow, p. 49). A quick trip to any New Age bookstore will reveal that many of the hard-core New Age books are published by Lucis Trust.

    At one time, the Lucis Trust office in New York was located at 666 United Nations Plaza and is a member of the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations under a slick program called "World Goodwill". In an Alice Bailey book called "Education for a New Age"; she suggests that in the new age "World Citizenship should be the goal of the enlightened, with a world federation and a world brain." In other words - a One World Government New World Order.

    Luci's Trust is sponsored by among others Robert McNamara, former minister of Defense in the USA, president of the World Bank, member of the Rockefeller Foundation, and Thomas Watson (IBM, former ambassador in Moscow). Luci's Trust sponsors among others the following organizations:
    • UN
    • Greenpeace International
    • Greenpeace USA
    • Amnesty International
    • UNICEF
    The United Nations has long been one of the foremost world harbingers for the "New Spirituality" and the gathering "New World Order" based on ancient occult and freemasonic principles. Seven years after the birth of the UN, a book was published by the theosophist and founder of the Lucis Trust, Alice Bailey, claiming that,
    "Evidence of the growth of the human intellect along the needed receptive lines [for the preparation of the New Age] can be seen in the "planning" of various nations and in the efforts of the United Nations to formulate a world plan... From the very start of this unfoldment, three occult factors have governed the development of all these plans"
    [Alice B. Bailey, Discipleship in the New Age (Lucis Press, 1955), Vol. II, p.35.]
    Although she did not spell out clearly the identity of these 'three occult factors', she did reveal to her students that,
    "Within the United Nations is the germ and seed of a great international and meditating, reflective group - a group of thinking and informed men and women in whose hands lies the destiny of humanity. This is largely under the control of many fourth ray disciples, if you could but realize it, and their point of meditative focus is the intuitional or Buddhic plane - the plane upon which all hierarchical activity is today to be found"
    [Ibid. p.220.]
    To this end, the Lucis Trust, under the leadership of Foster and Alice Bailey, started a group called 'World Goodwill' - an official non-governmental organization within the United Nations. The stated aim of this group is,
    "to cooperate in the world of preparation for the reappearance of the Christ"
    [One Earth, the magazine of the Findhorn Foundation, October/November 1986, Vol. 6, Issue 6, p.24.]
    But the esoteric work inside the UN does not stop with such recognized occult groupings. Much of the impetus for this process was initiated through the officership of two Secretary-Generals of the UN, Dag Hammarskjöld (held office: 1953-1961) and U Thant (held office: 1961-1971) who succeeded him, and one Assistant Secretary-general, Dr. Robert Muller. In a book written to celebrate the philosophy of Teilhard de Chardin (and edited by Robert Muller), it is revealed,
    "Dag Hammarskjöld, the rational Nordic economist, had ended up as a mystic. He too held at the end of his life that spirituality was the ultimate key to our earthly fate in time and space"
    [Robert Muller (ed.), The Desire to be Human: A Global Reconnaissance of Human Perspectives in an Age of Transformation (Miranana, 1983), p.304.]
    Sri Chinmoy, the New Age guru, meditation leader at the UN, wrote:
    "the United Nations is the chosen instrument of God; to be a chosen instrument means to be a divine messenger carrying the banner of God's inner vision and outer manifestation."
    William Jasper, author of "A New World Religion" describes the religion of the UN:
    "...a weird and diabolical convergence of New Age mysticism, pantheism, aboriginal animism atheism, communism, socialism, Luciferian occultism, apostate Christianity, Islam, Taoism, Buddhism, and Hinduism".
    At http://www.lucistrust.org you can find out much more about them and how they're involved with the work of the United Nations by following their link "World Goodwill" at the top of their home page.


    The Aquarian Age Community

    This Website is sponsored by the United Nations and the whole NWO philosophy is there. The page which explains the work of the Aquarian Age Community, as they call themselves, has this proud quote at the header of their page:
    Such a grandeur is ahead!
    Such a great step awaits a fiery affirmation.
    Our teaching and the affirmation of the Higher
    Principles will reveal so much that is great to humanity!
    A great period is drawing near: Thus we do create together.
    Fiery World
    Vol. III, par. 149
    Amongst the many 'enlightening' pages in this website, you can easily find 'fascinating' articles entitled:
    • "The New World Order and the Work of the UN"
    • "The World Spiritual Teacher, the Esoteric Community and the United Nations"
    • "Preparing the Way for the Reappearance of the World Spiritual Teacher, the Work of the United Nations and the World-Wide Esoteric Community" and many more articles.
    This is not Christian theology but New Age paganism. You can also read the NWO quotes I posted, further down this page. Here's another by Curtis Dall, FD Roosevelt's son in law as quoted in his book, My Exploited Father in Law:
    "For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and ideas that were his own to benefit this country, the United States. But, he didn't. Most of his thoughts, his political ammunition, as it were, were carefully manufactured for him in advanced by the Council on Foreign Relations One World Money group...

    Brilliantly, with great gusto, like a fine piece of artillery, he exploded that prepared "ammunition" in the middle of an unsuspecting target, the American people, and thus paid off and returned his internationalist political support.

    The UN is but a long range, international banking apparatus nearly set up for financial and economic profit by a small group of powerful One World Revolutionaries, hungry for profit and power.

    The depression was the calculated 'shearing' of the public by the World Money powers, triggered by the planned sudden shortage of supply of call money in the New York money market... The One World Government leaders and their ever close bankers have now acquired full control of the money and credit machinery of the U.S. via the creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank."

    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...ucytrust04.htm



    Lucis Trust, Alice Bailey and the connections with the Rockefellers, NWO


    Lucis (Lucifer) Trust, Alice Bailey, World Goodwill and the 'Light of the World'.

    "Alice Ann Bailey, a leading disciple of the Russian theosophist Madame Helena Blavatsky, formed the Lucifer Trust in 1920. 1922 saw the organization's name changed to Lucis Trust though the advancement of the Luciferian beliefs remained true. Beliefs that in Blavatsky's words,"oppose the materialism of science and every dogmatic theology, especially the Christian, which the Chiefs of the Society regard as particularly pernicious."

    Lucis Trust promulgates the work of an "Ascended Master" who was working 'through' Alice Bailey for some 30 years. The Lucis Trust Publishing Company and their many fronts and organizations worship an "Externalized Hierarchy" of "Ascended Masters," who carry out the work of a Luciferian "master plan" for the establishment of a permanent "Age of Aquarius" ruled by one "Sanat Kumara", the "Lord of the World."

    This is no ordinary third rate organisation. Lucis Trust is a powerful institution that enjoys "Consultative Status" with the United Nations, which permits it to have a close working relationship with the U.N., including a seat on the weekly sessions, but most importantly influence with powerful business and national leaders throughout the world.

    The Lucis Trust is as much a political organization as an occult religious one. Aptly promoting a globalist ideology, Lucis Trust founded its World Goodwill, which is closely connected to international elitist circles. Authors and participants in its various conferences read like a Who's Who of globalist insiders. Featured on its website, for example, is the Universal Declaration of Human Responsibilities, put forth in April 1998 as a companion document to the notorious UN Universal Declaration on Human Rights. Signatories to the World Goodwill document: Helmut Schmidt, former Chancellor of West Germany; Malcom Frasier, former Australian Prime Minister; Shimon Perez; Robert McNamara; Paul Volcke; Jimmy Carter and Pierre Trudeau among others.

    Lucis Trust is run through an international board of trustees whose membership is said to have included: John D. Rockefeller; Norman Cousins; Robert S. McNamara; Thomas Watson, Jr. (IBM, former U.S. Ambassador to Moscow); Henry Clauson Grand Commander of the Supreme Council, 33rd Degree, Southern District Scottish Rite and Henry Kissinger. This would then tie Bailey's influential occult organization into the international conspiracy of elitists, including the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the Bilderbergs, and the Trilateral Commission.

    I've been able to confirm some of these connections through Lucis Trust's involvement in the Windsor International Bank and Trust Company, where on its site, the Windsor Bank plainly states that its "a Member of, Advisor to, Affiliate of, Friend of, Benefactor of, or Contributor to, the following Organizations, to name several:"

    International Fund For Development
    The Hall Family Foundation
    The Rockefeller Foundation
    WHO/Habitat For Humanity
    The Lucis Trust (NGO); United Nations
    National Resources Defense Council
    Capital Missions Company
    Investors Circle
    The Coca-Cola Foundation
    Fellowship For International Education
    International Monetary Agency
    International Center For Educational Advancement
    Christian Children's Fund (Worldwide)
    BAMPAC (Black America's Political Action)
    Fellowship For Reconciliation
    National Institute For the Advancement Of Science
    International Association For Environmental Cooperation
    World Wildlife Federation
    Council On Foreign Relations (CFR)
    CARICOM
    NAFTA
    MERCOSOR
    Council Of Emerging Nations
    Freedom Communications, Inc.
    The European Institute (Foreign Affairs Magazine)
    United Nations Association of The USA
    The NAACP (National Association of Colored People)
    The Royal Heritage Charitable Relief Fund"

    learn more here.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...ucytrust04.htm

    The new-age movement consists of very basic truths mixed with very tricky and disempowering lies and the ommisions of very important info and techniques...another clever control system like any other religion..
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    Shiva, you always astound me with the massive amount of data that you present.

    Thank you for sharing what you have with the forum. It doesn't fall on deaf ears:-)
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    Hi Shiva,
    I've always seen your posts against new age but I don't read them because I've never had any interest in it.
    This time I'd like to ask you please explain to me what exactly is new age? Is it the same as metaphysics? What's the difference or similarity?

    If it's not too much to ask, can you please give me a nice explanation that is not copy and paste? I'd rather read a simple explanation that pages and pages of bla bla because as with any subject it can be quite extensive.

    Thank you in advance.

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    Great post, Shiva!

    I did a similar research on the subject which lead me to dismantling of beliefs ....it was a wild ride.

    So many channelers now are trying to sell the NWO movement so hard and it just blows me away that it's being eaten up by so many. I've tried to open the eyes of other "lightworkers", however, they seem totally oblivious to what's going on.

    I also see how this could back-fire on tptb if people can awaken from this "trance" state they have fallen into.

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    ''When the white man first came to Australia, he had the bible and we had the land. He said let us close our eyes and pray, we did, and when we opened our eyes... we had the bible and he had the land.''

    Now, I like that quotation, BUT I think it doesn't matter whether you say "bible" or "koran" or whatever religious text you want to put into that concept. So, I don't mean to imply a criticism of Christianity or any other religion. What I do mean to say is this: WE get caught up easily in questions of religion. For instance, in discussions about the NWO people say that THEY are Satanists. Then you can go into a long analysis about that and its all very interesting. HOWEVER, I have three points to make here:
    1. these wealthy people aren't any religion; they don't frigging believe in anything but MONEY so we can try to figure then out from a religious point of view until we drop and it will be all very interesting and take up a great deal of time and we all get to lose our focus because at the bottom of it all; they believe in NOTHING but right here, right now and how much money they have in their offshore bank accounts;
    2. they give US the religion for purposes of manipulation and maybe its a trade off. I mean we are so obviously fascinated with religion it gives us something to take our minds off the fact that all our money is being ripped off and we are working like slaves.
    3. While we are thinking of our nice religious ideas, we aren't thinking street smart.

    Having said that, I do have questions about the Theosophical Sociiety. I've been watching them for many years. IN the 80s I saw Benjamin Creme talking on prime time TV three nights in a row about how Christ was back on earth. He said it was Matreiyah (spelling?). He's a great speaker. I was surprised because if you listened to him long enough you would start to believe him. What I thought of later though was this: Where TF did the Theosophical society get the money to pay for that. (the only Theosophical society I knew was two little old ladies in the office next to mine in an old heritage building -- didn't seem to have any money....and then BLAM Benjamin Creme on prime time). Now the other thing is this: Zeitgeist is at least in part based on Jordan Maxwell, who, as far as I know is a theosophist. (Madam Blavatsky as far as I know hated Christianity) So where does all this lead and does it matter. My mother was an animist. I believe in all religions. Does it matter except from the point of view that it distracts people from the real issues which is these FAT NWO Assholes screwing around with our heads and our bank accounts....not to mentioned deliberately destroying the environment.
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    Dear Shiva, I hope my posting this in your thread is okay... it is a beautiful/touching true story. If not, let me know and I will delete it.... PS Thanks for this thread!

    ~CAUGHT BETWEEN TWO WORLDS~

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    AN INDIAN FATHER PLEADS WITH HIS SON'S TEACHER TO RECOGNIZE THE BOY'S CULTURAL TRADITION AND PERSONAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

    Dear teacher,
    I would like to introduce you to my son, Wind-Wolf. He is probably what you would consider a typical Indian kid. He was born and raised on the reservation. He has black hair, dark brown eyes, an an olive complexion. And like so many Indian children his age, he is shy and quiet in the classroom. He is 5 years old, in kindergarten, and I can't understand why you have already labeled him a "slow learner."
    At the age of 5, he has already been through quite an education compared with his peers in Western society. As his first introduction into this world, he was bonded to his mother and to the Mother Earth in a traditional native childbirth ceremony. And he has been continuously cared for by his mother, father, sister, cousins, aunts, uncles, grandparents, and extended tribal family since this ceremony.
    From his mother's warm and loving arms, Wind-Wolf was placed in a secure and specially designed Indian baby basket. His father and the medicine elders conducted another ceremony with him that served to bond him with the essence of his genetic father, the Great Spirit, the Grandfather Sun, and the Grandmother Moon. This was all done in order to introduce him properly into the new and natural world, not the world of artificiality, and to protect his sensitive and delicate soul. It is our people's way of showing the newborn respect, ensuring that he starts his life on the path of spirituality.
    The traditional Indian baby basket became his "turtle's shell" and served as the first seat for his classroom. He was strapped in for safety, protected from injury by the willow roots and hazel wood construction. The basket was made by a tribal elder who had gathered her materials with prayer and in a ceremonial way. It is the same kind of basket that our people have used for thousands of years. It is specially designed to provide the child with the kind of knowledge and experience he will need in order to survive in his culture and environment.
    Wind-Wolf was strapped in snugly with a deliberate restriction upon his arms and legs. Although you in Western society may argue that such a method serves to hinder motor-skill developement and abstract reasoning, we believe it forces the child to first develop his intuitive faculties, rational intellect, symbolic thinking, and five senses. Wind-Wolf was with his mother constantly, closely bonded physically, as she carried him on her back or held him in front while breastfeeding. She carried him everywhere she went, and every night he slept with both parents. Because of this, Wind-Wolf's educational setting was not only a "secure" environment, but it was also very colorful, complicated, sensitive, and diverse. He has been with his mother at the ocean at daybreak when she made her prayers and gathered fresh seaweed from the rocks, he has sat with his uncles in a rowboat on the river while they fished with gill nets, and he has listened to elders as they told creation stories and animal legends and sang songs around the campfires.
    He has attended the sacred and ancient White Deerskin Dance of his people and is well-acquainted with the cultures and languages of other tribes. He has been with his mother when she gathered herbs for healing and watched his tribal aunts and grandmothers gather and prepare tradtional foods such as acorn, smoked salmon, eel, and deer meat. He has played with abalone shells, pine nuts, iris grass string, and leather while watching the women make beaded jewelry and traditional native regalia. He has had many opportunities to watch his father, uncles,and ceremonial leaders use different kinds of colorful feathers and sing different kinds of songs while preparing for the sacred dances and rituals.
    As he grew older, Wind-Wolf began to crawl out of the baby basket, develop his motor skills, and explore the world around him. When frightened or sleepy, he could always return to the basket, as a turtle withdraws into its shell. Such an inward journey allows one to reflect in privacy on what he has learned and to carry the new knowledge deeply into the unconscious and the soul. Shapes, sizes, colors, texture, sound, smell, feeling, taste, and the learning process are therefore functionallly integrated - the physical and spiritual, matter and energy, conscious and unconscious, individual and social.
    This kind of learning goes beyond the basics of distinguishing the difference between rough and smooth, square and round, hard and soft, black and white, similarities and extremes.
    For example, Wind-Wolf was with his mother in South Dakota while she danced for seven days straight in the hot sun, fasting, and piercing herself in the sacred Sun Dance Ceremony of a distant tribe. He has been doctored in a number of different healing ceremonies by medicine men and women from diverse places ranging from Alaska and Arizona to New York and California. He has been in more than 20 different sacred sweat-lodge rituals - used by native tribes to purify mind, body, and soul-since he was 3 years old, and he has already been exposed to many different religions of his racial brothers: Protestant, Catholic, Asian Buddhist, and Tibetan Lamaist.
    It takes a long time to absorb and reflect on these kinds of experiences, so maybe that is why you think my Indian child is a slow learner. His aunts and grandmothers taught him to count and know his numbers while they sorted out the complex materials used to make the abstract designs in the native baskets. He listened to his mother count each and every bead and sort out numerically according to color while she painstakingly made complex beaded pelts and necklaces. He learned his basic numbers by helping his father count and sort the rocks for a medicine sweat, say, or 13 for the summer solstice ceremony. (The rocks are later heated and doused with water to create purifying steam.) And he was taught to learn mathematics by counting the sticks we use in our traditional native hand game. So I realize he may be slow in grasping the methods and tools that you are now using in your classroom, ones quite familiar to his white peers, but I hope you will be patient with him. It takes time to adjust to a new cultural system and learn new things.
    He is not culturally "disadvantaged," but he is culturally "different." If you ask him how many months there are in a year, he will probably tell you 13. He will respond this way not because he doesn't know how to count properly, but because he has been taught by our traditional people that there are 13 full moons in a year according to the native tribal calendar and that there are really 13 planets in our solar system and 13 tail feathers on a perfectly balanced eagle, the most powerful kind of bird used in ceremony and healing.
    But he also knows that some eagles may only have 12 tail feathers, or seven, that they do not all have the same number. He knows that the flicker has exactly 10 tail feathers; that they are red and black, representing the directions of east and west, life and death; and that this bird is considered a "fire" bird, a power used in native doctoring and healing. He can probably count more than 40 different kinds of birds, tell you and his peers what kind of bird each is and where it lives, the seasons in which it appears, and how it is used in a sacred ceremony. He may have trouble writing his name on a piece of paper, but he knows how to say it and many other things in several different Indian languages. He is not fluent yet because he is only 5 years old and required by law to attend your educational system, learn your language, your values, your ways of thinking, and your methods of teaching and learning.
    So you see, all of these influences together make him somewhat shy and quiet- and perhaps "slow" according to your standards. But if Wind-Wolf was not prepared for his first tentative foray into your world, neither were you appreciative of his culture. On the first day of class, you had difficulty with his name. You wanted to call him Wind, insisting that Wolf somehow must be his middle name. The students in the class laughed at him, causing further embarrassment.
    While you are trying to teach him your new methods, helping him learn new tools for self-discovery and adapt to his new learning environment, he may be looking out the window as if daydreaming. Why? Because he has been taught to watch and study the changes in nature. It is hard for him to make the appropriate psychic switch from the right to the left hemisphere of the brain when he sees the leaves turning bright colors, the geese heading south, and the squirrels scurrying around for nuts to get ready for a harsh winter. In his heart,in his young mind, and almost by instinct, he knows that this is the time of year he is supposed to be with his people gathering and preparing fish, deer meat, and native plants and herbs, and learning his assigned tasks in this role. He is caught between two worlds, torn by two distinct cultural systems.
    Yesterday, for the third time in two weeks, he came home crying and said he wanted to have his hair cut. He said he doesn't have any friends at school because they make fun of his long hair. I tried to explain to him that in our culture, long hair is a sign of masculinity and balance and is a source of power. But he remained adamant in his position.
    To make matters worse, he recently encountered his first harsh case of racism. Wind-Wolf had managed to adopt at least one good school friend. On the way home from school one day, he asked his new pal if he wanted to come home to play with him until supper. That was OK with Wind-Wolf's mother, who was walking with them. When they all got to the little friend's house, the two boys ran inside to ask permission while Wind-Wolf's mother waited. But the other boy's mother lashed out: "It is OK if you have to play with him at school, but we don't allow those kind of people in our house!" When my wife asked why not, the other boy's mother answered, "Because you are Indians, and we are white, and I don't want my kids growing up with your kind of people."
    So now my young Indian child does not want to go to school anymore (even though we cut his hair). He feels that he does not belong. He is the only Indian child in your class, and he is well aware of this fact. Instead of being proud of his race, heritage, and culture, he feels ashamed. When he watches television, he asks why the white people hate us so much and always kill our people in the movies and why they take everything away from us. He asks why the other kids in school are not taught about the power, beauty, and essence of nature or provided with an opportunity to experience the world around them firsthand. He says he hates living in the city and that he misses his Indian cousins and friends. He asks why one young white girl at school who is his friend always tells him "I like you, Wind-Wolf, because you are a good Indian."
    Now he refuses to sing his native songs, play with his Indian artifacts, learn his language, or participate in his sacred ceremonies. When I ask him to go to a powwow or help me with a sacred sweat-lodge ritual, he says no because "that's weird," and he doesn't want his friends at school to think he doesn't believe in God.
    So, dear teacher, I want to introduce you to my son, Wind-Wolf, who is not really a "typical" little Indian kid after all. He stems from a long line of hereditary chiefs, medicine men and women, and ceremonial leaders whose accomplishments and unique forms of knowledge are still being studied and recorded in contemporary books. He has seven different tribal systems flowing through his blood; he is even part white. I want my child to succeed in school and in life. I don't want him to be a dropout or juvenile delinquent or to end up on drugs and alcohol because he is made to feel inferior or because of discrimination. I want him to be proud of his rich heritage and culture, and I would like him to develop the necessary capabilities to adapt to, and succeed in, both cultures. But I need your help.
    What you say and what you do in the classroom, what you teach and how you teach it, and what you don't say and don't teach will have a significant effect on the potential success or failure of my child. Please remember that this is the primary year of his education and development. All I ask is that you work with me, not against me, to help educate my child in the best way. If you don't have the knowledge, preparation, experience, or training to effectively deal with culturally different children, I am willing to help you with the few resources I have, or direct you to such resources.
    Millions of dollars have been appopriated by Congress and are being spent each year for "Indian Education." All you have to do is take advantage of it and encourage your school to make an effort to use it in the name of "equal education." My Indian child has a constitutional right to learn, retain and maintain his heritage and culture. By the same token, I strongly believe that non-Indian children also have a constitutional right to learn about our Native American heritage and culture because Indians play a significant part in the history of Western society. Until this reality is equally understood and applied in education as a whole, there will be a lot more schoolchildren in grades K-2 identified as "slow learners."
    My son is not an empty glass coming into your class to be filled. He is a full basket coming into a different environment and society with something special to share. Please let him share his knowledge, heritage, and culture with you and his peers.

    Robert Lake (Medicine GrizzlyBear) A member of the Seneca and Cherokee Indian Tribes.
    From Teacher Magazine, September 1990
    He was an associate professor at Gonzaga University's School of Education in Spokane, Washington; when this was written.


    A special thank you goes out to my teacher and mentor Dr. Henrietta Mann (Full Blooded Southern Cheyenne) for a copy of this essay. Peace to you always.

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    Having said all that, there a couple of things I have started to wonder about. Its related to the fact they call it Lucis. Now, why TF do they ALWAYS refer everything to LUCIFER. My other observation relating to religion is this: I think it is important for us to be able to distinguish between ideas, concepts, things, people, objects, events, whatever and etc that move our energy up and help us become creative, productive, healthy happy people; and those that draw our energies down and make us ill -- things you might call inherently, evil. I think we need to be able to make those distinctions clearly.

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    Shiva, you always astound me with the massive amount of data that you present.

    Thank you for sharing what you have with the forum. It doesn't fall on deaf ears:-)
    Well said, Hiram. Thanks, Shiva

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    Having said all that, there a couple of things I have started to wonder about. Its related to the fact they call it Lucis. Now, why TF do they ALWAYS refer everything to LUCIFER. My other observation relating to religion is this: I think it is important for us to be able to distinguish between ideas, concepts, things, people, objects, events, whatever and etc that move our energy up and help us become creative, productive, healthy happy people; and those that draw our energies down and make us ill -- things you might call inherently, evil. I think we need to be able to make those distinctions clearly.
    If illuminati means enlightened ones and lucifer is the light bearer, what is hard to grasp about that?

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    Well Im glad somebody said it. This remindes me of those Club of Rome documents where they said somthing about how they were going to make a new religion for the world, 'a green religion'. I was taught as a child that the people wanted to be led and taken care of, and would believe what ever they were told to believe. All that was needed is to give them a few false choices that have the same result. The only way to prevent this is to NOT form group beliefs systems, as they will be infiltrated and begin to be filled with dis-info etc. So now what do we do? the mass's want to be fed like cattle, so will they be our cattle? NO. Will they let us be rouge cattle? NO. Rockerfellers and their ilk funded and speak of how great Pol Pot was. He killed anyone who was intelligent. In the Americas the slaves were killed if they learned to read for example. WE are the problem, so they have two options. WE will be the ones going to the re-education camps. Unless they can provide another belief system for us to engage in that of course suites them and has purpose. It all boils down to Agenda 21 for us where they only keep around the ones that they can use, and an out in the open tyrannical One World Govt for them. That is exactly where this is going unless we have a masive shift and some changes in the rules that govern this deminsion. On the other hand what do I know...its just how I see it anyway

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    cloud9 wrote "Hi Shiva,
    I've always seen your posts against new age but I don't read them because I've never had any interest in it.
    This time I'd like to ask you please explain to me what exactly is new age? Is it the same as metaphysics? What's the difference or similarity?

    If it's not too much to ask, can you please give me a nice explanation that is not copy and paste? I'd rather read a simple explanation that pages and pages of bla bla because as with any subject it can be quite extensive.

    Thank you in advance. "

    the "new age movement" has become the NWO religion that has been set up by FALLEN entities to make people feel happier in their prisons but not to free them from their prisons..or even recognise that there are many entities building the prisons bigger and stronger around them.

    The roots of the new-age religion come from Blavatsky and her channeling and interactions with the "great white brotherhood"...that's when all these SO-CALLED "ascended masters" such as St germain,el morya,kuthumi etc were introduced and mixed with Fallen beings from other religions such as AA Michael and YHWH and Fallen ET collectives (galactic federation of Light,ashtar command etc) ...spreading lots of basic truths mixed with distortions and omissions..and that continues to this day.Those "ascended masters" are NOT truly ascended masters they just managed to "graduate" from one level of the deception in to another and acquired some powers and abilities on the way that makes most people think they are "ascended" or awakened...abilities mean very little,awareness means everything.


    The new age movement is designed to take the place of religions as people became disillusioned with them and others are no longer interested...it's the same program of pacification through "divine" messages and promises,saviour scenarios,group "lightwork" which is easily steered to serve dark purposes etc,etc

    IT IS THE INTENDED NEW WORLD RELIGION based on a "unity and oneness" that serves the ONE WORLD ORDER...designed to keep people ignorant and happy in their prisons.A movement of Pacification and complacency and hoping for some date or "saviour" to free them(2012 and mass landings of ET's and beings such as Maitreya etc,distorted geometry teachingand schumann resonance/DNA actvation fallen theories etc

    People can't see the deceptions because of the basic truths in most new-agey material...same goes for religions.

    so if you are really curious about the new-age movement and it's TRICKY deceptions and entrapments,this is worth a read...many new-agers will find this too long and boring to read and will jump straight back in to their escapist channelings and teachings but it's worth the read.....you will be better equipped to DISCERN the tricks and distortions in most new-agey teachings

    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/hu...huntley_13.htm

    http://educate-yourself.org/mnt/real...t08nov02.shtml

    http://wemustknow.net/2010/06/new-age-movement/
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    DNA Awakening - Arcturian Key Codes for Evolution
    This works better if yo sing along to the words



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    yeah ..that vid is a perfect example of what I said above "...many new-agers will find this too long and boring to read and will jump straight back in to their escapist channelings and teachings"...many crop circles are made by negative ET's and they are there to mess up your DNA and the earths grids...others aren't.The music alone in that vid will mess up your energies.

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    Meditation: Higher Self

    Try some lovely relaxation exercises


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    This helps bring peace into your heart

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    Thank you very much, Shiva I really appreciate your explanation.

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    Quote If illuminati means enlightened ones and lucifer is the light bearer, what is hard to grasp about that?
    Lucifer is not a pagan; he's a Christian concept ....yes?

    Ah... I C....the Roman morning star!...but also can refer to Jesus and the Christians got it mixed up...or so it says on my google search.

    I was actually questioning what is their orientation in these references. According to the Theosophists, and this is just my understanding: there are 2K year cycles...and we are leaving the passive Christian age and going into another heroic age. WB Yeats wrote about it in "The Gyres" and "The Second Coming".
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    Quote If illuminati means enlightened ones and lucifer is the light bearer, what is hard to grasp about that?
    Lucifer is not a pagan; he's a Christian concept ....yes?
    Not sure if he is a christian or jewish invention.

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    Quote Not sure if he is a christian or jewish invention.
    I googled it. He's the Roman morning star erroneously interpreted by the Christians to be Satan. Jesus is referred to as the light bearer in Revelations.

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    However I am still wondering about the "Gyres" of the Theosophists and the 2K year cycles which, they say are taking us into a new heroic age. It could be something completely unrelated to Illuminati.

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    Turning and turning in the widening gyre
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.
    Surely some revelation is at hand;
    Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
    The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
    When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
    Troubles my sight: somewhere in the sands of the desert
    A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
    A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
    Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
    Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
    The darkness drops again; but now I know
    That twenty centuries of stony sleep
    were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
    And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
    Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

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    This was the previous heroic Age brought in by the Rape of Leda by a BIG BIRD....hehe...I think it was Zeus.

    A sudden blow: the great wings beating still
    Above the staggering girl, her thighs caressed
    By the dark webs, her nape caught in his bill,
    He holds her helpless breast upon his breast.

    How can those terrified vague fingers push
    The feathered glory from her loosening thighs?
    And how can body, laid in that white rush,
    But feel the strange heart beating where it lies?

    A shudder in the loins engenders there
    The broken wall, the burning roof and tower[20]
    And Agamemnon dead.

    Being so caught up,

    So mastered by the brute blood of the air,
    Did she put on his knowledge with his power
    Before the indifferent beak could let her drop?


    Indifferent? Jerk!
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