Mother of all Gushers - (Discussion Only Thread)

[Gita]

CNN - Did Obama Want The Oil Spill? Ex-Fema Director Thinks So

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwo67fMQhpY

[Etherios]

Posted by Gita (here)
CNN - Did Obama Want The Oil Spill? Ex-Fema Director Thinks So

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwo67fMQhpY

Gita if they are planning to push oil away and introduce as that ex-Fema guy said "Something else" ... i know they are monsters and wont care less about the damage but global environmental destruction just to move away from oil ... at their time ... at their way .. at their terms...

Damn it might even be a possibility. Economy dies , environment dies, free energy is invented by them ... we are saved ... bow to our master ... damn ...

[stardustaquarion]

This is a wild card but I kind of think that they have created all this mess to be able to detonate a nuke and create an interdimensional portal look at this

""The [Babalon] Working began... just prior to the wave of unexplained ariel phenomena now recalled as the 'Great Flying Saucer Flap!' Parsons opened a door and something flew in." Such researchers as John Carter suggest that the detonation of atomic bombs over Japan — during the latter part of World War II — may have also played a part in opening this door between dimensions or, at least, attracted the curiosity of our intergalactic neighbors. "

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/UFO...tual_Magic.htm

If that is the case, this is a plan and not stupidity and all what they want is people beggin for the nuke.....

Maybe we should focus on asking the Earth to close the hole by herself, the planet is perfectly capable of doing that! Rather than asking for a human solution to the problem lets ask earth to close it

[Gita]

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Senator Wants Corporate Welfare for BP

'US Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee member Lisa Murkowski has urged Congress not to overreact legislatively to the Gulf of Mexico oil spill. On May 13, Murkowski and other Republicans blocked Senate Democratic attempts to pass the "Big Oil Bailout Prevention Liability Act" which would cap BP's liability at $10 billion, even if damages from the Gulf of Mexico oil spill surpass that figure. The company already estimates that the spill will cost $450 million to clean up.

It has been reported that Murkowski, a drilling supporter, has received at least $300,000 in campaign contributions from the oil and gas industry.'

Read more: Senator Wants Corporate Welfare for BP

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[lindabaker]

"Maybe we should focus on asking the Earth to close the hole by herself, the planet is perfectly capable of doing that! Rather than asking for a human solution to the problem lets ask earth to close it" was written by Stardust.

How about a perfectly sized asteroid to plop right into the hole? Is is possible and safe? Planetary miracle called for here. No nukes, no no no

[stardustaquarion]

Folks in the USA, this is the solution, call your representatives and demand action!

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du8N9FqscD8

[stardustaquarion]

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPqAM2CpXpk

[Gita]

Unbelievable!! I have not posted any pics of animals and sea life cos they are pretty heartbreaking but please consider their plight and send them heart as much as possible.

[tron]

i read last night that sea turtles were taking the worst of it.
then i recalled this...

[Etherios]

Anyone know what the reply of the US gov was about the kevin idea? did they even thought about it or just ignored him?

[Lucid Jia]

Here is a link to the ROV Camera. Looks bad down there! http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_inte...ov_stream.html

[onawah]

http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/st...yramidtimeline
This should probably get its own thread, but I'm posting it here because it's very relevant to where the discussion on this thread has gone. David Wilcock's newest entry, posted today on Divine Cosmos is entitled: "Was Oil Spill and Possible Disclosure in the Pyramid Timeline? "

Here is a quote "
As the oil disaster has mushroomed in scope, I found something I had forgotten about: namely the year 2010 is directly flagged in the Pyramid Timeline as the year where "the bottom will fall out of the world."

If you look at a diagram of the internal passages of the Pyramid, and look at the Subterranean Chamber, there is an area that dips lower than the others that is called the 'Pit.'

The lowest depth of the Pit begins in the year 2010. This was openly predicted in Lemesurier's 1977 book as the year where the materialistic world would reach the full extent of its visible collapse -- to help usher in a mass awakening.

The events that are now happening show us that we are indeed living through those prophecies."

I agree with Wilcock that Obama is not a villain, and I also think that the ETS who would probably love to help us are refraining because it's finally time the proverbial s--t hits the fan and there is enough public outcry from the public (and even the media is beginning to step in--have you noticed?) so that there will finally be some serious transitioning from oil to more sustainable technology.
I've barely started reading the article myself, but I'm going to stick my neck out here and say i have a good feeling about where it's going. Though like many psychics, Wilcock isn't all-seeing, I think he is basically on the right track...and like him, I'm optimistic.
Enjoy!

[onawah]

In a similar vein, I'm adding here part of the current Message From Matthew dated May 19, 2010
at:
http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=120&z=2

"Gulf of Mexico oil spill; grassroots efforts for "green world"; truth disclosures speeding up; Earth's energy field of potential; Illuminati, clones; astrological influences; history, new direction of religions



1. This is Matthew, with loving greetings from all souls at this station. Let us speak about something that affects the United States but is of great concern to peoples throughout your world, the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. We know of the various speculations as to what caused this grave environmental situation: the work of corporate saboteurs; another Illuminati “black ops” tactic to further delay official recognition of space beings’ presence; some dark civilization is the culprit; and some are wondering if God had a hand in it, like a strong wake-up call, while others have defined it as a wrathful God punishing sinners.

2. Simply, the ultimate cause was a mechanical malfunction, but most assuredly this was no “accident.” During the past decades of increasing numbers of seismic events, extracting oil from a mile beneath the waters was deliberately courting disaster—it was not a matter of “if,” but when strong planetary movement would disrupt mechanical operations at that depth.

3. The root of this environmental destructiveness is the intention of a few minds steeped in greed to keep your world dependent upon petroleum, and to that end, they have suppressed the developments in free energy that would have eliminated their source of mammoth fortunes. The relentless pursuit of monetary wealth has withered their conscience, thus there is no consideration given to the potential effects of desecrating the environment; and they don’t understand that Earth is a highly evolved soul, a sentient being whose blood is the fluids within her planetary body.

4. We cannot say exactly when attempts to end the spewing of the oil will be successful, but this manmade disaster requires a manmade solution. We know of your visualizing marine life safe in pristine waters and your prayers that the oil will not reach coastlines. By all means continue—never underestimate your power to change any situation!

5. Some of you are pleading for our space family to come down and save the day, while others are disappointed, even distressed, that they aren’t already there. They have not landed en masse only because it is not yet safe for you if they do so, but they are indeed helping! They are keeping the currents gentle and the oil away from the shore to the extent possible without creating unwanted side effects, and they have a watchful eye on the ones who might be persuaded to produce storms or seismic disturbances in the Gulf. They are doing what they can to lessen the toxic effects of the surface oil and the pools floating beneath; however, only after their technologies are in use on the planet can total eradication of the oil polluting the Gulf waters be achieved.

6. If every cloud has a silver lining, as your expression goes, then you could say that this cloud is surrounded by a brilliance that is billowing ever outward through your skies. The oil spill has given rise to demands for changes to insure that never again will such a disaster imperil your natural world. “Big Oil” will not be able to stem the growing tide of people curtailing gasoline consumption and looking for substitutes for petroleum-based products.

7. This is adding impetus to efforts to create a “green world” through renewable energy sources; clean manufacturing; ending pollution from all sources; expanding recycling and stopping wastefulness; preserving rain forests, which are essential not only for animal habitats, but your very breath. You see these recent or extended developments as promising, and rightly so. We wish you also could see how lighted beings throughout the universe are cheering on the “grassroots movement” as it surges in many directions.

8. Along with growing emphasis in those crucial areas is the ever louder outcry to end corporate control of governments; negotiate resolutions instead of wage war; eliminate massive impoverishment; end the reign of chemicals; and dig deeper into the pockets of corruption and deception, where only the tips of those icebergs are apparent.

9. Originally the Golden Age master plan created by the highest council called for a gradual emergence of the many truths during the process of world transformation and spiritual renewal. However, the tenacity of the dark ones has created a time crunch of sorts, as many profound revelations still must come forth so that once again the peoples will know they are powerful gods and goddesses, inseparable parts of the universal family of souls.

10. Even with considerable time to assimilate that ultimate truth, it would be difficult for many, and perhaps impossible for some, to believe it. Yet, that reality and many others of shocking nature have to be disclosed within a brief period so that myriad changes of a magnitude you can hardly imagine can be accomplished, and all of those changes are gathering momentum. The 2012 timetable for Earth to exit third density’s darkness is much less than the two and a half years your calendars indicate. Time as you perceive it will continue to pass faster and faster the closer you approach the continuum wherein linear time’s past, present and future are happening simultaneously in different energy planes.

11. Our beloved Earth is right on target on her ascension pathway, that we can assure you, but we don’t know who will choose to see the light of universal truths and who will not. The light brings spiritual clarity and changes cellular structure from carbon-based to the crystalline form that enables bodies to survive in the vibratory levels of the Golden Age. Those who choose the light will physically accompany Earth and those who do not will go to other worlds where they will have as many opportunities as they need “to see the light.”

[Gita]

Oil Spill Disaster 2010 (part251) - Slick from US oil spill reaches coastland

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFA154dW3yQ

[Gita]

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Cleaning oil-soaked wetlands may be impossible

The gooey oil washing into the maze of marshes along the Gulf Coast could prove impossible to remove, leaving a toxic stew lethal to fish and wildlife, government officials and independent scientists said.

By MATTHEW BROWN
Associated Press Writer
NEW ORLEANS —

The gooey oil washing into the maze of marshes along the Gulf Coast could prove impossible to remove, leaving a toxic stew lethal to fish and wildlife, government officials and independent scientists said.

Officials are considering some drastic and risky solutions: They could set the wetlands on fire or flood areas in hopes of floating out the oil.

They warn an aggressive cleanup could ruin the marshes and do more harm than good. The only viable option for many impacted areas is to do nothing and let nature break down the spill.

More than 50 miles of Louisiana's delicate shoreline already have been soiled by the massive slick unleashed after the Deepwater Horizon rig burned and sank last month. Officials fear oil eventually could invade wetlands and beaches from Texas to Florida. Louisiana is expected to be hit hardest.

On Saturday, a major pelican rookery was awash in oil off Louisiana's coast. Hundreds of birds nest on the island, and an Associated Press photographer saw some birds and their eggs stained with the ooze. Nests were perched in mangroves directly above patches of crude.

Plaquemines Parish workers put booms around the island, but puddles of oil were inside the barrier.

"Oil in the marshes is the worst-case scenario," said Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, the head of the federal effort to contain and clean up the spill.

Also Saturday, BP told federal regulators it plans to continue using a contentious chemical dispersant, despite orders from the Environmental Protection Agency to look for less toxic alternatives. BP said in a letter to the EPA that Corexit 9500 "remains the best option for subsea application."

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[Gita]

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UPDATE: Congressional Bill Proposes Quadrupling Per-Barrel Oil Tax


(Updates with additional detail on when the tax increase could take effect)
By Siobhan Hughes
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
WASHINGTON -(Dow Jones)- U.S. congressional negotiators on Thursday proposed quadrupling an oil tax that finances a federal oil-spill trust fund, the latest fallout for the industry following a vast oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

The tax would increase to 32 cents a barrel, from 8 cents currently, under a plan worked out between House and Senate tax-writing committees. The Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund is a source of funding for oil-spill cleanups.

The $1.6 billion that the fund holds is estimated to be less than what will be needed to clean up a BP Plc (BP, BP.LN) spill that followed an April 20 oil-rig explosion. Though BP has indicated that it will pay all "legitimate costs" related to the spill, the disaster is focusing attention on the issue.

The tax increase, which was included as part of a broader package to extend tax breaks including jobless benefits, would be effective through the end of 2020.

The increase would take place in the first quarter that begins 60 days after the bill is enacted, or as early as October of this year.


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[Gita]

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UPDATE: US Salazar:'Deadline After Deadline Has Been Missed' By BP

(Updates with more details, quotes)
By Susan Daker
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

HOUSTON -(Dow Jones)- Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said Sunday that he is frustrated that BP PLC (BP) has missed "deadline after deadline," while trying to stop a massive oil spill in the U.S. Gulf Of Mexico, and that he does not " completely" trust the oil giant's ability to bring the incident to a close.

"I am angry," Salazar said at a news conference outside of BP's Houston offices. "I have no question that BP is throwing everything at the problem to try and resolve it because this is an existential crisis for one of the world's largest companies," Salazar said. "Do I have confidence that they know exactly what they are doing? No, not completely," Salazar said.

The official added that the U.S. government is ready to "push (BP) out of the way" if it finds they are not doing "what they are supposed to be doing."
"BP has from day one frankly not fulfilled the mission that they were supposed to fullfill," he said.

Salazar's comments underscore how criticism of the London-based oil company has reached a fever pitch since patches of thick, brownish crude began washing up last week on beaches and marshes in Louisiana. BP has been criticized for not being able to provide an accurate estimate of how much oil is leaking from the deepwater well that began spilling more than one month ago, following the explosion and sinking of a Transocean Ltd. (RIG) drilling rig working for the company 40 miles off the Louisiana coast. The blast killed 11 people.

The Obama administration has said the company is not doing enough to keep the government and public informed about the spill. Some lawmakers have accused BP of a "cover-up" over the size of the spill. The Obama administration has said the company is not doing enough to keep the government and public informed about the spill, and some lawmakers have accused BP of a "cover-up" over the size of the spill. In a statement posted on its website, BP said that it reiterates "its pledge to be open and transparent" in its reponse to the incident. "We are committed to providing the American people with the information they need to understand the environmental impact from the spill and the response steps that have been taken," said BP's chief executive Tony Hayward in the statement.
Salazar said that as of now the "top kill" option, which involves BP using heavy drilling fluids to stop the flow of oil, is still the "option of choice." BP is scheduled to try it early this week, Salazar said. If it doesn't work, the government is preparing for the worst possible scenario, Salazar said. Prior to the afternoon media briefing, Salazar had been meeting with BP staff and other federal officials since 6 a.m. local time, he said. In an email to employees Friday, BP Chief Executive Tony Hayward acknowledged frustration with the failure of the company's efforts to stop the leak and warned staff that the success of the "top kill" procedure could not be taken for granted, as it would be tried in unprecedented depths.

Salazar said he is confident that the Environmental Protection Agency and BP will work out a dispute over the type of dispersants used to break up the oil. The EPA on Thursday ordered BP to identify and use a less toxic and more effective dispersant than Corexit, which is manufactured by Nalco Holding Co. ( NLC). The EPA said the alternative needed to be identified within 24 hours and implemented within 72 hours or Sunday. BP has defended its use of Corexit. "It's an ongoing effort," Salazar said.

The amount of oil that BP is siphoning from a massive leak on the floor of the Gulf of Mexico has declined to 1,360 barrels a day from about 2,200 barrels a day, a company spokesman said Sunday.

The change is part of a normal fluctuation, the spokesman said.

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[Etherios]

Well we are sure that they want this to get more big and more disastrous... we just have to understand the WHY??? ....


i dont want to accept this is happening so we go to a free energy society... its just too much damage for the gain. The possibility they want to use this to enforce Martial Law in US is far more plausible. It will be the biggest natural disaster the US has ever seen for decades if ever.

[Gita]

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Toxic Oil Spill Rains Warned Could Destroy North America

A dire report prepared for President Medvedev by Russia’s Ministry of Natural Resources is warning today that the British Petroleum (BP) oil and gas leak in the Gulf of Mexico is about to become the worst environmental catastrophe in all of human history threatening the entire eastern half of the North American continent with “total destruction”.

Russian scientists are basing their apocalyptic destruction assessment due to BP’s use of millions of gallons of the chemical dispersal agent known as Corexit 9500 which is being pumped directly into the leak of this wellhead over a mile under the Gulf of Mexico waters and designed, this report says, to keep hidden from the American public the full, and tragic, extent of this leak that is now estimated to be over 2.9 million gallons a day.

The dispersal agent Corexit 9500 is a solvent originally developed by Exxon and now manufactured by the Nalco Holding Company of Naperville, Illinois that is four times more toxic than oil (oil is toxic at 11 ppm (parts per million), Corexit 9500 at only 2.61ppm). In a report written by Anita George-Ares and James R. Clark for Exxon Biomedical Sciences, Inc. titled “Acute Aquatic Toxicity of Three Corexit Products: An Overview” Corexit 9500 was found to be one of the most toxic dispersal agents ever developed. Even worse, according to this report, with higher water temperatures, like those now occurring in the Gulf of Mexico, its toxicity grows.

The United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) in discovering BP’s use of this dangerous dispersal agent ordered BP to stop using it, but BP refused stating that their only alternative to Corexit 9500 was an even more dangerous dispersal agent known as Sea Brat 4.

The main differences between Corexit 9500 and Sea Brat 4 lie in how long these dangerous chemicals take to degrade into their constituent organic compounds, which for Corexit 9500 is 28 days. Sea Brat 4, on the other hand, degrades into an organic chemical called Nonylphenol that is toxic to aquatic life and can persist in the environment for years.

A greater danger involving Corexit 9500, and as outlined by Russian scientists in this report, is that with its 2.61ppm toxicity level, and when combined with the heating Gulf of Mexico waters, its molecules will be able to “phase transition” from their present liquid to a gaseous state allowing them to be absorbed into clouds and allowing their release as “toxic rain” upon all of Eastern North America.
Even worse, should a Katrina like tropical hurricane form in the Gulf of Mexico while tens of millions of gallons of Corexit 9500 are sitting on, or near, its surface the resulting “toxic rain” falling upon the North American continent could “theoretically” destroy all microbial life to any depth it reaches resulting in an “unimaginable environmental catastrophe” destroying all life forms from the “bottom of the evolutionary chart to the top”.

Note: For molecules of a liquid to evaporate, they must be located near the surface, be moving in the proper direction, and have sufficient kinetic energy to overcome liquid-phase intermolecular forces. Only a small proportion of the molecules meet these criteria, so the rate of evaporation is limited. Since the kinetic energy of a molecule is proportional to its temperature, evaporation proceeds more quickly at higher temperatures.

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[Gita]

Posted by Etherios (here)
Well we are sure that they want this to get more big and more disastrous... we just have to understand the WHY??? ....


i dont want to accept this is happening so we go to a free energy society... its just too much damage for the gain. The possibility they want to use this to enforce Martial Law in US is far more plausible. It will be the biggest natural disaster the US has ever seen for decades if ever.

Consider this – first they add poison in form of dispersant (Corexit 9500) – then they burn the oil with this added poison which will be blown over to Europe causing all kind of respiratory problems and who knows they may release the second wave of swine flu which will lead to more vaccinations. Not to mention not only the air is poisoned but also the water and food which will contain salt, mercury, sulphur! Also the price of oil and food will go way up which will conveniently open the way for hyperinflation leading to people not being able to pay for food which could lead to riots which in turn would put in place the need for martial law. Fema camps are already reported to be filling up. Fishermen and other sea based business will be losing out big time, etc...

Then also consider some of the major illuminate companies involved such as Goldman Sacs, Halliburton, BP. Also consider that Corexit is a product of Nalco who is owned by Goldman Sachs!

Corexit 9500

PRIMARY ROUTES OF EXPOSURE :
Eye, Skin

Section 2:
Hazardous Substance(s) CAS NO % (w/w)
Distillates, petroleum, hydrotreated light 64742-47-8 10.0 - 30.0
Propylene Glycol 57-55-6 1.0 - 5.0
Organic sulfonic acid salt Proprietary 10.0 - 30.0

Section 3:
**EMERGENCY OVERVIEW**
WARNING
Combustible.
Keep away from heat. Keep away from sources of ignition - No smoking. Keep container tightly closed. Do not get in eyes, on skin, on clothing. Do not take internally. Avoid breathing vapor. Use with adequate ventilation. In case
of contact with eyes, rinse immediately with plenty of water and seek medical advice. After contact with skin, wash immediately with plenty of soap and water.
Wear suitable protective clothing.
Low Fire Hazard; liquids may burn upon heating to temperatures at or above the flash point. May evolve oxides of carbon (COx) under fire conditions. May evolve oxides of sulfur (SOx) under fire conditions.

PRIMARY ROUTES OF EXPOSURE :
Eye, Skin

HUMAN HEALTH HAZARDS - ACUTE

Section 6:
ENVIRONMENTAL PRECAUTIONS :
Do not contaminate surface water.

Section 9:
APPEARANCE Clear Hazy Amber

Section 13:
If this product becomes a waste, it could meet the criteria of a hazardous waste as defined by the Resource
Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA) 40 CFR 261.

Well, depopulation and tighter control pops into mind! Fits their agenda pretty well don’t you think?!