This is so serious and it is rapidly becoming hopeless....
Still praying though
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This is so serious and it is rapidly becoming hopeless....
Still praying though
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For your consideration:
From : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8664684.stm
Ixtoc 1 was Gulf too.
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On the radio today they were saying they need to collect hair because it's the best thing to soak up oil withPosted by Sunny d (here)
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/05/09...oil/index.html
its getting weirder and weirder
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Just what we need; Oil, shredded tires, golf balls, and pubes all floating around in the gulf of mexico. Wow, you can't make this stuff up.
On the radio today they were saying they need to collect hair because it's the best thing to soak up oil with
In Lak'ech Ala K'in
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I call that organized spreading of insanity
Just what we need; Oil, shredded tires, golf balls, and pubes all floating around in the gulf of mexico. Wow, you can't make this stuff up.
... whirl people as much as you can, till they would know where is up and down and will call black white. Then point mob at some direction useful to your plans. Add sugar and stir slowly.
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10,000 tonnes is 20 million pounds. A litre of 10-30w oil weighs approx 2 pounds. If it is spilling 210,000 gallons/795,000 litres a day that is 1.6 million pounds or 800 tonnes a day. That graph has to be played way down.
For your consideration:
From : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8664684.stm
Ixtoc 1 was Gulf too.
*edited for MATH* (not my strong side)
Last edited by SpoonMan; 11th May 2010 at 07:25.
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Oil Spill Nets $270m for Transocean
The firm that owns the leaking oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico has made a $270 million profit from insurance payouts, despite having caused a massive ecological disaster.
Transocean, the company contracted by BP to drill the well, brought the story to light in a conference call on Monday.
Transocean took out a $560 million insurance policy on its Deepwater Horizon rig, which was greater than the value of the rig itself.
The company has already received a cash payment of $401 million, with the rest due over the next few weeks.
The €œaccounting gain€ arises because the compensation it will be receiving more than covers the $200 million that it has to pay to survivors and their families and for higher insurance costs.
Lamar McKay, the chairman of BP's US arm, Steve Newman, Transocean's chief executive, and managers of several other companies involved in the drilling are scheduled to testify in hearings in the US Congress later this week.
Experts believe the total cost of the clean-up and compensation will exceed $30 billion.
In a stock exchange filing, Newman said that BP and two smaller partners, Anadarko Petroleum and Mitsui of Japan, were contractually obliged to take €œfull responsibility for and defend, release and indemnify us from any loss, expense, claim, fine, penalty or liability for pollution or contamination€.
He added, €œOur industry has a long history of contract sanctity and we expect BP to honor that.€
About 5,000 barrels (210,000 gallons) of oil are still flowing into the sea every day.
BP had earlier said the leaking well in the Gulf of Mexico could be contained this week.
However, on Saturday the giant oil company failed to set up the steel dome which was to contain the oil flowing from the fissure.
BP now plans to place a smaller dome over the blown-out well, which could be in place within 72 hours, BP chief executive Tony Hayward told reporters at a press conference in Houston on Monday.
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Well, at least someone is presenting wrong numbers and false claims.
10,000 tonnes is 20 million pounds. A litre of 10-30w oil weighs approx 2 pounds. If it is spilling 210,000 gallons/795,000 litres a day that is 1.6 million pounds or 800 tonnes a day. That graph has to be played way down.
*edited for MATH* (not my strong side)
My first reaction to that comparison picture was: This can't be right?
Based on the numbers I have seen so far that comparison has wrong numbers *OR* the newspapers are blowing the leak out of proportions.
Normally the tabloids would have a field day to no end with this sort of accident...but it is barely mentioned in norwegian news, and when it is mentioned it's about the drama of the crew and not the severity of the oilspill itself.
Sometimes I wish I had the resources and knowledge to find out for myself...
People always tell me I remind them so much of Sid (the wierd furry guy from Ice Age, you know), is that a good thing?
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Revelation 16-3
Psalm 78:44
Last edited by Swami; 11th May 2010 at 09:46.
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stardustaquarian this made me feel really sick in my stomach http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ll=1#post17774 (your vid clip)
its uncomprehendable the devistation on the wild life and our environment, is so sad
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What ever exactly happened there still remains a myth to me. I am from Germany and all we are hearing here is very basic and more or the less information-free. All they told thusfar is that there was an explosion. Nobody seems to care what exploded and why. Are there any survivors or did the whole crew died? If there are any survivors why don't we see them interviewed?
When did Obama reacted the first time on the "accident"? Here in germany they reported his official response a week after the "explosion". Can anyone elobarate on this?
Martin
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It shocked me too, I am sending healing to the water and the creatures which is all that I can do appart from praying. I have a knot in my throat but keep on telling myself chin up, I am no help if I get depressed so keep going, chin up, keep going
stardustaquarian this made me feel really sick in my stomach http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ll=1#post17774 (your vid clip)
its uncomprehendable the devistation on the wild life and our environment, is so sad
Love
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I am with you Swami.
There is something biblical about this disaster. Part of the plan.
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a man made oil slick is biblical? I have to disagree with respect, I feel that you need to give this planet a little more credit, life especially in the oceans is the greatest at adaptation, there are fish in the pacific islands that can live in water that is so hot in the geothermic funnels it should essentially boil them or kill them, life will always persevere however much we try to mess up the planet, I think the largest body of this planet, might get hurt, but it will not die, at least not in our lifetimes!
I believe the sun is life and the water is life, we need both to survive, and lets be honest our water is just as important as our fauna, if anything would yield an intervention, it would this.
Ben
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Thanks Gita ... this is really bloody awful... we all need to get as many prayer warriors together and raise the concioiusness!!! As John has said ....Do it!!!!!
get going guys>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
viking
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http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...are-the-change
'Man has been trained to believe that which he is told- whether it is truth or a lie, to the point now that man is simply victim of the lies. May light come forth that you may recover your pathway to truth'
"Only at the close of the present major cycle the whole world will join together in the sweetest hymn ever sung upon Earth: a divine anthem of international co-operation, global goodwill and united spiritual purpose"
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Coast to coast interviews Peter Ward, a biologist, with regard to the impact of the oil spill
the whole playlist http://www.youtube.com/user/SetYouFr...568F6D25AEDE9E
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he Risky Business of Mining Methane Hydrate
The potential rewards of releasing methane from gas hydrate fields must be balanced with the risks. And the risks are significant. Let's start first with challenges facing mining companies and their workers. Most methane hydrate deposits are located in seafloor sediments. That means drilling rigs must be able to reach down through more than 1,600 feet (500 meters) of water and then, because hydrates are generally located far underground, another several thousand feet before they can begin extraction. Hydrates also tend to form along the lower margins of continental slopes, where the seabed falls away from the relatively shallow shelf toward the abyss. The roughly sloping seafloor makes it difficult to run pipeline
Even if you can situate a rig safely, methane hydrate is unstable once it's removed from the high pressures and low temperatures of the deep sea. Methane begins to escape even as it's being transported to the surface. Unless there's a way to prevent this leakage of natural gas, extraction won't be efficient. It will be a bit like hauling up well water using a pail riddled with holes.
Believe it or not, this leakage may be the least of the worries. Many geologists suspect that gas hydrates play an important role in stabilizing the seafloor. Drilling in these oceanic deposits could destabilize the seabed, causing vast swaths of sediment to slide for miles down the continental slope. Evidence suggests that such underwater landslides have occurred in the past (see sidebar), with devastating consequences. The movement of so much sediment would certainly trigger massive tsunamis similar to those seen in the Indian Ocean tsunami of December 2004.
But perhaps the biggest concern is how methane hydrate mining could affect global warming. Scientists already know that hydrate deposits naturally release small amounts of methane. The gas works itself skyward -- either bubbling up through permafrost or ocean water -- until it's released into the atmosphere. Once methane is in the atmosphere, it becomes a greenhouse gas even more efficient than carbon dioxide at trapping solar radiation. Some experts fear that drilling in hydrate deposits could cause catastrophic releases of methane that would greatly accelerate global warming.
Does that make methane from hydrate fields off-limits? This is the question scientists from all over the world are trying to answer.
Moving Mountains
One of the largest landslides in history didn't occur on land, but underwater, just off the coast of Norway. It also didn't occur in recent history, but in the Holocene epoch, about 8,000 years ago. Known as the Storegga Submarine Landslide, the event caused massive amounts of sediments to slide about 497 miles (800 kilometers) down the continental slope. This in turn triggered a mega-tsunami, perhaps 82 feet (25 meters) high, that struck Norway and Scotland.
In 1998, Russian researchers discovered an unstable hydrate field near the site of the Storegga slide. Now scientists believe that a rapid decomposition of hydrates, related to temperature and pressure changes coming at the end of the last ice age, destabilized the sediments and caused the landslide.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/ear...ozen-fuel4.htm
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I think they changed the bible into a selffullfilling prophecy in Ceasars time. That why Jesus looks like Ceasar these days. So the bibles we read these days are about DISCLOSURE not about religion! Eat that one........
I am with you Swami.
There is something biblical about this disaster. Part of the plan.
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