See no evil, Hear no evil, Say no evil........

[Rainbow44]

Last week I was about to pull my hair out because I had come to a disagreement with my father about what's happening on the planet. If I tell friends and family about the serious problems in Japan that are not being reported by the general mainstream media they think I'm nuts. My father believes that mainstream news keeps him informed and if it's not reported, it's not important. If I say anything about chem trails, vaccinations or fluoride in the water they say I am paranoid or out to lunch.

I don't know about the rest of you but I am really tired of telling people who don't want to listen what's happening under their noses. I don't feel it's my job to go forth and report bad news but on the other hand I feel I have an obligation to impart important news that is being hidden from the general public especially to friends and family. But very few want to listen and I even have a cousin that if I'm not careful would probably phone in and give my name to the Walmart spy on your neighbor scam.

It's like almost everyone around me might as well be the walking dead because they believe in an illusion of what America once was. It's like they panic and react to different information instead of listening with an open mind. Pretty much they are like reactions waiting to happen and the open mind idea really is not an option.

Do any of you feel alone? Seriously there is literally no one to talk to. If I do talk to people they conveniently change the subject or excuse themselves. The common gossip or conversation does the same thing to me and I tend to avoid it if at all possible.

I like to talk about fun stuff so it's not like I'm doom and gloom all the time but I like to talk to informed people and it's a wake up call to find very few within my circle awake and aware.

So are you all feeling the same way as me? I'm not giving up perhaps just venting.

Thanks and Bless all of you,

Rainbow

[Roseheart]

Ah Rainbow honey YES yes yes yes yes....
I have learned to be careful, patient, breathe, accept, nod, walk away and see the funny side much more than I ever used too. It's all a teaching if you want it to be...
I have had a very good friend tell me I'm crazy. She was SO SURE it was scary and it broke my heart, but it taught me to never assume that someone else, no matter how well you think you know them, is ready to hear this stuff... Some people will attack you if you do - it's that simple.
If it is appropriate (and safe for me) I may direct someone to something on youtube or a book and I figure they can do their own learning if there's a wish to.
I now don't see many of the old friends because they are just shallow and I don't resonate with them anymore. This I now accept and I wish them well.
Unfortunately we're not the majority. Yet...
Take care of yourself, I get where you're at.
You're not alone. x

[Corncrake]

Dear Rainbow44 - You are not alone! I have heard others on the forum express similar thoughts. I have very few people around me with whom to discuss these topics - some friends just think I am just exaggerating the situation, or crazy and most don't really want to listen. My sister is always open to new ideas until she goes away and discusses them with her friends who then tell her it is all too far fetched. Luckily I have a friend in the States who I skype/email regularly who has been in the picture for decades. Sadly now even he feels unable to express himself publicly for fear of losing his green card. Thankfully we still have Avalon.

[johnf]

The main function of places like Avalon, as I see it, is to have a safe place to bat this stuff around and to be and feel safe as we do it.
Reality bubbles are real things and the boundaries of them, whether they are our own or another's can only be found by exploration.
Some people are looking to expand theirs, others are looking to give theirs to others, sometimes forcibly. I still have to work at keeping my mouth shut and blessing them in my heart when I see them stop at the edge of their bubbles, it is hard but as I do this I acknowledge the fact that they have their own connection to the greater reality within them. If I argue I withdraw from that acknowlegdement as well as the source of the greater reality within myself. Godspeed in your learning!

[D-Day]

I know exactly how you feel Rainbow, it is unbelievably frustrating for me also!

I wish i had some words of wisdom or advice to help you counter this problem... but sadly I fear that the vast majority of people out there are so brainwshed by MSM and society in general that it is almost impossible to wake them up at this time.

All you can do is put the information out there and hope that maybe... just maybe... some of it will sink in.

Don't let this get you down Rainbow, just be thankful that your own eyes are open and don't get discouraged.

A time will come, probably in the not too distant future, when when the people you are talking about will become very scared about what's happening in the world around them. When this time comes it will be the job of people like you and me and the rest of us here at Avalon to to help those people to understand what's REALLY been going on.

Until then just keep doing what you're doing and try not to let the closed-minded ones get you down!

Cheers
Dan

[RedeZra]

it's so much easier to make right decisions when you stay informed

so keep it up stay alert and care rather than convince

[quench]

I feel the same Rainbow. I try but they either laugh you away or aggressively argue back. There seems to be no open-mindedness. Luckily enough my best mate happens to be "awake" too so at least I have someone I can talk to about this stuff. Once, after arguing with my dad about it, I asked him why is it OK for people to believe that God exists but not that ETs are real. He didn't have an answer. I have a feeling that there soon will be plenty of evidence though.

[PHARAOH]

Rainbow44, to think that here you are preaching to the choir. Stand firm but stay grounded. Tell your family and friends how much the Furor would be proud of America today. Tell them how millions of lives were lost and sacrificed only to see Hilter's Germany rise to power here in America. Tell them about project paperclip. Ask them how they feel when the cops stop them from traveling freely, without commiting any crimes and ask for thier papers (Drivers license, Insurance and Registration) before they can move freely about. But more importantly, work on yourself and continue your journey within. We tend to lose ourselves and our way while attempting to revive the sleeping dead. Don't fall in that trap.

[king anthony]

Posted by Rainbow44 (here)
Do any of you feel alone? Seriously there is literally no one to talk to. If I do talk to people they conveniently change the subject or excuse themselves. The common gossip or conversation does the same thing to me and I tend to avoid it if at all possible.

I say, the "most" dream that they are - as for the remaining, "reality" is but a lonely journey to travel. Do I feel alone... I cannot recall when I didn't.

[manny]

YOU ,we are not alone.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Rainbow44 (here)
Last week I was about to pull my hair out because I had come to a disagreement with my father about what's happening on the planet. If I tell friends and family about the serious problems in Japan that are not being reported by the general mainstream media they think I'm nuts. My father believes that mainstream news keeps him informed and if it's not reported, it's not important. If I say anything about chem trails, vaccinations or fluoride in the water they say I am paranoid or out to lunch.

I don't know about the rest of you but I am really tired of telling people who don't want to listen what's happening under their noses. I don't feel it's my job to go forth and report bad news but on the other hand I feel I have an obligation to impart important news that is being hidden from the general public especially to friends and family. But very few want to listen and I even have a cousin that if I'm not careful would probably phone in and give my name to the Walmart spy on your neighbor scam.

It's like almost everyone around me might as well be the walking dead because they believe in an illusion of what America once was. It's like they panic and react to different information instead of listening with an open mind. Pretty much they are like reactions waiting to happen and the open mind idea really is not an option.

Do any of you feel alone? Seriously there is literally no one to talk to. If I do talk to people they conveniently change the subject or excuse themselves. The common gossip or conversation does the same thing to me and I tend to avoid it if at all possible.

I like to talk about fun stuff so it's not like I'm doom and gloom all the time but I like to talk to informed people and it's a wake up call to find very few within my circle awake and aware.

So are you all feeling the same way as me? I'm not giving up perhaps just venting.

Thanks and Bless all of you,

Rainbow

I only have this problem with people who don't know me these days.
Those who do take my word for many things as I have been proved right in their eyes.
With people I don't know, they are usually not willing to debate me for long if I disagree with them as I can quote all sorts of stuff from memory.
What I have used before to get hold of peoples attention long enough is leading questions like ''If I knew that X was going to happen to you, you would want me to tell you, wouldn't you?'' and if they say no, then you know you won't succeed due to the nuggetry ratio in their brain being too high.

Posted by PHARAOH (here)
Rainbow44, to think that here you are preaching to the choir. Stand firm but stay grounded. Tell your family and friends how much the Furor would be proud of America today. Tell them how millions of lives were lost and sacrificed only to see Hilter's Germany rise to power here in America. Tell them about project paperclip. Ask them how they feel when the cops stop them from traveling freely, without commiting any crimes and ask for thier papers (Drivers license, Insurance and Registration) before they can move freely about. But more importantly, work on yourself and continue your journey within. We tend to lose ourselves and our way while attempting to revive the sleeping dead. Don't fall in that trap.

No offense to you, that would fall completely on deaf ears if you pulled that out on me.
I would suggest you try to avoid polarising info before you have their attention.
And also avoid it if it is not relevant.

[jcocks]

Posted by king anthony (here)

Posted by Rainbow44 (here)
Do any of you feel alone? Seriously there is literally no one to talk to. If I do talk to people they conveniently change the subject or excuse themselves. The common gossip or conversation does the same thing to me and I tend to avoid it if at all possible.

I say, the "most" dream that they are - as for the remaining, "reality" is but a lonely journey to travel. Do I feel alone... I cannot recall when I didn't.

I was born with Autism. As a result, I have some unusual behavious, that, as a child, lead to me being teased relentlessly and ostracised (sp?) for practically all of my life (tho to a lesser extent now, and I'm a lot more able to find people who are accepting of my differences, but I still have difficulty finding a connection with many people). I've actually found solace in my being different to others and loneliness doesn't bother me that much anymore, but it sure would be good to have a sympathetic ear and a good friend nearby at times....

That having been said, you are not alone. You have the rest of the Avalon community here, the majority of which would support you when you need it if you ask. We will have to draw strength from that community as time goes on and events start to unfold in earnest....

[ulli]

we are born alone, we die alone,

vortexes like birth and death canals are too narrow to fit more than one at a time...

before and after there are moments where someone can hold our hand...

there are many mini birth and death moments throughout life.

Right now I feel connected to all who wrote in this thread,
especially those who might be Aspies
(Asperger's syndrome)

[crosby]

Rainbow44 don't become discouraged. keep talking. it's the only way to catch somebody's attention. i go through the same thing everyday. some people just try to ignore it, others think i'm nuts, and still some are incensed that i have the nerve to speak of such things. but, there is at least one or two people every week or so, that pay attention. they ask me questions, ask me where they can go too find information. it is a slow dance. you have too keep moving, keep talking. there are going to be some that never wake up. and there are going to be some who will wake up, but won't talk about it out of fear, and there will be some that jump up onto your dance floor and take the dance with you. just keep talking.
warmest regards, corson

[manny]

Posted by ulli (here)
we are born alone, we die alone,
vortexed like birth and death are too narrow to fit more than one at a time...
before and after there are moments where someone can hold our hand...

there are many mini birth and death moments throughout life.

Right now I feel connected to all who wrote in this thread,

especially those who might be Aspies
(Asperger's syndrome)

who do think has Aspies

[jcocks]

I have high-functioning autism. It's basically the same thing (some differences, but not many). I remember hearing somewhere that the natives of the world believe us aspies / autistics make good shamans. Personally, I've had many a card reading with "connection to the source" coming up. I take great solace in my spiritual beliefs, they're basically what have seen me through this life (that and my family, whom I love so much I couldn't put them through any pain deliberately.). I also want to see this through, I'm convicned we'll see the emergence of the new world in our lifetime, though whether we'll see it fully take hold is another matter. It's going to be a big learning curve for a lot of peoplr, but nowhere near as painful as a lot of previous events on this beautiful blue-green orb of ours....

[ulli]

What a lovely post you wrote there, Jcocks. And to express so much hope.
I'm a mild case, I learnt early to disguise it.
However, one might say that even going into the dress design world was part of my self protection strategy.
Finding a persona that fit both myself as well as the world in which I moved,
by inventing certain dress styles.

A lot of my arty friends from the 70s were also mildly affected.
I didn't realize it then, but now in retrospect I see the signs were there.
Artistic geniuses who had problems communicating.

Several of the big stars I met, Jimmy Page, Bryan Ferry, Dave Stewart,
Cat Stevens, and who several who played in lesser known bands.
We don't play the social game the way other people play it;
we just don't know how to fit in, and were lucky if our artistic expression touched a nerve with the public.
If there was wealth as a result it became useful to buy the protective lifestyle needed.
I still spend much of my time in solitude, except for my loving close family who understand me.
The few really close friends I have are all shy, childless, single, hermits, and very dedicated to their work.

[Shezbeth]

In my journey, I have only 3 categories of participants.

My one and only - with whom I can discuss, share, debate, discourse; who sees the world as I see it, knows what I know, and seeks as I seek.

My associates - those in my immediate surroundings who I have exposed to some level of the type of disclosure I have, and who aren't resolved to one way or another but who also know that none of my findings are shaky, uninformed, or unsupported by facts and research. These are those who know that even if they do not, I take this subject matter seriously and if asked I won't hesitate to tell them what I have found and what I have concluded with a conviction and degree of certainty and honesty that, in some, is more the reason for any curiosity than the information it's self.

Them - Yeah, them. Rather, I refer to them as thems, simply because the mass of them is overwhelming and they seem so actively pursuant of being 'them'. It is not bad IMO to be a them, but it is usually adverse for me to be in contact with a them.

[PHARAOH]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by Rainbow44 (here)
Last week I was about to pull my hair out because I had come to a disagreement with my father about what's happening on the planet. If I tell friends and family about the serious problems in Japan that are not being reported by the general mainstream media they think I'm nuts. My father believes that mainstream news keeps him informed and if it's not reported, it's not important. If I say anything about chem trails, vaccinations or fluoride in the water they say I am paranoid or out to lunch.

I don't know about the rest of you but I am really tired of telling people who don't want to listen what's happening under their noses. I don't feel it's my job to go forth and report bad news but on the other hand I feel I have an obligation to impart important news that is being hidden from the general public especially to friends and family. But very few want to listen and I even have a cousin that if I'm not careful would probably phone in and give my name to the Walmart spy on your neighbor scam.

It's like almost everyone around me might as well be the walking dead because they believe in an illusion of what America once was. It's like they panic and react to different information instead of listening with an open mind. Pretty much they are like reactions waiting to happen and the open mind idea really is not an option.

Do any of you feel alone? Seriously there is literally no one to talk to. If I do talk to people they conveniently change the subject or excuse themselves. The common gossip or conversation does the same thing to me and I tend to avoid it if at all possible.

I like to talk about fun stuff so it's not like I'm doom and gloom all the time but I like to talk to informed people and it's a wake up call to find very few within my circle awake and aware.

So are you all feeling the same way as me? I'm not giving up perhaps just venting.

Thanks and Bless all of you,

Rainbow

I only have this problem with people who don't know me these days.
Those who do take my word for many things as I have been proved right in their eyes.
With people I don't know, they are usually not willing to debate me for long if I disagree with them as I can quote all sorts of stuff from memory.
What I have used before to get hold of peoples attention long enough is leading questions like ''If I knew that X was going to happen to you, you would want me to tell you, wouldn't you?'' and if they say no, then you know you won't succeed due to the nuggetry ratio in their brain being too high.

Posted by PHARAOH (here)
Rainbow44, to think that here you are preaching to the choir. Stand firm but stay grounded. Tell your family and friends how much the Furor would be proud of America today. Tell them how millions of lives were lost and sacrificed only to see Hilter's Germany rise to power here in America. Tell them about project paperclip. Ask them how they feel when the cops stop them from traveling freely, without commiting any crimes and ask for thier papers (Drivers license, Insurance and Registration) before they can move freely about. But more importantly, work on yourself and continue your journey within. We tend to lose ourselves and our way while attempting to revive the sleeping dead. Don't fall in that trap.

No offense to you, that would fall completely on deaf ears if you pulled that out on me.
I would suggest you try to avoid polarising info before you have their attention.
And also avoid it if it is not relevant.

Lord Sidious, Obviously my words did not fall on blind eyes and struck a cord with you. My apologies if I offended you. What works for you may not work for all, as we whom have taken on this challege have learned. Some need shock treatment as opposed to those whom may already be in the know and therfore not much needs to be said. You are more then welcome to make you own suggestions as is every member and we should welcome them all here on this thread. I look forward to reading yours.

[Rainbow44]

Posted by Roseheart (here)
Ah Rainbow honey YES yes yes yes yes....
I have learned to be careful, patient, breathe, accept, nod, walk away and see the funny side much more than I ever used too. It's all a teaching if you want it to be...
I have had a very good friend tell me I'm crazy. She was SO SURE it was scary and it broke my heart, but it taught me to never assume that someone else, no matter how well you think you know them, is ready to hear this stuff... Some people will attack you if you do - it's that simple.
If it is appropriate (and safe for me) I may direct someone to something on youtube or a book and I figure they can do their own learning if there's a wish to.
I now don't see many of the old friends because they are just shallow and I don't resonate with them anymore. This I now accept and I wish them well.
Unfortunately we're not the majority. Yet...
Take care of yourself, I get where you're at.
You're not alone. x

Thank you Roseheart...........I wrote my little commentary late last night because I was feeling the changes in my world. And what is really sad is that as much as I want to be the change it breaks my heart that I can't just snap my fingers and make it all better. I understand we must all learn and grow as we become higher consious beings but I feel for the animals in the Gulf, the Japanese people and for us. Where do we drink fresh water now or good wholesome food.........let's not forget the air we breathe. Anyways I feel better now thanks to you and my friends here on Avalon.........thank God for you all!!

Hugs and Thanks,

Rainbow