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    We all know Project Avalon is a champion of truth. Whistle-blowers are proudly presented here to reveal the fraud and deception that damages us all. Subjects frowned upon by the mainstream media are openly discussed and hotly debated here. In keeping with that spirit of truth-seeking and open inquiry, it occurred to me that a thread dedicated to this activity could be useful. It could act as a clearinghouse or catalog for new inquiry into deception and fraud. We have the opportunity to be whistle-blowers ourselves right here in our own secure and safe haven!

    Let me give you an example close to home. One of our members is operating under an obviously assumed name and could be an “agent provocateur”. I’m hesitant to reveal names here, as this is a very delicate matter, but the first part of his name means “little boy” in Spanish, and the second part means “excrement” in American slang. This “little boy excrement” may be pushing people’s buttons, stirring up discontent, evoking strong reactions, and publicly practicing dissent that could potentially embarrass other members. There is very strong evidence that he has actually “thanked” posts in external forums that could be considered divisive or disrespectful in nature. I happen to know from a very reliable but anonymous source that he has even refrained from thanking highly sensitive posts on external forums in order to preserve his own neck! This demonstrates a dangerous two-faced, back-stabbing attitude that calls into question his very integrity. Should not fraud and deception of this magnitude be publicly called into question? I propose this thread for that purpose. There may be other members at Avalon that need the spotlight of truth shined upon them as well. It is our duty to do so. Many of us have reincarnated here for that very purpose. We had best get on with it.

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    looks around for a light...

    whew, wasn't me...

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    so, "little boy excrement would be you?"
    regards, corson

    chico - little boy
    doodoo - excrement

    are you an agent provocateur?

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    Quote Posted by Chicodoodoo (here)
    We all know Project Avalon is a champion of truth. Whistle-blowers are proudly presented here to reveal the fraud and deception that damages us all. Subjects frowned upon by the mainstream media are openly discussed and hotly debated here. In keeping with that spirit of truth-seeking and open inquiry, it occurred to me that a thread dedicated to this activity could be useful. It could act as a clearinghouse or catalog for new inquiry into deception and fraud. We have the opportunity to be whistle-blowers ourselves right here in our own secure and safe haven!

    Let me give you an example close to home. One of our members is operating under an obviously assumed name and could be an “agent provocateur”. I’m hesitant to reveal names here, as this is a very delicate matter, but the first part of his name means “little boy” in Spanish, and the second part means “excrement” in American slang. This “little boy excrement” may be pushing people’s buttons, stirring up discontent, evoking strong reactions, and publicly practicing dissent that could potentially embarrass other members. There is very strong evidence that he has actually “thanked” posts in external forums that could be considered divisive or disrespectful in nature. I happen to know from a very reliable but anonymous source that he has even refrained from thanking highly sensitive posts on external forums in order to preserve his own neck! This demonstrates a dangerous two-faced, back-stabbing attitude that calls into question his very integrity. Should not fraud and deception of this magnitude be publicly called into question? I propose this thread for that purpose. There may be other members at Avalon that need the spotlight of truth shined upon them as well. It is our duty to do so. Many of us have reincarnated here for that very purpose. We had best get on with it.
    Is this parody?

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    Quote Posted by corson (here)
    so, "little boy excrement would be you?"
    regards, corson

    chico - little boy
    doodoo - excrement
    Corson's an FBI/CIA agent, she figured out who the agent provocateur was waaaaaaaaay too quickly in my opinion....
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    I think that truth and disclosure is what this forum is all about. So I say knock yourself out... HOWEVER even if you are RIGHT methinks the mods would have a problem with you naming names... "Trolling" I think it's called, and I should know... I looked it up after I was banned from Avalon for a month for being accused of doing it.

    The truth, it seems, needs to be rolled out with care and diplomacy, lest those in positions to do so, squelsh it.

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    Quote Posted by corson (here)
    so, "little boy excrement would be you?"
    regards, corson

    chico - little boy
    doodoo - excrement

    are you an agent provocateur?
    Got in one.

    Genuine seeker I would say.

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    so, "little boy excrement would be you?"
    regards, corson

    chico - little boy
    doodoo - excrement
    Corson's an FBI/CIA agent, she figured out who the agent provocateur was waaaaaaaaay too quickly in my opinion....
    no. no. no. i didn't do it........ i am not a crook.......(peace)! i understand what he's saying, he's opening up a new can of worms. i'm interested in seeing what happens. i was going to ask chico if he was also the guy who dressed up like a cow to steal a gallon of milk....(from another thread started here today). that was pretty funny.
    warmest, corson

    all kidding aside for a moment, if chico knows that there are 'provocateurs' here, then we should in all honesty bring it too light. lets see how it works for all.
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    Little boys like to stir sh*t, just to get a reaction, right, Chico(doodoo)?
    And reactions reveal a lot, don't they?
    Since we can't see bogey language nor feces, I mean body language nor faces, I'd say you're onto something here.

    Cool thread, which I will be visiting incognito.
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    Quote Posted by corson (here)
    so, "little boy excrement would be you?"
    regards, corson

    chico - little boy
    doodoo - excrement

    are you an agent provocateur?
    Got in one.

    Genuine seeker I would say.

    Chris
    Gonna keep an eye on Corson now.

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    The way I see the whole issue about either 'being scared to post in case you're "retired" too soon' or 'thanking posts on other sites that seem to go against the grain', is that it creates a bit of a paradox:
    • You're true to yourself & unafraid to upset the applecart (and thus risk a ban, which may be detrimental as whole whole to a wider community)
    • You're lying to yourself by holding yourself back, and thus keeping yourself in favour (which again, may ultimately be detrimental to a wider community)
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    Quote Posted by Chicodoodoo (here)
    We all know Project Avalon is a champion of truth........ It could act as a clearinghouse or catalog for new inquiry into deception and fraud. We have the opportunity to be whistle-blowers ourselves right here in our own secure and safe haven!.....Should not fraud and deception of this magnitude be publicly called into question? I propose this thread for that purpose. There may be other members at Avalon that need the spotlight of truth shined upon them as well. It is our duty to do so. Many of us have reincarnated here for that very purpose. We had best get on with it.
    With that in mind, there was an interesting post on the OM Camelot page: http://lucianarchy.proboards.com/ind...y&thread=10126

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    The way I see the whole issue about either 'being scared to post in case you're "retired" too soon' or 'thanking posts on other sites that seem to go against the grain', is that it creates a bit of a paradox:
    • You're true to yourself & unafraid to upset the applecart (and thus risk a ban, which may be detrimental as whole whole to a wider community)
    • You're lying to yourself by holding yourself back, and thus keeping yourself in favour (which again, may ultimately be detrimental to a wider community)
    A test case?

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    Quote Posted by Nairnia (here)
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    The way I see the whole issue about either 'being scared to post in case you're "retired" too soon' or 'thanking posts on other sites that seem to go against the grain', is that it creates a bit of a paradox:
    • You're true to yourself & unafraid to upset the applecart (and thus risk a ban, which may be detrimental as whole whole to a wider community)
    • You're lying to yourself by holding yourself back, and thus keeping yourself in favour (which again, may ultimately be detrimental to a wider community)
    A test case?
    Without naming names, or admittedly knowing the whole history of this certain individual, my perception is that someone got retired for merely thanking a post on an external site.
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    In my case I was more afraid of getting "beat up" on a thread BEFORE the bans

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    Quote Posted by jjl (here)
    In my case I was more afraid of getting "beat up" on a thread BEFORE the bans
    I know what you mean, there are a few "playground bullies!"

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    I've thanked posts in support of their right to opposition, not always because I agree. Or even a point I don't agree with that was made exceedingly coherently.

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    Quote Posted by DevilPigeon (here)
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    The way I see the whole issue about either 'being scared to post in case you're "retired" too soon' or 'thanking posts on other sites that seem to go against the grain', is that it creates a bit of a paradox:
    • You're true to yourself & unafraid to upset the applecart (and thus risk a ban, which may be detrimental as whole whole to a wider community)
    • You're lying to yourself by holding yourself back, and thus keeping yourself in favour (which again, may ultimately be detrimental to a wider community)
    I don’t agree Pigeon, this issue came up months ago and I posted then saying it was wrong being a member of both sites. Many didn’t agree and I was heavily criticised at the time.

    Why should anyone be scared posting, provided its sensible and honest post away.

    If the reason for being on any forum is to agree with everyone and gain lots of “thanks” I would suggest something is wrong with the person’s motive.

    Its better sticking with Avalon or Richards site, tittle tattling between the two is in my view Bill’s gripe about integrity. Actually I think Bill made a mistake in calling the thread Integrity, “two faced” might have been better.

    Stick with Avalon and lets get on..

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    Quote Posted by Fred259 (here)

    Why should anyone be scared posting, provided its sensible and honest post away.
    No one should. I posted a question to a persistant poster of anti-western propoganda from questionable sources and had one "member" personally attack me and my motivation and accusing me of being a troll. It just wasnt worth the hassle and unpleasantness....

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    Can i just say i am feeling very negative about this i feel there is a storm brewing.Anyone would like to pm concerning this please do so if there is any truth to this

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    Quote Posted by Fred259 (here)
    Why should anyone be scared posting, provided its sensible and honest post away.
    Good question. The answer, of course, is that no one should be afraid of posting. When people are, there is a problem, and generally, it is fear of consequences.

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