How long are we going to have to wait?

[OnyxKnight]

Posted by karelia (here)
And no, I don't believe for one moment that Jesus would hate this world. Christ is all about love, with a complete absence of hate.

You have twisted the context in which I said that he would hate this world.

My point was that he would frown upon the misery, corruption, tragedy and negativity embedded in almost every single aspect of our society. You can't really be serious in thinking that he might actually like it, do you?

[danjenks007]

Posted by karelia (here)



And yes, I do believe that all religion has been falsified. The core truths are maybe still there, but definitely hidden, and a lot of lies have been added, too.

And no, I don't believe for one moment that Jesus would hate this world. Christ is all about love, with a complete absence of hate.

dose this mean then that there is or was a original religion with the truth attached to it but has been corupted ---please can you clarify

To me its true that jesus would love this world because of his appreciation of what the source has created, ie food so we can be sustained
thankyou
i hope that this will get interesting passiglight
i here you onyxknight , you are correct he wouldnt be happy but he wouldnt dwell on it....

[Darla Ken Jensen Pearce]

Yes, Christ would not be happy that what he stood for was so corrupted and has led to endless wars in his name and the name of other Ascended Masters. Many religions await his arrival not realizing that he was an example of our spiritual serves and what we are to become by example. His return is as a Christ Consciousness rather than a person and we are each expected to become like him in order to enjoy the New Golden Age that is coming. Not many are able to make this quantum leap with current leadership ; )

THis New Golden Age is the human being melding with our higher spiritual aspect which brings Heaven to Earth and Earth to Heaven. It's why we came here for this great experiment even if we got bogged down for a few extra million years until enough light came forth to bring these fabulous new changes into being. Incidentlaly, if you look around the most religious of folks will have an immediate desire to kill you for voicing such a message as this one. Oh, well. As my husband, a former Catholic Priest answered when I expressed my surprise that when you act Christlike, you are crucified, "Well, what did you expect?" He said without blinking.

He pretty much said it all. Much love anyway! Just become LOVE and the rest will come out in the wash ; ) xoxoxox

[Heartsong]

http://fortezone.org/Index020_cast.html

What's the purpose of adding these pictures in? They're cast members of an "over 18" webstory/soap opera.
didn't you know?

[norman]

Well, it's been a fascinating goose chase around the internet.

I found this on my travels:

Soon after Barnard released NESARA on the internet, a user known as "Dove of Oneness" began posting about it in internet forums. "Dove of Oneness" has since been identified as Shaini Goodwin, a former student of The Ramtha School Of Enlightenment.[2] According to Goodwin's web site, the NESARA bill languished in Congress before finally being passed by a secret session in March 2000 and signed by President Bill Clinton. It is claimed that the new law was to be implemented at 10am on 11 September 2001, but that the computers, and data (of the beneficiaries of the trillions of dollars of "Prosperity funds") were destroyed on the second floor of the twin towers. Earlier a gag order issued by the Supreme Court had prohibited any official or private source from discussing it, under penalty of death.[4][5] Goodwin refers to "White Knights," most of them high-ranking military officials, who have since been struggling to have the law implemented despite opposition by President George W. Bush. Goodwin allegedly believes and purports that Bush orchestrated the September 11, 2001 attacks and the Iraq War as distractions from NESARA.[6][7] Goodwin's description of NESARA goes far beyond Barnard's proposal by cancelling all personal debts, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, declaring world peace, and requiring new presidential and congressional elections. Goodwin often claims that Bush officials are attempting to hack into and bring down her web site to prevent her from publicizing the law.


The above passage is from an entry in Wikipedea under NESARA.

[Aurelius]

Posted by passiglight (here)
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And of course the "charles" connection with the name,,,,,,,,is of course prince charles,,,,,who atticus would fix stuff for,,,,,,,,,,,,and who is a huge admirer of Philipe,,,,,,,
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Bill chose the name Charles .... errr .... so the two names being the same is co-incidental ..

(ie. Charles did not choose his pseudo-name)

[Darla Ken Jensen Pearce]

Amazing what you can find on Wikipedia! Great news! You know if all the people knew about Nesara and most have never heard of it ~ or are suffering from Collective Amnesia ~ of some sort or other, we could put through these changes immediately if not sooner. There are rumors that the IRS is no more and when people hear this they do a little freedom dance. They've (IRS) been exposed as a private corporation based in Puerto Rico but this news hasn't even reached Avalon yet nevermind the internet. So what's the holdup?

Corrupt media not talking? Why isn't it all over the internet by now? Why aren't lightworkers and Wayshowers talking about it either? They and I am one of them, seem to be so busy scraping out a iiving and charging high rates for their spiritual gifts they are missing this call. The ones promoting and awaiting with baited breath Nesara do not seem to be connected with spiritual groups very much, it's more like rednecks but that's just my humble opinion living so closely next to them all my life. One could use a scorecard but sooner or later, all these disparate little nerve endings have to connect and make it happen. Okay, it must be time for my nap. Carry on, sweethearts! Just include World Peace and Prosperity in case I don't wake up in time for the vote! xoxoxoxox

[Rocky_Shorz]

whispers... ever heard of the name Ron Paul? He has been fighting IRS and the Fed for not being part of America since he started in politics...

[norman]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
whispers... ever heard of the name Ron Paul? He has been fighting IRS and the Fed for not being part of America since he started in politics...

I also read in that Wiki thing that Ron Paul has voiced his opposition to NESARA too.

[karelia]

Posted by OnyxKnight (here)
You have twisted the context in which I said that he would hate this world.

My point was that he would frown upon the misery, corruption, tragedy and negativity embedded in almost every single aspect of our society. You can't really be serious in thinking that he might actually like it, do you?

I doubt that would qualify as twisting. I took your words for their face value. And of course I don't think he might like any aspect of our society. I would rather think that his heart goes out to all of us putting ourselves into such a situation. In that I absolutely agree with you.

[Rocky_Shorz]

I started reading this about Great Britain owning US since 97... link

it lead me to the PICTs I was looking for...

[karelia]

Posted by danjenks007 (here)
Does this mean then that there is or was a original religion with the truth attached to it but has been corrupted ---please can you clarify

<snip>

I don't think so. As far as I know, every single religion is man-made. Some contain more truth, others less, but all are man-made with the goal to control people.

[humanalien]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
whispers... ever heard of the name Ron Paul? He has been fighting IRS and the Fed for not being part of America since he started in politics...

I like ron paul and all but i think he is to weak to be able to do
anything if he becomes president. He still tows the republican
line to so that means that he isn't as good as everyone makes
him out to be. He could surprise us though, so lets wait and see.

[T Smith]

Posted by danjenks007 (here)
I think this thread is to see how many of us will reply to this passiglight's suggestion of his so called information he's got and we are being fooled, baring in mind that the thread that passiglight is refering to was a big hit, but then thats my opinion........

peace to my knew friends one

dose any one think the same

To what end? Just to see how many people he or she can get into a room?

[enoch]

Philipe/Jesus + Charles/Disciple

My discernment alarm rings loudly when I read this

as well it should

Luke 17:23-24
23 "And they will say to you, 'Look here!' or 'Look there!' Do not go after them or follow them.
24 "For as the lightning that flashes out of one part under heaven shines to the other part under heaven, so also the Son of Man will be in His day.
(NKJ)

Matt 24:26-27
26 "Therefore if they say to you, 'Look, He is in the desert!' do not go out; or 'Look, He is in the inner rooms!' do not believe it.
27 "For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
(NKJ)

If Jesus were on earth then that would mean that all religion is false.

If Jesus were on earth that would make GOD a liar please keep in mind religion is man made.

not only are the features strikingly similar but st germain has all the abilities that one would expect of Jesus and considering st germains ability to appear and disappear at will and Jesus turning up at various events just lately and the various other attributes the two of them sharei think its safe to assume that they are one in the same character,,,,,,,,

Passiglight These two characters may appear Christ like but rest assured they are not Christ. We must be careful what we lay at the feet of the Lord.
By investigating the scriptures we can see that Jesus now sets at the right hand of GOD. making intersession for man

Mark 12:36
36 "For David himself said by the Holy Spirit: 'The Lord said to my Lord, "Sit at My right hand, till I make Your enemies Your footstool." '
(NKJ)

Ps 110:1
1 The LORD said to my Lord, "Sit at My right hand, till I make Your enemies Your footstool."
(NKJ)

Rom 8:34
34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.
(NKJ)

Heb 7:25-27
25 Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
26 For such a High Priest was fitting for us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and has become higher than the heavens;
27 who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people's, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself.
(NKJ)


So were left with the hypothesis of Philipe/Jesus + Charles/Apostle
IMHO you may be looking at this backwards.
How about Philipe/Nephilim + Charles/decieved at best.

And no, I don't believe for one moment that Jesus would hate this world. Christ is all about love, with a complete absence of hate.

Well said

John 3:16-18
16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
17 "For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
18 "He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
(NKJ)
Rom 3:3-4
3 For what if some did not believe? Will their unbelief make the faithfulness of God without effect?
4 Certainly not! Indeed, let God be true but every man a liar. As it is written: "That You may be justified in Your words, and may overcome when You are judged."
(NKJ)

you should have stopped at your first post.

Thanks for the laugh

Peace Enoch

[161803398]

I like ron paul and all but i think he is to weak to be able to do
anything if he becomes president. He still tows the republican
line to so that means that he isn't as good as everyone makes
him out to be.

What did he do that was weak and how did he tow the line? Curious.

[The One]

Everybody is curious

Nobody can tell you what you dont already know.Don't follow any advice, no matter how good, until you feel as deeply in your spirit as you think in your mind that the counsel is wise

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
I started reading this about Great Britain owning US since 97... link

it lead me to the PICTs I was looking for...

Thanks for that. I did tell you guys that all the land in north america is beholden to the crown and that the british won the war of independance, did I not?

[passiglight]

I am a WET PAINT toucher,,,,,,

If the sign says wet paint don't touch,,,,,,i touch it,,,,,

Can't explain why,, it's just the way i was put together,,,,,,,,

So when atticus rolled into town i had to check out and verify for myself some of the things he as stating and also i had to explore why he rolled into town in the first place,,,,,,,,,,

He said he wanted to do some ball kicking or something like that,,,,,,,,,

And imo he did,,,,,,,

As far as i can see he came here with one extremely important message........

And that was to tell us that we have 2 suns,,,

He pretty much left that topic at that,,didn't really take it any further and the rest for me was just a soap opera,,,,,,,

Well there you have it,,,,,,,,planet x is a reality,,,,,,,,,,,,

It's coming withing the next 5-6 years and we are all going to die,,,,,,,straight forward,dead simple and totally exact,,,,,,

Nigh on everyone is in complete denial about the implications of a simple straight forward sentence,,,,,,,

WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE,,,,,,,,,,

It's just a few simple words,,,,,,,,but it's something i believe utterly and totaly and i don't for the life of me understand why other people fail to grasp the exact nature of this scenario

It barely gets a mention on here,probably for the lack of evidence,,,,,,

Yet the evidence has been laid before us,plain and simple,,,,

As i have said allready, i believe atticus was completely telling the truth as he sees and knows it, and he told us we live in a system with 2 suns, which is the grand secret that the ptb are trying to conceal,and for the absolutely obvious reasons that if everyone truly believed this scenario they would probably not play the game of life anymore and anarchy would break out and the system we live would simply fall apart.

For me i had to check up and legitimise what atticus was/is and what/is his master is.......and this i have done to my own personal satisfaction,,,,,i have more evidence of this stuff but it will take me time to put it into conetext,,,,,which i didn't apreciate when i first started this thread....

Philipe is 5000 years old,,,,,,,that makes him 3000 years older than jesus,,,,,,get real people,,,,,,3000 years older than christ himself,,,,,,,and you dont see the implications here !!!

Philipe is the only living soul on this planet who was here when planet x came around last time,,,,,,,,,,he witnessed it's destructive properties,,, he was at atlantis,,,,,he knows what is going down,,,,,,,,

The computer simulations were all about planet x turning up and how to best manage that situation,,,,,,,,nothing else,just purely that scenario,,,,,,

The wars ,, the squabbles have all been about how to manage the destruction of our planet,,,,,,,,,

and they can only see how to manage it with a much lesser population,,,,,,,,because there won't be enough land left after this planet has passed by to produce enough food on,,,,,it's so bloody glaringly simple,,,,,,,

everything,, and i mean everything has come from this persons perspective,,,,,,what he doesn't know,, what he hasn't experienced isn't worth even thinking about..........

And he has kept the upper classes in the loop for years,,,,,,,,

We don't count,,we the masses just don't count in the figures,we never did,, just fodder,,,,,,,

Now, the point is however,, i think philipe has come to realise that actually we do count,,,,,

and that to acheive his goal of sitting at the table with some entity known as the creators (whatever),,,,,,,i think he has come to realise that he's going to have to save a lot more lives than just the select few,,,,,,,,

who actually won't survive anyhow, because the opposing factions have designed to create as much damage as is possible,,,,,,,,

for example,, they know that everything below 1000 feet below sea level is gonna get mashed,,,,,,so what do they do ???

they build all the nuclear power plants right on the coast,,,,,,,there will be nothing left alive in the sea after this event,, well nothing that can be consuled anyhow,it will all be totally radioactive,,,,that is gonna keep the elites underground for 100 years,not the ten years they first planned for,,,,,

The game is up,it's check mate,and everyone has lost,,,,,,,

Unless the DNA switch happens before this then its just simply to late,,,,,,,,,

or unless they can utilise tesla technology and split planet x into little bits,,,,,,, even then your gonna still get a planet totally bombarded by asteroids,,,,,,

It's either complete planet bail out or DNA switch,the rest is history,,,,,,,

So go and enjoy your life before tshtf,,,,,,,,because it gameover,and you heard it from the horses mouth,,,,,,

that being the fantastic entity named Philipe,,,,,,

cl

[boja]

mmmmmmmm MAYBE