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    by Paul Craig Roberts

    The US government’s bin Laden story was so poorly crafted that it did not last 48 hours before being fundamentally altered. Indeed, the new story put out on Tuesday by White House press secretary Jay Carney bears little resemblance to the original Sunday evening story. The fierce firefight did not occur. Osama bin Laden did not hide behind a woman. Indeed, bin Laden, Carney said, "was not armed."

    The firefight story was instantly suspicious as not a single SEAL got a scratch, despite being up against al Qaeda, described by former Pentagon chief Donald Rumsfeld as "the most dangerous, best-trained, vicious killers on the face of the earth."

    Every original story detail has been changed. It wasn’t bin Laden’s wife who was murdered by the Navy SEALs, but the wife of an aide. It wasn’t bin Laden’s son, Khalid, who was murdered by the Navy SEALs, but son Hamza.

    Carney blamed the changed story on "the fog of war." But there was no firefight, so where did the "fog of war" come from?

    The White House has also had to abandon the story that President Obama and his national security team watched tensely as events unfolded in real time (despite the White House having released photos of the team watching tensely), with the operation conveyed into the White House by cameras on the SEALs helmets. If Obama was watching the event as it happened, he would have noticed, one would hope, that there was no firefight and, thus, would not have told the public that bin Laden was killed in a firefight. Another reason the story had to be abandoned is that if the event was captured on video, every news service in the world would be asking for the video, but if the event was orchestrated theater, there would be no video.

    No explanation has been provided for why an unarmed bin Laden, in the absence of a firefight, was murdered by the SEALs with a shot to the head. For those who believe the government’s story that "we got bin Laden," the operation can only appear as the most botched operation in history. What kind of incompetence does it require to senselessly and needlessly kill the most valuable intelligence asset on the planet?

    According to the US government, the terrorist movements of the world operated through bin Laden, "the mastermind." Thanks to a trigger-happy stupid SEAL, a bullet destroyed the most valuable terrorist information on the planet. Perhaps the SEAL was thinking that he could put a notch on his gun and brag for the rest of his life about being the macho tough guy who killed Osama bin Laden, the most dangerous man on the planet, who outwitted the US and its European and Israeli allies and inflicted humiliation on the "world’s only superpower" on 9/11.

    When such a foundational story as the demise of bin Laden cannot last 48 hours without acknowledged "discrepancies" that require fundamental alternations to the story, there are grounds for suspicion in addition to the suspicions arising from the absence of a dead body, from the absence of any evidence that bin Laden was killed in the raid or that a raid even took place. The entire episode could just be another event like the August 4, 1964, Gulf of Tonkin event that never happened but succeeded in launching open warfare against North Vietnam at a huge cost to Americans and Vietnamese and enormous profits to the military/security complex.

    There is no doubt that the US is sufficiently incompetent to have needlessly killed bin Laden instead of capturing him. But who can believe that the US would quickly dispose of the evidence that bin Laden had been terminated? The government’s story is not believable that the government dumped the proof of its success into the ocean, but has some photos that might be released, someday.


    As one reader put it in an email to me: "What is really alarming is the increasingly arrogant sloppiness of these lies, as though the government has become so profoundly confident of their ability to deceive people that they make virtually no effort to even appear credible."

    Governments have known from the beginning of time that they can always deceive citizens and subjects by playing the patriot card. "Remember the Maine," the "Gulf of Tonkin," "weapons of mass destruction," "the Reichstag fire" – the staged events and bogus evidence are endless. If Americans knew any history, they would not be so gullible.

    The real question before us is: What agenda or agendas is the "death of bin Laden" designed to further?

    There are many answers to this question. Many have noticed that Obama was facing re-election with poor approval ratings. Is anyone surprised that the New York Times/CBS Poll finds a strong rise in Obama’s poll numbers after the bin Laden raid? As the New York Times reported, "the glow of national pride" rose "above partisan politics, as support for the president rose significantly among both Republicans and independents. In all, 57 percent said they now approved of the president’s job performance, up from 46 percent."

    In Washington-think, a 24% rise in approval rating justifies a staged event.

    Another possibility is that Obama realized that the the budget deficit and the dollar’s rescue from collapse require the end of the expensive Afghan war and occupation and spillover war into Pakistan. As the purpose of the war was to get bin Laden, success in this objective allows the US to withdraw without loss of face, thus making it possible to reduce the US budget deficit by several hundred billion dollars annually – an easy way to have a major spending cut.

    If this is the agenda, then more power to it. However, if this was Obama’s agenda, the military/security complex has quickly moved against it. CIA director Leon Panetta opened the door to false flag attacks to keep the war going by declaring that al Qaeda would avenge bin Laden’s killing. Secretary of State Clinton declared that success in killing bin Laden justified more war and more success. Homeland Security declared that the killing of bin Laden would motivate "homegrown violent extremists" into making terrorist attacks. "Homegrown violent extremists" is an undefined term, but this newly created bogyman seems to include environmentalists and war protesters. Like "suspect," the term will include anyone the government wants to pick up.

    Various parts of the government quickly seized on the success in killing bin Laden to defend and advance their own agendas, such as torture. Americans were told that bin Laden was found as a result of information gleaned from torturing detainees held in Eastern European CIA secret prisons years ago.

    This listing of possible agendas and add-on agendas is far from complete, but for those capable of skepticism and independent thought, it can serve as a starting point. The agendas behind the theater will reveal themselves as time goes on. All you have to do is to pay attention and to realize that most of what you hear from the mainstream media is designed to advance the agendas.
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts304.html

    Possibly another real agenda is to slowly wake up the populus by confusing them in what to believe and who to trust. Then turn them against each other or people higher up but not the highest people (elite) as they still retain control and remain hidden as they have sacraficed some higher up scapegoats.

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    Quote Posted by oceanz (here)
    Quote Posted by Paul Craig Roberts
    As one reader put it in an email to me: "What is really alarming is the increasingly arrogant sloppiness of these lies, as though the government has become so profoundly confident of their ability to deceive people that they make virtually no effort to even appear credible."
    I can easily see the same MO (modus operandi) used for the bin Laden operation that was used for the 9/11 operation. Since 9/11 worked so well at fooling the American public, the assumption is that this MO will fool them again just as easily.

    Judging from the reaction of the simple-minded American public, it appears that it will, too.

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    I thought about the seals helmet cams yesterday morning watching my fovorite disinfo. network MSNBC hyping up the old fog of war routine. Um, hello? I'm a carpenter not a rocket scientist, but I were just a wonderin how ya get fog of war when first you watched it happen live, and you can go back over the footage frame by frame in case you forgot what happened.

    I just happened to catch a little squib at the bottom of the screen on another of my favorite disinfo. networks FOX Business that warned the new intelligence says trains are the next target. Looks like Alex Jones is right, TSA in going on to trains, buses, then malls, etc. If I were planning the upcoming false flag event, I'd plan the patsy to be a white, gun toting bloke like myself who is so far into the lunatic fringe he doesn't even trust his government. Can't have those kind of people running around when you THINK you're about to crown your fancy schmancy little world government.

    Something else I've begun to chew on. Major world events are knocking other major world events off the headlines so quickly now, it's making me think "Shock and Awe". Carpet bomb the flock with an avalanche of bewildering news of both highs and lows to get them living in a tizzy. Then wheel out the false flag to crush any remaining independent thought and insert terror in it's place. According to MK ULTRA guidelines, the flock should be traumatized enough by now to eagerly receive their programming. (sounds like fun huh?)

    Thank you for listening to my morning coffee musings.

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    For a lot of folks, besides the terminally stupid, there is a desperate need to to believe in their government,
    in the solidity of the collective World-view (Herd-View) -for many there is a genuine sliver of doubt about all this, but they are so heavily
    invested into their conditioned perspective-and have nothing to replace this trust with-these are dangerous people, they will even kill
    to perpetuate the 'common sense' paradigm....

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    I think that as time passes by and as more and more people wake up to what the governments are and have been doing then the chances are that any new major lie or false flag event might backfire badly on the perpetrators.Not that long ago the announcement of the killing of OBL would of passed by without hardly any thought by most that it might be total bs....but not now.

    Sure the masses are fooled but nowhere near as many people blindly believe the spin anymore.The suspicion is growing quickly that the governments and msm are lying.More people are starting to question what they are told by the talking heads on the tv.

    The establishment used to be able to do as they pleased right under the noses of the sleeping public but things have changed.The next big false flag might come back to bite them.

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    The West actively WANTS there to be Islamic fundamentalism as it blinds people with faith, and stops them thinking about freedom through knowledge and education. The Islamists prey on the poverty and ignorance, sensationalizing the Arab-Israeli conflict, and recruiting "martyrs". Here, the cycle begins. I'm sure you can come full circle to the big picture from hereon.

    For this reason, I believe that we will see very similar regimes coming to power in the newly liberated Arab countries, that will keep the peace with Israel and continue to oppress the population, once the hysteria has died down. They will errr and ummm, oooh and ahhh, and maybe you will see small incidents of civil strife here and there, until the will and motivation of the people is broken and dumbed down. Back to square one. Can you imagine if Egypt elects a government that abandons the Camp David accord? The US and Israel will never allow it, although it is one key popular demand of the revolution in said country.

    As for the Bin Laden charade: I believe this is a precursor to future assassinations of major figures in the arab and muslim world. The US has given the green-light to Israel to actively target people such as Ismael Haniya (Hamas), Hassan Nasrallah (Hizbullah). The PR event will also prepare the world for the possible targeting of Gaddafi and Assad. Laying down the brick work toward de-sensitizing the MSM audience, saying that killing someone we think is an asshole without trial is fine.


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    In MSM they reported that computers etc were seized that contained plans for a terrorist attack to coincide with the 9/11 10th year anniversary.

    Anything that happens from now on will be because Osama planned it based on these seized plans.

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    I guess the "CIA" outsource to a point

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    Personally I think they are gonna use this as a reason to invade/pressure Pakistan. One this is for certain; lots of propaganda on the air waves right now!

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    Quote Posted by yaksuit (here)
    I guess the "CIA" outsource to a point

    Bachelor of Arts (Security, Terrorism and Counter-terrorism) :
    http://apply.worlddegrees.com/Open-U...2-a54fd3301d94
    Depends how long it takes...

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