Background of George Orwell (Eric Arthur Blair)

[edina]

I recently decided to revisit the information on Tavistock due to the information coming out about Nicole Junkerman.

While reading the book, "The Tavistock Institute on Human Relations", by John Coleman, which can be found in the Avalon library, here, I wondered how Tavistock had been covered here in Avalon.

To satisfy my curiosity I did a “Tavistock” keyword search on Avalon. This pulled up 24 pages worth of posts.

I started skimming these pages and came across this interesting thread about George Orwell, that Lord Siduous started back in 2011.

Using the Socratic method he guided people through making their own discovery about the relationship of Orwell’s books Animal Farm and 1984 and the Fabian Society and their plan for NWO.

(starting on page 22 of the Tavistock search results.) Background of George Orwell (Eric Arthur Blair)

This led me to pull my book, 1984, from my shelves. Serendiptously, the book fell open to page 206, 207:

There are only four ways in which a ruling group can fall from power.
1. Conquered from without.
2. Governs so inefficiently that the masses are stirred to revolt.
3. Allows a strong and disconnected Middle Group to come into being.
4. Loses its own self-confidence and willingness to govern.

These causes do operate singly, and as a rule all four of them are present in some degree. A ruling class that would guard against all of them would remain in power permanently. Ultimately the determining factor is the mental attitude of the ruling class itself.

The masses never revolt of their own accord and they never revolt merely because they are oppressed. Indeed, so long as they are not permitted to have standards of comparison they never even become aware that they are oppressed. The recurrent economic crises of past times were totally unnecessary and are not now permitted to happen, but other and equally large dislocations can happen and do happen without political results, because there is no way in which discontent can become articulate. As for the problem of overproduction, which has been latent in our society since the development of machine technique, it is solved by the device of continuous warfare, which is also useful in keying up the public morale to the necessary pitch.

From the point of view of our present rulers, therefore, the only genuine dangers are:
1. The splitting-off of a new group of able, underemployed, power-hungry people, and
2. The growth of liberalism and skepticism in their own ranks.

The problem, that is to say, is educational. It is a problem of continuously molding the consciousness both of the directing group and of the larger executive group that immediately lies below it. The consciousness of the masses need only to be influenced in a negative way.

And then the book goes on to describe the general structure of the society.

Big Brother
Inner Circle
Outer Circle

These are the groups whose consciousness need to be continuously molded.

In our time these three groups correspond with real world groups.

Big Brother – who the banker class works for, the shareholders of the Central Banks
Inner Circle – Banker Class
Outer Circle – Politician, CEO’s, Industry leaders, Think Tanks, Academia

They don’t care what the rest of us think. The correspondence from George Orwell’s 1984, the group described as the "consciousness of the masses", is what most of call, “We, the People” need only be influenced in a negative way.

And how is this done?

According to George Orwell’s book, through Newspeak.

Which in the Appendix in 1984 about Newspeak was said to be fully implemented by 2050.

How does 1984 “Newspeak” correspond to our current world situation?

Narrative control through all forms of media.

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As a side note: What we learn about Tavistock corroborates what George Orwell shares in his book, 1984. The demoralization campaign I've mentioned in other places goes well back to the beginning of Tavistock, when it was still Wellington House. (And even further back, through the Lodges.)

The person on Avalon who has shared more about Tavistock than anyone is Herve'. Here's a link to the keyword search of tavistock, herve'. Also worth reading everything he has shared on the topic.

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I apologize. One has to be a member for the search links to work. You can still get much information from the book links. .

Technical mod note from Bill:
Edina, many thanks for this (excellent ) — but the search link won't work for any other member, either: it's a one-time link for your search only.
However, if you go to search and enter Tavistock as the keyword (search entire posts) and Hervé as the username, and then Show Results as Posts, you'll get them all.

[T Smith]

Posted by edina (here)

And how is this done?

According to George Orwell’s book, through Newspeak.

Which in the Appendix in 1984 about Newspeak was said to be fully implemented by 2050.

How does 1984 “Newspeak” correspond to our current world situation?

Narrative control through all forms of media.


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As a side note: What we learn about Tavistock corroborates what George Orwell shares in his book, 1984. The demoralization campaign I've mentioned in other places goes well back to the beginning of Tavistock, when it was still Wellington House. (And even further back, through the Lodges.)

Thank you edina, outstanding post.

I was just telling one of my colleagues this morning, if one wants to understand what's going on in the world, all one needs to do is read Orwell's 1984. It is chillingly prophetic.

Since it's really no longer even a "warning" about what might be (as it was when I was in high-school) and instead a road map and fictional depiction of what "actually is," I often wonder when the controlling narrative, which definitely infiltrates the public education, encroaches to the point where this book is no longer required or suggested reading for high-school kids.

A little too close to home, eh?

[edina]

Posted by T Smith (here)
Thank you edina, outstanding post.

I was just telling one of my colleagues this morning, if one wants to understand what's going on in the world, all one needs to do is read Orwell's 1984. It is chillingly prophetic.

Since it's really no longer even a "warning" about what might be (as it was when I was in high-school) and instead a road map and fictional depiction of what "actually is," I often wonder when the controlling narrative, which definitely infiltrates the public education, encroaches to the point where this book is no longer required or suggested reading for high-school kids.

A little too close to home, eh?

What I learned when I read this thread is that Orwell's book wasn't necessarily "prophetic". He wrote 1984 in response to his own personal (insider) knowledge about the long term agenda of the Fabian Society/Gradualists/Progressives. (Whose coats of arms is a wolf in sheep's clothing.)

Fabian's (Stained Glass) Window

(A reading of this thread is informative as to how the Socratic Method works, it was insightful to me to observe, many years after it took place, the process as it unfolded)

It seems he wrote his books as a way to warn people (humanity) about their plans.

Chester shared a video of Orwell's last warning, soon before his death.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IysEiTuW1rI

Another insider who tried to warn us is Yuri Bezmenov in his talks about subversion, strategic deception, demoralization, and psychological (ideological) warfare.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wpSPqaD6iOo

We are seeing the results of this decades-long "process of gradual subversion" in our current events today.

In other places I've mentioned the role of Marcuse, his thinking and theories, in how the socialism envisioned from the past has morphed into a modern, (or rather post-modern) version, we see today. However, it is well described by Orwell in 1984, which was written decades before the intense infiltration of the Frankfurt School ideology in US academia.

This is what I've meant when I say the people we are dealing with think in much longer time scales than most people do. Which in my opinion is why history is "cancelled", because it severs people from the perspective that an awareness of history cultivates.

We are in the stages described by Yuri as crises, with an attempt to normalize. Media is throwing that word around a lot recently, "the new normal", ectera...

While all of this is truly apparent in the USA, this is clearly a global process, as well.

Yuri Bezenmov spoke about this as if he thought it originated in the Soviet Union.

It did not, it originated in the precursor organizations of Tavistock and was used against the Russian people to establish the Soviet Union. It was used against the British people to justify WW2, and it's used in modern media to support the "endless war" agenda.

In a recent post on Avalon, this has been described in a super succinct and clear manner by a young woman who has over time, deprogrammed herself from this ideology, Keri Smith.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=kcbybcWeLKA

This is an authoritarian belief system. It's all about control. How do you control people? You control the language. You control what they're allowed to say and think. You make them censor themselves. This really built on self-censorship. (9:15)

Keri Smith described a constant low-level anxiety she felt while she dwelled in this system of thought. It reminded me of Gregory Bateson's concept of "double binds".

Double bind theory was first described by Gregory Bateson and his colleagues in the 1950s.

Double binds are often utilized as a form of control without open coercion—the use of confusion makes them both difficult to respond to as well as to resist.

There is an epidemic of depression in young people. I'm wondering about the potential connection of that to this belief/language/thought system?

Keri Smith's description of how language is subverted, naturally brought to mind the 1984 concept of "newspeak" and of the plan to have this fully implemented by 2050.