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    Excellent work there Loveandgratitude and thanks for bringing in Tavistock.
    We can follow that branch too and a good one to follow is Tavistock and Martin Bryant.

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    a side note:

    One of the reasons you can find this stuff and figure it out is due to the the invention of the typeset press. Books, hardcopy specifically, is your friend.

    This article here, is "documenting* the beginning of the end of the record of history." (*more like vaporously illustrating the very core of ignorance -of what is coming)

    The ugly side of the coin of the internet and non-hardcopy communication is the capacity ...to eventually (reach the point of)... change historical record ----with the flip of a switch.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...time-ever.html

    The internet spreads information beautifully, yes, but there is also downside aspect.

    The good thing is that the internet puts communication first, due to it's ephemeral qualities of being a relatively non-hardcopy system of communication.
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    Excellent points there Carmody.

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    i doubt these numbers amazon released are truly accurate, to be honest. The majority of books sold on amazon are actually sold to customers by independent booksellers who use amazon's site as a middle man. i doubt they took these sales into account when releasing their figures, as technically they are sold by a third party. I think amazon is just trying to create as much pr for the kindle as possible. Same thing goes for the mp3 downloads they offer instead of selling actual cd's.

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    I believe so as well. It is just that the idea of removing hardcopy form the hands of the common man, as an agenda, I feel that there is an undercurrent of that as a very powerful point (indicator) toward Orwellian systems of influence and control. Remember the main character's job, in "1984".
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    Found this very interesting site that back engineers Starwars. It goes through the literal influences of the book from Flash Gordon through Akira Kurosaw, Tolkien to influences from Buddhism.

    It quite a ride, but it is a well researched site. Didn't know where to post it but thought here would be relevant place.
    It also mentions George Lucas' Near death experience and how it changed his life completely.

    http://moongadget.com/origins/index.html

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    Very intriguing and enlightening thread, Lord Sidious, and everyone who has posted! I have enjoyed following and learning! Here's a thought form my own humble, uneducated opinion: if Blair's view of the future, which was set forth in his book "1984", was ultimately a protocol designed by a group, as discussed in this thread, then it is probable that the events therein were scheduled to be immanent by 1984. If so, the fact that world domination has not been entirely and completely realized, that the plan has not been fully actualized and implemented, and it is now 2011, may mean that other positive elements have been actively manifesting an opposing reality to TPTB, i.e., that there is and has always been a hidden variable that TPTB have chosen not to acknowledge; a variable they can in no way control. Thus, to use Discordian terms, the eschaton will not be immanentized. What should have been accomplished in 1984 hasn't been accomplished, and now its months away form 2012, the proverbial nut-check! Time's up, and its time to start feeling the love!!!

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    My vague understanding of the choice of the title of '1984, was that it was a 'flip' or 'mirror' of the year of publication of the book. A literal expression of the double speak in the novel itself. It was not about dates or such.

    I read '1984', 'The space Merchants', 'Brave New World' and other titles in early high school English class. Back when teachers tried to open their students up. I had already read all three, though.
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    Great thread, Lord Sidious. I have never given much thought to George Orwell (other than reading one of his books in school) and now I have spent a fair amount of time researching him, thanks to you. I am waiting for you to start a thread on the Bilderberg Group. I have lots to say about them.......

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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    a side note:

    One of the reasons you can find this stuff and figure it out is due to the the invention of the typeset press. Books, hardcopy specifically, is your friend.

    This article here, is "documenting* the beginning of the end of the record of history." (*more like vaporously illustrating the very core of ignorance -of what is coming)

    The ugly side of the coin of the internet and non-hardcopy communication is the capacity ...to eventually (reach the point of)... change historical record ----with the flip of a switch.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...time-ever.html

    The internet spreads information beautifully, yes, but there is also downside aspect.

    The good thing is that the internet puts communication first, due to it's ephemeral qualities of being a relatively non-hardcopy system of communication.

    Totally agree with you on this one. On another thread I indicated that my family is already busily buying books by the carload. (I don't know where we will keep them all) The issue we see is that the seminal work on a subject is both deep and wide, encompassing the big-bang components of the thought. That material will not be repeated and any later inquirer will not be able to delve the initial work without the book remaining on the shelf to find. How do you know where to find something if you don't know it exists? The internet is like the 'Coles notes' of an idea. It's dumbing down the populace. Wonder who stands to benefit from that?

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    Maybe a wee bit off topic here, but when reading Animal Farm, Pink Floyd's 1977 album Animals struck me square between the eyes. Besides the title not being a coincidence, those guys had access to some pretty deep s**t at a time when David Icke was still a silly ass t.v. guy. They even have their thoughts(which I agree with) on how matters will wind up. Talk about being ahead of your time. I don't know whether Roger Waters is just that smart and observant, or if maybe he attended a Jordan Maxwell talk as a young man.

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    Roger Waters really is that smart... and he has been on a mission of this observed nature (the meanings behind Pink Floyd lyrics and music) since day one.
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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    Roger Waters really is that smart... and he has been on a mission of this observed nature (the meanings behind Pink Floyd lyrics and music) since day one.
    I can personally attest to that statement, Fred S. and Carmody. This evens carries great synchronicity: I am currently wearing as I write this statement a Roger Waters concert T-shirt that my father bought me after seeing him play in Mumbai, India, in 2007! I have thoroughly and seriously studied with pleasure and literary intent the whole of Waters' work. The most pertinent would be his solo album, "Amused to Death", completed with a host of musicians, including Jeff Beck. Anyhow, the song, "The Bravery of Being Out of Range", among others, really seems to hit the nail on the head. Besides that album and the referred to "Animals", I see the song "Have a Cigar" from the album "Wish You Were Here" an obvious reference to Tavistock's recruitment of musicians into the industry.

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    I have, of course, 'amused to death'--on vinyl. I wonder what Orwell would be listening to if he were around today. (Carmody feebly attempting in a very obvious way to not get too far off track)
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    I saw this posted in another thread and thought it belonged here. Hopefull it wasn't put here to begin with.

    Bump.

    http://www.gutenberg.org/files/13715...-h/13715-h.htm

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    Quote Posted by PurpleLama (here)
    I saw this posted in another thread and thought it belonged here. Hopefull it wasn't put here to begin with.

    Bump.

    http://www.gutenberg.org/files/13715...-h/13715-h.htm
    No, noone else posted that link on here -I just read through the entire thread. Thank you PurpleLama

    and I bump also...

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    There is enough material here to chew on for an entire lifetime. Where to begin..........bump.........

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    Synchronicity has been off the hook here lately. Here is the thread where the link to the ebook came from. Looking at the dream, and what came of it, it is kind of chilling.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post326535

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    Hi,

    I don't know if anyone created a thread on the Frankfurt Institute but here are a couple of links.

    http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid...frankfurt.html

    www.marxist.org/subject/frankfurt-school/

    Some basis here: Control through socialization ie media, radio, herd mentality -hegelian dialectic. include desensitization in there of the soul and spirit and later on control through doping society..... and masses are unaware -happy with the status quo -and through staging terrorist or economic downfalls....etc create control of the masses through their own resistances.....etc

    Also look at Aristotle, Plato and Socrates I believe Homer and the Iliad.

    Well this is some of it

    Have a good day

    and thank you for the thread Lord Sid and for everyone who contributed so much good information and for their effort and time.

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    For those who don't want to read the whole thread there is quite a good summary of some of the points covered here by journalist David Aaronovitch: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21337504

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