Shadow Government????

[PixieDust]

I'm sure there are other threads that discuss this, i search through a lot and couldn't find much so i apologize if im being redundant.

for a bit of a back story, my husband is in the army, infantry, and recently just ended his first tour in Afghanistan. He's not one to be into conspiracies and usually takes life as it is and not looking into any more than what he sees. But while on his leave he asked me if i had heard anything about the shadow government. I said no, do you mean like the Illuminati or something? and he immediately shut down and went into soldier mode and wouldn't talk any more about it. a few days later he made a quick comment that i should look it up and nothing more. I searched a little for it but found nothing that i could make sense of so i was wondering if someone could help me understand who they are or what their purpose is or if they are basically the Illuminati.

I feel like he was trying to tell me something but its ingrained so hard in him that he can't talk about it and what the deal is for him to bring it up. I've asked him about it on other occasions and i can actually see him go into lock down and he basically just dismisses me. Theres one mission he went on that he's said he wont ever tell me about and im wondering if it has to do with the shadow government or if it was just a horribly gruesome mission. But his reaction to it and him even being interested in it makes me think its a pretty big deal or at least very real.

i apologize again if theres already a lot of threads started about this i'm new and still trying to figure out how to navigate through all this information!

[loveandgratitude]

Follow the yellow brick road...........

[Omniverse]

I have dealt with the shadow government for quite some time. They are ruthless. They do not display morals in their actions. They will torture, kill, character assassinate, torment, mind control, poison, drug, and so on anyone who opposes them that they can.

I speak to them daily lately, telepathically. They will never own up to their own agenda. They hide everything. They are without honor. They have the agenda, and nothing is non expendable for the agenda, not you, not me, not any of them involved. They are backstabbing douchebags, and a bunch of military heads, among some others(bloodliners). Maybe even ETs(Anunnaki, Greys, etc)

It's a macine that chews up and spits out lives. It works on black project technology in some ways. It uses elite soliders to do it's bidding. Navy seals, green berets, etc. If they set their sights on something, I'm not sure what could stop them minus ETs or inter-dimensionals.

Basically what it is if defined, is a group of beings who actually make up the powers that be(for at least America, in my eyes, most if not all western countries, as well as Israel, and a bunch of other nations). They decide the agenda. They decide who gets assassinated. They allowed 9-11 to happen, and may have mind controlled the culprits. I may add 9-11 was one of their worst jobs. Very sloppy....

No one person is above being killed or smeared for the agenda to preserve, or carry it out. They are vemonous, honorless, horrible leeches who have the best technology shooting down benevolent ETs can buy....

They are not ones to get on the bad side of. And they have the ability to pay attention to people's thoughts. As Ben Rich said, 'No thought on the planet is confidential'(paraphrasing). So your husband is wise to not tell you of them. Once you are caught up in them, I'm not sure you can get out.

I have tried to cut my ties with them, unsuccessfully. They are horrible creatures. I'm not convinced humans are at the top. But that is not proven to me. Anunnaki is my current theory. but it's not a strong one.

[Siberia9]

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[PixieDust]

thank you for the information. im not sure what to say. He's not an elite, just a basic grunt but it makes me think that one mission he went on had to do with "the agenda". He's stationed in germany so we're apart but i could tell when he was thinking about it and it bothers him. After this information im not sure i want to divulge any deeper or know any more about them. not to be ignorant but not to draw attention to myself and in turn him. I hope you can cut your ties with them soon, they do not seem like the type of beings you want to know you. I'd rather just remain a drone to them. your theory of humans not being on the top is a truth to me, its much bigger than us is what im getting from my gut. thanks again and good luck

[PixieDust]

siberia i definitely dont prod him to tell me anything but i let him know im open for him to talk to me. I know he saw a lot of horrible things over there some he's told me some i can see in his eyes. he's working things through pushing away the negative as you said, he works things through mostly on his own. The main reason why i started this thread was because i didnt want to prod him about information and i wanted to get a better understanding of something that i know he was thinking about and troubled about, which from omniverse's post its obvious why if he actually had dealings with them. i know basically nothing is what the media tells us over there, but thanks for the response

[from_Brzil]

Yes.. follow the yellow brick road....

Keep on searching...

There's a lot of information outhere... on this hole story...

Here's what I'd like to offer, for now :

Words from your president, on secret societies and secret government :

( By, the way, How long are you guys in the US going to wait till you DEmand for Truth and transparency ???)

( It is almost 50 years later, and they haven't told you NOT EVEN who shot the president and Why) ... !?... Imagine all the rest... they are not telling....

Is that what they call "sensitive information" for "national security" purposes... Or for "homeland security", or whetever pretty name they choose to give it... That's just not right... In a Healthy political system, people have the right to be informed. That's the only way they can make good decisions.

I think all this shadowness and Secrecy involving so many aspects of your government and military is Done because they cover up really unnaceptabble purposes, actions and behaviors.

We have the right to know what's going on.., Know Our past and history, and where we are headed. We have to take part in these decisions.

You're doing the right thing...
It is our responsibility to care. To take part in it.
I wish you good luck on your quest...
And you will find many great souls on the way. ( here on Avalon for instance)

Felicidades,
;-)

Ps: Sorry for any mistakes in my english, it's not my 1st language... and... it's kind of late here.. rss.. and I'm a bit tired.. so I won't be giving much time reviewing it. ;-)

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhZk8ronces

[Omniverse]

Posted by PixieDust (here)
thank you for the information. im not sure what to say. He's not an elite, just a basic grunt but it makes me think that one mission he went on had to do with "the agenda".

They didnt allow me to explain them fully in my first post. They told me after I laid down they hoped someone would quote that part of my post and expose how limited it was(the navy seal etc part).

They use entire militaries to carry out the agenda as well. So it wouldn't be well summed up by only using elite soldiers, although they do that as well.

The shadow government are the people behind the scenes that control the government. 'The hidden hand'. They plan wars decades in advanced at times(like Iraq). I'm glad nobody took the bait they gave. Sorry for not being 100% clear.

And thank you for your kind words.

[from_Brzil]

One more thing I'd like to say... ( And I'm sorry if it may offend someone, It's not my intention)

It's about time the american people reevaluate their sense of "nationalism", "patriotism" and its relation to Militarism ...

looking from outside. It looks like the US is becoming more and more like a war machine. A militarized society. So many poeple working in the military.. all the money goes there... and thus science, following the money...... in the end, our best brains ans scientists are also working for military purposes.

I was never very proud of military culture anyway.. anywhere.. because, often, it is a system that works by hierarchy, position, ordering and following orders, frequently at the expense of good-healthy- rational dialogue.... Truth, and often, even morals. ( I know I'll get some flames for saying that, but think about it..)

Someone above you, may be very Stupid, or a very bad person, and you, down bellow would still have to follow their decision, orders ?. That's bad.. I would have much trouble having to follow a system like that...

I'd be happy to follow the best. people better then me. Still, I wanna be able to argue.
Who guaranties that those up the ranks are the Best guys ? the smartest, the more conscious, the more developed souls ?.

Bad system.

Same we see with these kids, without many options, being picked up by the military, being brainwahed ... making a living as Assasigns or Killing machines (soldiers) for the elites and their mad wars and crooked Plans.

I really hope these military guys begin to wake up and question the status quo..... that a movement starts inside these organizations... the light starts to shine in people's minds and hearts.... in these military institutions.... that they start to ask questions and realize that their work may not Be for the best interest of the people of this earth.. And that they may have been triccked into doing a dirty Job for Bad People on the Top.

Peace my friends,
;-)

[Calz]

Posted by PixieDust (here)
thank you for the information. im not sure what to say. He's not an elite, just a basic grunt but it makes me think that one mission he went on had to do with "the agenda".

"basic grunts" are demanded to live by certain standards ... keep certain oaths ... and in some circumstances sign certain contracts based on the level of information they are exposed to.

There are many "agendas". As Hoagland is fond of saying ... "the lie is different at every level".

If you love him ... stand by him and try to understand the situation he has placed himself into. Not saying right/wrong or otherwise ...

Thank you for sharing

[T Smith]

Hi PixieDust,

You have opened the door to a huge subject. Even outlining the most abridged overview would be quite a task. There are countless books out there on this very subject. If you want a basic 101 education, I would start with looking at the Bilderberg Group/Trilaterial Commission/CFR agendas and how these groups influence/control the political process. A lot of the pieces will fall into place. For a 201 education, you might begin researching the secret societies, e.g. Skull & Bones and others, which are all Illuminati offshoots. Of course the rabbit hole goes even deeper -- and much deeper -- but you have to begin somewhere and take baby steps. This information can be quite overwhelming, especially if you dive in too deep too fast.

As for your husband, he sounds like a man who has come to a profound epiphany that the world is not at all what he thought it was, based on something he directly experienced. Frankly, I can't see how those in the military can not come this realization, although they are compartmentally trained specifically not to think about the broader scope. If your husband truly is someone who "takes life as it is and does not look into any more than what he sees" his very paradigm of reality might be threatened, depending on what mission he went on and to what end. I'm sure your husband is a brave man, but this kind of paradigm shift can be a very frightening feeling. This can be pretty heavy stuff to the unexpecting... and this is probably very disturbing for him.

Assure him he is not alone. Not sure if that will help or not -- but for sure it's the truth.

[PixieDust]

Posted by Omniverse (here)

Posted by PixieDust (here)
thank you for the information. im not sure what to say. He's not an elite, just a basic grunt but it makes me think that one mission he went on had to do with "the agenda".

They didnt allow me to explain them fully in my first post. They told me after I laid down they hoped someone would quote that part of my post and expose how limited it was(the navy seal etc part).

They use entire militaries to carry out the agenda as well. So it wouldn't be well summed up by only using elite soldiers, although they do that as well.

The shadow government are the people behind the scenes that control the government. 'The hidden hand'. They plan wars decades in advanced at times(like Iraq). I'm glad nobody took the bait they gave. Sorry for not being 100% clear.

And thank you for your kind words.

i'm glad no body took the bait also! I kinda thought that they might use more than just the elite. I didnt think people, or whatever they are, as horrible as them wouldn't limit themselves to just a handful of doers. thank you again for sharing your experience with them, though i would not wish that on anyone.

Posted by from_Brzil (here)
looking from outside. It looks like the US is becoming more and more like a war machine. A militarized society. So many poeple working in the military.. all the money goes there... and thus science, following the money...... in the end, our best brains ans scientists are also working for military purposes.

I was never very proud of military culture anyway.. anywhere.. because, often, it is a system that works by hierarchy, position, ordering and following orders, frequently at the expense of good-healthy- rational dialogue.... Truth, and often, even morals. ( I know I'll get some flames for saying that, but think about it..)

Someone above you, may be very Stupid, or a very bad person, and you, down bellow would still have to follow their decision, orders ?. That's bad.. I would have much trouble having to follow a system like that...

just to let you know you did not offend me at all and what you speak is a lot of truth. its interesting to hear a point of view from a different country. i agree with you so much that america is turning into a militarized country. Its quiet terrifying, except i regret to use that word simply because fear would give them power. My husband joined simply because it was the best option. He was only 20, no college degree, the economy he couldn't get a job that would pay enough to support twins that we were surprised with. I HATE it and so does he, because of the hierarchy. he's only got about a year and a half left till he's free again. if freedom exists in this country anymore.

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

If you love him ... stand by him and try to understand the situation he has placed himself into. Not saying right/wrong or otherwise ...

i do love him very much and its because of that that i even stay with him tied to this craziness. I definitely only give him support and love and dont blame him for anything he's done army related. thank you for your response

Posted by T Smith (here)
As for your husband, he sounds like a man who has come to a profound epiphany that the world is not at all what he thought it was, based on something he directly experienced. Frankly, I can't see how those in the military can not come this realization, although they are compartmentally trained specifically not to think about the broader scope. If your husband truly is someone who "takes life as it is and does not look into any more than what he sees" his very paradigm of reality might be threatened, depending on what mission he went on and to what end. I'm sure your husband is a brave man, but this kind of paradigm shift can be a very frightening feeling. This can be pretty heavy stuff to the unexpecting... and this is probably very disturbing for him.

Assure him he is not alone. Not sure if that will help or not -- but for sure it's the truth.

thank you for the information i'll look into it. I know its affected him but he does understand what exactly it was. thats how i see it anyway. I'm sure his life was shaken. i know he's not quite ready to shift into awareness and the army is pushing too much on him too fast if anything forcing him to retreat farther from awakening. its hard to see a loved one go through this but hopefully once he's free and with time the fear will release and he'll wake up. i'm sure any kind of assurance will help.

[KosmicKat]

While I prefer not to rush in, bible in hand, I would recommend you both to give this verse (Philippians ch.4, v.8) some serious consideration:

Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

It's not just burying your head in the sand and thinking nice-nice, applying this principle will strengthen you against things that might otherwise weaken you.

[Nasu]

In my opinion, the shadow government is just that, a shadow or memory of its former self. Who and what control the upper echelons of our command and control structures and to what end, is open for debate, as there seem to be games within games, factions within factions, agendas within agendas. The shadow government, is not a place or a group, but rather more a mindset of elitism and reward for part playing. To an extent, we are all just grunts on their board, porns, knights, castles or bishops. There is no they, only us, we feed their growth with our apathy for the truth.. N

[aranuk]

Pixie dust I pray your husband manages to end his term with the bloody army and get out alive at the end of it.

Love

Stan

[Steven]

Posted by from_Brzil (here)
One more thing I'd like to say...

...and it was an amazing 'palestra' amigo. I concur with every single thoughts you wrote. I hope the light to awake in every single being on Earth. The truth is coming out and the people are awakening. Consciousness is changing and reality will follow.

Namaste, Steven

[from_Brzil]

Posted by Steven (here)

Posted by from_Brzil (here)
One more thing I'd like to say...

...and it was an amazing 'palestra' amigo. I concur with every single thoughts you wrote. I hope the light to awake in every single being on Earth. The truth is coming out and the people are awakening. Consciousness is changing and reality will follow.

Namaste, Steven

Oh Steven... Thanks... Thanks for your post, and your kind words.. ;-)

That makes me happy.. ... ( and not from a... EGO-ish place )

It's good.. When WE, can function as a vehicle for some Light, some Good, some truth.

Namaste, Brother.
;-)

[Mulder]

Here's some random thoughts about the shadow ones:
1. These people are unbelievably intelligent & manipulative - they LOVE getting young Christian men into the military & getting them to torture, kill, maim, etc. for them even though all of these are forbidden in the bible. Henry Kissinger called soldiers "dumb animals." No wonder they are cutting medical care & taking soldier's death benefits.
2. Margaret Thatcher admitted the the shadow Govt exists.
3. When the devil tempted Jesus, the devil told Jesus he is in charge of the world & would give it to Jesus if he worshipped him. Similar things happened to other religion's prophets too.
4. Some groups like the Council on Foreign relations, the Bilderberg group are their "managers"
5. They are more wealthy than you can imagine - they have built amazing bases the size of cities - some are even underground! Just before the end, they will abduct people they need to work there (like doctors, engineers, etc.)

The 5 points are all verifiable on the internet for you to research.

I'm just wondering why you have centred on this, as your hubby must have told you a lot of other things, so why is this so important to you to start a post about it?

[PixieDust]

Posted by Mulder (here)
I'm just wondering why you have centred on this, as your hubby must have told you a lot of other things, so why is this so important to you to start a post about it?

the shadow government is just something he mentioned and then wouldn't talk about. The fact he mentioned something that seems so conspiracy theorist was interesting to me. I doubt he even asked his parents why the sky is blue when he was a kid. it was just unexpected coming from him when i know he doesnt think more into anything and then when i couldnt find any answers my curiosity just doubled i figured i'd get some answers here and i have. He really didnt tell me too much more than what i already expected, and anything he did tell me were just horific scenes that happened to him or how the rules in the army are completly different . He didnt say anything about why we were really over there or what the deep inner workings of the army is like. I think i probably know more of the truth about that then he does purely cause hes not ready to see it, so he wont see it. which is why him mentioning the shadow government made me want to find out who or what they were. hopefully this answers your question.

[The One]

You say your husband is in the army, infantry and he asked you have you ever heard of the shadow government. Most people on this forum have heard of the shadow government and have their own opinions on this group. I don’t know why he would come out with this and then say look it up on the internet. Most military will never get involved with the shadow government and if your partner was involved with these guys then he his in deep and he would know that asking you to search on the internet for these guys would not tell you the real truth and endless possibilities on what this group could be. I am just going to watch and observe how this thread continues and will come back later.