28. The Earth does not have consciousness.

[Tarka the Duck]

Isn't this pantomime to-ing and fro-ing of "Oh yes, the earth has consciousness!" and "Oh no, it hasn't!" down to a difference in the way we each define consciousness?
Tarka

[Tony]

I apologise for for bringing this back.

If what Alex Collier is saying is true, and what all the investigation is saying is true,
that Greys and Reptilians want human consciousness (as well as their bodies).
No where is it said that they want Earth consciousness.

Love the Earth, love nature.

They are saying don't be tricked.

Tony

[MariaDine]

Namasté

[ROMANWKT]

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[Nanoo Nanoo]

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[ROMANWKT]

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[Koyaanisqatsi]

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
The earth is an inanimate object. Mathematics makes it move. We humanise it.
The forces of our collective ignorance, maintain a sentimentality about the place
we live in.
Of course we must care for it, everything we do should be caring.
What is of utmost importance is your consciousness. When that is in order, then
it can expand to other's welfare. The house you live in only reflects your consciousness.

The earth does not love, or not love. To believe that the world has its own consciousness
and that it will take care of YOU, is living in a fantasy, one where you don't have to do
anything. You have to take responsibility for your life.

The world is in the state its in because of you!
That is precisely why we have to awaken. Do not assume you are awake, yet.

You are making the Earth into a God figure.
We do have to respect the forces of nature,but that is not the whole story.


Tony

Well, I would invite you to refresh yourself on quantum mechanics/quantum theory sir. Dis-unity is an illusion, a powerful illusion as we see here....

[Tenzin]

Hmm... to regard our planet as a living being does make more people want to treat it better...

But I am inclined to keep distinction between the elements (and conditioned compounds) and consciousness clear. Otherwise, I may end up marrying a pillow or a tree...

[ktlight]

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
Dear All,
There surely must be someone else who wants to disagree?
I'm open to suggestions!

pie'n'eal

The fact that we live on this planet and all that is on it has been shaped by/through the planet implies that the planet has consciousness.

[Lettherebelight]

Well said, ktlight.

I like Tenzin's logic and reasoning also.

There are different levels of consciousness. It is presumptuous to assume we are at the pinnacle of realization.

An ant, crawling across a person's leg, has no comprehension of the level of consciousness that the human being possesses.

[Sirius White]

Cool topic.

Haven't read much of it.

But I can tell you every single thing has consciousness. Even that which one might assume to be inanimate.

Why? It is an extension of consciousness. In the same if you viewed this as a massive, unfathomable wavelength, it is a portion of that wave's frequency, a rise in its crest, a tiny little infinite nothing. It is as if you viewed the manifest world and visible spectrum as the portion of the hologram that is merely visible, as if the surface of a deep, deep pool of water. There is a lot beyond that surface that we cannot see or directly experience.

Consciousness brews deep within all things.

[Fred Steeves]

Funny this subject happened to pop back up today, I just mentioned this in a post on another thread. I had about a 15 minute direct encounter with the consciousness of this planet a few months, and it rocked me to my very core. An EXTREMELY emotional experience. Once you've actually been hit by lightning let's say, it's pretty hard for someone to analytically convince you that lightning itself does not exist.

Cheers,
Fred

[Tony]

The earth was created, by universal forces. It had a beginning, it has a middle and it will have an end. Anything that is created has a cause, it has no inherent existence of its own.

[Billy]

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
Dear Nomadguy,
Your potential is far greater than the Earth's.
One day the earth will fall into the Sun...gone!

You just have to find another home.

pie'n'eal

One day your body will be as dust, Gone.

You will have to find another :-)



My tupence worth.

All off creation is made from LIGHT. This light is crystalized and has geometry which is sacred in form. All light is consciousness in motion and communicates back to the source from whence it came. Our Mother Earth included. She is organic, Lives and breaths, gives and nurtures life in all forms. And now she is about to give birth.

[Tony]

Posted by billyji (here)

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
Dear Nomadguy,
Your potential is far greater than the Earth's.
One day the earth will fall into the Sun...gone!

You just have to find another home.

pie'n'eal

One day your body will be as dust, Gone.

You will have to find another :-)



My tupence worth.

All off creation is made from LIGHT. This light is crystalized and has geometry which is sacred in form. All light is consciousness in motion and communicates back to the source from whence it came. Our Mother Earth included. She is organic, Lives and breaths, gives and nurtures life in all forms. And now she is about to give birth.

The earth also takes life...kills...it doesn't mean to! We will endlessly talk at cross purposes. What is sacred is beyond matter.

[Sierra]

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
The earth was created, by universal forces. It had a beginning, it has a middle and it
will have an end. Anything that is created has a cause, it has no inherent existence of its own.

Doesn't seem to be much point in having a body without a consciousness inhabiting it...

How could we move mountains if there was no consciousness to respond to our request?

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
The earth also takes life...kills...it doesn't mean to! We will endlessly talk at cross purposes. What is sacred is beyond matter.

Humans... most murderous organism I know of. And we're sacred ...

[Billy]

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
What is sacred is beyond matter.

Would you say that our Earth is Sacred in the Eyes of creator/source /God pie'n'eal

[Tony]

Posted by billyji (here)

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
What is sacred is beyond matter.

Would you say that our Earth is Sacred in the Eyes of creator/source /God pie'n'eal

If, I were God, it would be the sentient beings that were sacred. The earth is a beautiful organic garden to live in.
If one believes in a Creator, then Creation would appear sacred.
I do not believe in a Creator or that Creation exists, but I do believe in the very nature of that Creator and Creation and that is sacred!

Consciousness is the relative world, Emptiness essence is the Absolute world.
Our true nature is beyond matter. Our problem is that we believe phenomena to be real. It is transient.

However we should respect all things, this is the unity of the relative and the absolute.

Tony

[Tony]

Posted by Sierra (here)

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
The earth was created, by universal forces. It had a beginning, it has a middle and it
will have an end. Anything that is created has a cause, it has no inherent existence of its own.

Doesn't seem to be much point in having a body without a consciousness inhabiting it...

How could we move mountains if there was no consciousness to respond to our request?

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
The earth also takes life...kills...it doesn't mean to! We will endlessly talk at cross purposes. What is sacred is beyond matter.

Humans... most murderous organism I know of. And we're sacred ...

The body is a vehicle, consciousness resides in it. The body needs food, so it walks upon the earth, generally mucking around! It mucks around because it is in a confused state...killing and loving! After a bit this consciousness wonders, "What am I doing here?" One starts to realise that consciousness is not the body, and that its nature is pure, it always has been, we just have to wash some of that muck off!!!

[another bob]

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
Our problem is that we believe phenomena to be real.

Greetings, Friend!

That is not our problem. Phenomena are just props for this human experience we're here for. Our problem (hindrance) is that we like some phenomena but dislike others, and so get stuck in grasping and avoidance strategies which complicate and dim our appreciation for creation.

Blessings!