Taliban Paid to keep the US in Afghanistan...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Right when everyone thought it was time for the NATO troops to start pulling out of Afghanistan...

Pakistan Taliban warns of retaliation

Al Jazeera has obtained exclusive footage that appears to show the group vowing revenge for Osama bin Laden's death.

In the exclusive footage, obtained by Kamal Hyder, Al Jazeera's correspondent in Islamabad, the group is shown vowing revenge for the al-Qaeda leader's death.

The message, from a man called Umar Khalid, said the group would "take revenge" for Osama's killing, saying that Pakistan and the US's intelligence agencies were now on its "hit list".

He added that bin Laden's influence was still strong despite his death.

"Osama bin Laden has given us the ideology of Islam and Jihad ... by his death we are not scattered ... but it has given us more strength to continue his mission," he said.

"It took the Americans 11 years to kill Osama but for us it is easy, we will take our revenge in less than a few months."

Khalid and his men are now hiding in the mountains, and appear to be well-armed with assault rifles and other weapons. They are also shown with a laptop and a radio.

The group use motorcycles and a station wagon, camouflaged under several inches of mud, to move around...link

If Taliban really wanted everyone to leave, they would lay down their weapons...

The Taliban in Afghanistan want to work with the government, but now a branch of Taliban in Pakistan want to battle...

why not just run power lines down the border to create a bug zapper if anyone crosses between the underground lines and the above ground lines...

bzzapp!!!

problem solved...

who would benefit from this war continuing?

[corson]

hi Rocky_Shorz, great thread. in my opinion, one would have to believe that obl was just killed. which i don't. i think this may have disinfo., and false flag connotations written all over it. another way for 'terrorists' to come and get us. another boogie man. i guess we'll see if anything happens.
regards, corson

[Shezbeth]

I agree Corson. Before, OBL served as the boogeyman with a face. But NOW, the boogeyman has NO face, and could be ANYONE. THAT is, IMO, the purpose and agenda we are seeing. The PTB have brought the fear of terrorism to a threshold up to this point, and now they can point the finger at anyone and perpetuate that fear. Through manipulation of that fear, that Problem Reaction Solution methodology, there is little that can stop them.

[Rocky_Shorz]

well that 7.0 earthquake in Southern Pakistan was right between the Air Strip the US uses in Pakistan and Omar's location...

nothing unusual about that is there?

[corson]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
well that 7.0 earthquake in Southern Pakistan was right between the Air Strip the US uses in Pakistan and Omar's location...

nothing unusual about that is there?

in my opinion, no. it could very well be our own gvt producing such things. have to see more definitive proof myself. but, again, ya just never know what the truth is.
regards, corson

[Rocky_Shorz]

I opened this one in Conspiracy for a reason, let's hear what you are thinking...

how much proof would you need that someone is trying to extend the war, but why Omar?

[thunder24]

Eurasia has the most strategic untapped resources in the world. Enough oil in turkmenistan and uzbecistan to make saudia arabia look like a fill up station. Enough gold in Uzbekistan to make south Africa look like a branch bank. the water resources in tjakistan offer the availabilty to open a Tenn. Valley Authority type operation to furnish power for the enitirty of the EuroAsian area. --my history friend says this.

They are staying in this area to keep control of resources. Nothing to do with Taliban, AlQaeda, osama in my opinion. all to do with the trans-afghanistan pipeline running from uzbekistan through afghanastan, southwestern border of pakistan to baluckistan province. Drugs, Resources, and control.


Tax payers are getting the bill, but the resources are going to China. Parallel pipeline of natural gas going to India, to powerhouse that Enron built in India. Major players chevron, delta oil of saudia arabia own oil rights, Enron own natural gas rights.

Herion slowed down until we showed up over their. but I think helmond province is controlled by british. ---this is my friend the history buffs opinion
peace
anyone wants to understand the importance of the area, look at The Grand Chess Board by Z. Brizenski

About pipeline, look at Forbidden truth by brisard and dasquie

[corson]

i believe that someone is trying to extend the war, but not a man named umar. at this point all my fingers point to u.s. gvt. and sorry, didn't notice the forum sanctuary that you opened this thread in. most times, i pop in because i'm interested in the title. yours was thought provoking. your in-quoted pakistan/taliban warning just seems like another attempt from msm to start pointing the finger at anybody but who it should be pointed at. of course, this is just my opinion. but i believe that thunder24 hit the nail on the head as to why anybody is over there in the first place. if obl died 11 years ago, which many people do believe, then this media clip is not true. again, msm will point you in the wrong direction ALL the time. that's where i'm at with this.
regards, corson

[Rocky_Shorz]

so since Al Queda is pretty much done, now they are creating a Taliban boogie man to go after?

It is like Hamas going Moderate so a new "evil" appeared in Gaza to keep the war going...

[corson]

why not? and the hamas? well, perhaps they will find their own new boogie man to keep the eyes of the world off of them and focused somewhere else... funny thing war, and msm war, and government intervention war, and i could go on forever. somebody always has to take the fall. and i have yet to see it be the parties responsible. i wonder what would happen if one day, the mainstream public just stood up and said "feck off" we will NOT purchase your lies any longer. what would happen then? might be an interesting study to perform.
regards, corson

[Rocky_Shorz]

we are already doing it...

While Salafists (Muslims who follow a literal interpretation of the Koran) have been in the Gaza Strip since at least the 1970s, Salafi-Jihadists (those who advocate violence against non-Muslims) date back only to about 2002.

Often described as pro al-Qaeda, they champion a similar view of a world-wide Caliphate.

In Gaza, the groups have grown in number as a reaction against what they see as the excessively moderate positions of Hamas, the Islamic Resistance movement, which rules the strip...link

[thunder24]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
we are already doing it...

While Salafists (Muslims who follow a literal interpretation of the Koran) have been in the Gaza Strip since at least the 1970s, Salafi-Jihadists (those who advocate violence against non-Muslims) date back only to about 2002.

Often described as pro al-Qaeda, they champion a similar view of a world-wide Caliphate.

In Gaza, the groups have grown in number as a reaction against what they see as the excessively moderate positions of Hamas, the Islamic Resistance movement, which rules the strip...link

That was an interesting story on the link. IMO It seems to be that their are factions of our government and they aren't always working together. We setup and support terriorist groups, dictators, and the like, while then doing business with these groups and people. Then when we need them they are the fall guy, giving US reason to go in. So which faction did what? There is good information out there on the FBI being in actuallity mafiosos. So if it applies in house, surely it would apply across the pond.

I also believe that part of the plans is to keep the whole world on edge and controlled through their Religions. To play on the minds of the naive and wild beasts in cages mentality, show a little wisdom/hypnosis and bam send them on a suicide run. However you must consider the history of the vietnam war... We had soldiers in two different uniforms shooting rubber bullets at each other, making the villagers think it was real, they torched the villiages, and then both sides went back to camp for grub. Look up Ed Landsdale. It could all be started by confussing the people.

Why Omar? I would have to assume, CIA payed and/or playing to his religious beliefs by his handlers. This is where my thoughts went.
peace

[Lord Sidious]

You might be interested to find that this is NOT the original taliban.
First off, talib means student, taliban is a group of students.
How many of them are that age that you see?
The orginal taliban either never made it into power or didn't last long before being ''taken over'' by other elements.
And they came into existence first off, because of the warlords that the communists, oops, I mean the west, are now propping up.
They were taking women for their own pleasure and killing/dumping them when they finished.
One of the original taliban was indeed a student who executed the warlord who raped his sister.

[thunder24]

With all conspiracy talk, and who did what, and who's controlling who, one must always remember, that people have connections to groups/agencies/beliefs, that they may not even be aware of. And alot of these groups just rename themselves and move on, Same group, same gameplan, just tweek the dash pots a little to make the public see something different, and your right back in business.

Dark Lord,
If what you say is true, then it doesn't surprise me. How many organizations through history were infiltrated by another covert group, and then the covert group takes over the hierarchy and name of the the organization they infiltrated. Or a group takes the name over of some defunct group
Beyond resources and religions, I would like to know what stargates, vortexes, artifacts are in this region that would cause a continual western presence in the mideast and Eurasia.

Levels and degrees of dimensional realities haveing there own and interconnected reasons for anything to happen.
peace

[thunder24]

I just found this one. Not really sure how he compares to Omar, but this guy is being called head now that Osama bin Dead. Not sure if this is a faction or division of the other, or operating independantly, or if this is the alphabet boy's new patsy. what do ya'll think?

Saif al-Adel, 59, is known as the Sword of Islam and fought Russians in Afghanistan
British Transport Police to be given right to carry weapons on capital's trains and stations

Osama Bin Laden's replacement as leader of Al-Qaeda is planning a major terrorist attack on London, ordering his followers to 'crush' the city.
Soon after being officially appointed caretaker chief of the terrorist group, Saif al-Adel vowed to avenge the death of his former boss.
'Our new leader has asked for a big plan for London,' Taliban spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan said. 'He believes the UK is the backbone of Europe and must be crushed.'

Read more:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ens-death.html

peace

[Cidersomerset]

Hi All Totally agree, the alternative would be setting up the CIA terrorist wing in somalia even more warlike than Afghanistan remember the 'Black Hawk down' fiasco with no sellable natural resources for 'Clandestine projects' no
point going there unless they had no choice.......Far better staying in Afghanistan where 'Cia DA' began from the Mujahadeen who were our allies fighting the soviets under Bin Laden among others in the eighties. So the Taliban direct decendents
of those freedom fighters are happy to work for ' cia da' directly or indirectly and although the country is kept in poverty its assets to Cia are poppy fields in the north and a fortunate lithiam find worth billions, and so the game goes on..........Steve