Posted by Risk Assessment
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@ Nanoo Nanoo .. Hi and thanks for your response. You have given me much food with what you have said so I will attempt to deal with certain aspects of what you present in as methodical an approach as I can!
Posted by Nanoo Nanoo
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Obviously there is a lot a steak when one subscribes to the totality of following a false Guru and many there are of those.
Posted by Nanoo Nanoo
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this does not subscribe you to follow her and dedicate your life to being in the harem. If it did then id be walking in the opposite direction.,
Perhaps it's the case I have the wrong angle on what you've said here but I cannot help but to detect a level of contradiction in what you have said with these two statements. With what you suggest about there being no requirement to follow her words you are at the same time claiming with apparently open arms and no visible challenge from what I can detect that she is not a false Guru and you also lay the subtleties that suggest you are following her word or in the least accepting it as some form of guidance/fact or as you put it with your own words - you are 'resonating' with her. Most people of an intelligible disposition would conclude this to be a shepherd/flock scenario given one is drawing substance with confounded belief that is thought to be applicable for the use and benefit of their own life-path - which amounts to nothing more than a teacher/pupil or leader/follower situation when you break things right down This polar situation is a situation that penetrates most levels of communication and understandings in society so you cannot ignore or sidestep away from the implications that such a ubiquitous trend has in this debate.
You have missed the point. I resonate with her message. Its the message she delivers, nothing more. She does not claim to be a guru or does she want you to follow her , she says that quite plainly, Follow your own wisdom .. i cant explain it any clearer than that 
Posted by Nanoo Nanoo
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If someone has a gift of lets say Healing with the hands, someone talented at miraculously being able to heal the sick. Would it be a sin to charge for this service ?
Well sin wouldn't be my choice of word here but as almost everything negative can be deduced to such then my answer would be yes. Why? ..money is the root of much evil. I don't use bank accounts for various ethical reasons so I am excluded from the ability to obtain such information that is sold at a financial cost. Also, besides myself, there would be many others exempt from such an ability to purchase this information.. those without internet, computers etc. Set that aside for a minute, MP3s are nothing more than a virtual product, they are not physical products. It's only code. The same kind of stuff that websites and website content are built using. Hence, to charge for a virtual audio product containing information that already exists for free on her website (so claimed) is merely a taxation on the lazy. If it is such that Inelia wishes to do good then perhaps seeking an alternative income to support her efforts would help towards numbing the concerns of those who believe (as Amer stated) that the information she is relaying is information we all have the free and divine right to know without economic tie-ins.
With regards to what Amer stated..
Posted by Amer
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you do not charge money for the impartment of your wisdom that comes directly from the divine. It is not yours to sell. Period. She has in as many words said that she is a vessel for higher powers- she is selling what has been divinely given.
This just echoes my sentiments exactly.
I completely agree with you , you should both go and learn it for your selves for free , come back in 20 years when you have stumbled across the wisdom that is condenced in nelias message and free web site, and show us how .. But dont you dare charge for the journey and spiritual messages ok ! aah
Ok enough with the jokes. Some people dont like that divine teaching is sold or at least made sustainable , mind you there are more important things to protest that are sold that have no value..
Posted by Nanoo Nanoo
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would that make the healer any less capable of healing because he or she decided to make it sustainable ?
No. Of course not. Just makes Inelia economically better off.
Posted by Nanoo Nanoo
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I watched the video a few times and i enjoyed the message. I have no questions regarding it because i understand with my ability to read and understand. I have confidense in that i dont want to waste time with red tape. its a matter of taking a message on face value. If it resonates and makes a difference then you have achieved another level of understanding. This level of understanding is the desired goal.
Well in that case, as you feel no need to cross-examine the testimony given yourself.. perhaps you can already answer the question I put that asks how it is she is knowing of the fact that she 'entered' her body 30mins before birth - the same body that she claims on her website to be something that manifests from the already present self - a statement I made in my first post which has seemingly gone without challenge, answer or elaboration to. Such a statement would ring alarm bells and beg the same question from anyone with an inquisitive and calculative mind. To dismiss such practice of inquisition is something found common in those deemed gullible.
My view on this is simple , her claims mean nothing to me.. her history , the events she claims to have been part of .. in order to prove these as a skeptic , id have to be there and see it for my own eyes.. what a waste of time that is .. I dont need to see it .. All that resonates with me .. and if you look over my posts to before her video came out, i was sprouting the same message.. so when i heard what she was saying it resonated with me .. that means to me that someone else feels the same way i do and that made me feel validated. This in turn gives ME power to continue on MY quest sepperately from Inelia or without having to subscribe to her or give her money .. She gave this information freely and it made a positive effect on my life. I like Inelias " MESSAGE " she delivers a MESSAGE FREELY and yet we stand and stare at the dirt on the glass as opposed to the view through the window...
Posted by Nanoo Nanoo
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IMO Skepticism is its own reward and one posessed by people who lack confidense in their own abilities and in turn want to be lead.
Sorry but I don't agree with that opinion and it reeks of gullibility.
I must apologise , i did sprinkle some pepper in that remark, but i believe Skeptics like Pesimists are the lead weights around the ankles of progress. I researched about some retired people in Texas that wanted to start their own Skeptic/ Pesimists Club.. but it dosent exist because they all thought it wouldnt work.. Every Skeptic i have ever met has a sadness in their heart of a lack of confidense.. they have been hurt .. this is why they need PROOF of everything .. so they dont have to have Faith.. that to me is a sad existance and i say that with respect but if you want honesty thats it.. Skeptics expect perfection and my dear friend it dosent exist except for in your own soul
Posted by Nanoo Nanoo
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Tell me .. if you listen to or read a body of work and find faults in it , all be it minor .. should the weight of that body of work be judged on these minor faults ? or should the positive parts of it be kept and used ? My question is why do people concentrate on the lowest common denominator and then expect the maximum positive effect ? This perplexes me...
Well first up, there is the perception angle of the individual. They obviously appear less minor to you than to myself for reasons that are obvious. Personally I think these 'faults' or, as I like to call them - unanswered questions, are quite necessary in regards to processing, understanding and believing the claims being laid down. If you had no concept of what a square was or looked like and someone went to great pains to convince you that it was a round-shaped object, without further scrutiny or cross-examination or research conducted elsewhere you would eventually and quite possibly easily be convinced of the view they were conveying to you and accept that as solid fact and truth. This we see with prominence in society with religion and so forth and for the simple reason being that people as a collective and even on an individual basis are susceptible to mis-judgement based on things that they perceive to be resonating with them in some way.
Posted by Nanoo Nanoo
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Hugs
again, I'm not wishing to offend anyone here. Just merely conveying my understandings and concerns. Inelia does indeed seem like a very nice person and not the type of person I would cross off my birthday party invite list with any given haste. What she gives in the interview is open to interpretation from more angles than one and with this approach I cannot help but to find contradiction and questionable detail. It's unfortunate that there is little given from which I'm capable to substantiate any concrete conclusions upon however I draw some good from the message given as a whole. If what she says resonates with some people then so be it and if it aids as a tool for people and their own life path then that can only be a good thing and I can't lay argument to that. I can argue that not to be on the same path as other people in regards to this does not necessarily denote negativity on my behalf and as far as my personal standpoint goes and that of others, asking for a greater level of substance and convincing is nothing but fair in form and a legitimate request and I invite and hope that Inelia can present more to convince me further in respects to what she talks about.
Understood, i guess where we differ is that I see something for the good in it , i take that good and disguard what has no use to me. I have no interest in knowing or validating her experiences, it wont make one iota of a difference to the MESSAGE , Wanting to validate the PERSON is what people do when they want to follow a Guru.. they want to put their faith in the PERSON as opposed to the MESSAGE. This happened with Christ too .. He said Do not follow me but follow the words of my wisdom. Yet people wanted proof , they wanted to see miracles and then they crucified him because he was painted a heretic .. great .. Can we learn from this huge mistake in humanities ways and move forward with the MESSAGE instead of crucifying the messenger ?
Hugs back
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