Obama's Birth Certificate Is A Major Problem

[Snowbird]

We here in the United States have discovered that our President Barack Obama was allegedly born in another country. This "birther" issue has been raging since before Obama was elected President. However, until very recently, none of us in the public arena have been privy to the reasons that the "birthers" have consistently raised their voices.

Dr. Jerome Corsi has just released a book, Where's the Birth Certificate? The Case That Barack Obama Is Not Eligible To Be President, that he wrote that minutely details what this issue is about and what it entails and the Constitutional laws that surround this issue. I am currently reading it and studying it. I'm not even half way through this book and I can honestly say that we in this country have a much larger problem here than we can imagine. This is a very complicated issue.

I have discovered, and have linked just a few sites below, that n-o-b-o-d-y vets or investigates presidential candidates. There is no one responsible for even viewing birth certificates. And, this is the very reason that we are in this situation. And because of this, team-Obama have been able to circumvent the Constitution of our country up until the birthers started to deeply investigate.

This issue will disappear in a flash once Barack Obama displays a valid and legal birth certificate from anywhere within the United States. That's all it would take for this to go away. Why doesn't he do that? Personally? I believe that it is because he doesn't have one.

This is a small section from Corsi's book, The Constitution specifies in Article 2, Section 1, that: "No Person except a natural-born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Consitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

By specifying natural-born citizen, the Constitution establishes a higher eligibility threshold for president than mere U.S. citizenship. One can be a citizen of the United States and yet not be a natural-born citizen under Article 2, Section 1. A good example is Arnold Schwarzenegger....a naturalized American citizen, but not a natural-born citizen,....

At this point in time, I am not even sure if Obama is a naturalized American citizen. He may very well be a man without a country.




Save Our Rights

Vetting Candidates

A number of people have contacted their State Elections boards or State Secretaries of State to find out if candidates are vetted for eligibility for the office of the president, and how they are vetted.

The responses have been that the states do not verify the qualifications of the candidates.

Illinois

In the primary the presidential candidates files petitions. For the general election the president & vice president is chosen at the convention. We do not check for anything. It is up to someone to file an objection against a candidate. On our website under voting and elections in the center column you can find the 2008 presidential guide.

Kay Walker

http://saveourrights.wikia.com/wiki/Vetting_Candidates

Natural Born Citizen - A Place to Ask Questions and Get the Right Answers

http://puzo1.wordpress.com/2011/03/3...gibility-laws/

Federal election Commission

http://www.fec.gov/index.shtml

[AngelMusikal]

I believe this still can turn out to be a major issue for Obama's campaign if it's uncovered to the public that the certificate that he presented was badly Photoshopped.

[witchy1]

There is no one responsible for even viewing birth certificates. And, this is the very reason that we are in this situation.

You dont think that perhaps the "candidate" himself or herself is responsible for ensuring that he or she meets eligibility criteria?

One would think that integrity transparency and honesty were some of the basic criteria needed before committing to such a role.

He himself is responsible - no-one else.

(At minimum he has an entire team working on his behalf. Im sure his legal / constitutional counsel would have provided the criteria for the vetting process.)

ADDIT: Ignorance of the law cannot be used as a defense for not abiding by it. (or something like that)
Would you apply for a job that you did not have the legal right to undertake. What if you then got it.
It happens - many cases of Doctors, Nurses etc........ what happens to them when they get caught? There is no difference here. He is personally culpable

[loveandgratitude]

The Three Stooges go to Washington: Part 3

Barack Hussein Obama



Parts one and two of “The Three Stooges go to Washington” appeared in the June and July, 2008 editions of The IO where the genealogical roots and life of then “presumptive Republican nominee” Sen. John McCain was investigated.

Our second stooge is Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, the Democrat nominee for president. Our researcher Don Nicoloff has discovered so many anomalies, discrepencies, lies, obfuscations and inconsistencies with the “official” Obama story that no one—probably not even Obama himself—can truly claim to know who he really is or where he came from.


PARTS l & PARTS 2 can be found - http://directlightproductions.com/ Under Articles - THREE STOOGES GO TO WASHINGTON

http://directlightproductions.com/

[ViralSpiral]

from the other thread:

Posted by Snowbird (here)

Just a side note......I supported Obama and was very happy that he was elected. I did this with anticipation that his actions as President would help to neutralize the horrific damage of the Bush regime. How wrong can one be? My error.

My 5 Zimbabwean cents.....

Snowbird, I do appreciate that you would like to see things "right" however, I am of the opinion that this whole debacle is another divide/conquer mechanism set out (and up) a long time ago with people reacting exactly as planned. Surely one can now see that it matters not who is in government?
A vitriol Trump-et came on stage, just in time to show off his well manicured coiff, then slinked off.



looooooooooool loveandgratitude!!!

[REILLY]

anyone interested should check out freemantv.com for his latest presentation. I have not the technology, or else I would post a link. I make this recommendation for all, but especially for loveandgratitude and humble janitor.

[Snowbird]

Posted by witchy1 (here)

There is no one responsible for even viewing birth certificates. And, this is the very reason that we are in this situation.

You dont think that perhaps the "candidate" himself or herself is responsible for ensuring that he or she meets eligibility criteria?

One would think that integrity transparency and honesty were some of the basic criteria needed before committing to such a role.

He himself is responsible - no-one else.

(At minimum he has an entire team working on his behalf. Im sure his legal / constitutional counsel would have provided the criteria for the vetting process.)

ADDIT: Ignorance of the law cannot be used as a defense for not abiding by it. (or something like that)
Would you apply for a job that you did not have the legal right to undertake. What if you then got it.
It happens - many cases of Doctors, Nurses etc........ what happens to them when they get caught? There is no difference here. He is personally culpable

Your statement above in blue, witchy1, will cause the demolitionists to laugh out loud.

I agree that Obama is personally culpable, but so are the staff members who are closest to him who know about his background and his alleged lack of Constitutional qualifications. There are also many many staff members who have no idea that he is, IMO, not a natural-born citizen. Corsi's book has numerous articles and audio quotes from Kenyan governmental figures and Kenyan citizens who openly state as statements of fact, that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. I have posted below, an article that I just now found on the web (there are many) that has copied sections from an African source article that has been blocked. No surprise.


Barack Obama born in Kenya, API, Obama born in Mombasa, African Press International, We can now confirm that Mr Barack Hussein Obama, the US President-Elect was born in Mombasa, Kenya

API, African Press International, has a new article up stating they are confirming Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya. I am neither confirming or denying the contents of this story as written. However, I am certain that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. Here are some exerpts:

“Charmed his way to the Presidency: API asks Barack Obama born in Mombasa to a Kenyan National to come clean on the citizenship issue.
Posted by africanpress on November 6, 2008..."

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/20...mombasa-kenya/

[Snowbird]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
anyone interested should check out freemantv.com for his latest presentation. I have not the technology, or else I would post a link. I make this recommendation for all, but especially for loveandgratitude and humble janitor.

PurpleLama, I really appreciate Freeman's perspectives. He digs deeply. I have posted his page below that discusses this issue and I agree with him. Good choice.

Ordo Ab Chao - Freeman's Predictions

They want you to spread fear and hatred. This was an act to create division on many levels. Some people are not able to accept that their government is insidious or the realization that they have no security. Screaming at these people, calling them derogatory names, only exacerbates the situation. This leaves people nowhere to turn except killing one another.

http://www.freemantv.com/

[Rocky_Shorz]

everything based off 2008...

do you have anything a little more current or realistic to talk about?

[nearing]

The Consitution says that a natural born OR a citizen can be President, no?

So even if he was born out of the country, if he was born to an American mother, which he was, he can be President.

I do not see the controversy.

[T Smith]

Posted by nearing (here)
The Consitution says that a natural born OR a citizen can be President, no?

So even if he was born out of the country, if he was born to an American mother, which he was, he can be President.

I do not see the controversy.

This is incorrect. You must be a natural-born citizen to become POTUS.

[nearing]

Posted by T Smith (here)

Posted by nearing (here)
The Consitution says that a natural born OR a citizen can be President, no?

So even if he was born out of the country, if he was born to an American mother, which he was, he can be President.

I do not see the controversy.

This is incorrect. You must be a natural-born citizen to become POTUS.

Not according to the OP.

This is a small section from Corsi's book, The Constitution specifies in Article 2, Section 1, that: "No Person except a natural-born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Consitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

[GCS1103]

Snowbird-

You have it absolutely right, constitutionally. When the Constitution was written a substantial number of citizens were immigrants, so rather than exclude a sizable portion of the population they had the exception for eligibility if you were a citizen "at the time of the adoption of the Constitution." That has long since expired and now one must be a natural born citizen only to be eligible for President. This is the reason for the "birther issue". If Obama was born anywhere else, he would not be eligible to be President, plain and simple. (Ironically, the flip side of this requirement is the so-called "anchor baby" controversy where, a child in transit can be born here and with no other ties to this country is considered a natural born citizen, enabling it's immigrant parents to establish a connection to this country - hence the term "anchor baby")

The requirement for President is stricter than for members of Congress. The Founders obviously intended there to be a higher standard for the office of President, i.e. natural born citizen only. Naturalized citizens are eligible to be Representatives or Senators after seven years and nine years of citizenship respectively.

I am not commenting on whether Obama is, or is not a citizen, just on the constitutional issue. It is irrelevant if his mother was an American, if he was born outside of the country. The issue has nothing to do with his mother. Please no angry PM's to me. I had nothing to do with the drafting of our Constitution.

[corson]

Posted by GCS1103 (here)
Snowbird-

You have it absolutely right, constitutionally. When the Constitution was written a substantial number of citizens were immigrants, so rather than exclude a sizable portion of the population they had the exception for eligibility if you were a citizen "at the time of the adoption of the Constitution." That has long since expired and now one must be a natural born citizen only to be eligible for President. This is the reason for the "birther issue". If Obama was born anywhere else, he would not be eligible to be President, plain and simple. (Ironically, the flip side of this requirement is the so-called "anchor baby" controversy where, a child in transit can be born here and with no other ties to this country is considered a natural born citizen, enabling it's immigrant parents to establish a connection to this country - hence the term "anchor baby")

The requirement for President is stricter than for members of Congress. The Founders obviously intended there to be a higher standard for the office of President, i.e. natural born citizen only. Naturalized citizens are eligible to be Representatives or Senators after seven years and nine years of citizenship respectively.

I am not commenting on whether Obama is, or is not a citizen, just on the constitutional issue. It is irrelevant if his mother was an American, if he was born outside of the country. The issue has nothing to do with his mother. Please no angry PM's to me. I had nothing to do with the drafting of our Constitution.

this also includes being born on u.s. territory. such as on an american military base in another country, in an american embassy, or on any one of the number of american islands, such as guam etc. i do not believe that mombasa kenya is an american entitlement.
regards, corson

[GCS1103]

Posted by corson (here)

Posted by GCS1103 (here)
Snowbird-

You have it absolutely right, constitutionally. When the Constitution was written a substantial number of citizens were immigrants, so rather than exclude a sizable portion of the population they had the exception for eligibility if you were a citizen "at the time of the adoption of the Constitution." That has long since expired and now one must be a natural born citizen only to be eligible for President. This is the reason for the "birther issue". If Obama was born anywhere else, he would not be eligible to be President, plain and simple. (Ironically, the flip side of this requirement is the so-called "anchor baby" controversy where, a child in transit can be born here and with no other ties to this country is considered a natural born citizen, enabling it's immigrant parents to establish a connection to this country - hence the term "anchor baby")

The requirement for President is stricter than for members of Congress. The Founders obviously intended there to be a higher standard for the office of President, i.e. natural born citizen only. Naturalized citizens are eligible to be Representatives or Senators after seven years and nine years of citizenship respectively.

I am not commenting on whether Obama is, or is not a citizen, just on the constitutional issue. It is irrelevant if his mother was an American, if he was born outside of the country. The issue has nothing to do with his mother. Please no angry PM's to me. I had nothing to do with the drafting of our Constitution.

this also includes being born on u.s. territory. such as on an american military base in another country, in an american embassy, or on any one of the number of american islands, such as guam etc. i do not believe that mombasa kenya is an american entitlement.
regards, corson

Bingo.....

[Lefty Dave]

Greetings
The sadness here in USA is this....no matter what argument is put forward , regarding birth issue, the FED RES, Wall St, K Street, 1600 Penn Ave , stolen elections, 9/11 , BP Oil gusher, radiation fallout, police/court corruption, illegal laws passed, congressional malfeasance, gas/oil price fixing, misuse of DOD, .... and nobody responds ! Not the press,( our first line of defense), not the DOJ, not congress, not the people..! Remember "checks and balances"? A thing of the past !
Most EVERYONE knows these things didn't happen by accident...yet no one wants to do anything about it...so the madness just continues... and every week it is something else...
It is extremely heartbreaking to watch our country looted and corrupted from the inside. No words can express the sadness and dismay one feels.
Blessings

[Maia Gabrial]

Hey nearing,
Remember George Romney when he was running for president? His mother was in Mexico when she went into labor and had him there. This disqualified him. Must be born IN the country....

[Lefty Dave]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...426#post209426

This is also relevant ....the fact that it wasn't Kenya til '63......so how was his father born in Kenya, how could the birth cert be real ????

[Snowbird]

There exist many things in this life that I am not aware of and this is one of them...that is, until today.

Almost one year ago, this July 4, Lucas Daniel Smith sent every Congressperson the same letter with the same copy of Barack Obama's Kenyan birth certificate. When you open this link, at the bottom of the article, are Links 1 - 8 which are .pdfs of the letters that he sent out, the envelopes and the postal receipts are also shown.

The lower link that I have posted is a larger copy of the Kenyan birth certificate. It's simply easier to read.

As I can't really imagine someone faking this type of grand effort, I can't imagine that this is not the truth. Of course, since we did not hear about this from the mainstream media, it can't possibly be true.


Exclusive: Lucas Daniel Smith speaks with The Post & Email

DOCUMENT ALLEGEDLY OBTAINED IN KENYA SENT TO EVERY MEMBER OF CONGRESS


The Lucas Daniel Smith 4th of July (2010) Letter to Congress is intended to serve as an official record of having informed all of Congress, each member, of Barack Obama’s Kenyan birth and the existence of the 2009 certified copy of Barack Obama’s 1961 Coast Province General Hospital Mombasa, British Protectorate of Kenya, birth record. The letter also directs their attention to a document that they themselves, i.e., US Congress, published in the 1990s which questioned the eligibility of individuals born abroad, of TWO US CITIZEN PARENTS, to hold the Office of President of the United States of America.

(a portion of one of the letters to Congress from Lucas Daniel Smith, from Link 1)

Upon my arrival in Nairobi I was bombarded with questions in English on my feelings and
opinions of a Kenyan governing the United States of America.

The first several times I responded in saying that not enough time had elapsed since Barack
Obama's appointment as President of the USA.I went on to say that I'd have to hold my official
opinion until at least January 2010.A year in Office might be sufficient for me to judge his
ability to govern the USA.

Natuarally I thought that by "Kenyan" they were referring to Barack Obama’s blood, being that
his father Barack Obama Sr was a native of Kenya.After a day and a half of my being in
Nairobi I learned that they were literally referring to President Barack Obama Jr. as being born in
Kenya, a native of Kenya.

Now I started asking questions; did his father's Kenyan blood somehow entitle Barack Jr to be
the equivalent of a native Kenyan?No, not all, I was to find out.They were referring to Barack
Obama Jr's physical birth on Kenyan soil.

Kenyans were amused at how gullible Americans could be when it came to obvious things like the fact that Kenyans overtly admit to Barack Jr's Kenyan birth, yet the Americans continue to believe that they know better.

I delved further and found that a birth certificate was on file at Coast Province General Hospital
in Mombasa.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/09/...he-post-email/

Larger copy of the Kenyan birth certificate

http://www.newworldorderwar.com/bara...h-certificate/

[Etherios]

Posted by nearing (here)

Posted by T Smith (here)

Posted by nearing (here)
The Consitution says that a natural born OR a citizen can be President, no?

So even if he was born out of the country, if he was born to an American mother, which he was, he can be President.

I do not see the controversy.

This is incorrect. You must be a natural-born citizen to become POTUS.

Not according to the OP.

This is a small section from Corsi's book, The Constitution specifies in Article 2, Section 1, that: "No Person except a natural-born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Consitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

So i think they mean that at the time when the constitution was done ... there were many american citizens that were not natural born... SO i dont think a mexican that get us citizenship can run for president nowdays... right?