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    man!! thanks for the reminder. I bought the apple cider vinegar. It smells like stinky feet that dad has =o=...but it tasted alright. So that was a relief....haha~

    I'll put the bi-carb as a mask on the face!

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    Sounds like we have the same problem.

    I've tried everything... I feel your pain.

    I have 2 boxes of accutane unopened because I fear the side effects.

    Apple Cider works well for me. It is not the cure all but I noticed a dramatic difference. Enough to leave the accutane wrapped up and sealed

    Here is my recepie:

    1 large watter bottle ( mine is 900ml )
    2 tablespoons Apple Cider vinegar (organic with "Mother")
    1 tablespoon of organic Honey
    2 drops of Peppermint essential oil (Mentha X Peperita)

    Add all ingredients together and fill it up with filtered water. Drink it through out the day.
    Takes about 10-15min for the honey to dilute into the water.

    It is my everyday tonic and it made wonders on my skin.

    Also, go easy on your skin. Simple wash and moistiruze. Don't scrub and use clean face towels to pat dry. Change your pillow case at least once a week.

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    I swear by apple cider vinegar. Make sure you get organic. I also use Himalayan crystal salt to balance ph. I can't remember the last time I was sick.

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    There's something that a lot of people swear by and that's OCM - The Oil Cleansing Method. I know it sounds crazy to put oil on your face but oil actually dissolves oil. One of the most basic principals of chemistry is that 'like dissolves like'.

    I myself have been doing this method for the past 3 weeks and can vouch for it's effectiveness, I don't have bad acne as such just some congestion that I'm looking to take care of. The best thing about this is that it's all natural where as the products you buy from the store contain ingredients that strip the good oils from your face leaving you dry and forcing your skin to over-compensate which then makes you more oily.

    If you decide to give this method a shot I would suggest getting organic natural ingredients from a health store, or otherwise from online.
    • Cold Pressed/Organic Castor Oil (not pharmacy brand)
    • Pure organic Jojoba oil
    • A bunch of washable face towels (cheap from supermarket)

    Do a bit of research and see what you think, you can find plenty of information on various forums simply by using google search.

    This is a good one to get you started. http://www.theoilcleansingmethod.com/

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    As a sufferer myself when I was younger, lets share some first hand experiences that work

    1- take zero antibiotics, they simply screw your digestive system and suppress the problem
    2- drink WATER, MORE WATER AND THEN LOTS MORE WATER !!!!
    3- Remove all sugar/ salt/ fat from your diet especially commercially prepared foods (I mean poison!)
    4- Start taking colloidal silver internally and use topically on your skin
    5- Keep hands and nails very clean and don't touch your affected skin
    6- Do NOT use any harsh chemicals on your skin, it will induce inflamation and redness and remove the natural dermal protection
    7- Use zero topical cream, steroids, etc . Again it will damge the dermal layer
    8- Do NOT wash face repeatedly. It breaks down the natural dermal layer and protection
    9- Expose your affected skin to sunlight frequently, but at a safe level for your skin type
    10 MOST IMPORTANT! Be happy, your internal state affects your external state.

    If you all this in a commited way, I can almost guarantee a major improvement in a month, plus your life and body will be in better shape generally. I have seen a total reduction in acne vulgaris ( the pussy boils type) in a very short time.

    If you have already been on steroid creams. Antibiotics or other phramas, your going to need rebalancing internally before any of this. To re-establish gut flora, take acidophilus supplement or take a pure natural bio yoghurt as a prelude to the natural treatments.

    C/S is expensive, so I recommend you make your own. Plenty of details on the net. Come back for more details if required.

    Remember the skin is your largest and most important organ. It is also an organ of elimination, it is in a state of purging and cleansing. It is also very sensitive to your emotional state. Medical treatments don't understand any of this and treat only on the symptom level and suppress the problem. So again the most important point is BE HAPPY!

    If you hgave emotional/ psychological issues/ relational issues, face them now and deal with them. We are a holistic being, everything matters and affects everything else in our lives. Nothing lives in a private box.
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    When I was much younger I had a bout with nasty acne, the type like that are cysts, and they hurt and seemed to throb, it was so bad. Went to a top skin specialist and they prescribed a very high Vitamin A supplement (so high, I had to get a prescription for it). So that may be another option. It worked for me. Another option is a topical Vitamin A cream 'RetinA', don't know if they make it anymore. I'm talking about 30 years ago.

    Just my two cents.

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    I'm thinking it is Candida,too, it nearly always is in adulthood. A Candida diet and a product called Agrisept L will clear it up.

    I make a test run with the people I work with who have this issue , which is a low carb diet for ten days and cinnamon supplements four times a day. No carb means no sugar, including fruits, no breads or starches. That helps one to identify if its yeast related. If that helps I add in the Agrisept L and ask them to change their dietary habits. They typically don't experience it again unless they fall back into their same old sugar/starch habits.


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    Man! THankyou very much you guys!!! and also WING thankyou for reminding me about solving the cause it important!! yes~!

    em...My hair is not dandruffy...but I do have to wash my hair everyday to get the oil off...

    OK, it has come to me that I should change my diet!!!!!! less sugar, plain diet! man....I CAN DO IT!!!

    apple cider vinegar! I'm heading to the stores now.....

    THANKYOU THANKYOU THANKYOU !!!

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    An important thing when using bases and acids, like vinegar. Vinegar or low acids are best topical, and base electrical water or "alkaline foods and liquids" are better on the inside of the body. Research Candida as well, this has come up with friends and fam, as they have thier own stuffs going on. Cheers, glad to help!

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    I know some have recommended Honey but if this a bacterial or fungal infection I would avoid the Honey like the plague. Both of those organisms LOVE sugar and will have a field day with honey. So not eat it nor put it on your skin.

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    Accutane is linked to causing depression and suicide and a 21 % decrease in frontal brain activity, so how's that for your typical standard medical solution. All the diet suggestions are great and apple cider vinegar is a great thing to take. Another herb you may want to consider is Neem. It is antibacterial and anti fungal. You can take it by capsule (find in health food store) and put topical Neem oil on face. It does'nt smell the best but if it would help it would be worth it.

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    Accutane is linked to causing depression and suicide and a 21 % decrease in frontal brain activity, so how's that for your typical standard medical solution. All the diet suggestions are great and apple cider vinegar is a great thing to take. Another herb you may want to consider is Neem. It is antibacterial and anti fungal. You can take it by capsule (find in health food store) and put topical Neem oil on face. It does'nt smell the best but if it would help it would be worth it.
    Good one!

    Another anti-fungal, yet natural product is Organic Virgin Coconut Oil, which is a great salve for wounds - they heal quickly. It absorbs fast and gives only a small amount of moisturizer if you don't over do it. It also gives a small amount of sun protection.

    You can take it internally as a preventative and remedy for many, many things. Yes, it is saturated but it is a medium-chain sat fat (and contains a FA only found in mother's milk), not long chain like the 'bad' fats. It actually helps in losing weight, a fat!

    Read 'the Coconut Oil Miracle" by Dr. Bruce Fife for reasons why EVERYONE should be using it. It is just so good for you!
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    Another herb you may want to consider is Neem. It is antibacterial and anti fungal. You can take it by capsule (find in health food store) and put topical Neem oil on face. It does'nt smell the best but if it would help it would be worth it.
    Neem is excellent, but if you have used the pure neem products you will know it smells medicinal and earthy, a bit like tea-tree . Unless you have a product that uses the active organic compound azadirachtin it's going to smell very strong. Neem, Colloidal Silver and ozonated water are my top 3 natural cures.

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    I know some have recommended Honey but if this a bacterial or fungal infection I would avoid the Honey like the plague. Both of those organisms LOVE sugar and will have a field day with honey. So not eat it nor put it on your skin.

    JMHO.
    I do not think honey on the skin is going to solve the cause of the problem in this case (as diet has to be addressed); however manuka honey is used topically, EVEN IN SOME HOSPITALS, to treat stubborn/chronic bacterial skin infections (this is fact).

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    man!! thanks for the reminder. I bought the apple cider vinegar. It smells like stinky feet that dad has =o=...but it tasted alright. So that was a relief....haha~

    I'll put the bi-carb as a mask on the face!
    Stinky feet could be the result of low zinc levels.

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    MMS should take care of it very well
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    yes mms1 works wonders...
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    I know some have recommended Honey but if this a bacterial or fungal infection I would avoid the Honey like the plague. Both of those organisms LOVE sugar and will have a field day with honey. So not eat it nor put it on your skin.

    JMHO.
    I do not think honey on the skin is going to solve the cause of the problem in this case (as diet has to be addressed); however manuka honey is used topically, EVEN IN SOME HOSPITALS, to treat stubborn/chronic bacterial skin infections (this is fact).[COLOR="red"]
    They may use it when they have identified the exact organism involved in the infection AND that particular bug is susceptible. This isn't the case with self treating cystic acne. I have personally seen people try to use honey (not sure if it was Manuka) on skin wounds and saw them go fulminant. Most bacteria EAT sugar (this is a fact).

    So if you can culture the bug causing your acne and KNOW that it is killed by Manauka honey - go for it. Otherwise, you should not put honey on an open skin sore.

    But it would be nice it they could isolate what is it in Manuka honey that kills bacteria and remove the glucose and just use that. But, Western medicine being what it is, I know there wouldn't be any money in that - so it won't happen. *sigh*
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    A really good anti fungal is Thieves Oil by young living. It kills everything , my daughter has a staph infection and its clearing up with just topical application of Thieves. When people get fungally nails it takes it out in a day or two. For topical use, you can put a few drops in rice or coconut milk and it works as well.

    Too harsh for face though. Elemi oil, or Franckincense oils (pricey, Elemi does the same for less) or lemon oil and lavendar used at the same time. Good for wrinkles too.

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    Check out notmilk.com!
    I cut dairy products from my diet and no longer suffer from hayfever, but also noticed other benefits including clearer skin.
    Here's what they say about acne.
    Acne occurs when steroids (androgens) stimulate the sebaceous glands within the skin's hair follicles. These glands then secrete an oily substance called sebum. When sebum, bacteria and dead skin cells build up on your skin, the pores become blocked, creating a zit.

    What do you expect? When teenagers combine their own surging hormones with dietary saturated animal fat, cholesterol, steroid hormones, dead white blood cells, and cow pus, they're gonna get zits. The good news: The cure is an easy one: NOTMILK!
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    I had very severe acne from age 16-21. Nothing worked. I was initially put on antibiotics by my doctor for over 2 years!!! My confidence was shot to bits and I almost became a recluse because I felt so self conscious and got stared at quite a lot when I went out. Roaccutane (isotretinoin) was eventually offered to me and I grabbed it with both hands and it worked. I haven't has a zit since and that was 19 years ago! It felt like a miracle to be finally cured from this horrible affliction. It is a very strong drug and can have some undesirable side effects but I'd do again in a heartbeat. Good luck with the natural remedies offered by my fellow Avalonians, it's worth a try. I was desperate and would have tried anything for a cure, even risking my health. It can cause depression, but it cured mine with the great results!

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    I want to add this one, acne is not a curable thing. I strongly think this comes from an imbalance inside you organs. And the skin IS the largest organ. It is connected directly to your intestines and then your intestines re very much connected to your brain. Your brain is heavily effected electrically by SUGARS. In fact a very smart person once told me that if you have a sugar rush you are likely to be accident prone. This is a clue. If you can eliminate processed sugars(or better sugar altogether) then you are likely to find the root to the problem. Not everyone is the same physically so a cure all is completely unlikely here. Also in my experience many suffer from this as an allergy to wheat and COW dairy. And then certain oils, IE Canola being the worst.

    So to put this in a short list,
    1 - Acne appears to be conditional
    2 - sugars, gluten and toxic oils are a possible culprit
    3 - bodies are different, so not all things that work, work for all and in the same way for each individual
    4 - MANY parasitical functioning organisms like SUGAR and damp un clean spaces, so the previous info on being a bit cleaner with your habits is good advice.

    my main point CUT OUT SUGAR, not easy either. so get on this right away, also tooth decay happens from the inside out, the capillary refill goes into your tooth's root and delivers the sugar. this speeds decay enormously. (Honey and agave are good substitutes as sweeteners)

    Feel free to study all these points as I am no doctor, however a few that I know gave me these tips.
    Why not now?

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    I know some have recommended Honey but if this a bacterial or fungal infection I would avoid the Honey like the plague. Both of those organisms LOVE sugar and will have a field day with honey. So not eat it nor put it on your skin.

    JMHO.
    I do not think honey on the skin is going to solve the cause of the problem in this case (as diet has to be addressed); however manuka honey is used topically, EVEN IN SOME HOSPITALS, to treat stubborn/chronic bacterial skin infections (this is fact).[COLOR="red"]
    They may use it when they have identified the exact organism involved in the infection AND that particular bug is susceptible. This isn't the case with self treating cystic acne. I have personally seen people try to use honey (not sure if it was Manuka) on skin wounds and saw them go fulminant. Most bacteria EAT sugar (this is a fact).

    So if you can culture the bug causing your acne and KNOW that it is killed by Manauka honey - go for it. Otherwise, you should not put honey on an open skin sore.

    But it would be nice it they could isolate what is it in Manuka honey that kills bacteria and remove the glucose and just use that. But, Western medicine being what it is, I know there wouldn't be any money in that - so it won't happen. *sigh*
    MANUKA honey is not something I would use on acne either (there are other topicals that would be far more effective and it's always good and often necessary to address diet) but it (Manuka .... not ordinary honey) is useful for minor skin wounds - the wound will heal much more quickly. It (Manuka honey) is an effective antimicrobial (this is fact).
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