DMT - The Spirit Molecule

[Muzz]

DMT - The Spirit Molecule

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ci...universe86.htm

[Martin]

This is a reminder for me: I have to continue reading his book.

Martin

[Ilie Pandia]

Really cool documentary

[Muzz]

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
Really cool documentary

Thanks mate

Hi martin which book are you talking about.

[Darla Ken Pearce]

There are no short cuts for enlightenment no matter how we might wish otherwise. Those great ones who tried to find it this way are no longer with us. Their lives were cut short after they got wings to fly and left us for other realms we know not where. Most died a most painful death like Terrence and even Dr. Joshua Stone, both brilliant both very gone. Many others followed their path and did not live to speak of it but the rumors remain. There are many ways to get there, this just isn't a very practical one.

[Eva2]

Posted by Darla Ken Jensen Pearce (here)
There are no short cuts for enlightenment no matter how we might wish otherwise. Those great ones who tried to find it this way are no longer with us. Their lives were cut short after they got wings to fly and left us for other realms we know not where. Most died a most painful death like Terrence and even Dr. Joshua Stone, both brilliant both very gone. Many others followed their path and did not live to speak of it but the rumors remain. There are many ways to get there, this just isn't a very practical one.

Got to disagree with this post as I can speak from personal experience with plant shamanism. There has been nothing to date to compare with what I have learned about myself using this. We all have our ways of tapping into that vast place within and this has been a very powerful "wake-up" for me and I credit it with how my life and perceptions have grown and changed. I've had my share of esoteric experiences prior to taking this route but (for me) this has been the most life changing. But we are all different and will take the road that our Spirit chooses to experience. When Joshua Stone was alive, I attended one of his workshops some years ago and felt his "material" was mostly parroted from others. He seemed to take a lot of what was already out there, put his personal stamp on it and presented it as his original, authentic idea. But this is just my take and he probably had a positive affect on many. I understand he pretty much quit eating as he felt he could subsist on "light", probably not a good idea for an insulin dependent diabetic, hence an inevitable coma and death.

[mosquito]

I agree with you Jill. I've had some very profound experiences with Ayahuasca and other teacher plants, but ayahuasca is not for the faint hearted.
It is by no means a short cut to "enlightenment", ayahuasca puts you very firmly in touch with your unconscious, and shows you what you need to know about yourself and your connection to the divine.
However, this isn't everybody's path, not everybody's medicine, so I respect those who don't wish to go that way.

[pilotsimone]

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[watchZEITGEISTnow]

You wanna interact with ETs = DMT is the thing to get you there...

Be warned though - ego death is funky!

[Muzz]

Thanks for the link pilotsimone

[Mad Hatter]

IIRC DMT is naturally manufactured in the brain while you are asleep. As such I find it's classification as an illegal substance hilarious as it makes everyone on the planet guilty of trafficking!!

[john.d]

Well ive been on a spiritual path for about 3 years now but my recent explorations with DMT have been the most profound experiences so far . I feel that it has changed me , its made me more humble after seeing the vastness , beauty and clarity of a different reality to what im used to . It also stripped me bare , so i had to face the parts of me that the ego normaly hides away .
I have a theory about the geometric stage of the experience ...
When i first watched this video :

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nO0bSSXmr1A

I instinctively knew that it was something very important about our universe and not just some trick that cant be explained .
I feel now that the 4 dimentional geometrics that you see in the trance state is creation reacting in real time to your vibration ...... Which is infinately more complex that the tone used in the above experiment .
But ... like i said ... its just a theory

pilotsimone , you beat me to the link to the dmt nexus site ... a great resource . The files section has lots of goodies :
https://www.dmt-nexus.com/Files.aspx?Filetype=Books

John

[noprophet]

A friend of mine and I used to do very ritual sessions of DMT. Respect.

He used to see shadows moving around said everything became aztec patterns and that the shadows were the ghosts of them.
I never had any grand visuals with it and would generally just sit in the heightened energy.

I've also taught a lot of people about energy via low mushroom doses. (a kick platform as Alan Moore would say)

And my original full blown spiritual awakening came from LSD.

These are not shortcuts, they're platforms of awareness. Trials by fire.

[pilotsimone]

I also wanted to add that I had many sessions where physical healing was the main focus. My body was scanned and then intense energy was placed on certain parts. Most often the focus was on my head, back teeth, and liver area. I always had the knowing they/it/? were working as quickly as they could...trying to get in as much as possible while I was on the medicine. This was because it was hard for me to make such a strong connection through simple meditation. I couldn't come close.

While all of this was going on, I was able to ask questions...or to be more accurate, I would have a wonder about something and the information was immediately in my conscious mind. I also experienced deep emotions at the end of most trips and when I had a wonder about it, I saw clearly I was helping to release deep pain/fears from the collective. It always sounded and looked incredibly painful my husband said. It was the kind of grief I imagine I would experience if one of my children died. Strangely, it felt amazing.

I can say for certain that there was absolutely no difference between my deep pain and my deep joy...both were ecstasy.

I'm very grateful to the medicine.

[Maia Gabrial]

So, where does one get DMT?
Maia

[sakire]

Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
So, where does one get DMT?
Maia

Basically you need to get your hands on two separate plant substances, one containing a MAOI inhibitor to allow the second material containing the DMT to take effect. In most countries afaik the individual components bought separately are perfectly legal, although don't take my word for that. As such it can be easy to find them if you do a general search online for the individual ingredients of your choosing on legal high websites.

There are a variety of different recipes using different materials which you can use to brew a tea, or extraction methods to bring you to a crystalline form which is smokeable.

I have personal experience of making a tea involving the two ingredients: B. Caapi (Banisteriopsis Caapi), and P. Viridis (Psychotria Viridis)

A similar method to that which I used for preparing this, and one of the simpler methods, can be found at: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=23935

You can find more methods and recipes at this address: http://www.ayahuasca-info.com/recipes/

It is a very unique experience, one which takes a lot of preparation mentally and physically (detox). It is not something to be taken lightly, but if used respectfully and sincerely, can be a wonderful teacher.

On a side note, it does taste absolutely vile too. The bitterness is quite overwhelming, although after a failed experiment of trying to mask peyote into a smoothie, and ending up drinking 2 litres of brown congealed bitter sludge it is certainly not the worst thing I've ingested!

Hope that helps,

Sak

[pilotsimone]

Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
So, where does one get DMT?
Maia

You can find everything you need to know on this forum: DMT-Nexus

sakire is right, the Ayahuasca brew tastes pretty bad. I only used the brew one time. We preferred the method of extracting the DMT from the vine and smoking it. It takes about 2 hours of cooking and then needs to sit over night (forming into crystals which can be smoked).

Note: My Ayahuasca experience lasted a very long time...more than 6 hours, I remember. When smoked it's about a 15-20 minute trip. I definitely preferred smoking it rather than ingesting. This way if the trip went dark, it didn't last as long. On another note, Ayahuasca seems to be a much more gradual ramp up. Smoking it has the strong potential to shoot you to the moon in a moment.

I posted a few of my experiences here on Avalon if you want to get an idea what this can be like. My husband (who has much more experience with DMT) never seemed to get to the places I was going. I have no idea why this is.

Ayahuasca trip report
DMT (smoked) trip report (intense, but not dark)
DMT (in an Ayahuasca-like brew) trip report (intense and dark)

[Omni]

I can see both sides of the coin. Although I mainly agree with simone.

I haven't tried DMT or ayahuasca(sp). But I could sense in people who have there is value in them. But also, I know a guy who has done DMT he said about 300 times(or 300+ i think). He is ridiculously volatile and paranoid now(although I didn't know him before he took DMT so I don't have a full view of what effect it had on him to be clear). He would speak of America falling next week, every week. lol. It got to the point where I was like "I don't think America will fall this week man, just like it didn't last week." He flipped out on me. lol. So I would advise to not take DMT 300+ times. Although I'm sure different people would have differing reactions. And also it wasn't conclusive to me this was done by DMT, as I said, I didn't know him before he was doing it. But thought it was worth mentioning.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Posted by pilotsimone (here)
I also wanted to add that I had many sessions where physical healing was the main focus. My body was scanned and then intense energy was placed on certain parts. Most often the focus was on my head, back teeth, and liver area. I always had the knowing they/it/? were working as quickly as they could...trying to get in as much as possible while I was on the medicine. This was because it was hard for me to make such a strong connection through simple meditation. I couldn't come close.

While all of this was going on, I was able to ask questions...or to be more accurate, I would have a wonder about something and the information was immediately in my conscious mind. I also experienced deep emotions at the end of most trips and when I had a wonder about it, I saw clearly I was helping to release deep pain/fears from the collective. It always sounded and looked incredibly painful my husband said. It was the kind of grief I imagine I would experience if one of my children died. Strangely, it felt amazing.

I can say for certain that there was absolutely no difference between my deep pain and my deep joy...both were ecstasy.

I'm very grateful to the medicine.

I enjoyed reading your experience, very similar to mine. I have a theory .. It is part of a case study i initiated in my work. Sickness is attached to the body through Emotion. emotion is a powerful bonding agent to the energetic body. In order to release disease in the body one must reach a state of relaxation to the point where the very emotions that attach disease are surrendered.
Once you reach this state your body then releases the disease. DMT or many other drugs are able to help you reach this state. Once you get there you can scan your body and see where the dis ease lies. most times it looks like a black ink blot ( in my experience anyway ) when you see it inside you with your minds eye you can ask it to leave with a smile and then let it go.

BTW Brooke how did yoru travel end up ? all good by the sounds of your spirit today

Hugs !

N
N

[pilotsimone]

Posted by Nanoo Nanoo (here)
I enjoyed reading your experience, very similar to mine. I have a theory .. It is part of a case study i initiated in my work. Sickness is attached to the body through Emotion. emotion is a powerful bonding agent to the energetic body. In order to release disease in the body one must reach a state of relaxation to the point where the very emotions that attach disease are surrendered.

Once you reach this state your body then releases the disease. DMT or many other drugs are able to help you reach this state. Once you get there you can scan your body and see where the dis ease lies. most times it looks like a black ink blot ( in my experience anyway ) when you see it inside you with your minds eye you can ask it to leave with a smile and then let it go.

BTW Brooke how did yoru travel end up? all good by the sounds of your spirit today

Interesting theory! I cannot remember what visuals I had during the healing sessions. If I didn't record my experiences right after, they were gone. In fact, the vast majority of it was gone anyway because I couldn't find a way to verbalize it. Much like waking up and trying to record a dream. It fades so quickly. I just knew this was the most focused attention I have ever had on my body.

We arrived safely in California after 7 long days. I've spent the last month working through every possible fear I can imagine (they have all been coming up one after another), so this trip has been a "trip" on it's own. I'm grateful though. I told my husband, I understand now that I've been living in a fetal position since childhood. The move to CA has forced me to grow out of it. You can't be a very good co-creator in the fetal position, I've learned.