Biblical Archaeology

[Rocky_Shorz]

in the video it mentions the underground Kurdish city Derinkuyu... it is only 100+ miles from the 12,500 year old Spiritual Center in Urfa, where Abraham came from also in the area of the "Stonehenge 13K years old...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=dxW26pAIG9M

[Unified Serenity]

I love this stuff!!!!

[RedeZra]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
in the video it mentions the underground Kurdish city Derinkuyu... it is only 100+ miles from the 12,500 year old Spiritual Center in Urfa, where Abraham came from also in the area of the "Stonehenge 13K years old...

right Abraham came from Urfa

but it's not older than some 4000 years

[Rocky_Shorz]

copied from page 1 for those who missed it...

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)

The Mount Judi is the most important mountain in Kurdish folklore and along with Mount Ararat is one of the mountains that is thought to be the final resting place of Noah's Ark.

In Kurdish mythology Patriarch Abraham is considered to be a Kurd. He was from the present day of Kurdistan and his place of birth is located in historic Kurdish city of Ruha (Urfa). It is still one of the holiest places in Kurdistan and in Kurdish folklore... link

also the highest elevation Salt lake in the world...

and only 20 miles from there...

Standing on the hill at dawn, overseeing a team of 40 Kurdish diggers, the German-born archeologist waves a hand over his discovery here, a revolution in the story of human origins. Schmidt has uncovered a vast and beautiful temple complex, a structure so ancient that it may be the very first thing human beings ever built. The site isn't just old, it redefines old: the temple was built 11,500 years ago—a staggering 7,000 years before the Great Pyramid, and more than 6,000 years before Stonehenge first took shape. The ruins are so early that they predate villages, pottery, domesticated animals, and even agriculture—the first embers of civilization. In fact, Schmidt thinks the temple itself, built after the end of the last Ice Age by hunter-gatherers, became that ember—the spark that launched mankind toward farming, urban life, and all that followed.

Göbekli Tepe—the name in Turkish for "potbelly hill"—lays art and religion squarely at the start of that journey. After a dozen years of patient work, Schmidt has uncovered what he thinks is definitive proof that a huge ceremonial site flourished here, a "Rome of the Ice Age," as he puts it, where hunter-gatherers met to build a complex religious community. Across the hill, he has found carved and polished circles of stone, with terrazzo flooring and double benches. All the circles feature massive T-shaped pillars that evoke the monoliths of Easter Island... link...

[observer]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
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Rocky, my old friend,

With no objection to where you are going with this Göbekli Tepe evidence, I would like to point-out that Adam's Calendar in southern Africa is far older than the Göbekli Tepe site.

The evidence is clear that Göbekli Tepe is related to events after the great cataclysmic occurrence - most likely a plasma event.

The evidence is also clear that great civilizations existed eons before this great cataclysm of mythology.

Adam's Calendar could represent the location where YHWH (Enki of the Sumerian legends) actually genetically manipulated Homo Sapiens Sapiens into creation, some one hundred and fifty thousand years ago.

[gripreaper]

Posted by observer (here)

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
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Rocky, my old friend,

With no objection to where you are going with this Göbekli Tepe evidence, I would like to point-out that Adam's Calendar in southern Africa is far older than the Göbekli Tepe site.

The evidence is clear that Göbekli Tepe is related to events after the great cataclysmic occurrence - most likely a plasma event.

The evidence is also clear that great civilizations existed eons before this great cataclysm of mythology.

Adam's Calendar could represent the location where YHWH (Enki of the Sumerian legends) actually genetically manipulated Homo Sapiens Sapiens into creation, some one hundred and fifty thousand years ago.

Observer, most refuse to look at Adam's Calendar because it blows the lid off all of the lies in regards to the age of certain cultures, especially when it comes to cultures over 200,000 years ago. The idea that the earth is 6000 years old as told in the bible is absolutely ludicrous. Adam's Calendar is AT LEAST 75,000 years old, and it is most likely three times that old. The high water marks on the Sphinx? There has not been any water on the Giza Plateau for hundreds of thousands of years, yet there are still those who cling to outdated and unsubstantiated lies.

So, although Joseph Farrell, and Michael Cremo (to name just two) have done excellent research based on current technology, why bother to look if it does not fit into your limited paradigm?

[observer]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
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So, although Joseph Farrell, and Michael Cremo (to name just two) have done excellent research based on current technology, why bother to look if it does not fit into your limited paradigm?

Exactly my point, gripreaper, and the very reason I made the comment in the first place.

My comments in this thread are directed to the OP, as he appears to be in a state of denial with regard to any sort of contradictory evidence to his ideology.

[Rocky_Shorz]

well, for the world to agree it is 13,500 years old, it opens more to the possibility the artifacts created with modern technology were 300,000+ years old, as deep as they were buried...

[Rocky_Shorz]

can you imagine what is hidden in the Vatican archives? Smithsonian... never seen by the world... Grand Canyon... cough cough...

they were going to open them to the public, why not do it online?

we know there is a big guy, but we're grown up to know even more...

[kersley]

There's no questioning that the bible is historical fact and part of our past, But who is this god in the bible?
I'm sure if you dig deep you'll find there were more then 1 god. there were many god's and all flesh and blood.

Many would call them the Annunaki's

[observer]

Posted by kersley (here)
There's no questioning that the bible is historical fact and part of our past, But who is this god in the bible?
I'm sure if you dig deep you'll find there were more then 1 god. there were many god's and all flesh and blood.

Many would call them the Annunaki's

With all due respect, I would disagree with the first part of your statement, kersley.

As for what you said regarding the Anunnaki, the Sumerians knew Yahweh as Enki.

From an objective point of view, there is absolutely nothing within the Old Testament that is historically, or scientifically verifiable.

The OP of this thread is obsessed - to the point of delusion - with presenting "faith-based" subjective testimonies, and Fundamentalists Christian interpretations to the evidence he is presenting in this and other threads.

In any genuine debate regarding the accuracy of the Bible, one cannot use the text of that book as proof, or evidence of the accuracy of that text. This is referred to as 'circular reasoning'.

As for the New Testament.... don't even get me started!!! If you want to see some of the objective evidence that has been presented in the past, please review my earlier comment in this thread and within The Bible thread.

If you truly have a desire to understand who Yahweh is, listen to this very informative interview with Dr. Joseph Farrell:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1PX3q-wZnjU

https://youtube.com/watch?v=1PX3q-wZnjU

Dr. Farrell addresses the Elohim issue at about 19 min: 40 sec. I would strongly suggest you listen to the entire interview.

[RedeZra]

Posted by observer (here)
As for what you said regarding the Anunnaki, the Sumerians knew Yahweh as Enki.

the Sumerian Anunnaki is the same as the Biblical Nephilim

God or Yahweh destroyed the Anunnaki or Nephilim

who were giant demigods and children of the fallen angels

Posted by observer (here)
From an objective point of view, there is absolutely nothing within the Old Testament that is historically, or scientifically verifiable.

no this is your personal subjective point of view

there are tons of Biblical evidence

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by RedeZra (here)

Posted by observer (here)
As for what you said regarding the Anunnaki, the Sumerians knew Yahweh as Enki.

the Sumerian Anunnaki is the same as the Biblical Nephilim

God or Yahweh destroyed the Anunnaki or Nephilim

who were giant demigods and children of the fallen angels

Posted by observer (here)
From an objective point of view, there is absolutely nothing within the Old Testament that is historically, or scientifically verifiable.

no this is your personal subjective point of view

there are tons of Biblical evidence

You got that right RedEzra. They have proven the city of Jericho had huge walls that fell outwards. Here is a little bit of research I dug up:

The Bible is a book of accurate history. Contrary to what Mr. Russell had to say, there is evidence outside the Bible that proves the reality of its history. However, we hear very little about this evidence.

New Science: Archaeology



Most scholars have been ignoring pertinent facts. The willing (and sometimes willful) ignoring of the truth has been happening for decades. Even while Russell and Collingwood were writing their books, other scholars were unearthing spectacular discoveries that cast a bright light on the truth of the biblical record. Even prior to the mid-20th century, the new science of archaeology—the digging-up and study of the remains of man’s bygone years—caused an earthquake within the anti-God scholarship of the critics. The facts are amazing.



As a science, archaeology has expanded to include the study of all cultures. However, at its earliest stage of development, the infant science was concerned most with ancient civilizations. For centuries, robbers, religious pilgrims, even Napoleon had unearthed and carried away multiple thousands of ancient artifacts from sites throughout the Near East and Egypt. It was during Napoleon’s military expedition in Egypt in 1799 that the vitally important Rosetta stone was dug up.



Yet, it was not until the end of the 19th century that a systematic study and evaluation of the Near East began. This geographic region is known as the Fertile Crescent. Egyptologist James Henry Breasted first used the term “Fertile Crescent” to describe the lush, well-watered, crescent-shaped geographic region starting at the Persian Gulf moving up the Tigris-Euphrates valley, then westward over Syria and southward along the Mediterranean Sea through Palestine. The productive Nile valley is often included within the boundaries of the crescent. It is in this geographic region that the lands and peoples of the Old Testament history are located. For nearly two centuries, the Fertile Crescent has been the focus of intense archaeological scrutiny. Even Herbert W. Armstrong supported critically important digs in Jerusalem by sending Ambassador College students there as workers.



There should be strong public interest in the archaeological findings of this region. Although at one time archaeological findings did spark sharp interest by both secular and religious scholars, much is now forgotten or goes unnoticed.



Archaeology has confirmed without question the historical accuracy of the Bible.


The Fabled Hittites



Bible critics had long sneered at references in the Bible to a people called the Hittites (Genesis 15:20; Exodus 3:8, 17; Numbers 13:29; Joshua 1:4; Judges 1:26 and elsewhere). Their opinion was that the Hittites were simply one of the many mythical peoples made up by Bible writers. Some critics said they may have been a small and unimportant tribe. But the critics were off the beam!



Toward the end of the 19th century, Hittite monuments were uncovered at Carchemish on the Euphrates River in Syria, proving the Bible right. Later, in 1906, excavations at Boghazkoy (ancient Hattusas, capital of the Hittite Empire) in Turkey uncovered thousands of Hittite documents, revealing a wealth of information about Hittite history and culture. The centuries-old Hittite rubbish showed they were a real and formidable power. They were once one of the dominant peoples of Asia Minor and the Near East. They exercised considerable control south into Syria and Palestine.



The Bible was right all along! Today, no one questions the existence of the Hittites. Volumes of books exist on the history, art, culture and society of the Hittites. Yet an anti-Bible prejudice still exists. Scholarly people usually believe that if it’s in the Bible, it’s wrong. But the Bible is right and has always been right.
In 1974, Italian archaeologists found approximately 17,000 cuneiform tablets and fragments at the site of ancient Ebla in northern Syria. The inscriptions on these artifacts date them prior to the 24th century b.c. Noachian Flood. Similar finds were uncovered in Egypt and Mesopotamia. The tablets show that writing was common centuries before Moses. The critics can no longer claim that Moses and his contemporaries were illiterate or that the Pentateuch was written by Ezra in the 5th century b.c.
http://www.thetrumpet.com/?page=article&id=1817

[Rocky_Shorz]

remember all of these areas spoke about are centered in Kurdistan...

North Syria, East Turkey, west Iran and North east Iraq...

it is the country divided in 4 pieces that prophesy say will return to one nation...

first Iraq, now Syria, next Iran and Turkey by submission...

all these wars building to a climax are centered on these lands...

[Rocky_Shorz]

ISIS is only 60 km from Urfa, they are attempting to take the Kurdish town of Kobane as their stronghold, they must be stopped before they destroy the oldest relics with religious meaning...

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Thanks everyone for all the videos and information here.

You know what the most frustrating thing is about all of this?

The most frustrating thing, is that I have lots of interests, not only in this subject. And the information that we're receiving is overwhelming. I used to like to study a little bit of everything. Now I'm going to really have to pick a few things to focus on at a time because t he amount of information available today is really becoming overwhelming.