Atlantean technology

[The One]

What do you think about this http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sou...w7wwsWiE5HRymw

The importance of the Atlantean technology and energy crystal in the Geomatrix is linked to 2012 in a rather fan­tastic way. Brown says his wife had psychically discovered that inside the mummy of the Pharaoh Khufu is a hidden crystal, and that the specific spot where the illegal dig and deaths had taken place is where this mummy is located.

According to Brown, prior to the end of 2012, the crystal has to be placed inside a secret chamber in the Great Pyramid. This “activates all of the pyramids in the world” and shields the earth from a deadly blast of radiation they assert will strike in 2012. Therein, apparently, lies the urgency they show to obtain the “crystal” and the justification for a lot of the questionable activities. They claim that other groups are trying to secretly grab the “high Atlantean technology” for their own darker purposes.

Edgar Cayce never mentioned or discussed 2012. And it’s important to keep in mind that 2012 is from the Maya calendar. I know of nothing in Egyptian lore that mentions 2012. Many people have proposed ideas about the place­ment of the pyramids and other structures at Giza. Robert Bauval’s and Adrian Gilbert’s (1994) Orion constellation idea is well known. Andrew Collins’s (2006—The Cygnus Mystery) proposal that the constellation of Cygnus was the blueprint for Giza is now one of the best-known and most discussed theories. In 2004 Collins identified a previously unrecognized well in the Moslem cemetery south of the Sphinx, which is now thought to contain a passageway head­ing off toward the Sphinx. Collins’ Cygnus correlation at Giza was a key factor in his discovery of an unknown cave complex on the other side of the plateau in 2008. These discoveries could have been the initial impetus for Brown and Gabriel’s conspiracy assertions.

The alleged involvement of the ARE in a conspiracy covering up the recovery of Atlantean technology and Atlan­tean artifacts is not supported by any evidence. On August 25 I asked John Van Auken about it. There is not a shred of evidence indicating that the ARE is “lying” about this. The ARE is certainly interested in the Egypt Hall of Records but is working slowly and on a small scale. The ARE routinely issues updates on what transpires in Egypt in written, internet, and group presentations. Those who understand the internal operations of the ARE know that if something is recovered in Egypt that even remotely links to Cayce’s Hall of Records, it will be quickly announced

Also lets not forget head of the Cairo University Archaeology Department, Dr Ala Shaheen has told an audience that there might be truth to the theory that aliens helped the ancient Egyptians build the oldest of pyramids, the Pyramids of Giza. On being further questioned by Mr Marek Novak, a delegate from Poland as to whether the pyramid might still contain alien technology or even a UFO with its structure, Dr Shaheen, was vague and replied “I can not confirm or deny this, but there is something inside the pyramid that is “not of this world”.

http://www.richardgabriel.info/

[ghostrider]

the pyramids were built with sound technology, the ET's left behind proof they were here making a monument that humans could not have built. a structure built on sand that is less the one ten thousand out of square over 5,000 years later, and perfectly alinged with star constellations. hmmmmm.

[Carmody]

Posted by ghostrider (here)
the pyramids were built with sound technology, the ET's left behind proof they were here making a monument that humans could not have built. a structure built on sand that is less the one ten thousand out of square over 5,000 years later, and perfectly alinged with star constellations. hmmmmm.

Yes. We, to this day ....with all our technology and materials....cannot hope to replicate the great pyramid to anywhere near the accuracy it was built with.

That is a very important point for people to understand.

[The One]

The Great Pyramid is the most remarkable building in existence on the face of our planet today. It was built with such precision that our current technology cannot replicate it. This pyramid is so precisely constructed that until recently (with the advent of laser measuring equipment) scientists were not able to discover some of its subtle symmetries (not to mention duplicate them). Among other aspects, there are also very exact geometric relationships between all the structures in the pyramid complex at Giza




Does the theory of evolution run in reverse

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sou...se1_xZdoYfEQsw

[TWINCANS]

Posted by The One (here)
What do you think about this http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sou...w7wwsWiE5HRymw

The importance of the Atlantean technology and energy crystal in the Geomatrix is linked to 2012 in a rather fan­tastic way. Brown says his wife had psychically discovered that inside the mummy of the Pharaoh Khufu is a hidden crystal, and that the specific spot where the illegal dig and deaths had taken place is where this mummy is located.

According to Brown, prior to the end of 2012, the crystal has to be placed inside a secret chamber in the Great Pyramid. This “activates all of the pyramids in the world” and shields the earth from a deadly blast of radiation they assert will strike in 2012. Therein, apparently, lies the urgency they show to obtain the “crystal” and the justification for a lot of the questionable activities. They claim that other groups are trying to secretly grab the “high Atlantean technology” for their own darker purposes.

Edgar Cayce never mentioned or discussed 2012. And it’s important to keep in mind that 2012 is from the Maya calendar. I know of nothing in Egyptian lore that mentions 2012. Many people have proposed ideas about the place­ment of the pyramids and other structures at Giza. Robert Bauval’s and Adrian Gilbert’s (1994) Orion constellation idea is well known. Andrew Collins’s (2006—The Cygnus Mystery) proposal that the constellation of Cygnus was the blueprint for Giza is now one of the best-known and most discussed theories. In 2004 Collins identified a previously unrecognized well in the Moslem cemetery south of the Sphinx, which is now thought to contain a passageway head­ing off toward the Sphinx. Collins’ Cygnus correlation at Giza was a key factor in his discovery of an unknown cave complex on the other side of the plateau in 2008. These discoveries could have been the initial impetus for Brown and Gabriel’s conspiracy assertions.

The alleged involvement of the ARE in a conspiracy covering up the recovery of Atlantean technology and Atlan­tean artifacts is not supported by any evidence. On August 25 I asked John Van Auken about it. There is not a shred of evidence indicating that the ARE is “lying” about this. The ARE is certainly interested in the Egypt Hall of Records but is working slowly and on a small scale. The ARE routinely issues updates on what transpires in Egypt in written, internet, and group presentations. Those who understand the internal operations of the ARE know that if something is recovered in Egypt that even remotely links to Cayce’s Hall of Records, it will be quickly announced

Also lets not forget head of the Cairo University Archaeology Department, Dr Ala Shaheen has told an audience that there might be truth to the theory that aliens helped the ancient Egyptians build the oldest of pyramids, the Pyramids of Giza. On being further questioned by Mr Marek Novak, a delegate from Poland as to whether the pyramid might still contain alien technology or even a UFO with its structure, Dr Shaheen, was vague and replied “I can not confirm or deny this, but there is something inside the pyramid that is “not of this world”.

http://www.richardgabriel.info/

This story was circulated in 2010 and the author (Brown) debunked by Greg Little and Andrew Collins. Apparently this new age-y author is trying to make a name for himself as a seer around the pyramids mysteries, and proposing ideas that cannot be verified, so looks clever. Also he took credit for discovering the caves under the pyramid that Andrew Collins discovered. Hawass soon later did a tv show where he (Hawass) 'discovered' them.

http://www.mysterious-america.net/egyptdeaths.html

http://www.andrewcollins.com/page/news/archives.htm


BTW, the psychic questing stuff from the above Collins website is loads of fun. It started back in the late 70's 80's from the quest written about in The Green Stone and The Seventh Sword - then later The Black Alchemist. They find a current trail from sorcerers back in the 17th century days.

His stuff is why I said that land alchemy is the specialty of those from the British Isles IMO

[Richard Gabriel]

Hello all,

I will join in, in more depth when I have time later, but for now and by right of reply.... and if you prefer for the bull**** to be cut out - then read this article.

Shafted on the Giza Plateau

Blessings
Richard

[friend]

Posted by Carmody (here)
Yes. We, to this day ....with all our technology and materials....cannot hope to replicate the great pyramid to anywhere near the accuracy it was built with.

I don't mean to be immediately confrontational here, but that statement can't be left without comment.

We certainly have the technology to build anything within the tolerances claimed for the Great Pyramid. The quote is often repeated, but it simply doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

It's no less amazing that they did this 4500 odd years ago. But we can most definitely do so with the tools and materials at our disposal today.

We come here with questions. Please leave the brain engaged while we're here.

We can build a glass pyramid. It's thermal tolerances are superb (better than sand stone!) while we understand the manufacture and material handling extremely well.

As for pyramids being so precisely aligned... aligned in respect to when? Now? Or when it was built? Aligned with what? We're a good 4500 odd years into a 26000 year precessional cycle, so unless the builders had "now" in mind, the alignment now is severely out compared to when they started.

[wynderer]

hi Richard -- i do hope you'll post more about this -- i checked out the link to your site -- it comes up as bigger than my screen & is difficult to read -- i've been following what little real info there has been re excavations in that area, & i got the impression that something was discovered that suddenly everyone got all hush-hush about a while ago

Posted by Richard Gabriel (here)
Hello all,

I will join in, in more depth when I have time later, but for now and by right of reply.... and if you prefer for the bull**** to be cut out - then read this article.

Shafted on the Giza Plateau

Blessings
Richard

[Amzer Zo]

Posted by friend (here)
[[...]

As for pyramids being so precisely aligned... aligned in respect to when? Now? Or when it was built? Aligned with what? We're a good 4500 odd years into a 26000 year precessional cycle, so unless the builders had "now" in mind, the alignment now is severely out compared to when they started.

Hi friend, welcome to Avalon!

FYI:

From: http://binaryresearchinstitute.org/srg/SiriusResearch.shtml

Mr. Homann concludes below that:
"These observations clearly indicate that the so-called 'precession of the earth' is NOT a scientific fact, and that the Sirius system has a noticeable gravitational influence on our solar system."

INTERPRETATION OF THE DATA:
Significant time deviations in earth's period of rotation, as measured with respect to Sirius have occurred over certain months (e.g. in the spring of 1989, when Sirius A, Sirius B and the sun were in direct conjunction). Some minor, but nevertheless distinct deviations appear at regular yearly intervals (usually around March). Since these deviations occur annually, the gravitational influence of the moon or perturbations caused by other planets in the solar system can be excluded. Since such deviations from mean sidereal time CANNOT be caused by an increase or decrease in the speed of earth's rotation, I suspect a combined 'gravitational' effect of the sun and the Sirius system on the earth's axis of rotation. In my article "Some more thoughts on gravitation" I have tried to describe how the Sirius system might be responsible for a 'curvature in space' that can reach as far as to our solar system. As we know, the revolution of Sirius B and Sirius A around their common center of gravity over a period of about 49 years proceeds in an almost vertical plane relative to the planetary plane of our solar system. This motion could cause a periodic fluctuation in the curvature of space, similar to an ocean where a calm wind would create long-stretched waves. If a ship were to sail on such waves, its mast will gently swing back and forth. Likewise, during the earth's orbit around the sun the axis of the earth would 'oscillate' due to these periodic fluctuations of the space-curvature between sun and Sirius. Although the speed of earth's rotation remains unchanged (!), a positive or negative time-deviation from mean sidereal time can be measured, depending on the magnitude and direction of the oscillation of the axis, the sidereal point of reference and the latitude on earth from which the measurements are taken. As a matter of fact, the International Earth Rotation Service observes significant daily variations in earth's sidereal rotation period.

It is also very important to remember that despite some major variations in earth's period of rotation, the mean time interval of the sidereal year or earth's complete orbit period basically remains constant.

Even more surprising is the observation that the mean time interval of the sidereal year, as measured with respect to Sirius is nearly identical (by less than one second) to the time interval of the tropical year. According to the theory of 'precession', a yearly time difference of about 1223 s is supposed to occur between a sidereal year and the tropical year.

The meridian transit measurements of Sirius have shown that neither a time difference of 6 × 1223 s, nor a difference of 6 × 3.34 s has occurred over the 6-year observation period from April 1994 to April 2000.

These observations clearly indicate that the so-called 'precession of the earth' is NOT a scientific fact, and that the Sirius system has a noticeable gravitational influence on our solar system. Obviously, Newton's laws of gravitation cannot explain Einstein's universe. In that respect, it requires further study to see if the 49 year cycle of the Sirius system can provide us with an explanation of the large fluctuations and annual irregularities in earth's rate of rotation that have also been observed around 1941 by experts at the US Naval Observatory.

Additional Comment:
Two other phenomena should be mentioned that took place during the conjunction of Sirius A, Sirius B and the sun around the beginning of February to the end of March 1989, as the function of the time deviation entered from the negative into the positive range (see Graph 1). During this time our outermost planet Pluto, whose revolution period of 248.421 years is exactly 5.0004 to 1 in relation to the Sirius B - Sirius A's orbit period of 49.68 years, went through the perihelion of its very eccentric orbit. On 23 March 1989 an 800 m long 'rock' came in strikingly close proximity to our earth at a speed of about 70.000 km/h. Missing our earth by only a few hours - thereby sparing us a gigantic catastrophe - it also went through its perihelion between sun and Sirius. Thanks to astronomers, who discovered it as it already disappeared again into the vastness of space, a major widespread panic was avoided. These celestial phenomena are not subject to plain coincidence, but are lawful celestial mechanical events. In fact, the Sirius system determines the second (empty) focus point, which is essential for the elliptic orbits of these and other celestial bodies in our solar system. Keep in mind that even our earth has its perihelion around January 2, as it passes through the conjunction of sun and Sirius each year

According to how records have been deciphered, Ancient Egyptians were VERY obsessed with Sirius. That was their chronometer/clock.

Hope this answer your question as to what the pyramids were aligned on.

[Richard Gabriel]

Hello Wynderer and everyone,

Every now and then the Stats Counter for our WebSites throws up a feedback that is carried by the discredited reporting in 2010 by AC and GL! The whole sorry mess of 2010 was soundly evidenced and corrected in my Shafted article. Whenever the subterfuge pops up with any kind of implied credibility it has to be answered. Hence my reaction.

However since 2010 events have moved forward at an incredible pace. The whole political and social scene has changed. The rats who had their best day are either continuing to work well below cover, have gone to other pastures or are still blunting their teeth on the solid bedrock just out of plain sight.

The object remains the same. To re-discover our true ancient roots. To fill the missing gaps in our ancient history. To understand the past so we may better understand the future. To discover what it is that condemned our history to be contained by the establishment and kept until death, away from the masses of ordinary people.

The speculations and theories are much more sophisticated now thanks to the internet and thanks to the reporting of free thinkers and explorers around the world. The mood has changed as the ivory towers have begun to crash to the ground. The change is helped by the things we do know now for sure, and their increasing relationship to one another.

We know in the last few years that drastic change in every direction has accelerated beyond all description. The change has reached to the core of world societies and institutions. We know these changes walk in hand with changes that are taking place to the fabric of our environment and weather systems. We know that even greater planetary changes are coincidentally taking place throughout our system – which if they were replicated on Earth would have extinguished life here by now. We know that changes are taking place in the patterned activity of the Sun and that these are all coincidental to Universal Cosmic changes as we head towards impending galactic alignments.
We know even that the resonance of the Earth is accelerating and the tectonics are responding in a truly spectacular way. We know also that evidence is emerging time on time again to push our origins back beyond the inundation of pre-10.5 thousand years ( recorded in lore of hundreds of civilisations) - and even the threshold of 200 thousand years in vast pursuit of organised gold mining in Africa as Michael Tellinger has shown to the world.

We know the records deciphered from ancient tablets, once so discredited, are likely to have been more accurate after all. Now we know the reality for sure of sophisticated energies that are denied with utter stupidity to the world, but were broken from secrecy by Tesla, and are evidenced by modern anti -gravity results, and almost perpetual energy motors. The evidence is piled high from captured official web traffic showing the structures on Mars, while the Curiosity rover stupidly scrabbles about inside a nondescript Martian crater! Analysis of disastrous weather anomalies across the globe show the signatures of development that are known to align with Scalar energy interference. The list goes on and on.

And what of the ancients? What of the tiny part we continue to play in outing it all?
It cannot all be tackled at the same time so we go where we are directed to go from within ourselves. 2010 is behind us. Since then our explorations and adventures have continued in many places in Egypt, but in particular on the plateau. We have been back many times to the cavern/tunnel system of NC2 and I have spent many hours inside the system alone. We have made fundamental discoveries such as the fact that the system has been penetrated from a lower point and then the conventional passage deliberately blocked from below. We have discovered locations within the elaborate system where excavations will lead to other deeper caverns and tunnels. We have discovered above all that the walls are covered in sophisticated images, depicted singly, in groups, rows, in tableaux. They are embedded by a process we have not been able to decipher. They can barely be seen with the naked eye and need to be exposed through special photographic analysis. They are three dimensional and often appear holographic. The images show animals of all descriptions including apes, domestic, birds, fish, mammals, reptilians and extinct species. The images show human forms and alien looking forms, but most often are Theomorphic images of humans with animal heads.

This presents a problem because the only absorbed race in Egypt attributed with a prolific ability for cave or wall art are the Halfan Race. They predominated across Africa between 20,000BP and 10,000BP. Discoveries across the world have not shown examples of art with this sophistication. We have found the figures are sometimes placed in such a way so as to indicate the route deeper, or to where there is a hidden niche or shaft. We discovered these images initially by accident …and for now we have had to satisfy our analysis from the incidental backgrounds of our vast catalogue of pics. In due course exact validation will emerge from properly posed rock imaging.

When we relate our small part to the bigger picture we come full circle to the question of credibility for our sophisticated true ancestors. Now it is time to take a different approach which pushes the level of probability way beyond the scorn of the traditionalists. This is an approach which acknowledges all the things we do know now and begins to cement a framework. For our work it comes together thus:

In a time way beyond 10,500BP the Darwin evolution of our species received its great (missing link) acceleration through interference from off-planet. Our masters were regarded as gods, and they knew the power of DNA manipulation to serve their mining purposes for fresh resources.

They knew the probability also of impending cosmic catastrophe and finally left us to our fate. Some remained to hide away in their elitist air-locked bunker homes, prepared deep in the earth just as the elite have done today. The ordinary population scattered to high or deep places to await the inundations which would sweep away their lush jungle environments. Finally they would emerge to be given a helping kick start by the remaining (demigods.) But in their long time of darkness and bunkered isolation, the sophistications they learned from their masters were translated into walls of record, capturing the nature of their civilisation, before, during and after the catastrophe.

If this was true it would be reasonable to assume that scattered survivors in other parts of the world would produce their own validating version of the same. We have begun to trawl the web for images which other explorers and travellers have captured. Just as we speculated, we easily found the same types of images so far in India and Peru for starters. Our work will continue and we know that official validation is just a matter of time… and the process will be available for anyone to join in. Everyone can play their own part according to their own aspect of interest, but perhaps with all information and knowledge that is now available, everybody should start with the grand assumption that we ‘were’ seeded by a process in some way that resembles my description. Then the parts can be drawn together until they are proved one way or another beyond all reasonable doubt.

It is not unreasonable to assume from this scenario, our masters would have also foreseen a repeat of the disastrous Cosmic changes for a time way into their future, and which is our present. The increased vibrational changes are forcing everything to face itself today. This includes the illusionary cage of conditioning we have accepted from those who stepped into the controlling shoes of our true forefathers. We accepted the cage and it made us blind to reality. It ensured however when any new understanding emerged we would all meekly accept their judgement that the new was always false. The result is a world filled with many trolls like automatons who condemn anything of higher nature to be false. Released-thought seeks the opposite with due diligence to investigate and discover if something is ‘true.’ This forum is hopefully filling with more people who are doing just that.

Blessings, Richard

If you seek the evidence to make a start then try here.

http://www.richardgabriel.info
http://www.echoesfromthechamber.info
http://www.thegizafoundation.org

.

[wynderer]

thank you, Richard -- i think this is an awesome post --

Posted by Richard Gabriel (here)
Hello Wynderer and everyone,

Every now and then the Stats Counter for our WebSites throws up a feedback that is carried by the discredited reporting in 2010 by AC and GL! The whole sorry mess of 2010 was soundly evidenced and corrected in my Shafted article. Whenever the subterfuge pops up with any kind of implied credibility it has to be answered. Hence my reaction.

However since 2010 events have moved forward at an incredible pace. The whole political and social scene has changed. The rats who had their best day are either continuing to work well below cover, have gone to other pastures or are still blunting their teeth on the solid bedrock just out of plain sight.

The object remains the same. To re-discover our true ancient roots. To fill the missing gaps in our ancient history. To understand the past so we may better understand the future. To discover what it is that condemned our history to be contained by the establishment and kept until death, away from the masses of ordinary people.

The speculations and theories are much more sophisticated now thanks to the internet and thanks to the reporting of free thinkers and explorers around the world. The mood has changed as the ivory towers have begun to crash to the ground. The change is helped by the things we do know now for sure, and their increasing relationship to one another.

We know in the last few years that drastic change in every direction has accelerated beyond all description. The change has reached to the core of world societies and institutions. We know these changes walk in hand with changes that are taking place to the fabric of our environment and weather systems. We know that even greater planetary changes are coincidentally taking place throughout our system – which if they were replicated on Earth would have extinguished life here by now. We know that changes are taking place in the patterned activity of the Sun and that these are all coincidental to Universal Cosmic changes as we head towards impending galactic alignments.
We know even that the resonance of the Earth is accelerating and the tectonics are responding in a truly spectacular way. We know also that evidence is emerging time on time again to push our origins back beyond the inundation of pre-10.5 thousand years ( recorded in lore of hundreds of civilisations) - and even the threshold of 200 thousand years in vast pursuit of organised gold mining in Africa as Michael Tellinger has shown to the world.

We know the records deciphered from ancient tablets, once so discredited, are likely to have been more accurate after all. Now we know the reality for sure of sophisticated energies that are denied with utter stupidity to the world, but were broken from secrecy by Tesla, and are evidenced by modern anti -gravity results, and almost perpetual energy motors. The evidence is piled high from captured official web traffic showing the structures on Mars, while the Curiosity rover stupidly scrabbles about inside a nondescript Martian crater! Analysis of disastrous weather anomalies across the globe show the signatures of development that are known to align with Scalar energy interference. The list goes on and on.

And what of the ancients? What of the tiny part we continue to play in outing it all?
It cannot all be tackled at the same time so we go where we are directed to go from within ourselves. 2010 is behind us. Since then our explorations and adventures have continued in many places in Egypt, but in particular on the plateau. We have been back many times to the cavern/tunnel system of NC2 and I have spent many hours inside the system alone. We have made fundamental discoveries such as the fact that the system has been penetrated from a lower point and then the conventional passage deliberately blocked from below. We have discovered locations within the elaborate system where excavations will lead to other deeper caverns and tunnels. We have discovered above all that the walls are covered in sophisticated images, depicted singly, in groups, rows, in tableaux. They are embedded by a process we have not been able to decipher. They can barely be seen with the naked eye and need to be exposed through special photographic analysis. They are three dimensional and often appear holographic. The images show animals of all descriptions including apes, domestic, birds, fish, mammals, reptilians and extinct species. The images show human forms and alien looking forms, but most often are Theomorphic images of humans with animal heads.

This presents a problem because the only absorbed race in Egypt attributed with a prolific ability for cave or wall art are the Halfan Race. They predominated across Africa between 20,000BP and 10,000BP. Discoveries across the world have not shown examples of art with this sophistication. We have found the figures are sometimes placed in such a way so as to indicate the route deeper, or to where there is a hidden niche or shaft. We discovered these images initially by accident …and for now we have had to satisfy our analysis from the incidental backgrounds of our vast catalogue of pics. In due course exact validation will emerge from properly posed rock imaging.

When we relate our small part to the bigger picture we come full circle to the question of credibility for our sophisticated true ancestors. Now it is time to take a different approach which pushes the level of probability way beyond the scorn of the traditionalists. This is an approach which acknowledges all the things we do know now and begins to cement a framework. For our work it comes together thus:

In a time way beyond 10,500BP the Darwin evolution of our species received its great (missing link) acceleration through interference from off-planet. Our masters were regarded as gods, and they knew the power of DNA manipulation to serve their mining purposes for fresh resources.

They knew the probability also of impending cosmic catastrophe and finally left us to our fate. Some remained to hide away in their elitist air-locked bunker homes, prepared deep in the earth just as the elite have done today. The ordinary population scattered to high or deep places to await the inundations which would sweep away their lush jungle environments. Finally they would emerge to be given a helping kick start by the remaining (demigods.) But in their long time of darkness and bunkered isolation, the sophistications they learned from their masters were translated into walls of record, capturing the nature of their civilisation, before, during and after the catastrophe.

If this was true it would be reasonable to assume that scattered survivors in other parts of the world would produce their own validating version of the same. We have begun to trawl the web for images which other explorers and travellers have captured. Just as we speculated, we easily found the same types of images so far in India and Peru for starters. Our work will continue and we know that official validation is just a matter of time… and the process will be available for anyone to join in. Everyone can play their own part according to their own aspect of interest, but perhaps with all information and knowledge that is now available, everybody should start with the grand assumption that we ‘were’ seeded by a process in some way that resembles my description. Then the parts can be drawn together until they are proved one way or another beyond all reasonable doubt.

It is not unreasonable to assume from this scenario, our masters would have also foreseen a repeat of the disastrous Cosmic changes for a time way into their future, and which is our present. The increased vibrational changes are forcing everything to face itself today. This includes the illusionary cage of conditioning we have accepted from those who stepped into the controlling shoes of our true forefathers. We accepted the cage and it made us blind to reality. It ensured however when any new understanding emerged we would all meekly accept their judgement that the new was always false. The result is a world filled with many trolls like automatons who condemn anything of higher nature to be false. Released-thought seeks the opposite with due diligence to investigate and discover if something is ‘true.’ This forum is hopefully filling with more people who are doing just that.

Blessings, Richard

If you seek the evidence to make a start then try here.

http://www.richardgabriel.info
http://www.echoesfromthechamber.info
http://www.thegizafoundation.org

.

[Carmody]

Posted by friend (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
Yes. We, to this day ....with all our technology and materials....cannot hope to replicate the great pyramid to anywhere near the accuracy it was built with.

I don't mean to be immediately confrontational here, but that statement can't be left without comment.

We certainly have the technology to build anything within the tolerances claimed for the Great Pyramid. The quote is often repeated, but it simply doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

It's no less amazing that they did this 4500 odd years ago. But we can most definitely do so with the tools and materials at our disposal today.

We come here with questions. Please leave the brain engaged while we're here.

We can build a glass pyramid. It's thermal tolerances are superb (better than sand stone!) while we understand the manufacture and material handling extremely well.

As for pyramids being so precisely aligned... aligned in respect to when? Now? Or when it was built? Aligned with what? We're a good 4500 odd years into a 26000 year precessional cycle, so unless the builders had "now" in mind, the alignment now is severely out compared to when they started.

The paring of that size and that tolerance, in practice..not on paper.

We simply can't do it and never have. Not yet. We can do higher tolerance in smaller objects, yes. Much smaller objects.

But that many blocks, even if formed in their locations, not move and placed? That kind of accuracy on such a large construction? Not yet, we haven't.

[wynderer]

from Richard Gabriel's site -- it would be a shame if the work he & his partner are doing is overlooked by Avalon members -- here's someone who is actually doing something , contributing to knowledge

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From our sojurns, contacts and private research we have encountered numerous strange things around Cairo and in the Western Desert. These have left us with huge questions we have been trying to find answers to. We found compelling evidence that much higher ancient sea levels signal a shore line where future exploration could be concentrated with greater expectation. We found a correlation from the ancient shore line to the Giza Plateau. We encountered compelling evidence too, of a highly sophisticated people living in a very ancient time, who left a legacy of achievement buried under the Giza plateau and the Western Desert. We invite you to examine the evidence presented in the following page-files, then return with your own feedback using the Message Board at the foot of this page - or directly to us using our admin Mail link above.

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[friend]

Thanks Amzer. That's material that exposes some new ideas to me. It's going to take me a while to read it and around it so it can sink in. My initial reaction is that 20 years of data on a 26,000 year cycle isn't enough to draw such conclusions from. This is what some more reading is going to have to answer for me - is a 20 year sample sufficient to extrapolate from?

Nevertheless... thank you so much for pointing it out. I appreciate the work has been done by people who know more than I do, but this doesn't mean I can't understand it if I try. And right now I would like to make sure I don't run off with a "hockey stick" conclusion

[friend]

Posted by Carmody (here)
But that many blocks, even if formed in their locations, not move and placed? That kind of accuracy on such a large construction? Not yet, we haven't.

My apologies. You are right, we haven't ever done anything like it since.

But I continue to believe we could if we had a will to do it. All it takes is a few million slaves and a system of government and finance that can take on a multi-generational project like this

[mountain_jim]

Posted by Richard Gabriel (here)
Hello Wynderer and everyone,

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Released-thought seeks the opposite with due diligence to investigate and discover if something is ‘true.’ This forum is hopefully filling with more people who are doing just that.

Blessings, Richard

If you seek the evidence to make a start then try here.

http://www.richardgabriel.info
http://www.echoesfromthechamber.info
http://www.thegizafoundation.org

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I just want to thank you for your posting here and for these links to a great deal of interesting detailed info that I am reading now.

[Amysenthia]

Reading this thread I can't help but think of the recent thread about John Urwin's book Beyond the 16th. He discusses his time as a secret agency British soldier. Claims his CO was EBE and that his most important mission was to recover crystals that would align all of the pyramids of the planet for an important purpose. He also mentioned that he was told that the pyramids are 90 degree OFF right now.

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Also, when you think about how we are often sent messages through movies. Has anyone else noticed lately that the SYFY channel has been replaying the Fifth Element over and over every week. In the movie there are important crystals/Stones kept inside an ET type character (the Diva singing the song) to be used to prevent the Earth from being destroyed by a dark planet.
See approximately 1:36 into movie.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MR6D7tL38U

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NObmvV-lywc

[Richard Gabriel]

Thank you for the kind support.

I wanted to take the discussion on advanced (Atlantean) technology into another area and thought it best to split it to a new thread.
Please see the new thread title in the general discussion headers ...dealing specifically with Stargates.
The subject title is : Amaru Maru, Stargates and Giza.
I hope it will spark some interest and discussion also.

Blessings
Richard and Judith

[Paul]

Posted by Richard Gabriel (here)
Please see the new thread title in the general discussion headers ...dealing specifically with Stargates.
The subject title is : Amaru Maru, Stargates and Giza.

That would be this thread: Aramu Muru, Stargates and Giza.

[onawah]

I would be interested in knowing what others on this thread might think about the info on this site:
http://www.earth-keeper.com/
It was created by archeologist, sacred tour guide and channeler James Tyberonn.
He claims that there are giant crystals buried in various sacred sites which were made by ETs on earth in Atlantean times and used for the energy grid of those times, some of which were hidden for safekeeping before the Fall and are being re-activated now.
(He also addresses such subjects as the functions of ley lines, pyramids and other ancient structures, in a very knowledgeable manner.)
It sounds very New Agey, I know, but the info is detailed and is pretty convincing IMHO if you filter out the channeled style vernacular.
His next conference in Arkansas on 12:12:12 is going to feature Graham Hancock, Dr. Semir Osmanagich, David Hatcher Childress, John Van Auken, John Major Jenkins and Max the Crystal Skull, quite an impressive lineup, which surely speaks somewhat for Tyberonn's authenticity as a geologist and scientist.
Though much of the info is presented as channeled, and so I expect there will be a lot of reservations on that score, but even channeled info can be accurate.
Thanks.