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    Im in desperate need of some alternative advice regarding Mulitple sclerosis.

    My wife and childhood sweetheart had a funny turn about 4 weeks ago where she lost her balance and could not focus on anything, I rushed her to the hospital and after some tests the doctors diagnosed MS.

    My head is in a spin over this we have 3 children aged 14,9 and 2 and my wife is 38.The only advice we have been given so far is i that when the condtion gets worse i will have to stop work to care for my wife and the social services will be on hand to help with the kids if i need them.As you can imagine i told them where to stick their help and advice.

    I have done some research and the best option i can find so far is to use Cannabis but this a very expensive option and also may bring my family to the attention of the police which is something i would like to try and avoid.

    My wifes back at home and we are carrying on as normal at the moment but i can see she has lost her sharpness and gets tired a lot.

    So im pleading for any help or advice you wonderful lot can give me, I love this women so much i was 16 and she was 14 when we first got together and shes my life i know i would not be here now if it was not for the love and support she has given me due to the way i was in my early years. There must be something out there we can try to slow this down.

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    Dear Sarlic,

    I am not a medical person in any way. But I'm reading a book by BARRY GROVES called TRICK and TREAT.
    He talks a lot about MS, Cancer and Heart conditions.
    It's about our modern diet, and how it is killing all of us. He talks a lot about eating natural fats, and low carbohydrates.

    Go to his web site SECOND OPINION. You can ask him questions.

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    Hey John, I don't know of anything that will help, but I send my best wishes and thoughts for your wife, and to you and the children too. I'm sure there will be people here who can offer great advice and help.

    Love, light and peace to you all,

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    There are many sites for alternative healing of MS. Just because a doctor says that is what your wife has does not make it so. The label of MS is often given to patients when they do not know what is going on. Continue your search for an alternate course for this dis-ease and may your family be blessed, your are in my prayers. Sending healing energy your way. The link below may help as it has many useful tips...

    http://msalternativehealingcenter.com/index.asp


    The body knows innately how to heal itself. “Let Go”, Surrender and trust this natural process. Learn to “hear” what it is telling you.

    Create a loving relationship and collaboration with your body and being, befriend it. It doesn’t want to be sick either. Working together in collaboration with your body is essential for your deep healing.

    Connect to your body and being through the heart, rather than the mind or intellect. Working through the heart center opens the energy and will give you deep insights into and awareness of your deep being and its ability to provide the true answers necessary for your healing. The mind actually blocks the healing process through its need to control, analyze and figure out what to do. Relax into the wisdom of the heart, body and soul.

    Be kind, patient and compassionate with yourself during this healing process. It takes time, and you are learning something very new and very profound that will be with you for the rest of your life.

    Create quiet, relaxed time daily so you can ”hear” or feel what your body and being is telling you.

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    Terrific post Mr. Crow !!!

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    Dear Sarlic- First, my heartfelt best wishes to you and your family.

    My step-brother's wife developed M.S. in her 20's and it progressed over the years until she passed away three years ago at the age of 58. Her daughter, who is 35, was diagnosed with M.S. two years ago. Since she lives in N.Y., she has access to some of the most knowledgeable physicians who specialize in the treatment of M.S. The doctor who treats her told her specifically that treating M.S. nowadays, is completely different than when her mother got it, 35 years ago. He told her that the treatment available has advanced incredibly. So my advice to you, as someone who has seen both mother and daughter with the same disease, get the best specialist you can find. The advances in treatment over the past few years are fantastic and you want someone who spends all his/her time dealing with patients who have M.S. These physicians are out there. You can get referrals from your local hospital, doctor, do an online search, etc. You want to be as pro-active as possible and get your wife in the best treatment plan immediately.

    I see that you are in London. You will have many physicians near you that you can contact. I wish you the best of luck in your search.

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    I had MS, it began to peak around the same time age 38. . MS is very much an energetically inflicted disease, and if I had gone with conventional treatment very likely I'd be in a wheel chair now.

    There's a number of things to look at because MS is not really a disease its a symptom of an underlying issue. How the MS symptoms are express tell more than anything else. Some people have a lot of searing pain and some experience other symptoms and sorting that out leaves a backtrail to the actual cause.

    I have someone banging at the door right now but I'll come back with some questions that may further help you narrow down the causes and where this started.

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    Thanks so much for the replys.

    This is the main reason i joned Avalon to be amongst and learn from some of the most enlightened people on this planet.
    Every reply is so full of good postive energy which is what i so badly needed all we have been getting is sympathy and negative comments.

    My wife is even reading the replys which is a really good thing as she thinks this website is as she says "a bit on the funky side"
    After i posted this thread i had a chat with the wife and said we need to listen to the medical advice but also it might be a good idea to look into the alternative side of things.
    To my surprise she agreed 100%, We just ordered the Trick and treat book (thanks Pie n eal) and we are both looking forward to trying out all the postive information.

    Thanks again
    John

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    Hi Sarlic, have you seen this documentary on Medical Cannabis? It includes a case of a lady whose MS is now under control. I had a neighbor about 20 years ago who had MS. He went to Lebanon for treatment with Cannabis. It made him a lot better too.



    See also page 1: http://www.mcsocal.com/docs/chronic_conditions_treated_with_cannabis.pdf

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    I have read of positive outcomes using marijuana that has been synthesized using alcohol to make a tarlike paste which you only need a pea sized amount once or twice a day. It's been helpful with many ailments from what I read. I have also read that our diet is our main problem. We are too acidic. Look into the pH diet. If you can get your pH up high enough then you may see amazing things. Raw foods are very good in this regard. I just bought the meal replacement plan by Garden of Life that is all raw foods that you mix with water. It's rather thick and my father who is suffereing from stage 4 colon cancer has a hard time drinking it, but I am just trying to get some nutrition into him. I also put him on their liquid vitamins and minerals. Get flouride out of your bodies as well. You could try oral chelation to see if she has a build up of heavy metals. There are ways to have your stool and urine sample tested to see if that is an issue. Most American's have heavy metal problems from vaccines, flouride, aluminum, lead and other chemicals.

    I am sending healing energy to you both. Remember to breath consciously as well. Stay centered and when you feel that fear and stress do 4 to 8 cycles of 4,7,8 breathing. Full breath in through nose for the count of 4, hold it for 7, and exhale fully through mouth for 8 counts. Do this 4 to 8 times and you will reset your sympathetic / parasympathetic system.

    Much love to you both

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    Your wife is fortunate she has a supportive spouse. My healing process was impeded because my ex spouse was more concerned about my future earning potential than my health Or rather how the MS would affect my future earning potential. His safety became more of a issue than my health. . To me it seemed if I got my health back my future earning potential would be safe. Part of the healing process was letting the husband go, because he was actually the source of the problem. The moment I walked out the door, my symptoms went away. Incredulous but true. About the same age. My symptoms started when I was 37, peaked at 38, and when I left him at age 39...they went away.




    I'd insist on a Gluten Intolerance test, and check for what is known as leaky gut syndrome. Dr's typically won't look here for neurological issues but often times its the hidden culprit.--anomalies in the small intestine. A great many people I've looked at that have had MS, Parkinsons and Fibromyalgia once the gluten issue was corrected so was the neurological condition.

    Is she having panic and or anxiety attacks? Being treated with any form of anti anxiety or anti depressant.

    Diet? Carb heavy?


    Pain in the extremities especially the legs. Or is more expressed by numbness, light headedness, and difficulty moving extremities, they are clumsy and not working the way they should and is uncontrolled twitching present. Cramping sensations like charlie horses in legs, feet, or hands?

    Given her age which is actually an age of spiritual maturation when the higher self expression begins to being more bearing on our typical everyday consciousness making 'old' issues come back to the surface again because they haven't been resolved. It may be forcing some unresolved issues from childhood to the surface. We often times very unaware of this. So changes in emotional state at all? Any parental guardianship authority issues experienced in childhood. Meaning what sorts of relationships and perhaps issues has she had with family members that could be stirring about in the subconcious. Any concious recollection on her part like any old memories coming to the surface at odd moments. Or focusing on things from the past which seem to be irrelevant to the situation at hand here?.

    Stress and coping with everyday life, things may need to be rearranged so there is not so much pressure bearing down. It sounds like your domestic life has a lot of energy it with the kids and all and all them being sorta spread out. For a mother this requires shifting gears all the time and sometimes when we shift too often and too hard the 'transmission' breaks down and gets stuck. It gets harder to move ...which is how MS is expressed. We no longer have our natural movement.

    And while this on its own is not a cure or diagnosis it does help to find out where the underlying causes are. Medicine may dismiss it but...its not really necessary that they accept it, its something one explores on their own to support their healing process.

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    I have no medical advice, just living advice. Live in the present. What's in the future is not yet formed. That's not saying you should deny possibilities just don't treat them as real until they present themselves.

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    Excellent advice in this thread. Do not discount it, please. And do NOT subscribe to conventional medicines ideas on this "disease". There is no disease, there is only dis-ease. Your wife has a nutritional deficiency, has ingested toxins, or is emotionally disconnected from her source energy. The human body can heal itself!

    Her diet must be strictly pure, no processed foods, no sugar. Eat lots of vegetables and fruits, or make real juices from the whole veg/fruit. Study on how to release the emotional blockages in her subconcious mind. And give her tons of Vitamin D, 25,000 to 100,000 units a day for a few weeks, then down to 10,000/20,000 a day forever. You cannot OD on vitamin D! And get her into the sunshine. The further away from the equator, the higher the incidences of MS. Sunshine heals!

    Read The Healing Code, Alex Loyd. Devour alternative sources of healing.

    Also: http://www.lowdosenaltrexone.org/

    Good luck and many blessings of love,

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    Thanks Eagle that is some really good info.

    Your post describes nearly all of her Symptons. Our lifestyle is very hectic so diet is on the bad side and as for emotional state in the space of 3 years the wife has lost all her close family members.
    First my father in-law died suddenly from a heart attack, next was loseing her only brother in a motorbike accident and then we lost her mum to cancer only last week so emotionaly its been really bad.
    Theres so much more thats gone on in our lifes over the last few years but trust me its book sized so wont go in to it now. Im seeing the best way to start here is a lifestyle change.
    We have been talking about getting out of London to the countryside for a while now so maybe now is a good time to start the ball rolling.Diet is also on the bad side (too much carbs) and the wife rarely eats Veg
    So must be lacking in the Vitamin dept. And as for stress well i work 12 to 20 hour shifts at a time so when i do get a bit of time at home im so tired im useless but do the best i can to help and take some of the pressure off.

    The advice i have been given in this thread is brilliant and i can see a glimmer of light again.

    Cheers all

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    There is enough great information and tools here to completely turn around things. Your idea of moving out of London is also excellent. The difference between living in a big city and the country is so amazing, there is no description to compare the two. Get as close to nature as possible and Mother Earth will do her part in healing, as well. She knows what she's doing and likes to share with any who are appreciative of her gifts.

    With all that sorrow and deaths of those close to your wife and with the latest one of her Mum almost right on top of when her major symptoms broke out, there's a direct and clear connection and a good chance that this is playing a large part in her sadness and lack of feeling nurtured herself and lack of general well being. Endurance becomes an issue at some point unless she can get a handle on her feelings of loss. It tends to aggravate everything and amplifies the effects.

    So many too close, so close, are very difficult to deal with anyway and when you add all the other stuff going on, it's likely that something would manifest sooner rather than later. It's a whole lot of added pressure to hit her in the solar plex at once and try to absorb what feels much like physical blows when they are all bunched together like this.

    And now you are feeling them as well.

    Concentrate on loving each other and nurturing without worrying so much about work, pressures, money, and circumstances around you. This is hard and requires an "attitude adjustment" of the highest order. You'd be surprised at how wonderful things can change into if you start focusing on improvements rather than wants and needs. A positive new focus is required and it can change everything!

    If you take even the tiniest steps to change your life, the universe rushes in to help just like it is doing on Avalon for you here. All for just the asking. Ask and it is being granted now.

    Many blessings to you both! And this too, shall pass. Much love! xoxoxox

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    9eagle9, pin'e'al and bearcrow in their work above epitomize the value and power of this forum.

    I can add nothing to their words except that I have a sneaky spider sense that you will get through this with a little determination!

    My own experience with being diagnosed with something awful was that it turned out to be a basic error in diagnosis - but those four days between being told, to sit down, do I want my wife present, you have Hodgekins Lymphoma; and me saying bollocks to that, soliciting some competent specialist medical help and finding out my GP had read the differential diagnosis in the wrong order, has shaped my life from that moment onward.

    Many Doctors work within cages, they don't mean to do it, I am sure they want to help, but their tools and methods are the product of much distortion and control at the hands of the dark forces that we are currently evicting from this world.

    May the love and the light of our creation speed you (both) on your way to healing.

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    Sarlic,

    I have no advice, but I wanted to say that I am sorry that you and your wife are going through this. I am sending love and light to her. Keep us updated on how things are going.

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    Makes one wonder how many people die of chemo therapy treatment that never had cancer. More than we really want to dwell on probably. Lung cancer being the most prevalently treated cancer that is most times not cancer at all. People dying of calcium plaques on their lungs. Not an ideal condition but far far from fatal.

    Thank god you had the wherewithall not to hop on the conventional treatment train without seeking a second opinion. Many people don't and are driven down the wrong avenues by panic...

    Now the word Cancer, MS things like that carry the weight of death sentence. A breast cancer survivor in the community here said the attitudes we expressed toward Cancer helped her a lot by referring to cancer as 'boring', 'dull', 'no brainer and "Cancer? Thank god, cause colds are a bitch to treat." Her favorite was when someone would say "Stop whining, you have Cancer for pities sake, its not like you're dying."

    She got an entirely different perspective than the usual "do you want family members to be present'.



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    9eagle9, pin'e'al and bearcrow in their work above epitomize the value and power of this forum.

    I can add nothing to their words except that I have a sneaky spider sense that you will get through this with a little determination!

    My own experience with being diagnosed with something awful was that it turned out to be a basic error in diagnosis - but those four days between being told, to sit down, do I want my wife present, you have Hodgekins Lymphoma; and me saying bollocks to that, soliciting some competent specialist medical help and finding out my GP had read the differential diagnosis in the wrong order, has shaped my life from that moment onward.

    Many Doctors work within cages, they don't mean to do it, I am sure they want to help, but their tools and methods are the product of much distortion and control at the hands of the dark forces that we are currently evicting from this world.

    May the love and the light of our creation speed you (both) on your way to healing.

    John..

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    Just a quick additional suggestion to all the fine comments already been made, and that is high quality protein (not meat) ie glutathione can help MS. There's a product called Immunocal Platinum from Immunotec in Montreal that we have been associated with for years due to hubby's health issues. The problem is the product is expensive and she'll need more than one packet/day. But I wanted to say because of the good reports with MS.

    Maybe you'll run into another glutathione product less expensive, just make sure it can assimilate into cells.

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    I havent read all the posts here, but vitamin D is very much a help for MS. (sunlight). Our last doctor did much research on the subject and recommended Vitamin D, as well as organic food, staying away from poisons etc. All great recommendations. I have a friend who I had not caught up with for about 15 years. She had MS when I first met her but appeared fine. She is now 35 had still healthy. She works outside and does take vit D. She and her new partner are planning to have children. She does get tired sometimes, but otherwise is unaffected by MS.

    9eagle9, your posts are extremely inspirational and wonderful.

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