God gets tired after spending enegy

[Davidallany]

God needed rest on the 7th day?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=RH9NY7jqwsI

[Wacko in pajamas]

These are the days of the rest


...of our lives .

[enoch]

scriptural clarification

i don't see any implication of sleep or wearyness in the actual interpretation of the word. using the English translation is not quit accurate.
you could just as easily say celebrated

rest = strong's 7673 shabath (shaw-bath');

a primitive root; to repose, i.e. desist from exertion; used in many implied relations (causative, figurative or specific):

KJV-- (cause to, let, make to) cease, celebrate, cause (make) to fail, keep (sabbath), suffer to be lacking, leave, put away (down), (make to) rest, rid, still, take away

the comment about the 6000 year creation is not quite accurate either agreed this is the modern religious view but religion is man made.
so in the interpretation you could just as easily say the current age of man began 6000 years ago not the earth. it was already here.
also you could just as easily interpret that before the creation of this age the earth was left in destruction as though it had been through a great war.

Gen 1:2
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
(KJV)

without form = strong's 8414 tohuw (to'-hoo);

from an unused root meaning to lie waste; a desolation (of surface), i.e. desert; figuratively, a worthless thing; adverbially, in vain:

KJV-- confusion, empty place, without form, nothing, (thing of) nought, vain, vanity, waste, wilderness.

void = strong's 922 bohuw (bo'-hoo);

from an unused root (meaning to be empty); a vacuity, i.e. (superficially) an undistinguishable ruin:

KJV-- emptiness, void.

darkness = strong's 2822 choshek (kho-shek');

from 2821; the dark; hence (literally) darkness; figuratively, misery, destruction, death, ignorance, sorrow, wickedness:

KJV-- dark (-ness), night, obscurity.

[Davidallany]

And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made

King James Bible

Six days may work be done; but in the seventh [is] the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth [any] work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.

Yeh, for sure

[Krullenjongen]

The whole video is based on the premise that God NEEDED rest and was TIRED.
The bible doesn't say anything about God being tired or needing rest, God just rested.

Have you never come home and rested without being tired or needing rest or sleep.
I thought today we call that lounging, just kick your feet up and relax a bit.
If i was God then i would do that too, after all that He has created he just kicked back and enjoyed the things he made.
God being tired hahaha, pretty funny thou

[Davidallany]

God being tired hahaha, pretty funny thou

It is, isn't it
No wonder it's the greatest story ever told. There is this other story about an Indian monk who meditated for 7 years in a cave using breathing techniques.

[Davidallany]

The last of the Olympian gods encounters Kirk.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QycFLKiZOpk

[araucaria]

Hello Davidallany my friend

I will defer to the no doubt superior knowledge of enoch, but the insights into the kabbalah from Marc-Alain Ouakine (don't know if he has much stuff translated into English) suggest that we are talking about the 'tsimstum' theorized by Rabbi Isaac Luria whereby the creation resulted from a withdrawal of the infinte through a force called chaddai.

I would be grateful for any further insights into this fascinating idea.

[Davidallany]

Hello my friend

The Zohar explains the term "Ein Sof" as follows:
“ Before He gave any shape to the world, before He produced any form, He was alone, without form and without resemblance to anything else. Who then can comprehend how He was before the Creation? Hence it is forbidden to lend Him any form or similitude, or even to call Him by His sacred name, or to indicate Him by a single letter or a single point. . . . But after He created the form of the Heavenly Man, He used him as a chariot wherein to descend, and He wishes to be called after His form, which is the sacred name 'YHWH'.[1]

One would think that a "Chaddai"and " Ein Sof" God, would have the ability to create laws of " Makom" to his liking, therefore it was not necessary for him to withdraw from an area before making a manifestation, he could have made laws that would tolerate his "bright light".
Unless the laws he made were made against his will or he didn't anticipate future problems when creating them or he doesn't know what he's doing.

[enoch]

Terminology Defined

Makom or HaMakom—literally "the place", perhaps meaning "The Omnipresent

El Shaddai (Hebrew: אל שדי‎) [shah-dahy](Chaddai) is one of the Judaic names of God. El Shaddai is conventionally translated as God Almighty.

Ein-Sof, the Infinite God, has no static, definable form. Instead, the Kabbalists conceive God, the world and humanity as evolving together through, and thus embodying, a number of distinct stages and aspects, with later stages opposing, but at the same time encompassing, earlier ones. The Kabbalist¹s God is both perfectly simple and infinitely complex, nothing and everything, hidden and revealed, reality and illusion, creator of man and created by man,. As Ein-Sof evolves it is progressively revealed as "nothing whatsoever" (Ayin), the totality of being, the Infinite Will (Ratzon) , Thought and Wisdom, the embodiment of all value and significance (the Sefirot), the wedding of male and female, and ultimately the union of all contradictions. Ein-Sof is both the totality of this dialectic and each of the points along the way. Ein-Sof must be constantly redefined, as by its very nature, it is in a constant process of self-creation and redefinition.
Hi Friends

Posted by araucaria (here)

the insights into the kabbalah from Marc-Alain Ouakine suggest that we are talking about the 'tsimstum' theorized by Rabbi Isaac Luria whereby the creation resulted from a withdrawal of the infinte through a force called chaddai.

Agreed this was his Theory. Yet upon analysis one could just as easily theorize is was not thru a withdraw or contraction of the infinite force called Chaddai (almighty). But thru an expulsion or release of the infinite creative power of El Shaddai thru the spoken word. Thus lending validity to the manuscripts account

Concerning the Kabbalists it has long been held they operate contrary to the commandments of the original manuscripts. Seeking to know God thru means of worldly wisdom IE. The manipulation of principalities and powers by means outside the dictates accepted by God.

One would think that a "Chaddai"and " Ein Sof" God, would have the ability to create laws of " Makom" to his liking, therefore it was not necessary for him to withdraw from an area before making a manifestation, he could have made laws that would tolerate his "bright light".
Unless the laws he made were made against his will or he didn't anticipate future problems when creating them or he doesn't know what he's doing.

Thinking in terms of the spiritual IE. That the laws were made perfect to reflect his holiness. For we know by the manuscripts that no flesh can see a holy GOD and live. Whereby the "bright light" being visible to the sinful nature of our flesh would provoke death. And the visible presence of GOD outside creation would provoke bias faith. Thus negating Abraham's righteousness. for by faith was he counted righteous because he believed GOD.

Heb 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
(KJV)


James 2:23-24
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
(KJV)

[araucaria]

Posted by enoch (here)


Concerning the Kabbalists it has long been held they operate contrary to the commandments of the original manuscripts. Seeking to know God thru means of worldly wisdom IE. The manipulation of principalities and powers by means outside the dictates accepted by God.


(KJV)

The Tora exegesis corresponding to the tsimtsum would be to say that the first word of Genesis Berechit begins with the second letter of the alphabet, and so an alternative translation to 'in the beginning' might be 'point b:' - an interesting way to start talking.

[araucaria]

Posted by Davidallany (here)

God being tired hahaha, pretty funny thou

It is, isn't it
No wonder it's the greatest story ever told. There is this other story about an Indian monk who meditated for 7 years in a cave using breathing techniques.

Borges at his creative best in El Otro tells of meeting his 18-year-old alter ego. He says he had a good night's rest and then goes on to describe his (psychological) 'state of fatigue'. His experience somehow happens and does not happen.

[ulli]

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by enoch (here)


Concerning the Kabbalists it has long been held they operate contrary to the commandments of the original manuscripts. Seeking to know God thru means of worldly wisdom IE. The manipulation of principalities and powers by means outside the dictates accepted by God.


(KJV)

The Tora exegesis corresponding to the tsimtsum would be to say that the first word of Genesis Berechit begins with the second letter of the alphabet, and so an alternative translation to 'in the beginning' might be 'point b:' - an interesting way to start talking.

Interesting. Let's take the letter b one step further to the word "be". The command.
All creative thought begins with the command "Be".

Just say "Be", and it is.

[araucaria]

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by araucaria (here)

Posted by enoch (here)


Concerning the Kabbalists it has long been held they operate contrary to the commandments of the original manuscripts. Seeking to know God thru means of worldly wisdom IE. The manipulation of principalities and powers by means outside the dictates accepted by God.


(KJV)

The Tora exegesis corresponding to the tsimtsum would be to say that the first word of Genesis Berechit begins with the second letter of the alphabet, and so an alternative translation to 'in the beginning' might be 'point b:' - an interesting way to start talking.

Interesting. Let's take the letter b one step further to the word "be". The command.
All creative thought begins with the command "Be".

Just say "Be", and it is.

Berechit also has the last three letters of the Hebrew alahabet in order so in a sense it is saying 'everything but the kitchen sink' - there is no beginning to all that is!

[Steven]

'Resting' is the Law of Balance. A universe under tension all of the time doesn't respect itself. There is a Law in the Universe that tend to seetle things down all of the time. Balance in all things. My humble opinion and understanding, for what its worth.

Namaste, Steven

[araucaria]

Possibly resting is to be seen as the creative act itself, letting 'be' (thanks ulli). Things don't come until you stop willing them into existence, they just happen. So where does that put us with our intention thing??

[Davidallany]

Things don't come until you stop willing them into existence, they just happen. So where does that put us with our intention thing??

True if were examining the Human aspect, but here in this thread we are addressing the Chaddai with his Ein Sof and all the perks.

And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made

"For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy."

It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

Refresh= 1. To revive with or as if with rest, food, or drink; give new vigor or spirit to.

[Davidallany]

Interesting. Let's take the letter b one step further to the word "be"

That would be cool
Be rechit= In Beginning.

[enoch]

This I think lends to understanding the whole purpose of the sabbath. Chaddai being just and true must lead by example by resting (celebrating). Thus by interpretation the day can be viewed as a day of rest for the weary or a day of celebration for the strong. Also the manuscripts point to a prophetic implication that needs to be applied when considering the original purpose behind the making of this particular day holy.

Mark 2:27-28
27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
(KJV)

Col 2:16-18
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
(KJV)


4521 sabbaton (sab'-bat-on);

of Hebrew origin [7676]; the Sabbath (i.e. Shabbath), or day of weekly repose from secular avocations (also the observance or institution itself); by extension, a se'nnight, i.e. the interval between two Sabbaths; likewise the plural in all the above applications:

KJV-- sabbath (day), week.

7673 shabath (shaw-bath');

a primitive root; to repose, i.e. desist from exertion; used in many implied relations (causative, figurative or specific):

KJV-- (cause to, let, make to) cease, celebrate, cause (make) to fail, keep (sabbath), suffer to be lacking, leave, put away (down), (make to) rest, rid, still, take away.

Great conversation thanks Davidallany

[Davidallany]

This I think lends to understanding the whole purpose of the sabbath. Chaddai being just and true must lead by example.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xEHq1l7qSxw

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The masters

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You are welcome enoch, we are but mirrors for each other.