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    Nobel laureate touts E-Cat cold fusion

    Dr. Brian Josephson, winner of the 1973 Nobel Prize in Physics for his work on superconductivity, has recently released a YouTube video of an interview of himself conducted by Judith Driscoll, Professor of Materials Science at Cambridge University.

    Dr. Brian Josephson, winner of the 1973 Nobel Prize in Physics for his work on superconductivity, has recently released a YouTube video of an interview of himself conducted by Judith Driscoll, Professor of Materials Science at Cambridge University. The stated purpose of the video is to wake up the media to the E-Cat story, which has not been widely reported on in the mainstream media of the English-speaking world. While some cold fusion advocates hypothesize the existence of a conspiracy of silence to suppress news with such important implications, Josephson suggests the silence is more due to an unwillingness of the traditional media outlets (both general and scientific) to risk appearing credulous by simply reporting on the story.

    The content of the video is not really news for those who have been following the E-Cat story. Josephson himself is not likely privy to secret details of Andrea Rossi's work, although he has kept up with developments in his capacity as an editor of the "Energy Catalyzer" page on Wikipedia. The video appears intended as an introduction of the energy catalyzer to a general audience including, of course, those in the media. Josephson uses a number of simple analogies and illustrations to explain why he believes the E-Cat could work. One of his analogies addresses the lack of high-energy gamma rays produced by Rossi's device—a serious objection from a nuclear physics perspective if the device does indeed work by the fusion of nickel and hydrogen.

    However, while he gives support for the idea that the E-Cat could work, Josephson doesn't offer his own hypothesis detailing how he believes it does work. Perhaps optimists and skeptics alike can at least agree that there is still too little known publicly about the E-Cat for anyone (except Rossi, perhaps) to develop a comprehensive theory on how it functions, if indeed it does. A comprehensive theory is not necessary for the commercial success of device: it just needs to work. But, if it does work, there will be a much stronger demand than there is even now among scientists for more details on the process so that it can be researched properly. Rossi's recent deal with the University of Bologna researchers is a positive development in that respect.

    The imprimatur of a Nobel laureate in Physics may prove beneficial to Andrea Rossi, and to cold fusion research in general. In Dr. Josephson's case that benefit may be tempered by the fact that he has been known as a cold fusion advocate for years. And perhaps it would also be wise to recall that a Nobel laureate in Physics, Sir John Cockcroft, was involved in hot fusion's version of the Fleischmann-Pons story, so we have evidence, if we needed any, that a Nobel Prize in Physics doesn't prevent one from drawing wrong conclusions in the field of physics.

    Still, if nothing else, Dr. Josephson's YouTube video and tomorrow's press conference in Greece may prove to be the catalysts that convince the mainstream media the time is right to start reporting this story. More media reporting on the story means a wider audience, and therefore more people talking about the E-Cat and cold fusion in general, and discussing whether it can be real. That seems to be precisely what Dr. Josephson is hoping to accomplish. We shall see if he is successful.

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    Hi loveandgratitude on weds 22/6 Cash flow show the Host James Martinez who is into trying to publisize Cold Fusion Research . Was told by Bob Nevritt that it had been cracked and would be available very soon....Not sure how relevent this is, but if he 'States' its true, he usually has a good inside source.....Thought I'd pass it on...Cheers Steve..
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    it appears the US government have created a stumbling block and wont issue a patent as wait for it; (as they dont believe its possible)) Ha Ha, when does any a government block a patent because they think it wont work, they have not got that power it is not for them to decide what will work and what wont' a patent is to protect your work whether it works or not is not important .
    What a patent must show is "NEW CLAIMS" claims that the process has not been patented before, whether it works or not is of no importance the consumer will decide that.
    This is the only way any Government can stop a patent.

    Under the Invention Secrecy Act of 1951, patent applications on new inventions can be subject to secrecy orders restricting their publication if government agencies believe that disclosure would be "detrimental to the national security."

    The idea that some Government Employee can decide what is possible and not possible is a joke, someone spends year developing something and someone who has never invented anything decides if its possible.

    What is stopping the inventor for getting a worldwide patent and excluding the USA its only 325 million out of 6 billion.

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    There is an Italian patent: http://www.uibm.gov.it/uibm/dati/Ava...atent%20Office

    But his new patent now include a self-destruction device included.

    Namaste, Steven

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    Quote Posted by loveandgratitude (here)
    Under the Invention Secrecy Act of 1951, patent applications on new inventions can be subject to secrecy orders restricting their publication if government agencies believe that disclosure would be "detrimental to the national security."
    Erm if oil is turned into a useless fuel then thats national security for USA petrol dollars right? If this works and the next few years many more come up with better designs or better cold fusion reactions then its 100% sure that oil will stop being used as fuel. Can the USA handle that? Well at least not the true leaders of USA. The people i am sure will be delighted.

    Remember with this 6 - 7 times more energy that put in makes these machines work by themselves till they break. You use some energy to operate it and then it makes 6-7 times more than that ... thus covering the operation energy cost. I think this is called overunity (not sure tho).

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    What is stopping the inventor for getting a worldwide patent and excluding the USA its only 325 million out of 6 billion.
    I believe he went to the EU for a patient already. If it works even in 1 area then they cant stop it anymore. We have to see if he is still alive till Late October when the 1MW power plant goes live... then it will be too late to stop it.

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    Quote Posted by Steven (here)
    There is an Italian patent: http://www.uibm.gov.it/uibm/dati/Ava...atent%20Office

    But his new patent now include a self-destruction device included.

    Namaste, Steven
    Steven .. i think people cant realize what this means. The hole way of scientific thinking "You cant produce more energy than you consume" will change. Can you imagine how many brains will have a breakthrough and might start thinking more outside the slave box that is todays science??

    All those that get stopped just cause you cant do this or that ... will be left to test and make new designs for countless other applications/technologies. Maybe this will stop the PTB to kill off any other possible new techs coming out.

    2 things i am worried tho.
    1st can he be a PTB agent that they think its time we change from oil in the next 5 years say so they slowly put this out? Is it really safe or will we find out something terrible is happening??
    2nd if this is true do you think Greece is attacked now to stop or take over this plant ... October is coming but by then Greece wont be Greek property anymore.

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    Quote Posted by Etherios (here)
    ...Steven .. i think people cant realize what this means. The hole way of scientific thinking "You cant produce more energy than you consume" will change. Can you imagine how many brains will have a breakthrough and might start thinking more outside the slave box that is todays science??


    1st can he be a PTB agent that they think its time we change from oil in the next 5 years say so they slowly put this out? Is it really safe or will we find out something terrible is happening??
    2nd if this is true do you think Greece is attacked now to stop or take over this plant ... October is coming but by then Greece wont be Greek property anymore.
    You're right, people do not realize the potential such an invention has to create real positive change. On the other hand, we live in a world ruled by "psychopaths kings without compassion for Life" and I really share your concerns. It can become a weapon as well. In the hand of whoever has it, in a world of conflicts and competition, it can become a nightmare if humanity does not wake up and take back its power, guided by Principles of Life higher than any individual freedom.

    Namaste, Steven

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    Thanks for this thread! It's important to realise that this technology is now being commercialised. It is no longer just an interesting theoretical possibility. Just look at Defkalion's recent press conference -
    http://pesn.com/2011/06/25/9051857_D...Rollout_Plans/
    I think this technology would have been squashed in the past, now it is public. Big changes...

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