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    Illuminati Jewish banker Jacob Schiff pulled the strings on the "Russian" Revolution, including the savage murder of Czar Nicholas II and his family.
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    Quote In July 1918, Illuminati Jewish banker Jacob Schiff sent a direct order thru US diplomatic channels to the Bolsheviks in Russia to murder Czar Nicholas II and his family.

    This very hidden historical fact, as well as the decision-making process behind the murder of the Czar's family, is described in the book "Under The Sign Of The Scorpion" by Jyri Lina. Below is a short excerpt:

    The order to murder the Tsar and his family actually came from New York. Lenin had hardly any say in the matter. The Bolsheviks had been forced to flee from Yekaterinburg in such haste that they had no time to destroy all the telegraph strips. Those strips were later found in the telegraph house. Nikolai Sokolov [author of a detailed investigation carried out in 1919 under the authority of "White" (anti-Communist) leader Alexander Kolchak] took care of them but could not decipher the telegrams. This was done only in 1922 by a group of experts in Paris. Sokolov then discovered that the strips were extremely revealing, since they dealt with the murder of the Tsar and his family.

    The chairman of the Central Executive Committee, Yakov Sverdlov, sent a message to Yakov Yurovsky where he relayed that after he had told Jacob Schiff in New York about the approach of the White army, he had received orders from Schiff to liquidate the Tsar and his entire family at once. This order was delivered to Sverdlov by the American Representation, which then lay in the town of Vologda.

    Sverdlov ordered Yurovsky to carry out this order. But on the following day, Yurovsky wanted to check whether the order really applied to the whole family or just to the head of the family, the Tsar. Sverdlov then told him that the entire family was to be eliminated. Yurovsky was responsible for the order being carried out.

    So Lenin did not decide any of this himself. The Jewish historian Edvard Radzinsky has tried to assert that it was Lenin who gave the orders to murder the Tsar and his family. But no such telegram has been found in the archives. Radzinsky's explanation that Lenin had this telegram destroyed does not hold water, since there is a vast amount of compromising material about Lenin otherwise. Why should he have destroyed only this particular telegram and no other equally incriminatory documents?

    In November 1924, Sokolov told a close friend that his publisher was afraid to print these sensitive facts in his book. They were censored out. Sokolov showed his friend the original strips and the deciphered translations. Sokolov died suddenly one month later. He was to have traveled to the United States to give evidence in favour of Henry Ford in Kuhn, Loeb & Co's lawsuit against the car magnate who had published his book "The International Jew".

    Sokolov's book "The Murder of the Tsar's Family" was published in Berlin in 1925 without the aforementioned information. These facts were made public only in 1939, in the exile periodical Tsarsky Vestnik. Jacob Schiff s role in those murders was described in Russia only in 1990.

    The above revealing and extremely dangerous information about the REAL perpetrators of Communism is probably the main reason that "Under the Sign of the Scorpion" is so heavily suppressed, as not possible to buy in book-shops and sabotaged by Amazon.com by a high price (today $157:95). Not only the book, but also its author is suppressed.

    Jyri Lina, a former Estonian who now lives in 'liberal' Sweden, has found that freedom of expression, at least for him, has a very limited value. He's now again facing the situation of having to hold secret underground lectures for small groups, as in his 'old' days in Soviet-Estonia, before the KGB gave him the option to emigrate or go to KGB-prison.

    In US, the book can be ordered from Texe Marrs or in Canada from Reino Trass. This book, as well as other books and films by the author, can also be ordered directly from the author.

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    http://www.henrymakow.com/jacob_schi...murder_of.html

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    THAT JEWS MURDERED THE RUSSIAN ROYAL FAMILY was the greatest travesty beside the crucifixion of Jesus Christ in the history of mankind.

    The Russian Imperial Family of Tzar Nicholas II were pious Orthodox Christians. They exemplified all that is precious in a family, namely, Christian piety and love for one’s neighbor.

    But the Anti-Christ Jews murdered this preciousness! From then on the world has witnessed and felt the effects of the decline of the family - the staple of an ethical, Christian society. But Anti-Christian Jews, like Jacob Schiff, Chairman of Kuhn & Loeb Bank, who financed the Bolshevik Revolution, have wreaked their destruction on Christian civilization.

    It was this Jew, Jacob Schiff, who brought Leon Trotsky (born “Lev Bronstein”) to New York in February 1916. Trotsky recruited Russian Jews from New York’s Russian Jewish immigrant population in the Lower East Side of Manhattan and trained them as revolutionaries.

    On March 27 1917, Trotsky and his 300 well-trained Jewish communists from Manhattan’s Lower East Side, boarded the Norwegian steamer “Kristianiafjord” for a journey that brought them to St. Petersburg in Russia.

    Their purpose was to establish a Marxist government under the leadership of Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin. Before departing, Jacob Schiff gave this group $20 million in gold.

    THE ROYAL FAMILY FLEES & PURSUED BY JEWISH COMMUNISTS

    With support from inside the Social Democratic party and many of the Jewish-run soviets, Lenin, joined by Trotsky from New York, gained the upper hand over the Kerensky government.

    In August of 1917, the Russian Royal Family fled to Tobolsk in Siberia. They stayed at the Governors House until April 1918. They hoped to escape to England where King George V, a Romanov cousin, would hopefully grant them refuge. But he refused due to pressure from Jewish groups.

    On April 22 1918, the Jew, Jacob Sverdlov, first President of the Soviet Union, sent his aide, the Jew, Yankel Yakovlev, to Tobolsk to persuade Tzar Nicholas II to agree to sanction the Brest-Litovsk peace treaty. Tzar Nicholas refused for he considered the treaty an ‘eternal disgrace to Russia.’ He did though agree to return to Moscow as he was told that the Germans were willing to grant him asylum.

    They got as far as Ekaterinburg in the Urals where the train was halted by the Regional Soviets dominated by four Jews, Goloshchekin, Safarov, Voikov and Syromolotov. These four communist Jews appointed the Jew, Jacob Yurovsky, son of a local Jewish ex-convict, as the head the local Cheka (Soviet Secret Police) in Ekaterinburg. Yurovsky was given the assignment to imprison, plan, and carry out, the assassination of the Russian Royal Family.

    The Jew Yurovsky brought the Russian Royal Family to a former house of a wealthy Jewish merchant named Ipatiev, now made into a prison for the Tzar and his family. It should be noted that Ekaterinburg, named after named after St Catherine the Great, was renamed “Sverdlovsk” in 1924 in honor of Jacob Sverdlov who gave the final order to execute the Russian Royal Family.

    On July 4 1918, the Jew Yurovsky dismissed all the Russian soldiers who were guarding the Tzar except for a Pavel Medvedev, a Cheka Jewish spy. Yurovsky replaced the loyal-to-the-Tzar Russian soldiers with Jewish communist assassins from Hungary. That they were Jewish communists from Hungary, their scribbling on the walls indicated.

    On July 15 1918, two representatives from the Soviet Extraordinary Commission, one of them being the Jew, Philip Golochtchekine, came to the Ipatiev house with an order from the Jew Jacob Yurovsky to execute the Russian Royal Family.

    On July 17 1918, about midnight, the Jew Yurovsky brought Tzar & Tzarina Nicholas and Alexandra, and their four daughters, the maid, the doctor, the cook, and the waiter to the basement. The Tzar carried the heir Alexei in his arms. They were told that they were to pose for a group picture. The Jewish assassins, Medvedev, Nikulin, Yermakov, Vaganov, were waiting. Medvedev claimed that he was outside at the time of the execution as his guilty conscience shamed his tongue into lying.

    The Jew Yurovsky then pulled out his revolver and pointed it directly at the Tsar’s head and fired. Tzar Nicholas II died instantly. Next, he shot Tzarina Alexandra as she made the sign of the Cross. Olga, Tatiana, Maria, and Anastasia, were shot next. Demidova, the maid, survived the first volley, so the Jewish Cheka assassins decided to bayonet her 30 times.

    As the room became silent there was a low groan. Alexei was still in the arms of the Tsar and alive. The Jew Yurovsky stepped up and fired two shots into the boy’s ear. All the members of the Tsar’s family were lying on the floor with many wounds in their bodies. The blood was running in streams.




    EDIT

    APOLOGIES AS THE LINK TO THIS ARTICLE DID NOT COPY INTO THIS ARTICLE BUT THE VIDEO OF HIS DID.

    THIS ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN BY BROTHER NATHENAEL who was a Jewish Rabbi and converted to Christanity upon studying the history of the Jewish people. He now is a student of the unspoken history of the Jews and the crimes against humanity over the centuries. This is history, we must speak about history whether it is the Jews, the Chinese, the germans, the catholic church, the reptitians, whoever etc.

    THE LINK TO THIS STORY -
    http://www.realjewnews.com/
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    Default Re: Jacob Schiff Ordered Czar Nicholas II's Murder

    Yikes! I'm guessing that this site doesnt draw a lot of Jews.

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    @loveandgratitude: Interesting choice of a name for someone that just spewed anti-semitic horse****.

    Big difference between Zionists (i:e-bankers, the Israeli government) and plain 'ol Jews.

    This place has obviously been invaded by shills.

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    Quote Posted by Humble Janitor (here)
    @loveandgratitude: Interesting choice of a name for someone that just spewed anti-semitic horse****.

    Big difference between Zionists (i:e-bankers, the Israeli government) and plain 'ol Jews.

    This place has obviously been invaded by shills.
    Did you think to ask if that was maybe, just maybe, a repost of info?
    It looks like an article from someones site to me.

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    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    Did you think to ask if that was maybe, just maybe, a repost of info?
    It looks like an article from someones site to me.
    The earliest copy I can find of loveandgratitude's Post #2 is at http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=109, dated April 2008.
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    You might agree that a poster who recycle information from other sources should at least inform his readers that it is the case, and eventually point them to the said source. As is, the information posted does reflect a truly anti-semitic flavor. It could have been well thought to at least aknowledge or not the content. To lump together judaism and zionism is a mistake often made. It is not only unfair to the jew community at large who, by far, are not all zionists; the argument that anti-zionism equals anti-semitism is widely used by the media, politics and organizations in order to automatically cut discussions off.
    That said, without regard for the anti-semitic tone of the article, I found it interesting. Thanks
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    We should ask the remaining part of the Tsar family (cousins) what is the inside story for what truly happened then, what are the grapevine stories. The Troubetskoy family is sitill alive and well.

    From my ex husband side, some great uncles had work in the Tsar army as high officers. Let me tell you that the whole family, cousins, aunts, oncles, etc were relentlessly pursued, killed or sent to goulags. What confound me is that they were from similar origins as the Khazars from which many Ashkenazi Jews are coming from. Why destroy extended family, be my guest.

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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    Did you think to ask if that was maybe, just maybe, a repost of info?
    It looks like an article from someones site to me.
    The earliest copy I can find of loveandgratitude's Post #2 is at http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=109, dated April 2008.
    That explains it then.
    Nathaniel Kapner is a jewish convert and doesn't pull his punches, hence the terminology.

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    Quote Posted by jjl (here)
    Yikes! I'm guessing that this site doesnt draw a lot of Jews.
    You're right. Here's one Jew that has never seen as much anti-semitism as I see here. No need to respond to my post, this is an argument that can never be won. Feelings are too deep on both sides of this issue and minds will never be changed based on anything written here. It's very sad.

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    Quote Posted by Humble Janitor (here)
    @loveandgratitude: Interesting choice of a name for someone that just spewed anti-semitic horse****.

    Big difference between Zionists (i:e-bankers, the Israeli government) and plain 'ol Jews.

    This place has obviously been invaded by shills.
    As you can see, Humble Janitor, hate flourishes even amongst "enlightened" people.

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    Quote Posted by GCS1103 (here)
    Quote Posted by Humble Janitor (here)
    @loveandgratitude: Interesting choice of a name for someone that just spewed anti-semitic horse****.

    Big difference between Zionists (i:e-bankers, the Israeli government) and plain 'ol Jews.

    This place has obviously been invaded by shills.
    As you can see, Humble Janitor, hate flourishes even amongst "enlightened" people.
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    TRUTH IS NOT ALWAYS BEAUTIFUL AND PRETTY. SOMETIMES IT IS UGLY AND HORRIFIC BUT NEEDS TO BE TOLD.

    CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY NEED TO BE REVEALED AND NOT SWEPTED UNDER THE CARPET TO HIDE IN THE DARK.

    THE MURDER OF MILLIONS IN RUSSIA IS ONE OF THOSE CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY THAT IS HIDDEN AWAY AND NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT IN THE LIGHT OF DAY.


    THIS IS NOT ABOUT HATE OR ANTI-SEMANTIC. BY THE WAY - SEMANTIC PEOPLE ARE PERSONS speaking one of a group of related languages, presumably derived from a common language, Semitic (see Semitic languages). The term came to include Arabs, Akkadians, Canaanites, some Ethiopians, and Aramaean tribes including Hebrews. Semitic tribes migrated from the Arabian Peninsula, beginning c. 2500 bc, to the Mediterranean coast, Mesopotamia, and the Nile River delta. In Phoenicia, they became seafarers. In Mesopotamia, they blended with the civilization of Sumer. The Hebrews settled at last with other Semites in Palestine. Today they also include Iraq, Iran.

    THE BOLSHEVIK JEWS WHO PLOTTED THE UKRAINIAN HOLOCAUST in which about 100 million Ukrain and Russian people were murdered.
    Was hate the motivator of this crime against humanity.


    1) Lazar Kaganovich: Stalin’s political figurehead of the Central Committee. In 1928, Kaganovich led the implementation in the Ukraine of Stalin’s first Five-Year Plan.

    ~ The aim of Stalin’s first Five-Year Plan in the Ukraine was to destroy family farms through starvation making the peasants “landless” and thereby introducing “collectivization” by which the Ukrainian peasants were forced to become employees of the state. This forced-famine reached its crises point in 1932.

    2) Genrikh Yagoda: Founder of the NKVD (Soviet Secret Police). Assisted in the first Five-Year Plan of starving Ukrainian peasants.

    3) Nikolai Yezhov: Appointed by Yagoda as Head of the NKVD. Assisted in the first Five-Year Plan of starving Ukrainian peasants. (Yezhov took on a “Russian” name like most Bolshevik Jews. His wife was an active Jew).

    These Bolshevik Jews seized livestock, crops, grain, and farm implements from the Ukrainian peasants. Any Ukrainian citizen who resisted them was shot. Desperate Ukrainian clergy and peasants ate anything to survive: bugs, grass, and leather shoes.
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    Default Re: Jacob Schiff Ordered Czar Nicholas II's Murder

    Wasn't the Schiff family related to the Bush Family?

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    JACOB SCHIFF - Cousin of George Bush [actually George Scherf].
    Grand son married to Al Gore's daughter.
    Wikipedia fails to mention he funded Lenin, and his meeting with the Japanese emperor.


    Jacob Schiff was the Jewish New York City banker and traitor to America
    who financed the communist revolution in Russia in 1917.

    Jacob Schiff gave $20 Million Dollars in Gold (worth Five Hundred
    Million, $500,000,000.00, in 1999 dollars) to LEVI BRAUNSTEIN, also known as
    Trotsky, and Vladimir Ilich Blanc Ulanyoff, also known as Lenin.

    They used this money to turn Russia into a terrifying communist
    slave state. The communist revolution resulted in a bloody holocaust of over
    100 MILLION DEAD White men and Women which no one seems to want to
    remember or talk about.


    Hollywood has never made one movie about this Christian Holocaust. Why? If
    you want to know more about the history of the communist take
    over or Russian and the millions who were slaughtered, I urge you to
    purchase Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's book THE GULAG ARCHIPELAGO.

    Vice President Al Gore Jr. is the son of former United States
    Senator Al Gore Sr, whose major benefactor was Armand Heimer [aka Hammer],
    who in turn was the son of Dr. Julius Heimer [aka Hammer], founder of the
    American Communist Party. See article below for more information on the Red
    Communist sympathizer Armand Hammer.

    To this day Al Gore Jr. presents the "prestigious" HAMMER award
    for Government Efficiency.


    http://www.fathersmanifesto.net/schiff.htm

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    Sorry, I still cannot embed videos but here is a link to No.1 of 6 parts of a speech by the courageous Norman Finkelstein which forum members may find interesting.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=J6l7A...eature=related

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    Quote Posted by w1ndmill (here)
    Sorry, I still cannot embed videos but here is a link to No.1 of 6 parts of a speech by the courageous Norman Finkelstein which forum members may find interesting.
    This should do it.

    Norman G. Finkelstein, Political Activist and Author, speaks about his new book titled "A Farewell to Israel: The coming break-up of American Zionism."

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    Quote Posted by loveandgratitude (here)
    TRUTH IS NOT ALWAYS BEAUTIFUL AND PRETTY. SOMETIMES IT IS UGLY AND HORRIFIC BUT NEEDS TO BE TOLD.

    CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY NEED TO BE REVEALED AND NOT SWEPTED UNDER THE CARPET TO HIDE IN THE DARK.

    THE MURDER OF MILLIONS IN RUSSIA IS ONE OF THOSE CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY THAT IS HIDDEN AWAY AND NEEDS TO
    BE LOOKED AT IN THE LIGHT OF DAY.

    THIS IS NOT ABOUT HATE OR ANTI-SEMANTIC. BY THE WAY - SEMANTIC PEOPLE ARE PERSONS speaking one of a group of related languages, presumably derived from a common language, Semitic (see Semitic languages). The term came to include Arabs, Akkadians, Canaanites, some Ethiopians, and Aramaean tribes including Hebrews. Semitic tribes migrated from the Arabian Peninsula, beginning c. 2500 bc, to the Mediterranean coast, Mesopotamia, and the Nile River delta. In Phoenicia, they became seafarers. In Mesopotamia, they blended with the civilization of Sumer. The Hebrews settled at last with other Semites in Palestine. Today they also include Iraq, Iran.

    THE BOLSHEVIK JEWS WHO PLOTTED THE UKRAINIAN HOLOCAUST in which about 100 million Ukrain and Russian people were murdered.
    Was hate the motivator of this crime against humanity.

    1) Lazar Kaganovich: Stalin’s political figurehead of the Central Committee. In 1928, Kaganovich led the implementation in the Ukraine of Stalin’s first Five-Year Plan.

    ~ The aim of Stalin’s first Five-Year Plan in the Ukraine was to destroy family farms through starvation making the peasants “landless” and thereby introducing “collectivization” by which the Ukrainian peasants were forced to become employees of the state. This forced-famine reached its crises point in 1932.

    2) Genrikh Yagoda: Founder of the NKVD (Soviet Secret Police). Assisted in the first Five-Year Plan of starving Ukrainian peasants.

    3) Nikolai Yezhov: Appointed by Yagoda as Head of the NKVD. Assisted in the first Five-Year Plan of starving Ukrainian peasants. (Yezhov took on a “Russian” name like most Bolshevik Jews. His wife was an active Jew).

    These Bolshevik Jews seized livestock, crops, grain, and farm implements from the Ukrainian peasants. Any Ukrainian citizen who resisted them was shot. Desperate Ukrainian clergy and peasants ate anything to survive: bugs, grass, and leather shoes.
    I sent you a private message in response to yours. You know my feelings about these posts; there is no need for me to respond here. How about starting a thread about the concentration camps and what was done to the Jews? You seem to be very interested in "crimes against humanity". What better example than that? That's a thread I can add to- I can send you some photos of my Aunt when she was in her 20's, bald, emaciated and a numbered tatoo on her hand which she still has to this day. Would you have any interest in that???

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    TRUTH IS NOT ALWAYS BEAUTIFUL AND PRETTY. SOMETIMES IT IS UGLY AND HORRIFIC BUT NEEDS TO BE TOLD.

    CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY NEED TO BE REVEALED AND NOT SWEPTED UNDER THE CARPET TO HIDE IN THE DARK.

    THE MURDER OF MILLIONS IN RUSSIA IS ONE OF THOSE CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY THAT IS HIDDEN AWAY AND NEEDS TO
    BE LOOKED AT IN THE LIGHT OF DAY.

    THIS IS NOT ABOUT HATE OR ANTI-SEMANTIC. BY THE WAY - SEMANTIC PEOPLE ARE PERSONS speaking one of a group of related languages, presumably derived from a common language, Semitic (see Semitic languages). The term came to include Arabs, Akkadians, Canaanites, some Ethiopians, and Aramaean tribes including Hebrews. Semitic tribes migrated from the Arabian Peninsula, beginning c. 2500 bc, to the Mediterranean coast, Mesopotamia, and the Nile River delta. In Phoenicia, they became seafarers. In Mesopotamia, they blended with the civilization of Sumer. The Hebrews settled at last with other Semites in Palestine. Today they also include Iraq, Iran.

    THE BOLSHEVIK JEWS WHO PLOTTED THE UKRAINIAN HOLOCAUST in which about 100 million Ukrain and Russian people were murdered.
    Was hate the motivator of this crime against humanity.

    1) Lazar Kaganovich: Stalin’s political figurehead of the Central Committee. In 1928, Kaganovich led the implementation in the Ukraine of Stalin’s first Five-Year Plan.

    ~ The aim of Stalin’s first Five-Year Plan in the Ukraine was to destroy family farms through starvation making the peasants “landless” and thereby introducing “collectivization” by which the Ukrainian peasants were forced to become employees of the state. This forced-famine reached its crises point in 1932.

    2) Genrikh Yagoda: Founder of the NKVD (Soviet Secret Police). Assisted in the first Five-Year Plan of starving Ukrainian peasants.

    3) Nikolai Yezhov: Appointed by Yagoda as Head of the NKVD. Assisted in the first Five-Year Plan of starving Ukrainian peasants. (Yezhov took on a “Russian” name like most Bolshevik Jews. His wife was an active Jew).

    These Bolshevik Jews seized livestock, crops, grain, and farm implements from the Ukrainian peasants. Any Ukrainian citizen who resisted them was shot. Desperate Ukrainian clergy and peasants ate anything to survive: bugs, grass, and leather shoes.
    I sent you a private message in response to yours. You know my feelings about these posts; there is no need for me to respond here. How about starting a thread about the concentration camps and what was done to the Jews? You seem to be very interested in "crimes against humanity". What better example than that? That's a thread I can add to- I can send you some photos of my Aunt when she was in her 20's, bald, emaciated and a numbered tatoo on her hand which she still has to this day. Would you have any interest in that???
    Gentiles do not need any more photos of what happened to a small portion of humanity during the genocidal convulsions of the 20th century. Our media has saturated us with them. It began with the Bolshevik revolution and basically continued until Cambodia and their 'killing fields'.
    As is now coming to light the number of gentiles murdered in these convulsions in is the many tens of millions.

    The future, where we can all treat each other with respect, lies before us. Will we seize it as a human collective or will small pockets of us still cling to concepts of 'choseness' whereby they separate themselves off from the sea of humanity that surrounds them?

    Gilad Atzmon is an Israeli who writes eloquently, passionately and unflinchingly in the way many a 'self-hating jew' has seen fit to do in an attempt to have a future where we all embrace one another.

    The 'self-hating gentiles' are throwing off the blanket of a history carefully edited for their consumption and a seething anger is reaching a boiling point. Gilad Atzmon and others have seen this and are wisely appealing to the the better sensibilities of the gentiles (the rest of humanity that is not jewish) with the sunlight of a more complete version of history.

    Here is a recent posting from Gilad, July,6 2011.http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/gila...s-overdue.html

    The only safe future for any of us is one that eschews any special interest groups and especially ones based on guilt.
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    Default Re: Jacob Schiff Ordered Czar Nicholas II's Murder

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    @loveandgratitude: Interesting choice of a name for someone that just spewed anti-semitic horse****.

    Big difference between Zionists (i:e-bankers, the Israeli government) and plain 'ol Jews.

    This place has obviously been invaded by shills.
    As you can see, Humble Janitor, hate flourishes even amongst "enlightened" people.
    Did you see this thread?
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...s-madness-NOW-
    My friend, you and I agree on many things, this is not one of them. We could not be more diametrically opposed to a belief. I have yet to see a post that points out what was done to the Jews in the 1930's and 40's and the inhumanity of it all. Did I miss that one? Maybe I am a little more invested in this aspect, as I have relatives that still have their numbers tatooed into their hands. I have heard the stories first hand, not from a book.

    I am not talking about "Zionist bankers, etc". I am talking about everyday, normal people who work, pay bills, care about their families and try to get through life, just like everyone else. They just happen to be Jews. These are the Jews that have been persecuted under the guise of "you're a Jew so you must be a rich banker" The lines have become blurred between the powerful Zionist interests and the everyday man and woman who are no different than anyone else here except that they are Jews. Do you not see what is happening to these people, myself included? We have been demonized for no other reason than the fact that we are Jewish. We are not part of the Zionist conspiracy, we are not rich bankers manipulating the world economy- we are the average man and woman going to work and living our lives like everyone else.

    What was done in those extermination camps is part of history too. Why is that never discussed on this forum, other than to expound upon the belief that it was embellished. In a few years when all survivors are gone, I expect to see a "rewrite" of this period that it never existed.

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