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    Default Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

    now notice since I first pointed it out how it is no longer affecting the earth side Sat, but dark energy count remains in the same cycle...

    can anyone say...

    intervention...

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    Default Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

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    That can't be! Acoustic waves can NOT travel to the moon and come back, simply because there is no medium (air) which can transmit them.

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    Well, I'm no scientist. You might wanna ask those guys for clarification.

    I know whatever sound they "sent" there, bounced off and registered in their equipment as a hollow object. The feedback they got was that.

    If you have any other ideas on how to determine if the object is artificial, I'm all ears (eyes I mean).

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    Default Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

    Quote Posted by truthseekerdan (here)
    Hi folks, more info...

    This video is complete scientific BS! He does not even know the basic features of a photon. All these supposed effects are read out of a cup of cold morning coffee.
    The guy is actually funny.
    He says:"Location and tracking ELENIN does not require a large telescope" and then all you can see
    are pictures made by Google SKY and JPL.

    TSD: You and this guy are doing exactly what TPTB wants you to do: Scare, Scare, Scare

    Who ever has eyes to see and a brain to think should do it.
    The rest can follow the piper.
    Enough said.


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    Default Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

    Quote Posted by truthseekerdan (here)
    There are many signs that nobody can deny (unless likes to live in denial).

    I watched only the first 15 seconds of the video and have a question:

    Please explain REASONABLY how a Brown Dwarf far, far away can kill birds here on Earth ?

    Was it the Death ray of the Annunaki?


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    Default Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

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    One question might be that if this is indeed accurate how long are they going to be able to keep a lid on this from the mainstream media and if/when it breaks what then...
    No need for a lid. THEY are creating it. This scare tactic will seep slowly into MSN and we will say: See, we told you before!
    Anyhow, THEY might announce the Alien False Flag soon, and TSD will explain why it is exactly so.

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    Please explain REASONABLY how a Brown Dwarf far, far away can kill birds here on Earth ?

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    naaa that was the Thorium in the chemtrails that created anti-matter bursts...

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    Default Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

    Quote Posted by bashi (here)
    JPL data has been used to create the scare and to prove that Elenin must be a Brown Dwarf. If you question now the data, then you question ANY discussion.
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    Yes, maybe I do ... as longs as we don't anchor our discussion on data points we can trust the discussion will go anywhere.
    Currently we're floating all around videos like Mr. A says this, Mr. B thinks that etc. ... So the discussion will not come to a conclusion (soon anyway).

    Edit: I am not only questioning the data now ... I have questioned it many times before
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    Default Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

    scare tactics from a little old space rock?

    Quote Attack On Japan, US Linked To ‘Alien Whale Race’ Nearing Earth
    Quote By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers


    Even worse, this report goes on to claim that the catastrophic 11March 2011 Tōhoku Earthquake and Tsunami, that left Japan with over 30,000 dead, wounded and missing, and causing the worst nuclear disaster in modern human history, was, ‘without any doubt’, also, caused by this mysterious ‘alien whale race’.

    The ‘method of attack’ employed by this ‘alien whale race’ against Japan, this report continues, was the ‘super-heating’ of the Earth’s ionosphere above the Pacific Plate subduction zone near northern Honshu causing it to rupture in a staggeringly large area estimated to be 500 km in length (310 mi) with a width of 200 km (120 mi) which unleashed a 9.0 magnitude super-quake and a tsunami said to have been over 100 meters in height.

    Dimitar Ouzounov from the United States NASA Goddard Space Flight Centre in Maryland, and his team, utilizing France’s DEMETER Satellite, confirmed the findings of Russian scientists in this report after their finding that in the days prior to the Great Tōhoku Earthquake and Tsunami the atmosphere over Japan did indeed heat to levels never before seen. [photo 2nd left]

    To why Japan and the US would be specifically targeted by this ‘alien whale race’ appears to lie in new evidence linking these two nations to a ‘secret whaling plot’ discovered in the WikiLeaks release of American documents that would allow the Japanese to begin ‘harvesting’ whales off of their coast.link

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    Default Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

    Quote Posted by truthseekerdan (here)
    More mysteries explained in this great documentary. An old goodie, also recommended for Bashi to watch.

    Nice vid! Yes Sri Yukteshwar said a cycle is 24000 years and not, as stated mostly 25600 years.
    Good that they now found out that he was right in the first place.

    We are talking here about ELENIN and the "proof" that it is a BD, isn`t it?
    We are not discussing whether our system is binary in general.
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    Default Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

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    Quote Posted by bashi (here)
    That can't be! Acoustic waves can NOT travel to the moon and come back, simply because there is no medium (air) which can transmit them.

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    Well, I'm no scientist. You might wanna ask those guys for clarification.

    I know whatever sound they "sent" there, bounced off and registered in their equipment as a hollow object. The feedback they got was that.

    If you have any other ideas on how to determine if the object is artificial, I'm all ears (eyes I mean).
    Well, with your connections, lets consider this idea:
    We fly there together and have a closer look personally.
    What do you think? Promise, i will not faint.


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    JPL data has been used to create the scare and to prove that Elenin must be a Brown Dwarf. If you question now the data, then you question ANY discussion.
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    Yes, maybe I do ... as longs as we don't anchor our discussion on data points we can trust the discussion will go anywhere.
    Currently we're floating all around videos like Mr. A says this, Mr. B thinks that etc. ... So the discussion will not come to a conclusion (soon anyway).

    Edit: I am not only questioning the data now ... I have questioned it many times before
    maybe you can dig into my first 2 posts...

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    Default Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

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    Well, with your connections, lets consider this idea:
    We fly there together and have a closer look personally.
    What do you think? Promise, i will not faint.
    If I was in the mood for joking, I'd go to the off-topic section of the forum.

    A serious topic requires a serious attitude.

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    Quote Posted by bashi (here)
    Well, with your connections, lets consider this idea:
    We fly there together and have a closer look personally.
    What do you think? Promise, i will not faint.
    If I was in the mood for joking, I'd go to the off-topic section of the forum.

    A serious topic requires a serious attitude.

    OK, lets get serious again. :
    Well, i stated and proved that Elenin is very likely natural as it behaves naturally..
    You stated that its artificial and when i asked for proof, you passed the buck back to me.
    So what made you think it is artificial?


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    Default Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

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    maybe you can dig into my first 2 posts...
    Hi, I did ...

    Quote Posted by bashi
    Anyhow, i noticed that the current orbit of Elenin displayed is very different than the orbit displayed a month ago.
    I am not sure here ... did you mean the 'JPL' data was different one month later ?

    How do they determine such an exact orbit anyway if it is so far away and at least so difficult to spot that only one out of many (amateur) astronomers finds it by sheer coincidence ?

    I have no clue which direction you are leaning toward yourself now ...

    1. It's just a comet, it's natural, it's all a non-event
    2. It's a bogus event, all cooked by JPL ...
    3. Something else ...

    I have stated in another post (can't remember where) that 2 is possible since Wernher von Braun predicted it and it looks like
    we are hurdling to a fake alien attack also. Chronologically the asteroid threats would come first. Besides Elenin there is also
    still Honda on the menu for this year.

    English is not my native language, maybe I missed some details to get a clear picture what you are saying.

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    Quote Posted by OnyxKnight (here)
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    Well, with your connections, lets consider this idea:
    We fly there together and have a closer look personally.
    What do you think? Promise, i will not faint.
    If I was in the mood for joking, I'd go to the off-topic section of the forum.

    A serious topic requires a serious attitude.

    OK, lets get serious again. :
    Well, i stated and proved that Elenin is very likely natural as it behaves naturally..
    You stated that its artificial and when i asked for proof, you passed the buck back to me.
    So what made you think it is artificial?


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    One of my contacts said that the 'it' should drop something here and continue on its way.

    BTW, our Moon looks natural too. Doesn't make it so, does it?

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    Default Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

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    Quote Posted by bashi (here)
    maybe you can dig into my first 2 posts...
    Hi, I did ...

    Quote Posted by bashi
    Anyhow, i noticed that the current orbit of Elenin displayed is very different than the orbit displayed a month ago.
    I am not sure here ... did you mean the 'JPL' data was different one month later ?

    How do they determine such an exact orbit anyway if it is so far away and at least so difficult to spot that only one out of many (amateur) astronomers finds it by sheer coincidence ?

    I have no clue which direction you are leaning toward yourself now ...

    1. It's just a comet, it's natural, it's all a non-event
    2. It's a bogus event, all cooked by JPL ...
    3. Something else ...

    I have stated in another post (can't remember where) that 2 is possible since Wernher von Braun predicted it and it looks like
    we are hurdling to a fake alien attack also. Chronologically the asteroid threats would come first. Besides Elenin there is also
    still Honda on the menu for this year.

    English is not my native language, maybe I missed some details to get a clear picture what you are saying.
    I actually meant my first 2 posts from yesterday.

    You are correct, it is not easy to determine an orbit. So the first orbit-calculation was a kind of preliminary one, with a lot of uncertainty. Later, as more measuring points were available, they corrected the orbit.

    Some astronomers are better, busier and luckier than others; and someone has to be the first.

    Its nr. 1 - in my opinion.
    But a hype is created like in a false alien flag. A lot of professional effort and resources has been used to misguide people who can not judge, as they do not have a scientific background. The rest is done by internet-dynamics.

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    Default Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

    Quote Posted by bashi (here)
    The rest is done by internet-dynamics.
    Right, I think so too. I don't mind to speculate (a lot). Fantasy and imagination keeps one young at heart.
    But all too often lots of people 'jump' to conclusions while they forget that it is all based on speculation.

    Even in court guilt cannot be proven unless there is irrefutable evidence. Until that time innocence has to be assumed.
    I have not seen any irrefutable evidence in this case.

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    Default Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

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    One of my contacts said that the 'it' should drop something here and continue on its way.

    BTW, our Moon looks natural too. Doesn't make it so, does it?
    The US sounded the moon and they got s- and p-waves back for a certain thickness and only p-waves for areas deeper than that. That indicated a very solid top crust, then a solid shell and a "jelly" core. Thats the "standard" version.
    I heard there were certain anomalies...
    They had seismic recording stations which picked up periodic signals. These stations were broadcasting the results back to Earth and everybody could listen to it. So they installed a mirror on the moon, switched of the stations and use a laser-beam now. Modern interferometry makes it possible to hear the Greys on the other side drop a spanner, while nobody else can eavesdrop...

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    Default Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

    Thank you, Bashi.

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    Default Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

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    Quote Posted by jack (here)
    Quote Posted by The Truth Is In There (here)
    if elenin is the blue star kachina then what is the red star kachina? i mean, if "elenin" is not planet x and yet was responsible for the earthquakes in chile, new zealand and japan when it aligned with earth and the sun it has to be a gigantic object. i don't see how this could be the blue star (= the precursor) and not the red star (= the destroyer). honestly, if it did cause those earthquakes at that distance it has to be the destroyer. but at least calleman is right about his calendar end date, september/october will be one hell of a climax.
    Hey there the truth is in there.

    Something you might find of interest ;



    This is comet holmes after it exploded in 2007 to become the largest object in our solar system, with a diameter even larger then our sun.

    This could be refered to as the blue star kachina simply due to its overwhelming size and luminosity. Of this im not sure, but it definitly seems a likely candidate.
    This is my take as well. Holmes was the BK, what is coming in the Fall is the RK

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    Quote Posted by Operator (here)
    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    my concern with Elinin is that we don't know if it's orbit is going to be disturbed via passage through or near the asteroid belt. OK. I just checked, it has passed through the asteroid belt.
    Here's something else to consider ...
    What if the orbit is disturbed by one of the inner planets, or worse earths orbit is influenced by it's passage.
    If it indeed is big (i.e. a brown dwarf, or mini solar system) we might get sucked into a new solar system taking us out of here ...

    I know it sounds far fetched but this thought was triggered by the fact that the applet of JPL just let's everything continue after the passage.
    Maybe it still is a small comet and the applet is correct ... but the alignments tend to point in another direction.
    This happening would be the biggest thing EVER to have happened to mankind (and maybe the Earth too). IT must be massive and it IS going to be very close to us. I see the possibility.

    I wonder how close it came 3600 yrs ago and 7200 yrs ago? It didn't snatch us then but maybe it was farther away when it swung by?[COLOR="red"]
    What i'd also love to know is how all of them highly advanced cities which we are now finding underwater come to their bizzare end in some cases submerged at a depth of more than half a mile on the ocean floor.




    A lot of these places look like the ancient wonders we see in egypt even ones which lie worlds away. Most seem to centralise their structural significance around large pyramids which are seen all over the world, so many which had remained invisible to us in the past covered up by the fertile landscape but recent technologies using radar has started a trend of discovery which doesnt seem to be slowing down. What did these people know about pyramids that we dont. And what happened to such a seemingly advanced civilisation which they could not prevent.

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    Default Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!

    Hi All
    I just got this and read it from Kerrys blog on Camelot, and if this is true and I think it is, then the ELENIN affect on earth are Bu££$hit, YOU MUST READ. http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/fukushima.html

    regards to all
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