The Importance of Vitamin C

[Mike]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by The Abundant Traveler (here)
Thank you for this thread on vitamin C. There is an even MORE pressing shortage for us all in the form of POTASSIUM

The United States Food & Drug Administration (FDA) limits over-the-counter potassium supplements to 99 mg per serving. This amounts to 2.8% of the FDA's own recommended daily allowance (RDA). So you'd have to take 35 pver-the-counter potassium pills per day to reach even the typically low FDA RDA for potassium.

I take C-Salts, available online from Wholesale Nutrition. A single teaspoon of this powder contains 4 grams of Vitamin C and 365 mg of potassium. I take other forms of Vitamin C (including liposomal) and other potassium supplements as well. Before I found C-Salts, I was making my own potassium capsules, putting potassium gluconate or potassium bicarbonate powder in 00 caps, in order to get around the damn FDA limits.

i had to get a little creative too. for a while i was stirring Nu-Salt ( a potassium salt substitute) into orange juice. this was effective but gave me horrible reflux, as you can imagine. i've since replaced it with brewers yeast - 2 heaping spoonfulls in yogurt will give you almost 1000mg potassium. pretty cheap too.

[Mike]

Posted by seko (here)
One of the best sources of Vitamin C is Capsaicin. You have to eat fresh chillies. Salsas.

http://chilly.in/chilli_benefits.htm

cayenne pepper(capsaicin) is also wonderful for cardiovascular health. i'd suggest the cult classic 'Left For Dead' by Dick Quinn. the book describes his horrifying and ineffective experience with bypass surgery, and details his eventual recovery with cayenne pepper capsules (this book may be hard to find. if anyone is interested, i'd be happy to mail them my copy)

there are also some very powerful cayenne tinctures (i suggest the Dr. Christopher or Dr. Schulze brand). tinctures can also be made at home. instructions to do this are all over the internet. cayenne is known to stop heart attacks right in their tracks. no coincidence that is commonly known as "the king of the herbs" amongst the world's foremost herbalists.

[Dawn]

The film you posted 'Food Matters' has been on my 'to watch' list but I hadn't gotten to it yet. Thank you for putting it here. I have to say however, that after watching it .... there seems to be an intentional piece of information left out. In discussing the Japanese diet (rich in seafood & sea vegetables) which seems to result in a cancer free population... the film walked all around the central and key issue. The issue is IODINE! Breasts in a woman store more iodine than the thyroid, and in a man the prostate gland stores iodine. What does seafood & sea vegetables have more of than almost any other source? IODINE! In fact breast cancer can be 'cured' with iodine supplementation. Here is a very good book to read to understand the magnitude of IODINE starvation across the US (where 99% of people are deficient): Iodine, Why You Need It, Why You Can't Live Without It by David Brownstein, M.D. The information in here will change your life.

[Dawn]

A good way to take Potassium when you are first climbing back to health after a life of not having enough is to simply stir a teaspoon full of Potassium Gluconate into a glass of water 2x daily. If the slightly bitter taste bothers you, try reducing the dose. Within a few days your body will reward you by actually recognizing the taste as 'delicious' since it has the ability to realize how much help is in the glass. Stirring it into juice works too. The potassium tablets offered are WAY below what the body needs. Potassium Gluconate is easy to purchase at any health food store or on line. I happen to have purchased a bottle of these crystals under the brand name "NOW" for a very inexpensive price.

[Mike Gorman]

Thanks very much for this thread, I have always thought our general diet is lacking is Vt C, but importanly also
we as a civilization are mostly all suffering from Vitamin D3 deficiency, 2 years ago i was experiencing
fatigue, I could not get out of a chair without effort, and my teeth started to deteriorate . A blood test
revealed a severe D3 deficiency -i embarked on a supplement course for 6 months, and like magic I
began to feel my old strength and vigor return. So this is a head-up, Vitamin C & D3 and you'll never get Flu (including Swine and Avian)
or head colds I guarantee !!

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Chinaski (here)
i've since replaced it with brewers yeast - 2 heaping spoonfulls in yogurt will give you almost 1000mg potassium. pretty cheap too.

Brewer's Yeast - good idea - thanks. I used to take that a while back, and had forgotten about it.

[Trail]

I finaly created my own liposomal vic C thanks to Paul and the video instructions presented Thanks!

Don't think i'm in a hurry to create more though. I don't like the oily taste the soy-lecitine leaves behind in my mouth i guess..

Any tips on the best types of juices to mix that with so it might taste better?

~Trail.

[Bo Atkinson]

My trusted source on nutrition has long promoted (buffered) vitamin C supplement (Suprema C is my fav)..... I'd say this because we can't all live in the rain forest and get it fresh off the vine, etc....

I should harvest my wife's rose hips in fall, but too busy there. (Does anyone realize how much work is needed to supply today's needs? DIY anyone?)

Anyhow, my latest nuance is to dose way up over the top at night... (I keep it by the tooth brush since i often forget it in the day-- But recent, published research, which i trust, suggest that night supplimentation is extremely efficacious). ... My parents were always agast at how i would guzzle vinegar from the salad bowl ^^

Let's see, best flavor for C supplementation, i'd say for sweetness use stevia, preferably as a 'tea' but the refined stuff can work with care.....

BTW, ...being my own cook (my wife prefers her own cooking) i like to use C + stevia for my fast food flavoring (usually lots of onion and garlic there, vampires look out In my learning the hard way refined sugar is totalitarian induced mega poison. I even refuse my own wife's lovely chocolate butter cream cakes. 'Used to love those, heh. They say good food flavoring needs sweet+sour+salt..... I don't have time or cash for better-more-imported cuisine, heh. Besides my vegan direction of diet makes me feel like a 30 year old again.

Back to teas & soda, the best deal for me is most anything from our garden, placed in a kettle or flask, in the sun (add my well water).... Forgot my C today? I just dump a quarter tea spoon or more in the palm of my hand and toss it down my throat, heh. However supremeC brand is much better than the generic C i used to guzzle.

Super food berries of choice are my absolute favorite..... I'd try pure, dried, powdered berries in general, although even the best brand had to cut down on the flavorful aspects (sweetness) due to scarcity imposed by ______ you guessed right.

[Seikou-Kishi]

Posted by Trail (here)
I've heard 1000-4000mg a day is healthy.. i was already taking a 1000mg tab a day but not long ago i've bought 2000g (2kg) of ascorbid acid in powder form. buying vit c in bulk is extremely cheap. i was paying 1.79 euros per 20 1000mg tabs. i payed about 35 euros incl shipment for the 2kg in powder and i got to pick the container size i liked so i picked 200g containers.

Now what i do is make my own lemonade with it and i drink it all day long.
Ascorbid acid is very acidic and it tastes very much like a real sour lemon.

So i take a bottle put a little very hot water in it then i poor about 3grams in there and add quite a lot of sugar (will try stevia (a natural sugar herb) instead of sugar soon), i shake well then add cold water and store in the fridge.

It is good to drink right now, because at this point it tastes kind of like a better version of 7 up, without the bubbles, but i happen to have an old 'club soda' machine to add bubbles wich i use when my bottles are cold.



I drink it like this or add a tiny amount (1/5th of normal dosage) of chassis, orange, or strawberry sirup to it..

All my friends love the taste.. and they all feel that healthy vitamine c boosting effect and ask for more..

I love my vit c kick the soda club bottles wich i use are 1 liter bottles and they have a bigger than normal opening at the top.. wich is very usefull when you have to add powders..

I get exactly 3 glasses out of one bottle and i drink about 5 glasses on avarage.. often more.. sometimes less..

The only days when i drink little or no vit c is on days when i take MMS. (as the two violently react with eachother)

If you want to take 4 grams of vit c a day and just take a big dose in the morning it doesn't have much effect and most of it won't be absorbed by the body but secreted. Vit c is easily secreted through the urinal tract. Drinking it throughout the day has a much better chance of being actually absorbed and used.

On the other hand i've also heard that the constant battering of acidity of ascorbid acid is bad for my teeth though.. i have already lowered the amount of vit c per bottle from 5-6 to 2.5-3.5 grams.. (i'm not noticing any harmful effects on my teeth yet)

Maybe i'm just getting addicted to it

Sugar isn't going to make you drink any less acidic; actually, as sugar is dehydrated by the hydrochloric acid in your stomach, it actually burns (sugar+acid=bad mix). If I were you, I'd just gulp it down and then rinse my mouth out with sodium bicarbonate. The acid itself will do wonders for your digestion, even if it's less kind on your teeth :-)

Btw, I don't suppose you could link us to your source?

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Trail (here)
Any tips on the best types of juices to mix that with so it might taste better?

Ah - I doubt that I have ever consumed lipsomal Vitamin C straight .

I add a spoonful of it to various smoothie concoctions I make. The simplest such has:

• perhaps 12 ounces of grapefruit juice
• a teaspoon of Wholesale Nutrition C-Salts
• a teaspoon of lipsomal Vitamin C
• a scoop of Living Fuel Superberry Original

Shaken, not stirred.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Ever read the book, Life Extension, by Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw? Both scientists. In it, they explain how a vitamin, any vitamin, taken by itself is rather ineffective. Especially the fat soluable ones like vitamin A and others. If I remember right, vitamin C should be taken with Selenium and Zinc to increase its efficacy. And since it is water soluable, should be taken in lower doeses several times a day to keep the levels high in the body.
At one point I was taking over fifty tabs a day of various amino acids and supplements. One day I thought, what the heck am I doing? Besides, both Durk and Sandy were aging faster than the norm (at least in my opinion) so they were missing something of importance.
They've disappeared from the radar since then (1985).
Natural sources are the best for any vitamin or amino acid. No need to overload the system unless an illness is present or its symptoms first appear.
Don't think shaken or stirred matter much Paul, lol.

[Trail]

Posted by Seikou-Kishi (here)
Sugar isn't going to make you drink any less acidic; actually, as sugar is dehydrated by the hydrochloric acid in your stomach, it actually burns (sugar+acid=bad mix). If I were you, I'd just gulp it down and then rinse my mouth out with sodium bicarbonate. The acid itself will do wonders for your digestion, even if it's less kind on your teeth :-)

Btw, I don't suppose you could link us to your source?

Yes sure i can send you the email of a dutch guy who packaged and sold it to me in bulk form. It's geon88 (at) hotmail (dot) com. his name is Koen. I found him through a dutch website called samenkopen.net wich aims to buy stuff in bulk together with other buyers and redistributing amongst eachother.

Koen is very profesional. His packaging is great.

[pugwash84]

oranges are nice

[Hervé]

Things You Didn't Know About Vitamin C

By Heather Callaghan

Suzanne Humphries is a specialist in internal medicine and kidney disease and is also known for speaking out about vaccines after having had a lucrative career in nephrology. Few people know that she gave a brilliant lecture on the crucial role of vitamin C (ascorbic acid) over in Sweden this year.

You won't typically hear this type of info from your doctors unless they made great efforts to further study nutrition, anatomy and orthomolecular medicine. Mainstream thoughts on this life-giving vitamin don't often go further than "enough to keep us from Scurvy." But this dismisses that there are other reasons for vitamin C and that disease starts sooner than seeing the effects of a full-blown disorder like Scurvy.

Here, Humphries shines light on the confusion surrounding vitamin C, its best sources and supplementation. This lecture isn't just about the liver (towards the beginning), but a whole array of human functions that few knew had anything to do with vitamin C requirements - fascinating!

She answers the following questions (from the [-youtube-]description):

But should you take extra vitamin C? How much and in what quantity and shape? Are there dangers and problems with this? Can you get kidney stones from vitamin C? We all need vitamin C and it is most famous for its importance in the immune system. It is important as part of the prevention and treatment of a variety of diseases. A common perception is that a rich foods contain enough vitamin C, but is it really? How much do we need? In what form should it be used? Is it good to take in higher doses in different diseases? Can it be combined with conventional medicine? It may be important to you and your health? Dr. Humphries has a historical perspective on vitamin C and its importance in various diseases, but also describes its role in health in general. Source: http://www.ortomolekylar.se/2015/01/v...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=y0LLX0sgwAU

How do you think vitamin C has affected your life?

[Constance]

Here's something I dug up to contribute...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=24&v=2ZYZXHtq-VU

[Czarek]

Please disregard my post. Part of big farma disinformation, most likely . apologies for not digging deeper into this issue.



FYI Vit C deactivates Vit B12. If you you have dark circles under your eyes, you may be extremely low on Vit B12.

[Selkie]

Posted by Czarek (here)
FYI Vit C deactivates Vit B12. If you you have dark circles under your eyes, you may be extremely low on Vit B12.

Do you mean B-12 deactivates Vit C when then are taken together? Just for clarification's sake.

[phillipbbg]

Some interesting resources and notes, for reference


Ascorbic Acid Is Not Vitamin C
http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/vitam...not-vitamin-c/

Natural food-Fruit Vitamin C Content
http://www.naturalhub.com/natural_fo..._vitamin_c.htm

LEMON JUICE - ACIDIC, ALKALINE OR BOTH?
http://www.vitalitylink.com/article-...ine-body-water

National Nutrient Database for Standard Reference Release 27
http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/2306?manu=&fgcd=

How to unblock cholesterol plaqued arteries (hint its Vitamin C that does the repair work)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ePzJbllNCPg

Citrus fruit bioflavonoids
http://www.growyouthful.com/remedy/c...flavonoids.php

[Meggings]

Posted by Trail (here)
I finaly created my own liposomal vic C thanks to Paul and the video instructions presented Thanks!

Don't think i'm in a hurry to create more though. I don't like the oily taste the soy-lecitine leaves behind in my mouth i guess..
Any tips on the best types of juices to mix that with so it might taste better?
~Trail.

I use about a tablespoon of liposomal vitamin C with half glass structured water and half glass non-sugared orange juice. This last batch of liposomal was made by a friend who used L-lysine and L-proline in proportions suggested by Linus Pauling. My body loved it, perhaps because it was deficient. My friend takes liposomal vitamin C in iced tea.

[Czarek]

[QUOTE=Selkie;991489]

Posted by Czarek (here)
FYI Vit C deactivates Vit B12. If you you have dark circles under your eyes, you may be extremely low on Vit B12.

Do you mean B-12 deactivates Vit C when then are taken together? Just for