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    Even Jon Rappoport is coming around to "it":

    Antony Sutton, Skull&Bones, Hitler, the Bush family

    by Jon Rappoport Aug 27, 2017

    The prodigious author and researcher, Antony Sutton (1925-2002), wrote about hidden men behind momentous events.

    I recently came across a 1999 interview with Sutton, conducted by Kris Millegan, researcher and head of TrineDay publishers.

    Millegan wrote about Antony Sutton in 1999:
    “Antony C. Sutton, 74, has been persecuted but never prosecuted for his research and subsequent publishing of his findings. His mainstream career was shattered by his devotion towards uncovering the truth. In 1968, his Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development was published by The Hoover Institute at Stanford University. Sutton showed how the Soviet state’s technological and manufacturing base, which was then engaged in supplying the North Vietnamese the armaments and supplies to kill and wound American soldiers, was built by US firms and mostly paid for by the US taxpayers. From their largest steel and iron plant, to automobile manufacturing equipment, to precision ball-bearings and computers, basically the majority of the Soviet’s large industrial enterprises had been built with the United States help or technical assistance.”
    “…Then, someone sent Antony a membership list of Skull and Bones and— ‘a picture jumped out’. And what a picture! A multigenerational foreign-based secret society with fingers in all kinds of pies and roots going back to ‘Illuminati’ influences in 1830’s Germany.”
    Here are excerpts from the 1999 interview:

    Millegan – Can you tell the story of how you learned of Skull & Bones? And how you felt?

    Sutton – I knew nothing of S&B until I received a letter in the early 80’s asking if I would like to look at a genuine membership list. For no real reason I said yes. It was agreed to send the package by Federal Express and I could keep it for 24 hours, it had to be returned to the safe. It was a “black bag” job by a family member disgusted with their activities.

    For the benefit of any S&B members who may read and doubt the statement; the membership list is in two volumes, black leather bound. Living members and deceased members in separate volumes. Very handsome books.

    I spent all night in Kinko’s, Santa Cruz, copied the entire volumes and returned within the 24 hour period.

    I have never released any copies or identified the source. I figured each copy could be coded and enable S&B to trace the leak.

    How did I feel? I felt then (as I do now} that these “prominent” men are really immature juveniles at heart. The horrible reality is that these little boys have been dominant in their influence in world affairs. No wonder we have wars and violence. Skull and Bones is the symbol of terrorist violence, pirates, the SS Deaths Head Division in WW Two, labels on poison bottles and so on.

    I kept the stack of xerox sheets for quite a while before I looked at them—when I did look—a picture jumped out, THIS was a significant part of the so called establishment. No wonder the world has problems!

    Millegan: – What did your study of elites, economics, secrecy and technology do for your career?

    Sutton – Depends what you mean by “career”?

    By conventional standards I am an abject failure. I’ve been thrown out of two major Universities (UCLA and Stanford), denied tenure at Cal State Los Angeles. Every time I write something, it appears to offend someone in the Establishment and they throw me to the wolves.

    On the other hand I’ve written 26 books, published a couple of newsletters and so on…even more important I’ve never compromised on the truth. And I don’t quit.

    In material terms…hopeless failure. In terms of discovery…I think I’ve been successful. Judge a man by his enemies. William Buckley called me a “jerk”. Glenn Campbell, former Director of the Hoover Institution, Stanford called me “a problem”.

    Millegan – Did any of Hitler’s economic policies threaten the interests of the international bankers, and if so did that play a role in his downfall?

    Sutton – Hitler’s economic policies were OK’d by the bankers right through the war…ITT, Chase, Texaco and others were operating in Nazi-held France as late as 1945. In fact Chase in Paris was trying to get [acquire] Nazi accounts as late as 1944. When we got to Germany in May 1945, I remember seeing a (bombed-out) Woolworth store in Hamburg and thinking, “What’s Woolworth doing in Nazi Germany?” While we were bombed and shelled it was “business as usual” for Big Business. Try the Alien Custodian Papers.

    Union Banking [Corporation] is very important. I made a documentary for Dutch National TV some years ago. It got all the way through the production process to the Dutch TV Guide…at the last minute it was pulled and another film substituted. This documentary has proof of Bush financing Hitler—documents.

    Maybe my Dutch friends will still get it viewed, but the apparatus reaches into Holland.

    Millegan – What is the story that was going to be told on Dutch TV? And what is the story of its censorship?

    Sutton – Couple of years back, a Dutch TV production company from Amsterdam—under contract to Dutch National TV—came to US to make documentary on S&B [Skull and Bones]. They went to the Bones Temple and other places and interviewed people on East Coast. On West Coast, they interviewed myself and one other person.

    I saw extracts from the original and it is a good professional job. They had documents linking Bush family and other S&B members to financing Hitler through Union Banking of New York and its Dutch correspondent bank. More than I have in [Sutton’s book] WALL STREET AND THE RISE OF HITLER.

    The first version was later upgraded into a two part documentary and scheduled for showing this last March. It was pulled at last minute and has never been shown.

    (This Dutch TV production is on YouTube in two parts: Part 1 and Part 2)

    Millegan – What do you see for the future?

    Suttton – Chaos, confusion and ultimately a battle between the individual and the State.

    The individual is the stronger; and will win. The state is a fiction sanctified by Hegel and his followers to CONTROL the individual.

    Sooner or later people will wake up. First we have to dump the trap of right and left, this is a Hegelian trap to divide and control. The battle is not between right and left; it is between us and them…

    end of interview excerpt

    Here is a telling Antony Sutton quote from his book, The Best Enemy Money Can Buy (1986):
    “By using data of Russian origin it is possible to make an accurate analysis of the origins of this equipment. It was found that all the main diesel and steam-turbine propulsion systems of the ninety-six Soviet ships on the Haiphong supply run [to the North Vietnamese] that could be identified (i.e., eighty-four out of the ninety-six) originated in design or construction outside the USSR. We can conclude, therefore, that if the [US] State and Commerce Departments, in the 1950s and 1960s, had consistently enforced the legislation passed by Congress in 1949, the Soviets would not have had the ability to supply the Vietnamese War – and 50,000 more Americans and countless Vietnamese would be alive today.”
    “Who were the government officials responsible for this transfer of known military technology? The concept originally came from National Security Adviser Henry Kissinger, who reportedly sold President Nixon on the idea that giving military technology to the Soviets would temper their global territorial ambitions. How Henry arrived at this gigantic non sequitur is not known. Sufficient to state that he aroused considerable concern over his motivations. Not least that Henry had been a paid family employee of the Rockefellers since 1958 and has served as International Advisory Committee Chairman of the Chase Manhattan Bank, a Rockefeller concern.”
    If you think such traitorous actions could never have occurred, I point you to another researcher, Charles Higham, and his 1983 classic, Trading with the Enemy.

    Higham focuses on World War 2. The men behind the curtain Higham exposed are in the same basic group that Antony Sutton exposed.

    Higham, Trading with the Enemy:
    “What would have happened if millions of American and British people, struggling with coupons and lines at the gas stations, had learned that in 1942 Standard Oil of New Jersey [part of the Rockefeller empire] managers shipped the enemy’s [Germany’s] fuel through neutral Switzerland and that the enemy was shipping Allied fuel? Suppose the public had discovered that the Chase Bank in Nazi-occupied Paris after Pearl Harbor was doing millions of dollars’ worth of business with the enemy with the full knowledge of the head office in Manhattan [the Rockefeller family among others?] Or that Ford trucks were being built for the German occupation troops in France with authorization from Dearborn, Michigan? Or that Colonel Sosthenes Behn, the head of the international American telephone conglomerate ITT, flew from New York to Madrid to Berne during the war to help improve Hitler’s communications systems and improve the robot bombs that devastated London? Or that ITT built the FockeWulfs that dropped bombs on British and American troops? Or that crucial ball bearings were shipped to Nazi-associated customers in Latin America with the collusion of the vice-chairman of the U.S. War Production Board in partnership with Goering’s cousin in Philadelphia when American forces were desperately short of them? Or that such arrangements were known about in Washington and either sanctioned or deliberately ignored?”
    Getting the picture?

    War, what is it good for? It’s good for business. It’s good for creating chaos and destruction. It’s good for launching new global organizations, in the aftermath; organizations that exert a level of control and reach that didn’t exist before. It’s good for launching organizations like the United Nations and the European Union and the World Trade Organization—dedicated to Globalism, which in turn is dedicated to planned civilization, in which the individual is demeaned and the group is All.

    Freedom is demeaned, and dominance by the few over the many is hailed as peace in our time.

    Jon Rappoport

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    Published on Feb 22, 2011
    An excellent talk by Professor Antony Sutton, who taught economics at California State University, and was a research fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution.

    In this talk, Prof. Sutton goes into his impeccable research on how a close-knit group of Western financiers and industrialists (centered around Morgan and Rockefeller in the US, and around Milner and the City financiers, in the UK) created and sustained Soviet Russia.

    Particularly, he goes into how Wall Street/City of London financiers used their banking institutions and their industrial enterprises to help finance and sustain the Bolshevik Revolution. Build up Soviet industry during Lenin's Five-Year Plans, both through finance, technology/industrial transfers and technical assistance. Continue to build the Soviets throughout the entire Cold War, through the same kinds of deals. This included the Korea and the Vietnam eras, during which American troops were being killed by... Western-made Soviet equipment.

    In his academic research, Sutton also went into how these internationalist interests also supported national-socialism, in Nazi Germany, and in general supported every brand of top-down, command-and-control, socialist type political system.

    [...]


    See full article under "Show More" below the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD_cJXOjYl8
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    More from Jon:

    Forgotten history: US bankers financing US enemies—and why it is important now

    by Jon Rappoport Aug 28, 2017

    In 1971, Gary Allen published his book, None Dare Call it Conspiracy. It quickly became an unofficial best seller.

    Over the years, several million copies have been sold.

    Allen’s thesis was stark: super-rich American capitalists were financing socialism. This bizarre paradox was resolved when socialism was properly understood—not as “power to the people”—but as elite power over the people. In other words, as a hoax.

    These days, the socialist hoax is still unknown to most of the population.

    Cloak a global power grab as progress for all of humanity.

    Here, from chapter six of None Dare Call it Conspiracy, “The Rockefellers and the Reds,” is a devastating passage commenting on the period just after the Russian Revolution of 1917:
    “The Rockefellers assigned their public relations agent, Ivy Lee, to sell the American public the idea that the Bolsheviks were merely misunderstood idealists who were actually kind benefactors of mankind.”
    Professor Antony Sutton of Stanford University’s Hoover Institution, notes in his highly authoritative Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development:”
    “’Quite predictably…[Ivy] Lee concludes that the communist problem is merely psychological. By this time he is talking about “Russians” (not Communists) and concludes “they are all right.” He suggests the United States should not engage in propaganda; makes a plea for peaceful coexistence; and suggests the United States would find it sound policy to recognize the USSR and advance credits [give loans].’ (Antony Sutton, Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development, 1917-1930, Hoover Institution on War, Revolution and Peace, Stanford University, Calif., 1968, p.292)”
    “After the Bolshevik Revolution, Standard [Oil] of New Jersey [Rockefeller] bought 50 per cent of the Nobel’s huge Caucasus oil fields even though the property had theoretically been nationalized [by Russia]. (O’Connor, Harvey, The Empire Of Oil, Monthly Review Press, New York, 1955, p.270.)”
    “In 1927, Standard Oil of New York [Rockefeller] built a refinery in Russia, thereby helping the Bolsheviks put their economy back on its feet. Professor Sutton states: ‘This was the first United States investment in Russia since the Revolution.’ (Ibid, Vol.1, p.38)”
    “Shortly thereafter Standard Oil of New York and its subsidiary, Vacuum Oil Company [Rockefeller], concluded a deal to market Soviet oil in European countries and it was reported that a loan of $75,009,000 to the Bolsheviks was arranged. (National Republic, Sept.1927.)”
    “…Wherever Standard Oil would go, Chase National Bank was sure to follow. (The Rockefeller’s Chase Bank was later merged with the Warburg’s Manhattan Bank to form the present Chase Manhattan Bank.) In order to rescue the Bolsheviks, who were supposedly an archenemy, the Chase National Bank was instrumental in establishing the American-Russian Chamber of Commerce in 1922. President of the Chamber was Reeve Schley, a vice-president of Chase National Bank. (Ibid, Vol.11, p.288) According to Professor Sutton: ‘In 1925, negotiations between Chase and [Russian] Prombank extended beyond the finance of raw materials and mapped out a complete program for financing Soviet raw material exports to the U. S. and imports of U. S. cotton and machinery.’ (Ibid, Vol.11, p.226) Sutton also reports that ‘Chase National Bank and the Equitable Trust Company were leaders in the Soviet credit business.’ (Ibid, p.277)”
    “The Rockefeller’s Chase National Bank also was involved in selling Bolshevik bonds in the United States in 1928. Patriotic organizations denounced the Chase as an ‘international fence.’ Chase was called ‘a disgrace to America… They will go to any lengths for a few dollars profits.’ (Ibid, Vol.11, p.291) Congressman Louis McFadden, chairman of the House Banking Committee, maintained in a speech to his fellow Congressmen:”
    “’The Soviet government has been given United States Treasury funds by the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks acting through the Chase Bank and the Guaranty Trust Company and other banks in New York City.”
    “’Open up the books of Amtorg, the trading organization of the Soviet government in New York, and of Gostorg, the general office of the Soviet Trade Organization, and of the State Bank of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and you will be staggered to see how much American money has been taken from the United States’ Treasury for the benefit of Russia. Find out what business has been transacted for the State Bank of Soviet Russia by its correspondent, the Chase Bank of New York’. (Congressional Record, June 15, 1933.)”
    “But the Rockefellers apparently were not alone in financing the Communist arm of the Insiders’ conspiracy. According to Professor Sutton ‘… there is a report in the State Department files that names Kuhn, Loeb & Co. (the long established and important financial house in New York) as the financier of the [Russians’] First Five Year Plan. See U. S. State Dept. Decimal File, 811.51/3711 and 861.50 FIVE YEAR PLAN/236.’ (Sutton, op. cit., Vol. II, p. 340n.)”
    “Professor Sutton proves conclusively in his three volume history of Soviet technological development that the Soviet Union was almost literally manufactured by the U.S.A…”
    “…Sutton shows that there is hardly a segment of the Soviet economy which is not a result of the transference of Western, particularly American, technology.”
    “This cannot be wholly the result of accident. For fifty years the Federal Reserve-CFR-Rockefeller-lnsider crowd has advocated and carried out policies aimed at increasing the power of their satellite, the Soviet Union. Meanwhile, America spends $75 billion a year on defense to protect itself from the enemy the Insiders are building up.”
    NOTE: The descendants of these bankers are now doing everything they can to build up the story that Donald Trump won the presidency by colluding with Russians. To call this an irony, in view of the above information, would be a vast understatement.

    However, the motives of these men are clear: regardless of whether Trump meant to keep his promises to destroy Globalism (aka worldwide socialism), his mere mention of Globalism as the enemy, during the presidential campaign, and his declared opposition to Globalist “free trade” treaties, was sufficient to warrant an all-out attack on him.

    The whole idea of nationalism as preferable to Globalism could act as a contagious germ spreading to the people of other countries—so Trump as the face and symbol of such sentiments had to be defamed and crushed.

    Through various front organizations, cutouts, dupes, brainwashed useful idiots, and violent hired thugs, that operation to crush Trump is well underway.

    Again—and this point must be understood—IT DOESN’T MATTER WHETHER TRUMP EVER MEANT TO KEEP HIS PROMISE TO BURY GLOBALISM. THE MERE MENTION OF GLOBALISM AS THE ENEMY WAS AND IS SUFFICIENT TO WARRANT UNCEASING ATTACKS AGAINST HIM.

    Many, many of Trump’s supporters want to see Globalism buried.

    Ultimately, they are the real target of the Globalists, who want to neutralize and disperse them and make them passive and demoralized.

    Jon Rappoport
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    First printed before the Bolshevik Revolution (1907), full PDF, scanned copy, dated 1934 - THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION

    https://www.portalestoria.net/IMAGES...s%20-%20en.pdf

    Warning, not an easy read, weighs heavy on the heart.
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    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    In 1971, Gary Allen published his book, None Dare Call it Conspiracy. It quickly became an unofficial best seller.
    I was given that to read way back in 1972, by someone I met by chance when hitch-hiking in Canada. It was a thin book. It was designed to be passed from person to person, fitting easily in people's pockets.

    I read it from cover to cover in one sitting, and got the entire picture. I was very fortunate (or, just maybe I scripted it! ) to get that full briefing so early.

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    In 1971, Gary Allen published his book, None Dare Call it Conspiracy. It quickly became an unofficial best seller.
    I was given that to read way back in 1972, by someone I met by chance when hitch-hiking in Canada. It was a thin book. It was designed to be passed from person to person, fitting easily in people's pockets.

    I read it from cover to cover in one sitting, and got the entire picture. I was very fortunate (or, just maybe I scripted it! ) to get that full briefing so early.
    The book None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen was an early wake up call for me, circa 1995, about how pieces of the puzzle fit together. I lost the first copy but I purchased another copy because I felt it was so important.

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    None Dare Call it Conspiracy is the book that sealed it for Alex, He then borrowed 50 grand from his dad, a dentist and started Infowars. He paid his dad back and his dad now works for his son in the warehouse. He stuck it out and played a 'yuge' part in Trump being elected over Hillary. Sometimes the system works. Heaven forbid that it should so they need to go after free speech now!

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    Quote Posted by Rachel (here)
    First printed before the Bolshevik Revolution (1907), full PDF, scanned copy, dated 1934 - THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION

    https://www.portalestoria.net/IMAGES...s%20-%20en.pdf

    Warning, not an easy read, weighs heavy on the heart.
    Consider,
    Back in a time when the Tzar Family was driving around in golden charriots and the Population was starving or chewing the bark of trees, tensions grew. The powers that were needed a scapegoat to direct the peoples anger at. Piotr Rachkovskii was head of the foreign branch of the Russian secret police, the infamous Okhrana, and just had an idea. He ordered Matvei Golovinski to fabricate a document that proves that the yews are behind the suffering of the russian People. It worked for the Russians, but the documents developed a life of their own up to this day.


    Famous Comicbook writer and painter Will Eisner did uncountable Comics in his lifetime. The last Comic he did was exposing the aboth Story. He finishes the Comic, next thing you know, he´s dead. The Comic was published after his death. Kind of you know like Stanley Kubrik. Finished "Eyes Wide Shut" and the next day he was dead. Well coincidences coincidences.

    The biggest Honour in the Comicbuisness is when you get the Will Eisner Award. And the forword is by no other than Umberto Eco. I read it, if you just read 1 Comic in your life, thats a good choise.
    The book tells of the antisemitic conspiracy behind the falsified work Protocols of the Elders of Zion, written by the Russian-French writer Mathieu Golovinski in 1905. Eisner was inspired to write it when a few years before his death in 2005 he learned Radio Islam was broadcasting the Protocols.
    The book was released by W. W. Norton in 2005 with an introduction by Umberto Eco entitled "The Power of Falsehood".

    Interesting read:

    http://fschuppisser.ch/storepdf/hageprot.pdf


    The oldest version was russian:


    Matvei Golovinski´s Wikipedia page:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matvei_Golovinski
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    Once one gets the inkling on who financed Nazism, the Bolsheviks, the brown shirts, etc; the following might start to make some sense:

    Antifa flag comes directly from German Communist Party in 1932

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    On the Left, the 1932 flag of the paramilitary wing of the Communist Party of Germany. On the Right, the 2017 flag of the paramilitary wing of the Democratic Party of America.



    Everything theses Alt-Left thugs use today is exactly the same as back then. Their logo, weaponized words, double standards and lack of logic. Its all from Germany 85 years ago. They call everyone Nazis because that is who their opposition in Germany was. Antifa prefaced The National Socialist German Workers' Party and empowered them. Without Antifa's violence the Nazi party would have never won anything.

    Antifaschistische Aktion
    The first German movement to call itself Antifaschistische Aktion was proclaimed by the German Communist Party (KPD) in their newspaper Rote Fahne in 1932 and held its first rally in Berlin on 10 July 1932, then capital of the Weimar Republic. During the early 1930s amidst rising tensions between Nazis and the communists, Berlin in particular has been the site of regular and often very violent clashes between the two groups. In May 1932, the communist paramilitary organisation Rotfrontkämpferbund had been banned and, following a skirmish between Nazi and communist members in the parliament, the Antifaschistische Aktion was founded to ensure that the communists had still a militant wing to rival the paramilitary organisations of the Nazis. After the forced dissolution in the wake of the Machtergreifung in 1933, the movement was revived during the 1980s.

    One of the biggest antifascist campaigns in Germany in recent years was the, ultimately successful, effort to block the annual Nazi-rallies in the east German city of Dresden in Saxony, which had grown into "Europe's biggest gathering of Nazis".

    In October 2016, the Antifa in Dresden campaigned on the occasion of the anniversary of the reunification of Germany on 3 October for "turning Unity celebrations into a disaster" ("Einheitsfeierlichkeiten zum Desaster machen"), to protest this display of new German nationalism, whilst explicitly not ruling out the use of violence.


    'Come to us' - Antifaschistische Aktion poster from 1932

    The picture below is from the leftist run Wikipedia. This is the description under the picture on Wikipedia:
    "Karl-Liebknecht-Haus, the KPD's headquarters from 1926 to 1933. The KPD leaders were arrested by the Gestapo in this building in January 1933, when Hitler became Chancellor. The plaques on either side of the door recall the building's history. Today it is the Berlin headquarters of the Left Party."
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    Hi uzn, thanks for the material, I have not yet read the PDF but unless it pulls the book I posted apart and addresses the actual content of the protocols, the implications of the content and the evidence supporting their authenticity, which includes the current state of affairs, my following points will still hold.

    The author of the version I posted is Victor E. Marsden, the protocols are only one chapter in one part of the book, the remaining of the book is explanatory notes (incl. supporting evidence) and a preface, and it's tight, if you haven't read this version I highly recommend it.

    Quote Posted by uzn (here)
    Consider,
    Back in a time when the Tzar Family was driving around in golden charriots and the Population was starving or chewing the bark of trees, tensions grew. The powers that were needed a scapegoat to direct the peoples anger at. Piotr Rachkovskii was head of the foreign branch of the Russian secret police, the infamous Okhrana, and just had an idea. He ordered Matvei Golovinski to fabricate a document that proves that the yews are behind the suffering of the russian People. It worked for the Russians, but the documents developed a life of their own up to this day.
    Well Golovinski didn't do a very good job of blaming the Jews because within the protocols themselves the speaker makes a clear distinction between the Zionist conspirators and the Jews when he mentions controlling their lesser bretheren (no way he was referring to any non Jews as their bretheren). Also, if the above quote of yours was the case then how odd that the revolution took place just before Nilus' (first publsher of the protocols) second edition could be put on the market and then Alexander Kerenski ordered all copies of Nilus' edition to be destroyed (see page 101 for more details and search Kerenski to see who he was, hence why that would be so odd in that case).

    Quote Famous Comicbook writer and painter Will Eisner did uncountable Comics in his lifetime. The last Comic he did was exposing the aboth Story. He finishes the Comic, next thing you know, he´s dead. The Comic was published after his death. Kind of you know like Stanley Kubrik. Finished "Eyes Wide Shut" and the next day he was dead. Well coincidences coincidences.
    Speaking of coincidences, similarly with Marsden, he died of a sudden and mysterious illness three years before his translation and notes were published. It seems you're damned if you go against them and damned if you don't (and then knew too much), let that be a lesson to the sellouts.

    So here we have two suspicious deaths but on one hand we have a highly celebrated writer and artist and on the other hand we have a demonised journalist and translator who was a victim of the revolution. Now, considering Eisner was apparently disposable, why do you think he's the one who remains prestigious? Because he's the one they want the masses to listen to.

    Quote The oldest version was russian:
    From page 100 -

    "In 1884 the daughter of a Russian general, Mlle Justine Glinka, was endeavouring to serve her country in Paris by obtaining political information, which she communicated to General Orgevskii in St Petesberg. For this purpose she employed a Jew, Joseph Schorst, member of the Mizraim Lodge in Paris. One day Schorst offered to obtain for her a document of great importance to Russia, on payment of 2,500 francs. This sum being received from St Petersburg was paid over and the document handed to Mlle Glinka.

    She forwarded the French original, accompanied by a Russian translation, to Orgevskii, who in turn handed it to his chief, General Cherevin, for transmission to the Tsar."

    Cherevin didn't hand it to the tsar but it continues to show how it ended up in Nilus' hands from there. Note that Schorst's father had been imprisoned for ten years, two years before Schorst sold her the protocols (for counterfeiting, right, like they care about that, I wonder what he really did or 'counterfeited'). Schorst fled to Egypt where he was murdered.

    But above all that, in the year 2017, over a century later, I echo Henry Ford's words -

    "The only statement I care to make about the PROTOCOLS is that they fit in with what is going on. They are sixteen years old, and they have fitted the world situation up to this time.
    THEY FIT NOW.""


    They fit now!
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    An example of another transfer of technology and a very important one for Japan just before the advent of WW2. The most important fighter plane of WW2 for the Japanese was the Mitsubishi A6M Zero, which may have been a copy of the Gloster F.5/34.

    Quote for wikipedia:
    "The Zero resembled the 1937 British Gloster F.5/34. Performance of the Gloster F.5/34 was comparable to that of early model Zeros, with its dimensions and appearance remarkably close to the Zero.[14] Gloster had a relationship with the Japanese between the wars, with Nakajima building the carrier-based plane, the Gloster Gambet, under license."

    Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_A6M_Zero

    Image below of F.5/34 versus the Mitsubishi A6M Zero



    Also an interesting read here:

    Gloster F. 5/34 and A6M Zero Fighter Enigma of Jiro Horigoshi and his design roots, by Jiro Anzai

    Link: http://www.i-repository.net/contents.../301871208.pdf

    With a graphic comparison table on page 5, and interesting points in the topic "Of The Anti-Spin Measure Taken"
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    Killing of William Browder: Bill Browder’s Dangerous Deception – review by The Saker


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    The Saker:

    Today I want to introduce you to a book whose importance simply cannot be overstated: The Killing of William Browder: Deconstructing Bill Browder’s Dangerous Deception by Alex Krainer. I consider that book as a *must read* for any person trying to understand modern Russia and where the new Cold War with Russia came from.

    Most of you must have heard of the Magnitsky Act or even maybe of William Browder himself. You probably know that Browder was a British businessman who founded Hermitage Capital Management investment fund which Sergei Magnitsky represented as a lawyer and auditor. Finally, you must have heard that Magnitsky died (was killed) in a Russian jail while Browder was placed by the Russian government on a black list and denied entry. For the vast majority of you, that is probably as much thought as you ever gave this topic and I have to confess that this is also true for me. I never bothered really researching this issue because I knew the context so well that this, by itself, gave me a quasi-certitude that I knew what had happened. Still, when I read this book I was amazed at the fantastically detailed account Krainer provides to what is really an amazing story.

    In his book Alex Krainer offers us the truth and truly shows us how deep the rabbit hole goes.

    Interestingly, Krainer himself admits that he was initially rather suspicious of Putin and very sympathetic to Bill Browder. Paradoxically, it is Bill Browder’s book, Red Notice: A True Story of High Finance, Murder, and One Man’s Fight for Justice, which triggered Krainer’s internal alarms and which made him dig deep into this story. I won’t give you all the details here, Kainer does it better than I ever could, and you really need to get a copy of his book. I will just say here that the book begins by a meticulous and sophisticated debunking, piece by piece, not only of all the lies contained in Browder’s book, but also of the sophisticated propaganda techniques used by Browder to demonize Putin, Russia and the Russian people. Far from being this person who “believes in Russia”, Krainer shows that Browder is a hate-filled racist bigot whose hate for everything Russian is as visceral as it is ever present.

    Next, Krainer provides a most needed and extremely detailed presentation of what he calls “the missing context”, that is the vicious plundering of Russia by Russian oligarchs and Western financiers during the 1990s. As somebody who lived through these years I can attest that Krainer’s description is accurate. His only mistake is when he indicates that while the official figure of people killed in the 1993 is only 187 killed, the real figure “Unofficial figures might have been as many as ten times higher”. A well-infomed and high-place source of mine in the Russian special forces told me that the internal government estimates (no real tally was ever made, nor was it possible to make one anyway) placed the real number of people killed for the Moscow region in the course of the week following the crackdown at no less than 5’000 for the Moscow region. But other than that, Krainer is spot on.

    Having provided the context, Krainer goes on to explain what Vladimir Putin did once he came to power. This section is also crucial because it shows the real causes of the hatred Browder and his likes have for Putin: the man basically made them lose their grip and Russia.

    The book concludes by a warning: Browder and the cabal of Russia-hating international financiers standing behind him are planning to turn his book into a Hollywood blockbuster. To quote the book,
    At this time Browder is not yet a household name among the American or European people but I suspect that this might change if his plans to turn “Red Notice” into a Hollywood film come to fruition. In an interview with “The Jewish Chronicle” Browder said that, “The most important next step in the campaign is to adapt the book into a Hollywood feature film … I have been approached by many film makers and spent part of the summer in LA meeting with screenwriters, producers and directors to figure out what the best constellation of players will be on this”.
    Is it not telling that Browder himself calls this a “campaign”? It reminds me of a very similar campaign American-Jewish bankers waged against Russia just before the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917.

    At a time when Guy Mettan’s excellent book “Creating Russophobia: From the Great Religious Schism to the anti-Putin Hysteria” (whose original French language version I reviewed here) has finally come out in English, it is essential to own at least one copy of Alex Krainer’s book. Krainer, who is a Croat national, has already lived through the outbreak of one war as a result of which his country has become a NATO colony. His book is a stark warning to all of us and a meticulous analysis of how the AngloZionists start wars. Get the book, read it, and then give it to your friends. This is one of the most important books to have come out in the recent years (and an excellent read too!).

    The Saker

    About the Author: Alex Krainer is a hedge fund manager based in Monaco. He (occasionally) writes at www.thenakedhedgie.com.

    Back cover of the book:
    In 2015, Bill Browder published “Red Notice” – purportedly a true story about his experience in Russia between 1996 and 2005. Upon closer scrutiny however, his story doesn’t add up and demonstrably fails to stand up in a court of law. Nonetheless, on the dubious strength of that story, Browder has been able to lobby the U.S. Congress to pass the Magnitsky Act in 2012 which needlessly damaged the relations between the U.S. and Russia. Mark Twain warned us long ago about the “loud little handful,” shouting for war. Bill Browder has been one of the loudest and most effective among that loud little handful clamoring for a new Cold War with Russia. Where he failed in courts of law, his campaign of relentless demonization of Russia and of Vladimir Putin has been successful in the court of public opinion in the West. As humanity finds itself on the precipice of yet another great war, what we need are bridges of mutual understanding and constructive engagement, not demonization. This book’s modest hope is to contribute to the construction of those bridges for I believe that the people of the United States and Russia, to whom this book is dedicated, hold the keys to the future of humanity.


    Praise for the book:
    Author and film maker Roman Latkovic: “I am extremely impressed,… if you kept this up you’ll be the new F. William Engdahl. And more. Your background is different, you have more heart in it and you could be more powerful. Congratulations from the heart, I’m jealous of the energy you invested in this book. Absolutely monumental work.”

    Andrei Nekrasov today wrote: “once again, congratulations on your extraordinary achievement. I will continue to praise you over time, because, I am certain, your book will be very influential and pivotal in the process of exposing one of the century’s biggest hoaxes. Moreover, it puts it into the essential historic and even philosophical context. And that’s how I’ve come to see the Browder phenomenon.”
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    Douglas Valentine: The CIA and 70 years of organized crime

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    On occasion of the CIA's 70th anniversary, Lars Schall talked with U.S. researcher Douglas Valentine about the Central Intelligence Agency. According to Valentine, the CIA is "the organized crime branch of the U.S. government", doing the dirty business for the rich and powerful.



    70 years ago, on September 18, 1947, the National Security Act created the Central Intelligence Agency, CIA. Douglas, you refer to the CIA as "the organized crime branch of the U.S. government." Why so?

    Everything the CIA does is illegal, which is why the government provides it with an impenetrable cloak of secrecy. While mythographers in the information industry portray America as a bastion of peace and democracy, CIA officers manage criminal organizations around the world. For example, the CIA hired one of America's premier drug trafficker in the 1950s and 1960s, Santo Trafficante, to murder Fidel Castro. In exchange, the CIA allowed Trafficante to import tons of narcotics into America. The CIA sets up proprietary arms, shipping, and banking companies to facilitate the criminal drug trafficking organizations that do its dirty work. Mafia money gets mixed up in offshore banks with CIA money, until the two are indistinguishable.

    Drug trafficking is just one example.

    What is most important to understand about the CIA?

    Its organizational history, which, if studied closely enough, reveals how the CIA manages to maintain its secrecy. This is the essential contradiction at the heart of America's problems: if we were a democracy and if we truly enjoyed free speech, we would be able to study and speak about the CIA. We would confront our institutionalized racism and sadism. But we can't, and so our history remains unknown, which in turn means we have no idea who we are, as individuals or as a nation. We imagine ourselves to be things we are not. Our leaders know bits and pieces of the truth, but they cease being leaders once they begin to talk about the truly evil things the CIA is doing.

    A term of interest related to the CIA is "plausible deniability". Please explain.

    The CIA doesn't do anything it can't deny. Tom Donohue, a retired senior CIA officer, told me about this.

    Let me tell you a bit about my source. In 1984, former CIA Director William Colby agreed to help me write my book, The Phoenix Program. Colby introduced me to Donohue in 1985. Donohue had managed the CIA's "covert action" branch in Vietnam from 1964-1966, and many of the programs he developed were incorporated in Phoenix. Because Colby had vouched for me, Donohue was very forthcoming and explained a lot about how the CIA works.

    Donohue was a typical first-generation CIA officer. He'd studied Comparative Religion at Columbia and understood symbolic transformation. He was a product and practitioner of Cook County politics who joined the CIA after World War Two when he perceived the Cold War as "a growth industry." He had been the CIA's station chief in the Philippines at the end of his career and, when I spoke to him, he was in business with a former Filipino Defense Minister. He was putting his contacts to good use, which is par for the course. It's how corruption works for senior bureaucrats.

    Donohue said the CIA doesn't do anything unless it meets two criteria. The first criterion is "intelligence potential." The program must benefit the CIA; maybe it tells them how to overthrow a government, or how to blackmail an official, or where a report is hidden, or how to get an agent across a border. The term "intelligence potential" means it has some use for the CIA. The second criterion is that it can be denied. If they can't find a way to structure the program or operation so they can deny it, they won't do it. Plausible denial can be as simple as providing an officer or asset with military cover. Then the CIA can say, "The army did it."

    Plausible denial is all about language. During Senate hearings into CIA assassination plots against Fidel Castro and other foreign leaders, the CIA's erstwhile deputy director of operations Richard Bissell defined "plausible denial" as "the use of circumlocution and euphemism in discussions where precise definitions would expose covert actions and bring them to an end."

    Everything the CIA does is deniable. It's part of its Congressional mandate. Congress doesn't want to be held accountable for the criminal things the CIA does. The only time something the CIA does become public knowledge - other than the rare accident or whistleblower - is when Congress or the President think it's helpful for psychological warfare reasons to let the American people know the CIA is doing it. Torture is a good example. After 9/11, and up until and through the invasion of Iraq, the American people wanted revenge. They wanted to see Muslim blood flowing, so the Bush administration let it leak that they were torturing evil doers. They played it cute and called it "enhanced interrogation," but everyone understood symbolically. Circumlocution and euphemism. Plausible denial.

    Do the people at the CIA know that they're part of "the organized crime branch of the U.S. government"? In the past, you've suggested related to the Phoenix program, for example: "Because the CIA compartmentalizes itself, I ended up knowing more about the program than any individual in the CIA."

    Yes, they do. I talk at length about this in my book The CIA as Organized Crime. Most people have no idea what cops really do. They think cops give you a speeding ticket. They don't see the cops associating with professional criminals and making money in the process. They believe that when a guy puts on a uniform, he or she becomes virtuous. But people who go into law enforcement do so for the trill of wielding power over other people, and in this sense, they relate more to the crooks they associate with than the citizens they're supposed to protect and serve. They're looking to bully someone and they're corrupt. That's law enforcement.

    The CIA is populated with the same kind of people, but without any of the constraints. The CIA officer who created the Phoenix program, Nelson Brickham, told me this about his colleagues: "I have described the intelligence service as a socially acceptable way of expressing criminal tendencies. A guy who has strong criminal tendencies but is too much of a coward to be one, would wind up in a place like the CIA if he had the education." Brickham described CIA officers as wannabe mercenaries "who found a socially acceptable way of doing these things and, I might add, getting very well paid for it."

    It's well known that when the CIA selects agents or people to run militias or secret police units in foreign nations, it subjects its candidates to rigorous psychological screening. John Marks in The Search for the Manchurian Candidate told how the CIA sent its top psychologist, John Winne, to Seoul to "select the initial cadre" for the Korean CIA. "I set up an office with two translators," Winne told Marks, "and used a Korean version of the Wechsler." CIA shrinks gave the personality assessment test to two dozen military and police officers, "then wrote up a half-page report on each, listing their strengths and weaknesses. Winne wanted to know about each candidate's ability to follow orders, creativity, lack of personality disorders, motivation - why he wanted out of his current job. It was mostly for the money, especially with the civilians."

    In this way, the CIA recruits secret police forces as assets in every country where it operates, including occupied Iraq and Afghanistan. In Latin America, Marks wrote, "The CIA...found the assessment process most useful for showing how to train the anti-terrorist section. According to results, these men were shown to have very dependent psychologies and needed strong direction."

    That "direction" came from the CIA. Marks quoted one assessor as saying, "Anytime the Company spent money for training a foreigner, the object was that he would ultimately serve our purposes." CIA officers "were not content simply to work closely with these foreign intelligence agencies; they insisted on penetrating them, and the Personality Assessment System provided a useful aid."

    What's less well known is that the CIA's executive management staff is far more concerned with selecting the right candidates to serve as CIA officers than it is about selecting agents overseas. The CIA dedicates a huge portion of its budget figuring how to select, control, and manage its own work force. It begins with instilling blind obedience. Most CIA officers consider themselves to be soldiers. The CIA is set up as a military organization with a sacred chain of command that cannot be violated. Somebody tells you what to do, and you salute and do it. Or you're out.

    Other systems of control, such as "motivational indoctrination programs", make CIA officers think of themselves as special. Such systems have been perfected and put in place over the past seven decades to shape the beliefs and responses of CIA officers. In exchange for signing away their legal rights, they benefit from reward systems - most importantly, CIA officers are immune from prosecution for their crimes. They consider themselves the Protected Few and, if they wholeheartedly embrace the culture of dominance and exploitation, they can look to cushy jobs in the private sector when they retire.

    The CIA's executive management staff compartments the various divisions and branches so that individual CIA officers can remain detached. Highly indoctrinated, they blindly obey on a "need to know" basis. This institutionalized system of self-imposed ignorance and self-deceit sustains, in their warped minds, the illusion of American righteousness, upon which their motivation to commit all manner of crimes in the name of national security depends. That and the fact that most are sociopaths.

    It's a self-regulating system too. As FBN Agent Martin Pera explained, "If you're successful because you can lie, cheat, and steal, those things become tools you use in the bureaucracy."

    Can you tell us please what's behind a term you like to use, the "Universal Brotherhood of Officers"?

    The ruling class in any state views the people it rules as lesser beings to be manipulated, coerced, and exploited. The rulers institute all manner of systems - which function as protection rackets - to assure their class prerogatives. The military is the real power in any state, and the military in every state has a chain of command in which blind obedience to superiors is sacred and inviolable. Officers don't fraternize with enlisted men because they will at some point send them to their deaths. There is an officer corps in every military, as well as in every bureaucracy and every ruling class in every state, which has more in common with military officers, top bureaucrats, and rulers in other states, than it does with the expendable, exploitable riff raff in its own state.

    Cops are members of the Universal Brotherhood of Officers. They exist above the law. CIA officers exist near the pinnacle of the Brotherhood. Blessed with fake identities and bodyguards, they fly around in private planes, live in villas, and kill with state-of-the-art technology. They tell army generals what to do. They direct Congressional committees. They assassinate heads of state and murder innocent children with impunity and with indifference. Everyone to them, but their bosses, is expendable.

    In your opinion, it is the "National Security Establishment's deepest, darkest secret" that it is involved in the global drug trade. How did this involvement come about?

    There are two facets to the CIA's management and control of international drug trafficking, on behalf of the corporate interests that rule America. It's important to note that the US government's involvement in drug trafficking began before the CIA existed, as a means of controlling states, as well as the political and social movements within them, including America. Direct involvement started in the 1920s when the US helped Chiang Kai-shek's Nationalist regime in China support itself through the narcotics trade.

    During World War II, the CIA' predecessor, the OSS, provided opium to Kachin guerrillas fighting the Japanese. The OSS and the US military also forged ties with the American criminal underworld during the Second World War, and would thereafter secretly provide protection to American drug traffickers whom it hired to do its dirty work at home and abroad.

    After the Nationalists were chased out of China, the CIA established these drug traffickers in Taiwan and Burma. By the 1960's, the CIA was running the drug trade throughout Southeast Asia, and expanding its control worldwide, especially into South America, but also throughout Europe. The CIA supported its drug trafficking allies in Laos and Vietnam. Air Force General Nguyen Cao Ky, while serving in 1965 as head of South Vietnam's national security directorate, sold the CIA the right to organize private militias and build secret interrogation centers in every province, in exchange for control over a lucrative narcotic smuggling franchise. Through his strongman, General Loan, Ky and his clique financed both their political apparatus and their security forces through opium profits. All with CIA assistance.

    The risk of having its ties to drug traffickers in Southeast Asia exposed, is what marks the beginning of the second facet - the CIA's infiltration and commandeering of the various government agencies involved in drug law enforcement. Senior American officials arranged for the old Bureau of Narcotics to be dissolved and recreated in 1968 within the Justice Department as the Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs. The CIA immediately began infiltrating the highest levels of the BNDD for the purpose of protecting its drug trafficking allies around the world, especially in Southeast Asia. The CIA's Counter-Intelligence Branch, under James Angleton, had been in liaison with these drug agencies since 1962, but in 1971 the function was passed to the CIA's operations division. In 1972, CIA officer Seymour Bolten was appointed as the CIA director's Special Assistant for the Coordination of Narcotics. Bolten became an advisor to William Colby and later DCI George H.W. Bush. By 1973, with the establishment of the DEA, the CIA was in total control of all foreign drug law enforcement operations and was able to protect traffickers in the US as well. In 1990 the CIA created its own counter-narcotics center, despite being prohibited from exercising any domestic law enforcement function.

    Is the war on drugs also a war on blacks? Let me give you some framework for this question, because John Ehrlichman, a former top aide to Richard Nixon, supposedly admitted that: "The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did." (1) And I can quote from H. R. Haldeman's diaries in this respect, of course. In the early stages of his presidency, more specifically on April 28, 1969, Nixon outlined his basic strategy to his chief of staff: "[President Nixon] emphasized that you have to face the fact that the whole problem is really the blacks. The key is to devise a system that recognizes this while not appearing to." (2) So, is the war on drugs that started under Nixon also a war on blacks? And if so, what does this tell us about the United States?

    America is a former slave state and a blatantly racist society, so yes, the war on drugs, which is managed by white supremacists, was and is directed against blacks and other despised minorities as a way of keeping them disenfranchised. The old Bureau of Narcotics was blatantly racist: not until 1968 were black FBN agents allowed to become group supervisors (Grade 13) and manage white agents.

    I interviewed former FBN Agent William Davis for my book about the FBN, The Strength of the Wolf. Davis articulated the predicament of black agents. After graduating from Rutgers University in 1950, Davis, while visiting New York City, heard singer Kate Smith praising FBN Agent Bill Jackson on a radio show. "She described him as a black lawyer who was doing a fine job as a federal narcotic agent," Davis recalled, "and that was my inspiration. I applied to the Narcotics Bureau and was hired right away, but I soon found out there was an unwritten rule that Black agents could not hold positions of respect: they could not become group leaders, or manage or give direction to whites. The few black agents we had at any one time," he said bitterly, "maybe eight in the whole country, had indignities heaped upon us."

    Davis told how Wade McCree, while working as an FBN agent in the 1930s, created a patent medicine. But McCree made the mistake of writing to Eleanor Roosevelt to complain that prosecutors in the South were calling black agents "n*ggers." As a result, the FBN's legal staff charge McCree with using FBN facilities to create his patent medicine. McCree was fired with the intended ripple effect: his dismissal sent a clear message that complaints from black agents would not be tolerated.

    In an interview for The Strength of the Wolf, Clarence Giarusso, a veteran New Orleans narcotic agent and its chief of police in the 1970s, explained to me the racial situation from local law enforcement's perspective. "We made cases in Black neighborhoods because it was easy," he said. "We didn't need a search warrant, it allowed us to meet our quotas, and it was ongoing. If we found dope on a Black man we could put him in jail for a few days and no one cared. He has no money for a lawyer, and the courts are ready to convict; there's no expectation on the jury's part that we even have to make a case. So rather than go cold turkey he becomes an informant, which means we can make more cases in his neighborhood, which is all we're interested in. We don't care about Carlos Marcello or the Mafia. City cops have no interest in who brings the dope in. That's the job of federal agents."

    Anyone who thinks it is any different nowadays is living in a fantasy world. Where I live, in Longmeadow, MA, the cops are the first line of defense against the blacks and Puerto Ricans in the nearby city of Springfield. About 15 years ago, there was a Mafia murder in Springfield's Little Italy section. At the time, blacks and Puerto Ricans were moving into the neighborhood and there was a lot of racial tension. The local TV station interviewed me about it, and I said the Al Bruno, the murdered Mafia boss, was probably an FBI informant. The next day, people I knew wouldn't talk to me. Comments were made. Someone told me Bruno's son went to the same health club as me. In a city like Springfield and its suburban neighborhoods, everyone is related to or friends with someone in the Mafia.

    A few years before Bruno's murder, I had befriended the janitor at the health club I belong to. By chance, the janitor was the son of a Springfield narcotics detective. The janitor and I shot pool and drank beers in local bars. One day he told me a secret his father had told him. His father told him that the Springfield cops let the Mafia bosses bring narcotics into Springfield and in exchange, the hoods named their black and Puerto Ricans customers. That way, like Giarusso said above, the cops keep making cases and the minority communities have a harder time buying houses and encroaching on the established whites in their neighborhoods. This happens everywhere in the US every day.

    Is it ironic to you that the whole drug trade wouldn't exist as it does today if the drugs were not illegal in the first place?

    The outlawing of narcotic drugs turned the issue of addiction from a matter of "public health" into a law enforcement issue, and thus a pretext for expanding police forces and reorganizing the criminal justice and social welfare systems to prevent despised minorities from making political and social advances. The health care industry was placed in the hands of businessmen seeking profits at the expense of despised minorities, the poor and working classes. Private businesses established civic institutions to sanctify this repressive policy. Public educators developed curriculums that doubled as political indoctrination promoting the Business Party's racist line. Bureaucracies were established to promote the expansion of business interests abroad, while suppressing political and social resistance to the medical, pharmaceutical, drug manufacturing and law enforcement industries that benefited from it.

    It takes a library full of books to explain the economic foundations of the war on drugs, and the reasons for America's laissez faire regulation of the industries that profit from it. Briefly stated, they profit from it just like the Mafia profits from it. Suffice it to say that Wall Street investors in the drug industries have used the government to unleash and transform their economic power into political and global military might; never forget, America is not an opium or cocaine producing nation, and narcotic drugs are a strategic resource, upon which all of the above industries - including the military - depend. Controlling the world's drug supply, both legal and illegal, is a matter of national security. Read my books for examples of how this has played out over the past 70 years

    Is the CIA part of the opium problem today in Afghanistan?

    In Afghanistan, CIA officers manage the drug trade from their hammocks in the shade. Opium production has soared since they created the Karzai government in 2001-2 and established intelligence networks into the Afghan resistance through "friendly civilians" in the employ of the opium trafficking warlord, Gul Agha Sherzai. The American public is largely unaware that the Taliban laid down its arms after the American invasion, and that the Afghan people took up arms only after the CIA installed Sherzai in Kabul. In league with the Karzai brothers, Sherzai supplied the CIA with a network of informants that targeted their business rivals, not the Taliban. As Anand Gopal revealed in No Good Men Among the Living, as a result of Sherzai's friendly tips, the CIA methodically tortured and killed Afghanistan's most revered leaders in a series of Phoenix-style raids that radicalized the Afghan people. The CIA started the war as a pretext for a prolonged occupation and colonization of Afghanistan.

    In return for his services, Sherzai received the contract to build the first US military base in Afghanistan, along with a major drug franchise. The CIA arranged for its Afghan drug warlords to be exempted from DEA lists. All this is documented in Gopal's book. The CIA officers in charge watch in amusement as addiction rates soar among young Afghan people whose parents have been killed and whose minds have been damaged by 15 + years of US aggression. They don't care that the drugs reach America's inner cities, for all the economic, social, and political reasons cited above.

    The drug trade also has "intelligence potential". CIA officers have an accommodation with the protected Afghan warlords who convert opium into heroin and sell it to the Russian mob. It's no different than cops working with Mafia drug dealers in America; it's an accommodation with an enemy that ensures the political security of the ruling class. The accommodation is based on the fact that crime cannot be eradicated, it can only be managed.

    The CIA is authorized to negotiate with the enemy, but only if the channels are secure and deniable. It happened during the Iran Contra scandal, when President Reagan won the love of the American people by promising never to negotiate with terrorists, while his two-faced administration secretly sent CIA officers to Tehran to sell missiles to the Iranians and use the money to buy guns for the drug dealing Contras. In Afghanistan, the accommodation within the drug underworld provides the CIA with a secure channel to the Taliban leadership, with whom they negotiate on simple matters like prisoner exchanges. The criminal-espionage underworld in Afghanistan provides the intellectual space for any eventual reconciliation. There are always preliminary negotiations for a ceasefire, and in every modern American conflict that's the CIA's job. Trump, however, is going to prolong the occupation indefinitely.

    The fact that 600 subordinate DEA agents are in Afghanistan makes the whole thing plausibly deniable.

    Did the U.S. employ characteristics of the Phoenix program as a replay in Afghanistan? I ask especially related to the beginning of "Operation Enduring Freedom" when the Taliban leaders initially laid down their weapons.

    Afghanistan is a case study of the standard two-tiered Phoenix program developed in South Vietnam. It's guerrilla warfare targeting "high value" cadre, both for recruitment and assassination. That's the top tier. It's also psychological warfare against the civilian population - letting everyone know they will be kidnapped, imprisoned, tortured, extorted and/or killed if they can be said to support the resistance. That's the second tier - terrorizing the civilians into supporting the US puppet government.

    The US military resisted being involved in this repugnant form of warfare (modeled on SS Einsatzgruppen-style special forces and Gestapo-style secret police) through the early part of the Vietnam War, but got hooked into providing soldiers to flesh out Phoenix. That's when the CIA started infiltrating the military's junior officer corps. CIA officers Donald Gregg (featured by the revisionist war monger Ken Burns in his Vietnam War series) and Rudy Enders (both of whom I interviewed for my book The Phoenix Program), exported Phoenix to El Salvador and Central America in 1980, at the same time the CIA and military were joining forces to create Delta Force and the Joint Special Operations Command to combat "terrorism" worldwide using the Phoenix model. There are no more conventional wars, so the military, for economic and political reasons, has become, under the junior officer corps recruited by the CIA years ago, the de-facto police force for the American empire, operating out of 700 + bases around the world.

    In what form and fashion is the Phoenix program alive today in America's homeland?

    Karl Marx explained over 150 years ago how and why capitalists treat workers the same, whether at home or abroad. As capitalism evolves and centralizes its power, as the climate degenerates, as the gap between rich and poor widens, and as resources become scarcer, America police forces adopt Phoenix-style "anti-terror" strategies and tactics to use against the civilian population. The government has enacted "administrative detention" laws, which are the legal basis for Phoenix-style operations, so that civilians can be arrested on suspicion of being a threat to national security. Phoenix was a bureaucratic method of coordinating agencies involved in intelligence gathering with those conducting "anti-terror" operations, and the Department of Homeland Security has established "fusion centers" based on this model around the nation. Informant nets and psychological operations against the American people have also proliferated since 9-11. This is all explained in detail in my book, The CIA as Organized Crime.

    How important is mainstream media for the public perception of the CIA?

    It's the most critical feature. Guy Debord said that secrecy dominates the world, foremost as secret of domination. The media prevents you from knowing how you're being dominated, by keeping the CIA's secrets. The media and the CIA are same thing.

    What FOX and MSNBC have in common is that, in a free-wheeling capitalist society, news is a commodity. News outlets target demographic audience to sell a product. It's all fake news, in so far as each media outlet skews its presentation of the news to satisfy its customers. But when it comes to the CIA, it's not just fake, it's poison. It subverts democratic institutions.

    Any domestic Phoenix-style organization or operation depends on double-speak and deniability, as well as official secrecy and media self-censorship. The CIA's overarching need for total control of information requires media complicity. This was one of the great lesson defeat in Vietnam taught our leaders. The highly indoctrinated and well rewarded managers who run the government and media will never again allow the public to see the carnage they inflict upon foreign civilians. Americans never will see the mutilated Iraqi, Afghani, Libyan, and Syrian children killed by marauding US mercenary forces and cluster bombs.

    On the other hand, falsified portrayals of CIA kidnappings, torture, and assassinations are glorified on TV and in movies. Telling the proper story is the key. Thanks to media complicity, Phoenix has already become the template for providing internal political security for America's leaders.

    Is the CIA an enemy of the American people?

    Yes. It's an instrument of the rich political elite, it does their dirty business.

    References:

    (1) Dan Baum: "Legalize It All - How to win the war on drugs", published at Harper's Magazine in April 2016 under: https://harpers.org/archive/2016/04/legalize-it-all/

    (2) "Haldeman Diary Shows Nixon Was Wary of Blacks and Jews", published at The New York Times on May 18, 1994 under: http://www.nytimes.com/1994/05/18/us...-and-jews.html
    Douglas Valentine is the author of the non-fictional, historical books "The Hotel Tacloban", "The Phoenix Program", "The Strength of the Wolf", "The Strength of the Pack", and "The CIA as Organized Crime".
    Related:
    The CIA's Cult of Death - A review of Douglas Valentine's The CIA as Organized Crime

    The Truth Perspective: Interview with Douglas Valentine: The CIA As Organized Crime
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    The research I have done since I was a political science/philosophy major in college in the mid-70s, and more so, the research I have done even more extensively since 9/11, confirms every word in Herve's post--and then some.

    Plausible deniability, compartmentalization, and need-to-know are three very important pillars of the global "intelligence agencies", not just the CIA, and where patterned after "organized crime" modalities. Another major pillar is murder. With smaller pillars such as intimidation, blackmail, extortion ....laying in the wings. You name it.

    They are pieces of s**t, each and every one of them, and that includes CEOs of supra national "persons" called corporations, as well as [s]elected criminals who some call our "leaders" or "representatives" and the scum they appoint--including far too many judges.

    It has been correctly observed, that the "mob", "Costa Nostra", "Mafia", whatever label you want to use, did not get shut down; rather it (they) moved into higher levels of business and government--such as, in the USA, Wall Street, Congress and the Whitehouse.
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    Yes, it is all rather sickening! What surprised me was that it was going on in the 1920's as well. But then the British Gov't took down China using opium, even before that! What I'm wondering.... could one say that the CIA is running the entire World? Sure looks that way, but that would be under The Handlers at the Top, right? Makes me think of R. Bernard's testimony of how things are run at the Top. No a pretty picture!

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    No, I don't think one could say the CIA runs the world...just a disproportionately large chunk of it.

    They aren't everywhere, and they are capable of failure. Plus, the military does not generally like them.

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