Explosion in Oslo

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)

Hunt for Britons linked to Norway killer Anders Behring Breivik
A hunt for possible British accomplices of the mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik is under way after it emerged that he began his deadly “crusade” after meeting other Right-wing extremists in London.
link

new info...

Ok, this is getting interesting and silly at the same time.
The ''far right'' group they speak of is the english defense league.
This group is a front for the intelligence agencies in the uk.
And, like breivik, they are pro israel, anti muslim and hate ''nazis'' so you guys tell me.

Posted by article
MI5 is not currently involved in tracking down Right-wing extremists but sources admitted the attacks could force a change of tactics.

Yeah, they don't track em, just set them up.

This getting more and more like port arthur.
Martin Bryant just happened to go to the Tavistock Institute whilst in London.
He is also a ''lone nut'' gunman that did things impossible for one man.
And he was also blonde.

[Operator]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
that is the second photo taken from above that I have seen...



who took the photos? was he getting direction from above? 2nd shooter in the sky?

I returned to this thread with the same thoughts. But I saw the discussion on this already started.
I cannot tell if a 2nd shooter was in a chopper ... but from other pictures I saw that the armed police force arrived by boat and apparently
90 minutes after the shooting started. But then I remembered these aerial pictures ... there was something in the air:

1.: so police could have arrived by air much quicker too
2.: he doesn't seem bothered by the aircraft overhead
3.: he's not shooting at the aircraft ... just continues undisturbed.

Just some points that makes one wonder ...

P.S. I am double confused because in my past I have made this kind of footage myself

[jcocks]

Posted by Lucc30 (here)

Posted by Davidallany (here)
TPTB.

To late - they are already TPTW! W=Wanted to be!!

Yep. We're at the stage where the animal (TPTW) is cornered and knows its time is up. Now it's faced with the "fight or flight" situation - does it fight to try and stay in control, or does it run like hell. We're seeing the fight response. They're going to do whatever they can to derail the process that's underway now....but it's all in vain - they're just too pig-headed to see that

[Humble Janitor]

If anything, WE caught them at their game.

More accurately, the Norweigan press did.

Regardless, the less we're fooled by this ****, the more they scramble. Like rats in a short maze. They scramble.

There is no exit.

[Lord Sidious]

Gilad Atzmon: Was the Massacre in Norway a reaction to BDS?

I learned last night from an Israeli online journal, that two days before the Utoya Island massacre, AUF’s (Labour Party's youth movement) leader Eskil Pedersen gave an interview to the Dagbladet, Norway's second largest tabloid newspaper, in which he unveiled what he thinks of Israel.



In the course of the interview, Pedersen stated that he “believes the time has come for more drastic measures against Israel, and (that he) wants the Foreign Minister to impose an economic boycott against the country.”

Pederson went on to say, “The peace process goes nowhere, and though the whole world expect Israel to comply, they do not. We in Labour Youth will have a unilateral economic embargo of Israel from the Norwegian side.”

The AUF Labour Party Youth Movement have been devoted promoters of the Israel Boycott campaign, The Dagbladet newspaper reporting that “The AUF has long been a supporter of an international boycott of Israel, but the decision at the last congress, demands that Norway imposes a unilateral economic embargo on the country and it must be stricter than before.”

“I acknowledge that this is a drastic measure”, stated Pedersen, “but I think it gives a clear indication that we are tired of Israel's behaviour, quite simply”.

Yesterday we also learned that mass-murderer Anders Behring Breivik was openly enthusiastic about Israel. According to a variety of internet outlets, Behring Breivik was a regular poster on several Norwegian internet sites, notably the blog document.no, which is run by Hans Rustad, a former left-wing journalist. Hans Rustad is Jewish, extremely pro-Zionist, and warns against ‘Islam-isation’, violence, and other social problems he assumes to be connected with Muslim immigration.

Alongside the UK’s infamously Islamophobic Harry’s Place and other Jewish pro-war Zionist blogs, the observant amongst us are becoming more and more aware of an increasingly pervasive trend of Jerusalemite internet journals that -- ostensibly – like to give the impression of ‘rallying for the preservation of Western culture,’ and of ‘standing up for democratic values’. For the most obvious of reasons, these blog pages are almost exclusively focused on ‘the problem of Islam,’ and on Muslim migrants’ ‘troubled and reactionary’ communities and politics, whilst all the while, simultaneously, relentlessly and forcefully propounding a propagandistic Zionist agenda. Interestingly enough, other immigrants are routinely depicted on these blog pages as being 'harmless', or as 'positive contributors to society' -- you won’t find Hans Rustad or Harry Place criticising the Jewish Lobbies, the Lord Levy’s or the Russian Oligarchs’ disastrous impact on ‘Western culture’ or on ‘democratic values’ any time soon.

Gordon Duff wrote yesterday in “Veterans Today” that the “car bombing carries the signature of an intelligence agency. Nobody else bothers with such things.”

And indeed it is after all, pretty clear that a car bomb of such magnitude, and an operation of such sophistication is not exactly something a layman can put together with such apparent ease: it would surely take some specialist knowledge, and the question here is, who could provide such knowledge, and such a vast amount of lethal explosives?

I am not in a position at present to firmly point a finger at Israel, its agents, or its sayanim -- but assembling the information together, and considering all possibilities may suggest that Anders Behring Breivik might indeed, have been a Sabbath Goy.

Within its Judaic mundane-societal context, the Sabbath Goy is simply there to accomplish some minor tasks the Jews cannot undertake during the Sabbath. But within the Zion-ised reality we tragically enough live in, the Sabbath Goy kills for the Jewish state. He may even do it voluntarily.

Being an admirer of Israel, Behring Breivik does appear to have treated his fellow countrymen in the same way that the IDF treats Palestinians.

Devastatingly enough, in Israel, Behring Breivik found a few enthusiastic followers who praised his action against the Norwegian youth. In the Hebrew article that reported about the AUF camp being pro Palestinian and supportive of the Israel Boycott Campaign, I found the following comments amongst other supports for the massacre:

24. “Oslo criminals paid”

26. “It's stupidity and evil not to desire death for those who call to boycott Israel.’

41. “Hitler Youth members killed in the bombing of Germany were also innocent. Let us all cry about the terrible evil bombardment carried out by the Allied…We have a bunch of haters of Israel meeting in a country that hates Israel in a conference that endorses the boycott.. So it's not okay, not nice, really a tragedy for families, and we condemn the act itself, but to cry about it? Come on. We Jews are not Christians. In the Jewish religion there is no obligation to love or mourn for the enemy.”

The full facts of the Norwegian tragedy are, as yet, unknown, but the message should by now be transparently and urgently clear to all of us: Western intelligence agencies must immediately crackdown on Israeli and Zionist operators in our midst, and regarding the terrible events of the weekend, it must be made absolutely clear who it was that spread such hate and promoted such terror, and for what exact reasons.

http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/gila...on-to-bds.html

[Hervé]

Posted by Operator (here)

I returned to this thread with the same thoughts. But I saw the discussion on this already started.
I cannot tell if a 2nd shooter was in a chopper ... but from other pictures I saw that the armed police force arrived by boat and apparently
90 minutes after the shooting started. But then I remembered these aerial pictures ... there was something in the air:

1.: so police could have arrived by air much quicker too
2.: he doesn't seem bothered by the aircraft overhead
3.: he's not shooting at the aircraft ... just continues undisturbed.

Just some points that makes one wonder ...

P.S. I am double confused because in my past I have made this kind of footage myself

From what I understood Lucc30 as saying is that whoever was in that chopper was not armed as most police forces in Norway. Only the "Special Forces" are. Apparently nobody else bears arms/weapons.

Those Special Forces had to be rounded up and transported... but no copters to fly... no boats available... when locals were rescuing the kids with their boats... something squeaks to high pitch.

[dan i el]

http://whatreallyhappened.com/node/126310



NORWAY SHOOTER USED FRAGMENTATION BULLETS

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/E...4-13-06-29


Dr. Colin Poole, head of surgery at Ringriket Hospital in Honefoss northwest of Oslo, told The Associated Press the gunman used special bullets designed to disintegrate inside the body and cause maximum internal damage. Poole said surgeons treating 16 gunshot victims have recovered no full bullets.

"These bullets more or less exploded inside the body," Poole said. "It's caused us all kinds of extra problems in dealing with the wounds they cause, with very strange trajectories."

Ballistics experts say the so-called dum-dum bullets also are lighter in weight and can be fired with greater accuracy over varying distances.

Webmaster's Commentary:

Fragmentation bullets also make ballistic matching impossible, concealing the presence of multiple guns and multiple shooters.

[dan i el]

http://blog.balder.org/?p=1241

Quote:Sat 23 Jul 2011
Norway: Mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik is anti-racist, pro-homosexual and pro-Israel

Some comments about the ideological background of the Oslo bomber and Utoya shooter

If you have a website; please copy this post to your site, before my webhost again shuts me down for too much traffic.

Anders Behring Breivik - Freemason

Norwegian sources have identified the man who dressed up as a policeman shot perhaps as many as 80 or more innocent young people on the island of Utoya [Utøya] as the 32 years old Anders Behring Breivik. He is also alleged to stand behind the bomb in Oslo, which so far killed seven people,

The perpetrator was a regular poster on several Norwegian Internet media, notably the blog document.no, which is run by Hans Rustad1), a former left wing journalist. Hans Rustad is Jewish, and extremely pro-Zionist, and warns against islamization, violence and other problems connected with Muslim immigration. Many regular contributors on that blog naturally more or less share his views.

They represent an ideology where the importance of ethnicity is played down or dismissed completely, and the need for the preservation of Western cultural and democratic values is commonly used as the substitute key argument against immigration. Their rhetorics and activities are almost completely focused on Islam and Muslims; other immigrant groups such as Vietnamese, Chinese, non Muslim Africans and other groups are routinely painted as 'harmless', or even as 'positive contributors to society'.

This is the currently most popular strain of the anti-immigration movements in Europe, as represented by Geert Wilders' Freedom Party, the Danish People's Party, the Sweden Democrats, and in Germany the so called 'Pro-movement', of which Pro-Cologne (Pro-Köln) is one of the most active, as well as several recently new established parties with a similar ideology . In England the EDL is connected to this ideology, together with groups such as SIOE and its local chapters, The Danish Free Press Society and their magazine Sappho, and some others. Note that the SIOE uses the slogan: 'Racism is the lowest form of stupidity! Islamophobia is the height of common sense'.

This picture was taken on the island of Utøya the previous day

Their American allies are people such as Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, Daniel Pipes, etc. The dedication to the Zionist cause, and their rejection of classical nationalist ideas such as the importance of ethnicity, sets them apart from the sincere nationalist parties such ad the British National Party, Front National (France), Jobbik (Hungary), and NPD (Germany - and the only clearly National Socialist inspired movement of those mentioned).

Their heroes are mainly Jews such as German Henryk Broder, the French Zionist Bernard Henry Levy, British Melanie Philips, Bernard Lewis, to mention just a few, and many more. The Flemish Nationalists fall somewhere in between, and are mainly traditional Nationalists with no love for the US, Zionism or Israel, who are trying to adapt to a new pro-Zionist image, inspired by the success of Geert Wilders' Freedom Party in Holland, and the Danish People's Party in Denmark.

Terror victims in Oslo

Members of the pro-Zionist groups and parties often paint their non philosemitic fellow nationalists as Nazis, anti-Semites and racists, copying the rhetorics the left wing PC-brigade uses against themselves, and try to present a more polished image towards the mainstream. They are also much better connected to mainstream politicians than the traditional nationalists, and at times are supported by mainstream newspapers, such as Jyllands-Posten in Denmark, as well as by right wing Jewish groups and individuals. The mainstream press usually judges these groups more favorably then traditional nationalists, who are invariably accused of being 'Nazis'.

Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian bomber and gunman also pursued this line of thought:

Posted on 2009-09-14 10:57:20 as a reaction to post by 'Caper'

Caper,

I didn't see that the EDL as it is today is what we would have wanted. But it is essential that the intellectual conservative forces (unofficially) offer political and ideological schooling to our youth between 15 and 25. Who else is to do that?

We cannot despise the young in society and refuse to come closer to them only because they lack ideological training, since it is exactly OUR (culturally conservative intellectuals) responsibility to do so.

Bawer [referring to homosexual anti-islamist Bruce Bawer] is probably not the right person to work as a bridge builder. He is a liberal anti-Jihadist, and in many ways not a culturally conservative. I have my suspicions about him being TOO paranoid [with reference to his homosexuality). It could seem as though he fears that 'cultural conservatives' will become a threat against homosexuals in the future. Therefore he refuses to take his chance to influence them into a positive direction? That seems completely irrational.

It has to be said that many organizations such as VB [probably referring to the Flemish nationalist party Vlaams Belang] needs to go through many 'reforms', before they reach our level.

Anyway, we are not in a position where we can pick and choose our partners. That's why we have to ensure that we influence other culturally conservatives to take our anti-racist pro-homosexual, pro-Israeli line of thought. When this direction has been taken we can take it to the next level.

The consolidation MUST continue, and people must contribute by influencing (in stead of isolating).

The above was translated from this page, where document.no has collected all posts by Anders Behring Breivik. So far it is not possible to read the seperate comments in the original thread; according to an announcement on the website, they changed IT-systems a few days ago, and are working on bringing the comments and the full posts back online. The URL to the article to which this comment belongs is here; maybe it will work later on.

Footnote:

1 I dislike Mr. Hans Rustad for at least one reason: He does not support freedom of speech when it comes to WWII history and the holocaust.

Total deathtoll at this moment 9:00 local Norwegian time: 91

Ps. Rumors

There are rumors on the internet that Anders Behring Breivik is identical with the well known conservative blogger Fjordman. This is denied by people who know him personally, and it is alleged that Anders Behring Breivik during some period has presented himself as Fjordman. More on the Swedish blog Realisten.se.

[Ella]

I just caught the end of the morning news here in Sweden, and the latest news about this is that he was part of a group of 12 people calling themselves the Knights Templar????!!!! Apararently they had a group of 12 on facebook of which he was a member, it is getting headline news here as another of the members was Swedish, and in their manifesto it says something like 'there are over 9000 traitors here in Sweden and we will execute every single one of them' (not the exact words, as I just heard the end of the report). Has anyone else heard this on the news? This is getting surreal.

[jackovesk]

Posted by astrid (here)
http://www.vgtv.no/#!id=42455

Sorry if this has been posted, it's an "as it happened" clip of the bombing....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=S225ga2hzpA

Thanks Astrid,

This is Important...So far this video is the 'Smoking Gun'..! In the Oslo Bombing

After watching the entire clip, some Important Questions need to be raised...

1. The Camera Man was only a couple of blocks away, but there was NO loud explosion?
2. Notice the windows of the corner Green building (top right) windows shattering to the shockwave of the blast? Yet no-one around was blown off their feet?
3. Within (Seconds) the Govt. PA System starts right on queue? To our Norwegian Avalonians WHAT WERE THEY SAYING?
4. Whilst the Camera Man moved closer to to 'Ground Zero' notice buildings in all (Different Directions) had their windows blown out?
5. Puff of Smoke rises above the Grey building that had the 'EGER' sign on it! Yet again 'No Sound'! Why?
6. Some Adjacent buildings had their windows 'Blown Out' YET whilst the Pedestrians 'Right Next To Them' are unaffected? Why?

I am No Expert..!

Call me 'Stupid', BUT if this was a Homemade 'Fertiliser' Car Bomb, the Blast Area would be confined to the immediate area, would it not?

Can a "SHOCKWAVE" from a Homemade 'Fertiliser' Car Bomb travel around corners (Blocks Away) shattering windows and unaffect the pedestrians standing 'Right Next To Them'???

NO, I did'nt Think So...!

So I URGE all our Avalonian 'Truthseekers' to Watch this Clip and see if you came to the same Conclusions I have?

PS - It's more in line with a sophisticated Military Grade EMP/Directed Energy Type Bomb...

NOT A...

Homemade 'Fertiliser' Car Bomb!!!

[Muzz]

The msm are saying his fathers house is being raided in France.

They are also suggesting that the court procedings should not be televised which is normal for Norway.

* Update - now confirmed, proceedings closed to public

[jcocks]

Just watched the video. Yes, it's very eerie that there was no loud explosion. Smells like a space-based weapon to me. Can be done with minimal civilian casualties. Main aim would be to create chaos and confusion ("Where's the explosion? I didn't hear anything. What's going on?")
The shooting is another matter altogether

And unfortunately, I don't think this is the end of it. I feel we're in for very interesting times (If you want to cal them that) - Not being able to stop what is already underway, they will try to create enough fear to derail the process that way... We just have to remember that, even behind the darkest of clouds, the sun shines brightly

[Eric J (Viking)]

Just heard this morning on 'Sky News' that apparently he is a member of 'The Knights Templar' !!

Also that there were 11 others within this group!! any news anyone?

They decide today if he will be able to make a statement as to why he did this....

viking

[Ella]

http://m.expressen.se/nyheter/1.2509250

Here's some news in Swedish about the Knights Templar link...... i guess google translate will do the trick

[Eric J (Viking)]

Cheers Ella

translation here...

The hearing shall Anders Behring Breivik have stated that he belongs to an international order, The Knights Templar. Now the anti-terrorist group on the Scotland Yard started to try and identify the persons in the words mentioned in Breivik manifesto, writes The Guardian.

Breivik states that The Knights Templar is an organization that fights to liberate the West from what he believes is Islamic oppression.

According VG.no, he told police that he had contact with other like-minded people. He has also said that he sees himself as a representative and the knights of the words.
Describes meeting with the group

Breivik should have been at a meeting in London in April 2002 along with seven other members of the group. Another four other members shall not have been able to be with.

The members come from Britain, France, Germany, Holland, Greece, Russia, Serbia, Belgium, USA, Norway and Sweden, writes Breivik.

Police headquarters Scotland Yard in London must also have reached the data.

There are now working according to British newspaper The Guardian to find out which members can be, and if Breivik visited London.
"Political leaders"

Breivik also writes in the manifesto that "This was not a stereo typical meeting on" right wing ", full of underprivileged racist skinheads with a short fuse, but rather the opposite. Most of them were successful entrepreneurs, business executives and political leaders."

viking

[Mad Hatter]

As I said in my earlier post I thought the explosion/bomb was suss... all that glass being PULLED OUT of windows to me implies a massive implosion...

Space based weapon maybe but H.A.A.R.P. is capable of causing endothermic or exothermic explosions, ball lightning, etc. etc. etc.

On another note, where is all the phone camera footage of the event on the island? 500+ young people and no mobile phones beggars belief...

[Lucc30]

Posted by nearing (here)

Excuse me Luc, I am not a brother. Not every place is similar to yours either. I would NEVER get my news from the MSM where I live. THEY LIE.

And I do not see the answer - but now you have made me not care anymore. Good day, Luc.

My prayers for the loved ones of the deceased and the hurt.

They were piled in the water because the perpetrator gathered as many he had chance to before executing them. He then walked around the island and gathered more people as he said he was a policeman and that they were safe now then killing all the peoples coming out of hiding.

The peoples who jumped in the water to try to get to the mainland or other islands and was hiding in bushes or caves are the wounded or killed you see piled in the water.

The photos were from the first media helicopter arriving at the scene.

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by Lucc30 (here)
The photos were from the first media helicopter arriving at the scene.

Thanks Lucc, I trust they got the pictures they were looking for...

[Sophocles]

One eyewitness, who got shot in the shoulder himself, says he saw an 11-year old boy coming towards him while sadly saying that he`s father was shot dead by the fake policeman.
Then the eyewitness, who now plays dead, claims he saw the gunman catching up on the 11-year old boy pointing the gun at him. The little boy then screamed at the gunman: "NO! NO! YOU DO NOT KILL ME! YOU HAVE KILLED ENOUGH PEOPLE ALREADY! YOU HAVE KILLED MY DAD! I AM JUST A CHILD!" According to the witness the gunman hesitated before letting the little boy go...

[Lucc30]

Posted by jackovesk (here)
1. The Camera Man was only a couple of blocks away, but there was NO loud explosion?
2. Notice the windows of the corner Green building (top right) windows shattering to the shockwave of the blast? Yet no-one around was blown off their feet?
3. Within (Seconds) the Govt. PA System starts right on queue? To our Norwegian Avalonians WHAT WERE THEY SAYING?
4. Whilst the Camera Man moved closer to to 'Ground Zero' notice buildings in all (Different Directions) had their windows blown out?
5. Puff of Smoke rises above the Grey building that had the 'EGER' sign on it! Yet again 'No Sound'! Why?
6. Some Adjacent buildings had their windows 'Blown Out' YET whilst the Pedestrians 'Right Next To Them' are unaffected? Why?

I am No Expert..!

Call me 'Stupid', BUT if this was a Homemade 'Fertiliser' Car Bomb, the Blast Area would be confined to the immediate area, would it not?

Can a "SHOCKWAVE" from a Homemade 'Fertiliser' Car Bomb travel around corners (Blocks Away) shattering windows and unaffect the pedestrians standing 'Right Next To Them'???

NO, I did'nt Think So...!

So I URGE all our Avalonian 'Truthseekers' to Watch this Clip and see if you came to the same Conclusions I have?

PS - It's more in line with a sophisticated Military Grade EMP/Directed Energy Type Bomb...

NOT A...

Homemade 'Fertiliser' Car Bomb!!!

To answer some of your questions: the first official statement was a speculation in a gas explosion. As no one uses gas in the amount (no gas pipes underground as no one uses gas in their households) to cause this blast. This made me flinch in the unlikeliness of that story. Within minutes MSM started reporting about a bomb and screaming terrorist and mentioning islamists.
That really made my nose smelling something fishy.

I live on a hillside not far from the city center with good view to the center. The blast (my windows were open already) was so loud that I was certain a building under construction nearby had collapsed.
But when the first pictures arrived i noticed that in the very vicinity of the blast the windows were blown outwards. Very suspicious too.

UPDATE:
The latest news now tells about a polish been arrested (in Poland) connected to this incident.
Saturday there where rumors that the explosion was forewarned with dates and the words "Explosion in Oslo" in Polish and English on YouTube. The video was screen pictured the Sunday before (5 days before) the blast (not by me).
I can not find the video now - not even in my history list, it's gone........
Found it but have been deleted along with the discussion: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Fi64QsgjjAA
MSM about this video in Norwegian (google translate): http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/o...artid=10080589