Are the Grey ETs really evil?

[pharoah21]

Last night I had an extremely difficult time getting to sleep. I felt very anxious all night, and just wasn't having a very peaceful night. At about 3:40 am, I woke up because I had to visit the boys room (don't you hate when that happens) and I wasn't in the best of moods, knowing how hard it was going to be to get back to sleep.

After a little while, when I had my eyes closed, a grey alien appeared to me. It's important to note that I have trouble visualising anything at all in my mind, or creating any images, so after seeing this, I knew I was being visited in a way, this was not imaginary. He looked at me and telepathically asked, "Do you really think we're all bad?" I said to him "I think it would be foolish to say that ALL of you are bad, or that all of you are good." I then felt an awkward silence, and I suddenly realised, that regardless of the way this being looked, he was my brother. All the animals, trees, and people of the world are my brothers and sisters, and I realised that even if they are not on Earth, I believe these beings also have a soul, a spirit, and that automatically makes me and him, brothers of the same kind.

So I felt the urge to do, something that I have never heard about before. I walked up to the being, and I hugged him. I thought, if he is good, I can do this, if he isn't, well, what's the worst that can happen to me? There was quite a strong emotional connection as I did this, and we both started levitating, then floating upwards in to the sky, as I fell in to a VERY deep, deep sleep.

[KosmicKat]

Does anyone really choose evil? Surely they choose whatever they choose because they see some good in it. For the people we call insane their actions are the rational response to an insane world.

[pharoah21]

Posted by KosmicKat (here)
Does anyone really choose evil? Surely they choose whatever they choose because they see some good in it. For the people we call insane their actions are the rational response to an insane world.

That's very true. However, most people describe the greys as evil, meaning that they are not looking out for our best interests, or that they can't get along with humanity.

I think otherwise........

[Flasky]

Oh Pharoah21, thanks for sharing that with us. That made me cry...

Despite the grumpiness, I am happy you decided to act with such love! I felt it even from just reading about your experience. And yes, in your position I would have hugged the guy as well.

Is this first time you have been so aware to have been visited?

And on a more superficial level, what did his 'skin' feel like? Which Grey was he - tall, short etc...

And finally - unfortunately we have created such a negative, to be feared, image of Greys thanks to the media/movies and whatnot, for generations - not to forget, all the negative reported experiences of abductions of Greys...It affects as all in some way.

That's why I am also glad you were able to go beyond that...*tear*

I'd love for you to talk more about the experience if there is anything else you'd like to share with us...

[etheric underground]

Hi Pharoah 21. What a vivid memory....
I believe your understanding of the connection to all things including the
greys rings true my friend.
Just because they sit in a different level of energy and have been known to
do some terrible things, does not mean they are separate from us.
In actual fact you only have to look at the human race to see how we think we are so
different from each other, whether through race or religion or financially. But ultimatley
we are all of the same flesh and blood and creed.
thank you for your story ..... Love this sort of thing.

[pharoah21]

@Flasky, I have been visited before, but I only have one memory of this, thanks to a memory that surfaced while inbetween the awake/asleep state one morning. I can't really tell you what his skin felt like, the only thing I can remember is the intense emotional connection I had with him, like hugging a long lost brother, it was a beautiful feeling, especially when I started elevating. I believe he was average height, as I didn't feel tall, or short when I was looking at him, he was exactly at my level, and I'm 6'2. But who knows, as it was not an experience I had in the physical 3d Earth world, it must have been on the astral plane or something along those lines.

[Aurelius]

Something that bugs me about Grey's (or most of these advanced species for that matter) is their technology is so good that they are capable of evoking strong emotion in us .. ie. we feel strong emotions of love or calmness at the "flick of a switch" on their end. This makes it very difficult for us to see the trees from the woods. ie. be able to tell good from bad. I know it is generally accepted that if you feel deep down inside yourself you will know the answer but this isn't easy when they throw their tech at you.

[Davidallany]

a grey alien appeared to me

They came to check on the experiment most likely. They have not visited me in a long time, or maybe they perfected memory wipe technology. Thank you for sharing this pharoah21.

[Tigressa]

Some people say that the Greys are beings who were created out of something that originally had the capacity for compassion and that they are doing all these experiments and taking ovum, sperm etc. so that their own species will one day be a more love filled and compassionate race. I don't know if it is true, but I suppose it's a possibility.

I had visions of using their technology for my own ends repeatedly, I know they got a bit irritated when I removed the devices they had placed in my field. Irritation is an emotion? I am sure there are some good and well intentioned greys out there. It's a more interesting choice than being nasty and low vibration energy too. Surely a creature without much emotion and some intelligence could choose to act in a moral way out of pure curiosity - and then find they like it?! It's a big universe anyway. What a nice experience pharaoah21!!! Love is the binding agent of the universe in my view. You are holding the universe together with your love, well done!

[steveofengland]

I read a post on here recently about greys and abduction for hybrids, and the poster mentioned something about the grey parents not being able to understand why their grey human hybrid is having tantrum. At that point I it became obvious to me that they can feel lovefor their child, if I was taken I would show them nothing but kindness even if they wanted to harm me. But I have never had any ET experiences whatsoever no matter how open to it I try to be.

[D-Day]

Hi pharoh21, unfortunately I suspect nobody on this forum will be able to answer your question with absolute certainty. The fact of the matter is that even those who have had personal experiences with "some" of these beings won't be able to definitively say that ALL OF THEM are of a particular persuasion, either good or bad.

As I understand it there are at least a few different types of greys, each residing in different star systems and therefore would likely have evolved independently from one another. Logic tells me that if this is the case then each of them would have developed their own set of beliefs, constructs, paradigms, agendas etc etc.

In all likelihood there are probably billions of these beings coexisting with us in this, our universe. So to suggest that they are all evil, insidious and manipulative would be like saying all human beings are loving, caring and respectful... we all know this unfortunately is not the case.

Therefore, I think we can safely assume that there is likely to be great diversity amongst such a group of beings, just like that which can be observed in our own species.

[Lost Soul]

I'm given to believe that all soul bearers are brothers/sisters and are from the divine source, the Creator. Hence the old Altantean saying, "One in all things, all things in one." We are all interconnected and this includes the animals, plants, trees, rocks, water, air and the heavens.

Even though some soul bearers are more advanced scientifically, they may be spiritually lagging. We need look no further than our own humankind for an example. We still slaughter animals (and I'm a self-confessed hypocrite meat-eater) much like the reptiles are supposed to enjoy dining on us.

It is a matter for the soul bearing entity to return to the Creator and follow in the Creator's footsteps. Sounds simple, but it's tough.

[pharoah21]

I saw past all this technology stuff during this experience, when I made the decision to hug him, I did it based on the fact that I knew he had a soul, part of the divine in him. One thing I didn't mention (I'll be honest, I didn't think you guys would believe me but here it goes) is that he seemed to be in a bit of an upset state when he visited me, I can only tell you this because it's the vibe I read when he came to me. He seemed a bit hopeless. I've never heard of anyone describing an experience with a grey that involved any emotion on their end, but I will only give you this information because it seemed very true to me at the time.

When he asked, 'Do you think we're all evil?' It's like he was looking for a specific answer, for me to say, 'No, I believe you are good.' This is why I felt the awkward silence after my initial answer, because I felt like I hurt him, and it gave me the urge to see what was beneath the skin, which resulted in the hug. I do think it affected him, because I was levitating upwards as this happened, and I definitely don't start floating during strong emotional experiences.

I blacked out straight after though so I can't tell you what happened following this.

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Posted by steveofengland (here)
grey human hybrid is having tantrum.

The only abduction experience that I can recall, was of a sexual nature, so it's possible that I have hybrids of my own up there. Could I have been visited by my son? Could that explain the emotion involved?

[steveofengland]

I'm not in a position to comment on that but try and find the other thread about greys, it goes along the lines of them trying to breed themselves with human dna. though if their tech is as good as has been reported you would think they would have an easier way of doing it?

[Flasky]

Could I have been visited by my son? Could that explain the emotion involved?

Wow, that is quite the concept! I am following the thread but I must admit, I am really out of my depths at this point.

I've only had one experience with Greys (and here is me assuming they were Greys because I never saw them I just felt them there - how I know it was them them goes beyond me.) and even if it wasn't a particular nice one - no sexual stuff were involved.

Now that's one touchy subject. I think you are very strong to have opened up about it and I am actually very thankful that you did. I find it incredible, even with that experience, you were able to turn to the Grey with love.

I mean, I understand one is not the same to all....But I guess it reasonable to say it is human nature to become diffident/scared once aware (or remembering) of certain traits the attacker/abuser may have had that another person may have. For example, a male abuser - and after you have trouble staying around men because of the traumatic experience.

I don't want to invade your privacy with questions about it - but for you to turn around like this and even suggest for it be your 'son' (I find it a positive thing) really gets me in the heart.

And yes - it could very well explain the emotion behind it. But I'd suggest to meditate/investigate on it for further answers....I am assuming it should be a repeat business scenario as he will also feel the bond towards you...I think.

....You're cool!

[Tigressa]

Posted by pharoah21 (here)

The only abduction experience that I can recall, was of a sexual nature, so it's possible that I have hybrids of my own up there. Could I have been visited by my son? Could that explain the emotion involved?

This is very possible from my own experience. I have an emotional time dealing with Orion issues as I have a daughter there. I meditate on her and send her love. You can discover this for yourself - let us know how you go!

[pharoah21]

Thanks so much guys, also @Flasky (you're cool!), when you first asked me wether they were the short or the tall greys, it could very well have been the tall ones if you see it like this: I'm only 22, so I couldn't have any potential hybrid children up there that are older than say, 8 or so. But if they were the tall, 8-10 ft greys, well a child could very well be 6ft, also considering the fact that his human father is a little taller than most at 6'2. There was a child like vibe about him to, but he definitely didn't look human in the slightest.

I well definitely meditate on this Tigressa, thanks for the advice, I will try to re-connect with this being, whoever he is, and report back to you guys if appropriate. And I wouldn't have shared this experience with you guys if I didn't feel comfortable, it's a credit to all the members and mods for creating such a good forum.

Blessings

[Tigressa]

Posted by pharoah21 (here)
Thanks so much guys, also @Flasky (you're cool!), when you first asked me wether they were the short or the tall greys, it could very well have been the tall ones if you see it like this: I'm only 22, so I couldn't have any potential hybrid children up there that are older than say, 8 or so. But if they were the tall, 8-10 ft greys, well a child could very well be 6ft, also considering the fact that his human father is a little taller than most at 6'2. There was a child like vibe about him to, but he definitely didn't look human in the slightest.

I well definitely meditate on this Tigressa, thanks for the advice, I will try to re-connect with this being, whoever he is, and report back to you guys if appropriate. And I wouldn't have shared this experience with you guys if I didn't feel comfortable, it's a credit to all the members and mods for creating such a good forum.

Blessings

Just a thought - I am not sure that time runs at the same pace between dimensions, it's possible the being is younger or older I suppose. Good work, you are so young and wise! Blessings to you too.

[DNA]

Hi Pharoah21

The only problem I have with your story, is you failed to include the two page explanation in which forests of logs previously in your butt hole were dislodged and placed in your boxer shorts.

Is this an excerpt from a previously told story where the excrement found in your bedding was explained in screaming detail? I ask because I just have a hard time taking this story seriously without the "oh my god" factor and then the pooping in your pants being included.

On to the answer to your question, "are all greys evil?"
First evil must be defined. Were the first humans who practiced cannabilism for survivals sake evil?
If your answer is no, then I would say the answer to your question is no, if your answer is yes, then I would say the answer to your question is yes.

[Tigressa]

Posted by DNA (here)
Hi Pharoah21

The only problem I have with your story, is you failed to include the two page explanation in which forests of logs previously in your butt hole were dislodged and placed in your boxer shorts.

Is this an excerpt from a previously told story where the excrement found in your bedding was explained in screaming detail? I ask because I just have a hard time taking this story seriously without the "oh my god" factor and then the pooping in your pants being included.

SERIOUSLY? Are you drunk? I don't get it. What has a forest in one's underwear (??) to do with... anything? I am actually curious. Please do respond. Quickly. I want to go to bed in a minute and I will be up all night wondering how excrement, trees and the grey's moral predisposition are linked in your world?