Judgement

[Lord Sidious]

Ok, avalonuggets, let's have a chat about this topic.

In this post
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post273941
I mention how I was told that judgement is blocking my life.

I want to show you a story. An horrific one, but it should show you what I am getting at.


Iranian blinded by acid pardons attacker

An Iranian woman blinded and disfigured by a man who threw acid into her face stood above her attacker in a hospital operating room as a doctor was about to put several drops of acid in one of his eyes in court-ordered retribution.

The man waited on his knees and wept.

"What do you want to do now?" the doctor asked the 34-year-old woman, whose own face was severely disfigured in the 2004 attack.

"I forgave him, I forgave him," she responded, asking the doctor to spare him at the last minute in a dramatic scene broadcast on Iran's state television.

Ameneh Bahrami lost her sight and suffered horrific burns to her face, scalp and body in the attack, carried out by a man who was angered that she refused his marriage proposal.

"It is best to pardon when you are in a position of power," Bahrami said in explaining her decision on Sunday to spare him.

The sobbing man, Majid Movahedi, said Bahrami was "very generous."

It was a change of heart from around the time when the court handed down the sentence in November 2008.

A few months later, Bahrami told a radio station in Spain, where she travelled for medical treatment after the attack, that she was happy with the ruling.

"I am not doing this out of revenge, but rather so that the suffering I went through is not repeated," she said in that March 2009 interview.

The court ruling had allowed Bahrami to have a doctor pour a few drops of the corrosive chemical in one of Movahedi's eyes as retribution based on the Islamic law system of "qisas," or eye-for-an-eye retribution.

Though she was blinded in both eyes, she said in the radio interview that the court ruled she was entitled to blind him in only one eye.

After undergoing treatment in Barcelona, Bahrami initially recovered 40 per cent of the vision in one eye, but she later lost all her sight.

Tehran prosecutor Abbas Jafari Dowlatabadi said Movahedi would remain in jail until a court decides on an alternative punishment, according to Iran's ISNA news agency.

He said Bahrami has sought financial compensation from her attacker for the cost of treating her injuries.

There have been several other acid attacks on women in Iran. Last week, a young woman died after a man poured acid on her face for rejecting his marriage proposal. Her attacker remains at large.


Imagine this poor lady, blind for the rest of her life, choosing to forgive this scum for what he did.
I can't imagine that myself.
And as you see in the pic, she was a stunner too, not that this means anything in the scheme of things.

What say you, avalonuggets?

[pharoah21]

It's an amazing story, we hold on to our pain and refuse to let it go via forgiveness. I have to forgive my parents for a lot of things I had to grow up with, and still deal with till this day. It feels like if I forgive them, I'll let them off the hook, but I know deep down that the only person I'd be letting off the hook through forgiveness is myself.

Thanks for sharing LS

[Calz]

I say "Thank you" ... not only for the touching story ... but also the message(s) on the blog:

Giving acceptance to all of God's creations leads to ascension. Can you accept the fact that God is behind the actions of the controllers? God is the creator of every part of the human drama – and each body is an integral aspect of this creation. Those learning how to love unconditionally are receiving many opportunities to choose love over the other attitudes that these conditions can evoke.

[Ria]

There are many layers to this.

In the past I have been very irritated by people doing something sometimes repeatedly, saying sorry. Why do it in the first place?

When it comes to pedophiles having the offending bits removed would be the simplest. All so this avoids repetition. [I use the words 'offending bits' as they could be getting there jollies in some other-way, I have not thought of]. But there is always a back story.

Regarding the opening thread, What is interesting is there seems to be a consenters that throwing acid into woman's faces is OK given there view on prover-cation.

We are always dealing with massive distortion.

Currently there are two men that I know who are six foot six inches tall, because of there size smaller men like to challenge them to prove them selfs, they constantly have to deal with this half wit mentality.
One of the men is very confident with dealing with this situation, Ok if you really wont to take me, come on then.
The second man has just been knocked out cold just last week this happen a year previously as well. Now he thinks fighting is silly and ridiculous and dose not wont to do it. Now I might add this man is strong he dug up my garden like no other, moving things that would take two men. [he now needs dental treatment. [He has decided to prosecute this time]

[Davidallany]

A friend of mine traveled to India and told me about this acid throwing business as a poisoning the well method of spitefulness. I, like the woman, would forgive, I forgave the coalition people who destroyed my birthplace among other things. Love is the way to go, and although I do not want anyone or nation to come to harm, but energy always return to its origin. The doer will suffer the consequences because on that level of doing the 3-D physics law applies, action and reaction. The only solution is not to be caught in 3-D laws, which means awakening to the inner power of love.

[ViralSpiral]

Thanks M'Lord. Tis truly a heart-wrenching story, and as Davidallany states: Love is the way to go.

I think the bigger story is about your judgement


As we ARE stuck in this 3D construct, I think it virtually impossible not to judge. One can learn how to be less so, in time. Its a lesson for us all to practice. I suggest that very few of the billions do not have this in their "school books", and only very few ever achieve full marks.





Whatever measure you use in judging others, it will be used to measure how you are judged. J. Steven Lang

[etheric underground]

I say that her statement about pardoning in a position of power is the key.
To those of you out there that believe in the eye for an eye retribution,
maybe you need to delve a little deeper into what that means to you.
Im sure many put in this situation would choose to harm in return, and that is
the TEST.
Violent and negative behaviour even in situations like this that legalise revenge
will not evolve this human reality. Humility may very well loosen the binds though.

[Davidallany]

As we ARE stuck in this 3D construct, I think it virtually impossible not to judge

Hi ViralSpiral, it is possible not to judge if one sees the world as a reflection of oneself, judging is like watching oneself's reflection in the water and mistaken it for some other thing. Then shouting what are you looking at! This state is possible and abiding in it for extended periods of time increases with practice and constant efforts. It yields wonders.

[pharoah21]

An eye for an eye makes the world go blind, that is, if we believe it's our job to enforce Karma. It isn't. If we can all act in the same way this lady has, the universe, will enforce universal law.

[w1ndmill]

Posted by Davidallany (here)

As we ARE stuck in this 3D construct, I think it virtually impossible not to judge

Hi ViralSpiral, it is possible not to judge if one sees the world as a reflection of oneself, judging is like watching oneself's reflection in the water and mistaken it for some other thing. Then shouting what are you looking at! This state is possible and abiding in it for extended periods of time increases with practice and constant efforts. It yields wonders.

But I just cannot accept some parts of the world as being a reflection of me. I have never been a paedophile, or a murderer. Please explain how this is a reflection of me ...

[ViralSpiral]

Posted by Davidallany (here)

As we ARE stuck in this 3D construct, I think it virtually impossible not to judge

Hi ViralSpiral, it is possible not to judge if one sees the world as a reflection of oneself, judging is like watching oneself's reflection in the water and mistaken it for some other thing. Then shouting what are you looking at! This state is possible and abiding in it for extended periods of time increases with practice and constant efforts. It yields wonders.

Absolutely. Totally agree with you. 10 years ago, I would have called you a looney :D
I was merely pointing out that the majority of our "consciousness" here on earth is pretty far removed from "seeing" this.......

[Nathalie]

It's easy for us to stand here and declare that forgiveness is indeed the answer. None of us has gotten their beautiful face and eyesight ruined from a bucket of acid. We would all like to think we would forgive including me, but how easy can it be, seriously? I forgave pretty much all of the issues that needed forgiveness in my life. Or rather, I let go. Hanging on to resentment is only eating you up inside, it's not doing anything else, right? But this? As long as you're not in a given situation, you don't really know what you'll do. When it happens, then you know how much more work you got on your plate!

[Davidallany]

I have never been a paedophile, or a murderer

That is something which only you would know about. Have you never killed something? The flower grows from dirt, because of the law of interdependence. Duality appears everywhere in this matrix, beauty becomes ugly, sweet turn to sour, the saint becomes evil and the evil becomes a saint, they give birth to each other in a cyclic process, and they are one coin with two faces, thus the duality. Unify them with compassion, love and wisdom.

[161803398]

Many years ago, a friend told me he had been to see a psychologist. The psychologist told him to think of a ruler and allocate space on the ruler to past, present and future. He said that people divide up the ruler in different ways. Some people have a huge past -- like maybe 10 inches on the ruler, maybe 2 inches of present and maybe a nano measurement of future...for example. Other people might have a nano past, nano present, and 12 inches of future, for another example. Anyway, some people would have a big present, little past, little future. Its different for everyone. What I have found is that some people always talk about the past. They talk about the past when they are at the beach so they never actually see where they are; they don't actually enjoy the beach; I dont think they will even remember being at the beach because all they talk about is the past. This can go on a long time for many people. Sometimes events will bind a person to the past so they cant only not experience the present but also they can never move forward. This woman wanted to move forward...its the way she thinks. Its always best to learn from the past and then dump it to some extent.

[meeradas]

Awesome.

Very powerful, and the only possible decision, in many regards. Rendering "the law" nought, for instance.
I love this.

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
I can't imagine that myself.

Sorry man, I do not believe you. You can.

[Davidallany]

As long as you're not in a given situation, you don't really know what you'll do. When it happens, then you know how much more work you got on your plate!

Exactly, which is precisely why one should strive in practicing, testing and re-testing where one stands in a non forceful way, to eventually awake. Once awake it's safe to navigate through whatever comes, from one's own reflection.

[161803398]

What happens to people when past events are traumatic is an injury to the personality. People become reactive. Sometimes, for example you see that people who have been abused by their parents, for example, are really stuck in it and have a personal style of reacting to life instead of being active and creative. Often you will hear people who are always angry about something they have reacted to. Some people always seem to be offended...there is another example. Some people will get stuck in the past by a divorce, for example or a death. Usually it takes some time to get over something like that...a few years, anyway but some people never get over it and spend the rest of their lives stuck in it and reacting instead of creating. That's what the mind does when people experience a trauma. The first step is, I think, to realize it and then move ahead. It different for everyone.

[pharoah21]

Posted by 161803398 (here)
What happens to people when past events are traumatic is an injury to the personality. People become reactive. Sometimes, for example you see that people who have been abused by their parents, for example, are really stuck in it and have a personal style of reacting to life instead of being active and creative. Often you will hear people who are always angry about something they have reacted to. Some people always seem to be offended...there is another example. Some people will get stuck in the past by a divorce, for example or a death. Usually it takes some time to get over something like that...a few years, anyway but some people never get over it and spend the rest of their lives stuck in it and reacting instead of creating. That's what the mind does when people experience a trauma. The first step is, I think, to realize it and then move ahead. It different for everyone.

That's why it's important to have a strong right side of the brain, it's hard to do anything in life without creativity.

[jackovesk]

Dictionary Definition

Judgement (or judgment[1]) is the evaluation of evidence in the making of a decision.[2][3][4] The term has three distinct uses:

• Informal and psychological – used in reference to the quality of cognitive faculties and adjudicational capabilities of particular individuals, typically called wisdom or discernment.
• Legal – used in the context of legal trial, to refer to a final finding, statement, or ruling, based on a considered weighing of evidence, called "adjudication". See spelling note for further explanation.
• Religious – used in the concept of salvation to refer to the adjudication of God in determining Heaven or Hell for each and all human beings.

Tarot Definition

The card originally known as Judgement Day derives from Christian scripture, but in most religions and cultures there is the concept of spiritual rebirth after the end of the world. This is another card of transition, like Death and the Tower, but its energy is neither violent nor catastrophic despite the fact that its power is far greater. This is the energy of creation without destruction, impossible on the material plane but certainly possible in the world of the spirit. There is rebirth not through discarding negativity, but through integration of all parts of the self. The spirit is cleansed and restored without loss or addition. It remains the same, but different.

Tough One Sid..?

Judgement is 'Personal', if you look at the 2 meanings 'above' the scope of the solution is not an easy one!

With regard to the 'Innocent Victim' portrayed in the story, I can see where she is coming from.

The 'Choice of Forgiveness' was right for her in light of her moving on with her life after sustaining such Horrific Facial Disfigurations...

That may well be 'True', but she will never 'Forget'..!

Cetain aspects of Islamic Ideaology are Abhorrent, my Personal Judgement is on the Religious aspects of the 'Cowardly Act' and such Acts should 'No Longer' be tolerated..! Period..!

In relation to...

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
I mention how I was told that judgement is blocking my life.

I think you may already have the answer to this Sid, whether or not you are willing to act on it is the difficult part...

I for one have noticed, you 'Have' become 'Less Judgemental' over the last few months.

So keep up the Good Work and don't let it weigh you down...

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Nathalie (here)
It's easy for us to stand here and declare that forgiveness is indeed the answer. None of us has gotten their beautiful face and eyesight ruined from a bucket of acid. We would all like to think we would forgive including me, but how easy can it be, seriously? I forgave pretty much all of the issues that needed forgiveness in my life. Or rather, I let go. Hanging on to resentment is only eating you up inside, it's not doing anything else, right? But this? As long as you're not in a given situation, you don't really know what you'll do. When it happens, then you know how much more work you got on your plate!

I would say it would be damned hard, maybe the hardest thing in one's life to do.

Posted by jackovesk (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
I mention how I was told that judgement is blocking my life.

I think you may already have the answer to this Sid, whether or not you are willing to act on it is the difficult part...

I for one have noticed, you 'Have' become 'Less Judgemental' over the last few months.

So keep up the Good Work and don't let it way you down...

Thanks jackonugget and welcome back.
No more freak outs and bans, ok?