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    We'll see.... either way I'm prepared...






    ....With copious amounts of popcorn :D

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    If there are any train spotters out there.....Take a picture of the bar code on the rail cars. In most instances black background with white stripes. It reveals a lot....including destination.
    If there are no bar codes on the rail cars, then only the CEO and perhaps a few others know.

    Things are beginning to add up. Anyone remember the millions of MRE (Meals Ready to Eat) Homeland Security ordered?? -- or was it FEMA??

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    Default Re: Mass Troop Movements Across U.S. Preparing For Large Scale Economic Breakdown

    Quote Posted by humanalien (here)
    Some of the comments from those videos say that the vehicles
    were brought back from the wars and are going to be cleaned
    up and probably be stored somewhere.
    That's what generally happens. If the trains were seen in Oregon and were headed North, it's possible the cargo was headed toward Fort Lewis, Washington. I don't like this though, we are headed for some real rough times, food riots? Riots when the banks go belly up?

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    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Maybe they are planning to export these vehicles to China, to pay part of the debt. Is that possible?

    I like it Mr Morgan, yes a bit of lateral thinking is required(now why didn't I think of this!)

    could be possible! & possitive thinking!

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    Someone is really over-thinking. Export! No way. The military equipment has been arriving by ship on both coasts.

    David Wilcox and Richard Hoagland believe positive things about Obama.
    Does anyone know their basis for this belief?

    The equipment is coming home to roost....BUT WHY?

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    Quote Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
    I have some questions:


    4) Where was that train going? I imagine that someone could identify the railroad and the destination? As I said, they did not seem overly concerned with privacy.
    They hide the truth in plain view


    I also have a question: Some reports I've read state that there is troop movement in upstate NY. Does anyone know where in upstate New York?

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    Default Re: Mass Troop Movements Across U.S. Preparing For Large Scale Economic Breakdown

    Quote Posted by firstlook (here)
    Quote Posted by Camilo (here)
    We're literaly witnessing the end of the world as we know it. If anybody has any doubt about it, wake up and smell the coffee.
    Just transforming, not ending.
    Quote Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
    Quote Posted by Camilo (here)
    We're literaly witnessing the end of the world as we know it. If anybody has any doubt about it, wake up and smell the coffee.
    Its not the end, just a new beginning. The walls that are going to be taken down are just the walls that kept us imprisoned. Hope This Helps.
    Tear down the walls. Im ready.
    PS You cant eat gold and silver, stock up on food.
    Quote Posted by Artemesia (here)
    Quote Posted by Camilo (here)
    We're literaly witnessing the end of the world as we know it. If anybody has any doubt about it, wake up and smell the coffee.
    Oh thank goodness. Now we can get on with having a lovely time, experiencing abundance and playing with all our etheric friends who we've been too busy have over for a visit....
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    Quote Posted by Camilo (here)
    We're literaly witnessing the end of the world as we know it. If anybody has any doubt about it, wake up and smell the coffee.

    Hi Camilo, the way I see it, it's not the end of the World but the end of a cycle & the beginning of a new age.

    No Fear!!, No Fear!!

    TM

    I don't get why you all reply to this sentence by saying exactly the same? Camilo said it was the end of the world "AS WE KNOW IT". Doesn't that mean "transformation" and "new beginning" ??
    Maybe there's something I don't understand correctly but that seemed very strange to me.

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    Default Re: Mass Troop Movements Across U.S. Preparing For Large Scale Economic Breakdown

    While you are all discussing where the military equipment is going, I posted a thread about war paying well that I would have wish some discussion on and that is surely in parts answering to the movement of military equipment in US. About nobody looked at it, forget posting.

    I therefore feel compelled to post it here, not as spam, but to explain the whys of military equipment movements. And the interests of the United States, the bloody ones (sigh here) , in this undertaking.

    Quote Now tell me war does not pay

    It seems that US are replenishing part of their losses in Irak and Afghanistan with provoking new wars, namely Lybia, to make their war equipment sales to other countries increase and replenish in part, maybe, their losses in other wars. Kill people and make money out of it, also do not forget to get your friends involved and make them pay big chunk of the cost by furthermore buying from you the killing equipment.



    Posted on June 15, 2011 by The Global Realm
    US foresees $46 billion in 2011 military sales

    AFP
    June 10, 2011

    -[W]ith the war in Afghanistan and a higher operational tempo for many armed forces, clients are seeking quicker access to purchased progress, which explains the rise in the value of American exports, according to the admiral.

    Several nations participating in the NATO-led air campaign on Libya have thus contacted the DSCA [Defense Security Cooperation Agency] to replenish their stocks of ammunition depleted by the operations.

    -In all, over 13,000 contracts are currently underway with 165 countries for $327 billion…

    WASHINGTON: The United States plans to export $46.1 billion in weapons this year, nearly doubling its 2010 figures, officials said.

    During the fiscal year 2011, which ends September 30, Washington expects the sales of equipment and military services through its Foreign Military Sales process to grow. About 79 percent of these exports are financed by client countries and organizations, with the remainder funded by US aid programs.

    US military equipment sales, confined to about $10 billion in the early 2000s, tripled to around $30 billion after 2005.

    “From 2005 to 2010, we have delivered through the Foreign Military Sales process $96 billion worth of equipment, goods and services to partner countries,” said Defense Security Cooperation Agency Director Vice Admiral William Landay.

    [W]ith the war in Afghanistan and a higher operational tempo for many armed forces, clients are seeking quicker access to purchased progress, which explains the rise in the value of American exports, according to the admiral.

    Several nations participating in the NATO-led air campaign on Libya have thus contacted the DSCA to replenish their stocks of ammunition depleted by the operations.

    Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Italy, Norway and the United Kingdom are all participating in the attacks on Moamer Kadhafi’s regime.

    The rise in exports has led the DSCA to revise its procedures to ensure faster deliveries by determining what type of weapons or other military equipment should be delivered to which country before even being contacted by a client, and purchasing the equipment before it is sold.

    In all, over 13,000 contracts are currently underway with 165 countries for $327 billion, according to Landay.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...rticleId=25229

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    Default Re: Mass Troop Movements Across U.S. Preparing For Large Scale Economic Breakdown

    I think the government is afraid of us The Collective, and now they have to skip town immediately, taking all their toys with them. Dont worry we can protect ourselves begone. We The People!
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    So I thought I would go and try to figure out this Super Congress thing... and this is what I got.

    Seems congress thas the right to determine how they will function, each individual congress can make changes and commitees is a process that has been long utilized.

    Seems to me that if as a whole they cannot get the work done, to form a committee makes sense. This is a very crucial issue and the partisian politics needs to be eliminated. Our whole nation stands on the brink and we need work done! I see no problem that a commitee like this makes a plan, then takes it to congress for an up or down vote.

    According to my findings this origianl post on the topic of super commitee is very slanted.

    fear mongering gets people nowhere, but into more fear.



    http://www.christianpost.com/news/so...mmittee-53423/

    The Budget Control Act of 2011 (BCA) creates a joint committee to craft a deficit reduction bill. Joint committees in Congress are not uncommon, but the authority given to this committee will be unique. Is this “super-committee” constitutional?





    The very first Congress had committees, and even the Continental Congress, which wrote the Constitution, divided itself into small working groups. Today, committees are how the work of Congress gets done. Without delegating authority to smaller groups of members, or committees, Congress would be unable to accomplish all the tasks necessary to govern a vast nation.

    In Congress, there are standing committees and select committees. Standing committees, also referred to as the committee system, remain in place after each election and cover legislation in a broad topic area (such as armed services). Select committees are formed for a single purpose and are dissolved once its task is complete.

    Joint committees are made up of members of both the Senate and the House of Representatives. Committees without the “joint” designation are specific to either chamber.

    The committee created by the BCA will be a joint select committee. It will have members of both the House and the Senate, and once its purpose is fulfilled (crafting a $1.2 trillion deficit reduction bill) it will be dissolved.

    Joint committees in Congress are fairly common. This Congress, for instance, has two joint committees-the Joint Committee on Taxation and the Joint Economic Committee.

    The authority given to the Budget Control Act's joint committee will, however, be unusual. The deficit reduction bill that will be crafted by the joint committee will be guaranteed an up-or-down vote in the House and the Senate. When the bill reaches the floor of these bodies, senators and house members may not modify the bill with amendments. Additionally, senators may not filibuster the bill. This level of authority is why some have dubbed it a “super-committee.”

    While the authority is unprecedented for a joint committee, it does share some similarities with commissions that have been created by Congress. While a joint committee is comprised of only members of Congress, a commission includes people outside of Congress and may or may not include members of Congress.

    The military base-closing commissions, or BRACs, created in the 1980s and 1990s are the most similar to the BCA joint committee in the level of authority each were given. In fact, the BRAC commissions were given even more authority than the BCA joint committee. BRAC commission decisions automatically went into effect unless Congress specifically delivered a vote of disapproval signed by the president.

    Why would Congress delegate such a high degree of authority to a BRAC commission or the BCA joint committee? Congress has difficulty coming to agreement when decisions are politically unpopular, and has difficulty making these decisions fair and reasonable to all the parties affected by them.

    When it came to closing military bases, for instance, every member of Congress was going to fight to protect the bases in their district or state. If the decisions had been made through the usual congressional processes, most likely, the bases in the districts or home states of the most senior or powerful member of Congress, or members of the majority party, would have been protected while the weaker members, or members of the minority party, would have been losers in the process.
    Another possibility is that Congress simply would not have acted and left military bases open that the military did not need. This would not have been an effective way to serve the needs of the military. Delegating that authority to an outside body became the most effective way for Congress to make those decisions based upon the interests of the military rather than the parochial or partisan interests of Congress.

    Congress faces a similar situation with deficit reduction. Deficit reduction will be politically unpopular. It will mean spending less money on popular programs or raising taxes. Members of Congress generally want to be reelected, and thus, will be reluctant make either of these unpopular decisions. As seen in the recent battle to pass the BCA, coming to an agreement would be difficult under normal congressional procedure. Since the status quo is fiscally unsustainable, Congress had to force itself to make painful choices. Giving great authority to a joint committee proved to be the most effective way of accomplishing that task.

    Some, such as Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas), have said that the BCA joint committee is unconstitutional. “I would challenge it in the courts and say that is not a constitutional function. There’s no authority to have a super-Congress who takes over for what the House and Senate are supposed to do,” Paul said Thursday on CNBC's “Squawk on the Street.”

    The Constitution, however, leaves it up to each Congress to decide how it makes its own decisions. Article 1, Section 5 of the Constitution states, “Each house may determine the rules of its proceedings.”

    “Where does [the Constitution] say that we can set up a program like this and then give the-and then pop something back into the House and Senate and say you have a vote, you can’t take it to a subcommittee or full committee,” Paul asked. The committee system itself was not created by the Constitution, however. Congress created the committee system and it has the authority, under the Constitution, to change it or recreate it however it sees fit.



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    Default Re: Mass Troop Movements Across U.S. Preparing For Large Scale Economic Breakdown

    I've seen multiple Humvees driving around Portland lately. Wasn't really sure why up until now.

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    Default Re: Mass Troop Movements Across U.S. Preparing For Large Scale Economic Breakdown

    Finally found this thread... I posted something in this thread which may be related to this.

    Mitchell Coombes warned about the Japanese tsunami to the hour back in March before it actually happened, saying it is from insider sources. He warned that there will be a blackout in some parts of the USA between now and mid October, which the media will report as being caused by Elenin. Please refer to the video in my thread for more dot connection.

    Fritz said back when the video was made that there are about 180000 on the red list, so that makes only 0.05% chance that anyone in the USA has the red marking.

    I still don't know what blue really means, but red, is termination.

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    Default Re: Mass Troop Movements Across U.S. Preparing For Large Scale Economic Breakdown

    180,000 People is alot of people to have terminated.

    They will blow their own cover if they do that. Everyones got a friend, who's friends with someone, who's friends with someone else. People will know quickly something is up if over the time of a week with dodgy power outages alot of people go missing/drop dead.

    And it doesnt make any sense, or.. oh....... now it does.


    They're not to be terminated, they're to be taken away - to made look like they're "missing" - when in reality they've been taken to a safe place to ride out the storm?

    If they're going to start mass terminating, they wont do it in small numbers.

    They'd do it in as large of number they can handle, 180,000 seems mroe like a number of "chosen ones" that will be dragged away because they have something the PTB want - ie good genes, or the such?

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    Default Re: Mass Troop Movements Across U.S. Preparing For Large Scale Economic Breakdown

    Anybody in Jackson, Louisiana area that can confirm this?

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=lWdWL46DrYA
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