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    Quote Hope this cleared up all these misunderstandings about the Adam & Eve story and what its symbolizing.
    Never believed it in the first place as much of our history is a lie.

    Also The Grand Master of the United Grand Lodge of England, the Most Worshipful, His Royal Highness, Prince Edward George Nicholas Paul Patrick 33°, Duke of Kent, Knight of the Garter, Field Marshall, GCMC, GCVO, ADC, Hereditary Grand Master of Anglo-American Freemasonry

    The previous Duke of Kent - George Edward Alexander Edmund was installed as Grand Master by King George VI in 1939. He died three years later in 1942 in a mysterious plane crash in Scotland, six months after it was alleged he and the Duke of Hamilton had kept a moonlight appointment with ReichFuerher Rudolf Hess on the Caledonian Moor.

    Historians tell us that the late Grand Master was Pro Nazi and travelled the Fatherland in order to better educate the King about National Socialism, so as to allow the Empire to "come to an understanding" with The New World Order, European Occultist's latest 'Great Work'.

    Did you name yourself after him
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    I have always loved the metaphor (the splitting of the atom) I have always seen this story as the first division yin yang good bad male female. Prior to this split there was union with no difference in the place of creation.
    I came, I saw, I laughed, I left.

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    Have you read The 13th Stone by R Lewis, Edward?
    Bump for Uncle Ed.
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    I dont know why but the first image that appeared to me was that it reminded me of the DNA symbol

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    Thank you, Edward, for saying it. The creator of Adam and this earth is NOT the true God of the All.

    Jesus is not the Son of this false god. Jesus's Father is the true God of the All. When He came to this earth and said so, He was killed.

    This false god will go to any lengths to silence truth about his spurious claims. He has overseen the re-writing of history as the Old Testament canon, much of which is violent, vindictive and inaccurate. He has overseen a vast and far-reaching deception about how humanity came to be. Entire civilizations have been removed, with hardly a trace.

    The lie, however, has never changed. "I am a jealous god, and there are no other gods beside me." He's still saying it.

    The truth is tucked in the most astonishing places, and those who seek will find it. There is a plan.

    Thank you.

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    Only the fighters have any hope of beating the system once it's at work against them.Most people, fighters or not, are beaten in the end, you finish up not knowing who you can trust. You can get no help because your story sounds so paranoid that you are thought a crank, one of those nuts who think the whole world is a conspiracy against them. It is a strange phenomenon. By setting up a situation that most people will think of as fantasy, these people can poison every part of a person's life. If they give in they go under. If they don't give in It's only putting off the day because if they fight, so much unhappiness will be brought to the people around them that there will likely come a time when even their families turn against them out of desperation. When that happens and they are without friends wherever they look, they become easy meat. The newspapers will not touch them'.

    There is a plan thats for sure and a few people will believe they know the truth and spread the word.My opinion as stated in my signature no one person can ever change the truth, but the truth, once learned, can and will change the person and you must be the change you wish to see in the world.


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    What I have learned so far that religions are in fact astrology. Stories within Bible are for kids to learn on most funny way possible. In fact all religions are astrology based. Adam, Eve, Jesus, Mary, Moses and rest are myth characters. Maybe there are some true stories but are not that important.

    Core is Astrology. Why? Well, everything is connected. To explain it shortly astrology is your body, also planet system and galaxy. Each represents a cycle (daily, yearly and great year).

    1. Body (Caduceus function)
    Serpent is your spine. It has 33 vertebrae. From bottom you may find two nerves (magnetic and electric energy) interlinked around spine 7 times (7 Chakras). On the top of spine is pineal gland, activated from bottom of the spine through 33 vertebrae and 7 Chakras or 7 planets. There is cavity - domain of Mercury and this is being enlightened = etheric connection. Same can be explained throughout tree of life (22 paths).

    However starting part, base chakra = carbon = cube (666) = Saturn = Beast aspect (Most of population so far). Not enlightened. Man is born under 6 and reborn (if) in 7 = enlightened.

    2. Time (day_year_great year) aspect is everything about the sun
    Divided into 12 parts, 12 astrological signs. 7 days = 7 planets.
    aries = rising sun, horizon = equinox, Leo = christ or Horus = solstice; sun set = Set = equinox; w.solstice ...

    ...continue to infinity.
    ----------------------------------------
    I have learned this and much more in only two hours (not only Adam and Eve chapter). It doesn't take scientist to understand it. No big deal. Bible decoded - full stop.
    What you want to say or explain OP? 1111 phenomena?

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    Quote Posted by ghostrider (here)
    Why is the bible refered to as the AUTHORIZED king james version? didn't know king james of England had the power to authorize or un-authorize the translation of the sumerian tablets.
    brief history lesson: the "King James" version was "authorized to be read in churches", this at a time when religious dissent was spreading like wildfire after Luther had let loose the dogs of the reformation and King Henry VIII had proclaimed himself the spiritual king of England, seizing that power from the pope (whose approval he had previously obtained for his "defense of the faith" - the English royal family still use the motto Fidei defensor in some contexts).

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    Quote Posted by Edward Alexander (here)
    Nice to see other's discovered that as well. Then again, it should be pretty obvious to anyone whom have at least some basic knowledge on the Kabbala and esoteric symbolism. The text itself was even written in a way that would make it obvious that it didnt refer to any actual real events as literally written, since the mere thought of that is absurd with talking snakes flying around in trees handling out apples to people etc. Fairly illogical, on the other hand looking at it through a qabalistic perspective, completely logical.
    When you read the bible in it's original language the word for "Serpent" is Nachash. Depending on where the accents are put in the word it changes it's meaning. Based on my studies from the earliest known texts, the word used in the bible in Genesis for "serpent" is not snake, but a shining one. The deceiver is said to come as a messenger of light, to be highly beautiful, cunning, full of wisdom, pride etc.. Lot's of words in the English transation are wrong. I know we were all taught the story, but few study in the original languages using tools available fairly easily to all. I hear what you are saying, and understand your pov. I am not saying you are wrong, but just pointing out that it's an error imho to continue the story of the snake talking to Eve. It also never said she bit an apple. It says fruit. It would be more logical that it might have been a fig, and that would shed more light on the parable of the fig tree. After all, they sewed fig leaves to cover their nakedness. That has a much deeper meaning if you study the symbolism of the fig and know about fig wasps.

    I'll leave it there. As for the kabbalah and the tree of life, I have heard the hypothesis of that before, and it's an interesting thought to ponder.

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    When you read the bible in it's original language the word for "Serpent" is Nachash. Depending on where the accents are put in the word it changes it's meaning. Based on my studies from the earliest known texts, the word used in the bible in Genesis for "serpent" is not snake, but a shining one. The deceiver is said to come as a messenger of light, to be highly beautiful, cunning, full of wisdom, pride etc.. Lot's of words in the English transation are wrong. I know we were all taught the story, but few study in the original languages using tools available fairly easily to all. I hear what you are saying, and understand your pov. I am not saying you are wrong, but just pointing out that it's an error imho to continue the story of the snake talking to Eve.
    This makes sense to me, especially in light of the Gnostic Christian belief that the "serpent" in the Garden was Christ coming to free the enslaved Adam and Eve from the tyranny of the Demiurge. This would seem like heresy to most fundamentalist Christians, but few Christians seem to realize that the story of Genesis was reinterpreted much down the line and that Satan being the tempter and Original Sin were very late in the game interpretations of the story.

    I can see how the "serpent"/"shining one" confusion could happen, considering what I've read in a book by scholar Gary Greenberg called "101 Myths of the Bible" about how, after being released from Babylonian captivity, the Jews returned to the Holy Land and "rediscovered" the Torah, which was found hidden in the temple. This was in the time of King Josiah. This may actually be the period when Genesis was formulated into one text from several other texts that were different versions of the story from different surviving traditions. It could be that being slaves in Babylon for all that time had alienated them so much from their oral histories that they had to relearn much of them from scratch, and in doing so, made errors in interpretation that were passed down through the centuries.

    Quote It also never said she bit an apple. It says fruit. It would be more logical that it might have been a fig, and that would shed more light on the parable of the fig tree. After all, they sewed fig leaves to cover their nakedness. That has a much deeper meaning if you study the symbolism of the fig and know about fig wasps.
    I like Onyxknight's explanation that the Genesis story is really about the early versions of humans that had been genetically engineered by ETs and how they had developed into becoming self aware prematurely. Perhaps this happened because some interloping group of ETs had intervened in the process. Whether such a group could be characterized as the tempting saboteur or the helpful liberator, who knows? It may even have been a natural process that was a function of our peculiar genetics which had confounded the expectations of whoever was overseeing the project/projects. This may sound pretty far out there, but to me it makes perfect sense. Far more sense than the usual interpretation, imho

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    Quote Posted by Edward Alexander (here)
    Here is the true story about Adam & Eve and what that all is about. Once and for all.

    Were Adam and Eve being "tricked" by the serpent to eat the Fruit of Knowledge from the Tree of Life - or maybe not?

    What they really did, and what that symbolizes, is that they lived under the rule of a Lesser God, a Evil Creator, which we still do, but they discovered the Qabalistic Tree of Life - it was not an actual real physical tree or apple, that was symbolism - and they gained access to the Fruit of Knowledge from discovering their spiritual aspects, and thus became aware of the difference between Good and Evil and themselves etc. The Serpent represents the Kundalini Rising which is an effect of Illumination and Enlightenment and which is needed to receive the "Fruit of Knowledge" from the "Tree of Life". The Serpent was NOT Evil, it was quite the opposite, the God of the Bible was the Evil one, and god filled with rage when he saw that the people represented by Adam and Eve had found the "secret" to their own existence, spiritual reality, their Soul, and thus ultimately a path to be Free from the Physical Prison planet they were in.

    So as summary:
    Adam & Eve = Mankind

    Tree = Kabbalistic Tree of Life

    Apple = Fruit of Knowledge - symbol of the understanding gained from "climbing" the tree of life.

    Serpent = Kundalini energ / spirit, which ascends ("climbs the tree") to reveal the Fruit of Knowledge (truth, understanding).

    The whole story of Adam & Eve represents mankinds practice with the Kabbala, a spiritual system for development and insights, and what the results of such practice will be - the ability to understand more ("knowing the difference between good and evil", as per the bible, meaning being more conscious and aware of ones own actions and thus able to get on the "right path"). It is an esoteric and symbolic text, not meant to be taken literal as actual events or the way the story is presented.

    Below is an illustration of this Kabbalistic Tree of Life, and the different parts it consists of, where you start at bottom and work ("climb", as the serpent on its way up the tree) up towards the top (where you reach "The Fruit of Knowledge" - Highest Wisdom).


    And here is a video introduction briefly explaining the meaning of the different parts of the Tree of Life:


    What all this really means, is that "God", an evil tyrant entity/deity NOT the Real God above All, wanted mankind to stay ignorant in the lowest part of the Tree of Life, only being present here in the physical world, and not gain the experience and understanding of all aspects above which would make mankind free. That's why this biblical "God" got angry when Mankind discovered the secret of how to gain this Understanding all the way to the top of the Tree of Life, where the Fruit of Knowledge is.

    Hope this cleared up all these misunderstandings about the Adam & Eve story and what its symbolizing.
    In the words of William Cooper.
    "This (the above) is taught in every masonic temple in this land, every secret brotherhood and every secret society".
    This teaching is satanic at it's core and came through the ages via the ancient mystery schools (which includes the kabbalah) through the teachings of theosophy (Blavatsky and bailey) and now through the new age teachings.
    If you are interested watch the video's "Age of Deceit" and "aquarius - the age of evil" on youtube.
    (i did not post them here because they have been posted on avalon more than once)

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    Dang, So that's it now? I have to believe that? All the foggy ideas cleared up with better ideas.

    I was freer believing nothing.

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    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
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    Have you read The 13th Stone by R Lewis, Edward?
    Bump for Uncle Ed.
    this book is hard to find. Any ideas?

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    Im late to this I know, but the video is showing as unavailable! Any ideas?

    Also a good summary of the Adam & Eve thing, a couple of years ago me and a few friends came to the same conclusion about the Tree of Life and learning the difference between Good and Evil etc. I havent read the Bible but have learnt enough of it to see the amount of (potential) contradictions between the content and what most people assume of it.

    Still not sure where I sit on the Serpent business.

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    This may or may not be interesting. Depends on how interested you are in getting the story straight. It IS a story.
    There are two distinct trees in the garden.
    One is the 'Tree of the knowledge of good and evil' which is a merism (if you can take the ancient Hebrew scholars word for it) meaning essentially 'everything'. Good and evil, and everything in between.
    And eating the fruit of that tree, or the effects of 'knowing everything', is death. What they meant by 'death'? I don't know. Conceptual/dualistic thinking seems pretty dead to me.
    So that's a possibility.

    And eating of the OTHER tree, the 'Tree of Life', was a guarantee of eternal life. What they meant by 'life', I don't know either. But freedom from belief systems, and organizing thoughts that limit
    our range of pure experience is a possibility. That would include the OP and all of the speculation that follows it.

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