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    Quote Posted by Lucid Jia (here)
    Massive CME just happened...

    Dont know if aimed at Earth?
    Well its not aiming at us with a gun if that's what you're implying. CME's occur very regularly, there's nothing to worry about.

    Quote CMEs are randomly distributed across the surface of the Sun. Therefore, very few are aimed at Earth. Most of the energy of a CME that does arrive at Earth is deflected by The Earth's Magnetosphere.
    http://son.nasa.gov/tass/content/solarwind.htm

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    This is the last image from SOHO : http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/...e/eit_284/512/ , don't know the impact to us???? Bashi........please any comments?

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    Oh-oh...Solar Filaments are back.... from spaceweather.com:

    Quote SOLAR FILAMENT: A long, dark magnetic filament is snaking over the sun's northeastern limb today, providing some relief to an otherwise blank solar disk. Pete Lawrence sends this picture from his backyard observatory in Selsey, UK:





    Unlike many filaments, which soar up high in lovely arch- and twister-shapes, this one seems to be hugging the stellar surface. That doesn't mean the region is uninteresting, though. NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory has been recording plenty of activity in the filament's vicinity: movie. Readers with solar telescopes are encouraged to monitor developments.
    Here you can see it really good:

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    There's more on the solar filament on spaceweather.com:

    Quote MAGNETIC MEGA-FILAMENT: For the fourth day in a row, a dark magnetic filament is bisecting the sun's northeastern quadrant. Measuring more than 100,000 km from end to end, it is literally the biggest thing on the face of our star. NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory has a good view of the structure; click on the image to set the scene in motion:




    The 2-hour time lapse movie recorded around 0600 UT on May 20th shows relatively cool plasma flowing through the filament's magnetic walls. Long, active filaments like this have been known to grow unstable and erupt, producing a type of spotless flare called a "Hyder flare." If that happens now, Earth would likely feel some effects from the blast because the filament is turning to face our planet. Readers with solar telescopes are encouraged to monitor developments.
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    Apparently at about 1620-1630 MDT a large seismographic reading hit almost every station in the world!

    From other Forum:
    I called the USGS Alaska Science Center in Anchorage and spoke to one of the scientists. He wasn't aware of the event and I had to send him the actual seismograph website. He wasn't sure what in the world is going on and sent it to his superiors for further analysis. Personally, I wonder what the implications to us may be. I live in Jacksonville, FL where the seismograph readings were the worst. I never felt a thing, but I don't really think I would have if this were caused by some type of solar radiation. What exactly does a Hyder flare release? Are there any gravitational disturbances that can cause it? The magnetosphere has been going wild the last two days. I don't know... any answers?

    link to aslwww.cr.usgs.gov

    There is a strong possibility in my opinion that this could be what's happening. I was watching the magnetosphere website today and yesterday and it was going wild with a completely distorted North/South pole matrix until late in the day when it finally calmed down. I haven't checked it again, but it did correlate. However, I was talking with another GLPer on this thread that said this has been happening for the last month and not all of them had correlated to a CME. I have to keep an eye on it from now on. She said she wasn't sure and apparently there's no history file to check on and see for ourselves. We'll just have to sit and watch to see if it happens again.

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    Quote Posted by Emmanuel (here)
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    Do we have recorded any activity from the sun? or this is outside our visual spectrum? could the waves have started hitting earth?

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    SOLAR BLAST: A magnetic filament on the sun erupted yesterday, May 24th, and the blast hurled a coronal mass ejection (CME) in the general direction of Earth. NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory recorded the action around the blast site in 10xHDTV resolution:

    Shortly after the eruption, the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) spotted a billion-ton CME racing away from the sun: movie. NOAA forecasters say there is a 35% chance of geomagnetic activity on May 27th when the cloud delivers a glancing blow to Earth's magnetic field

    It appears that what is expected is K6, we had that few weeks ago

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    Astrotometry.com gives a very good explanation of what effects we can expect on earth from this filament on the sun and the possible mitigation of expected effects due to a rise of solar x-ray activity.

    Last edited by yiolas; 27th May 2010 at 21:17.
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    Sorry, Yiolas, but I could not find what you were refering to. Could you give a link?

    Could the 7.2 Quake this afternoon in the Vanuatu Isles be connected to this CME arriving? It might be worse tomorrow:

    http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/ftpdir/latest/daypre.txt

    Quote rediction_dates: 2010 May 27 2010 May 28 2010 May 29
    :Geomagnetic_A_indices:
    A_Fredericksburg 15 20 18
    A_Planetary 15 22 20
    Quote # Probability of Geomagnetic conditions at Middle Latitude
    rob_Mid:
    Mid/Active 50 50 40
    Mid/Minor_Storm 15 15 10
    Mid/Major-Severe_Storm 5 5 5
    #
    # Probability of Geomagnetic conditions at High Latitudes
    rob_High:
    High/Active 50 50 45
    High/Minor_Storm 25 25 20
    High/Major-Severe_Storm 15 15 10
    #
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    Hi Morning Star,
    Sorry about that. The link is http://www.youtube.com/user/astrotom.../0/GO90LjVgtbc
    Blessings,
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    I guess this might be what they are talking about (unless there is more to come):

    from Red Puma, Swiss Global EQ list:

    Quote 27May2010 20:48:00.3 13.6S 166.7E 32 M =6.4 M*NEI VANUATU ISLANDS 2149
    27May2010 20:47:58.1 13.6S 166.8E 33 mb=6.0 M*GSR VANUATU ISLANDS 2129

    27May2010 19:16:47.1 14.1S 166.7E 80 mb=4.9 A*EMS VANUATU ISLANDS 2007
    27May2010 19:16:40.3 13.9S 166.6E 33 mb=5.1 M*GSR VANUATU ISLANDS 2005

    27May2010 17:45:27.5 13.7S 166.7E 33 mb=5.4 M*GSR VANUATU ISLANDS 1928

    27May2010 17:24:28.8 13.9S 166.6E 80 mb=5.5 A*EMS VANUATU ISLANDS 1928
    27May2010 17:24:21.5 13.8S 166.6E 33 mb=6.0 M*GSR VANUATU ISLANDS 1923
    27May2010 17:24:23.9 13.9S 166.6E 35 M =5.7 M*NEI VANUATU ISLANDS 1823

    27May2010 17:14:45.2 13.6S 166.5E 33 MS=7.1 M *GSR VANUATU ISLANDS 1843
    27May2010 17:14:49.1 13.7S 166.5E 40 Mw=7.4 M*EMS VANUATU ISLANDS 1747
    Signals recorded in Switzerland
    27May2010 17:14:48.4 13.7S 166.5E 36 M =7.4 M*NEI VANUATU ISLANDS 1735
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    Quote Posted by yiolas (here)
    Hi Morning Star,
    Sorry about that. The link is http://www.youtube.com/user/astrotom.../0/GO90LjVgtbc
    I am not convinced by the source:
    " The solar x-ray activity has softened the (tectonic) plates and has mitigated the effects of an EQ"
    Coronal holes on the sun indicating the areas on Earth where an EQ will happen?

    Thats, for my ears, absolute nonsense.
    The guy has a multitude of factors at hand to play with, and he picks the ones which seem to fit.
    A big mix of everything and nothing.
    I think this is more a belief issue, than solid proof.

    In case that the recent Vanuatu quake is seen as proof: He predicted a tsunami and a large one in California. Where is it?
    just some food for thought...




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    Hi Bashi and MorningSong Sorry about the name. I had a long day and it was late at night when I finally sat at the computer.

    Thanks for your imput Bashi. The Astrotometry guy does state that his is a research project in progress. He has also asked for input for his hypothesis. Nevertheless, I find it quite interesting that he is trying to find correlations between the positioning of solar holes and their behaviors and EQ's on earth . It seems that he's getting the hemispheres right, but he still needs work on the exact locations.
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    Quote Posted by yiolas (here)
    Hi Bashi and MorningSong Sorry about the name. I had a long day and it was late at night when I finally sat at the computer.

    Thanks for your imput Bashi. The Astrotometry guy does state that his is a research project in progress. He has also asked for input for his hypothesis. Nevertheless, I find it quite interesting that he is trying to find correlations between the positioning of solar holes and their behaviors and EQ's on earth . It seems that he's getting the hemispheres right, but he still needs work on the exact locations.
    Well, i try not to be in debunking mode, but with him it is difficult.
    I can understand that something might happen if there is a maximum of whatever. But he starts being worried about a "slope" long after the max has passed and a min is on the horizon.
    With this kind of argumentation you can create virtually anything at any time.
    So i am not convinced now. Maybe he will refine his technique in time. Till then...


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    On the basis that there was 4 CME in 2 days (22-24) we are not doing so bad, we had a couple of electromagnetic storms (one still going) but still here

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    Yes, you're right, we are still here! As long as the sun remains calm. But the mag sure is weak right now. Lots of charged particles flowing in.

    From http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/forecast.html

    Quote IB. Solar Activity Forecast: Solar activity is expected to be very
    low.

    IIA. Geophysical Activity Summary 27/2100Z to 28/2100Z:
    The geomagnetic field has been quiet to unsettled. An interplanetary
    shock was observed at the ACE spacecraft at 28/0203Z. Boulder
    magnetometer observed a 33 nT sudden impulse at 28/0259Z, the
    activity is most likely due to the arrival of the CME observed on
    May 23.

    IIB. Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is
    expected to be at predominately unsettled levels with a chance for
    active periods on day one (29 May) as the CMEs from 23-24 May
    continue to be geo-effective. Unsettled to active levels are likely
    are on days two and three (30-31 May) due to the arrival of a
    recurrent coronal hole high speed stream. In addition, there is a
    slight chance for isolated minor storm periods during the high speed
    stream interval.

    III. Event Probabilities 29 May-31 May
    Class M 01/01/01
    Class X 01/01/01
    Proton 01/01/01
    PCAF Green

    IV. Penticton 10.7 cm Flux
    Observed 28 May 073
    Predicted 29 May-31 May 073/073/072
    90 Day Mean 28 May 078

    V. Geomagnetic A Indices
    Observed Afr/Ap 27 May 001/004
    Estimated Afr/Ap 28 May 008/010
    Predicted Afr/Ap 29 May-31 May 018/020-020/025-012/020

    VI. Geomagnetic Activity Probabilities 29 May-31 May
    A. Middle Latitudes
    Active 40/55/30
    Minor storm 10/10/10
    Major-severe storm 05/05/05
    B. High Latitudes
    Active 45/50/35
    Minor storm 20/25/15
    Major-severe storm 10/10/10
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    AS THE SUN AWAKENS, NASA KEEPS A WARY EYE ON SPACE WEATHER

    June 4, 2010: Earth and space are about to come into contact in a way that's new to human history. To make preparations, authorities in Washington DC are holding a meeting: The Space Weather Enterprise Forum at the National Press Club on June 8th.



    Many technologies of the 21st century are vulnerable to solar storms. [more]

    Richard Fisher, head of NASA's Heliophysics Division, explains what it's all about:

    "The sun is waking up from a deep slumber, and in the next few years we expect to see much higher levels of solar activity. At the same time, our technological society has developed an unprecedented sensitivity to solar storms. The intersection of these two issues is what we're getting together to discuss."

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    SPACE.com – Wed Jun 9, 6:00 pm ET

    The sun is about to get a lot more active, which could have ill effects on Earth. So to prepare, top sun scientists met Tuesday to discuss the best ways to protect Earth's satellites and other vital systems from the coming solar storms.

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