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31st October 2011 03:17
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Re: What technologies, activities or concepts will be made obsolete by Free Energy
well, thank u all for helping me wake up! ill try and work on a visions post but im still trying to get my head around all this first....... it feels very liberating to finally understand the full extent of the FE conundrum because it explains fully why the world is the way it is....... oddly, its as if ive known it all along but just failed to properly grasp it completely.........knowing and properly understanding this stuff is an incredibly powerful thing - especially if u combine it with loving intent....how on earth anyone could understand all this and arrive at the conclusion that it should be suppressed, used for personal financial gain, control and the promotion of scarcity has to be stark raving bonkers!!! its just wrong on so many levels........and these controlling families have been at this crap for what - over 6000 years???? my god it really is pathetic........
i read recently in one of Wade's posts that the idea of a loving, abundant, heavenly reality make certain individuals sick at the thought and they would be far happier in a 'bladrunnerish' reality - well i tried watching that movie for the first time not so long ago and had to switch it off after an hour because it was making me feel sick .......what u do with this kind of knowledge once aquired seems to be the tricky bit.......i for one am glad Wade and Ilie have taken the path that they have because i would still be very much asleep otherwise....
there's another few thing that irritate me that would disappear - rubbish movies, reality tv and the pursuit of fame......
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31st October 2011 04:13
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Re: What technologies, activities or concepts will be made obsolete by Free Energy
You were already awake, Tyler.
A lot of this FE stuff is hard to wrap your head around, on many levels. That is why there are all of those layers! 
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart
You chased down Brian O, and when he directed you to my site, you dove in and came up for air months later….not very many people do that, young man. You were already thirsting for the truth, thirsting for what FE can bring about like nothing else I know, which is healing for humanity and the planet. I do not tell you this for your ego’s sake, and you already know that, but to tell you that the awareness that you are building is important! You have stated before that you think the number is something like one-in-a-thousand that even seem to be willing to think in the directions that a thread like has been traveling on. Yes, the numbers are like that. So, when somebody like you begins to see what I am talking about, your awareness needs to be nurtured. When I get one in the bag, I am reluctant to let it go. 
All this FE and healing the planet stuff is pretty new to you. It is new to all of us at some stage. Some come to it earlier than others, but when you begin to grasp the immensity of what it means, it is not easy to turn your back on it. It is the blessing and curse of being aware of this information. I ask you to just let this information roll around in your head in the coming months, and let it gestate. There will be plenty more for you to chew on in the coming year, but please just allow the information to gently sit in your awareness for now. The sinking in part will take the rest of your life. I have been living with the FE potential for 25 years, and I realize that I am just scratching the surface in all of my efforts, writings and imaginings.
As Cara stated, while the outcome is far from certain, what is certain is a very dark road ahead if we do not solve the energy issue, and soon, so why not take a chance on heaven, instead of settle for the certainty and familiarity of hell?
People like Adam think that it may well be too late for humanity on this round, but I think that we will get a happy ending, and maybe in my lifetime. I strongly encourage you to keep paying attention to where this conversation goes. As far as I am concerned, the important conversation has not begun yet, but I hope to get it going next year. Thank you for lending your awareness to this issue. If you know of a bigger one, let me know, OK? 
Best,
Wade
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31st October 2011 06:52
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Re: What technologies, activities or concepts will be made obsolete by Free Energy
thanks Wade 
a healed planet obviously has to become a major goal here, and it would happen much faster with FE than without.......this idea is indeed very new to me .......not so long ago i figured out i could do something about making my own reality more heavenly but the problem with my vision was that although my lot would be better, the rest of the planet would still be in dire straits and that would make me feel guilty and irritated every time i had to venture back into it or hear and read anything about it.....and bar setting up shop in a jungle somewhere that was always going to happen........but why settle for a poor mans heaven which is ultimately what mine would be??? why not try and make the whole world a heavenly reality too??
i wouldnt be too inclined to go along with Adams pessimistic views.....i listened to his interview with Scott there a couple of weeks ago and he sounds to me to have far too much rage going on for someone as intelligent as that.....that rage aint gona help at all but i totally empathize with him for feeling like that after what he has gone through......ive arrived at this level of awareness almost completely unscathed and from hearing and reading about other peoples' journeys like Denis and Wades, i feel very fortunate to have done so! surely maintaining a positive, forgiving, loving mindset and having a go at making this place better is worth a try no matter how bad the situation is???? aren't we talking about the biggest issue of them all here after all!! what could be of more importance than love and energy?!
i dont even find myself angry at the GC's - just baffled at their naivety..........but naivety can easily be forgiven because i would have once done exactly as they have done too.....didnt you have some table on your website Wade about the different stages of the souls development? not sure what level the GC's are at but it must be very infantile! too busy being lords of the manor for much else of any real importance.....understandable i suppose but deary me what they fail to realize is that no matter how good they think they have it they have ultimately fallen insanely short of what this planet and their lives on it could be like........
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31st October 2011 14:56
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Re: What technologies, activities or concepts will be made obsolete by Free Energy
Hi Tyler:
The table that you are thinking of is here:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#age
Yes, the power-and-control game is one that younger souls enjoy playing. But, as you say, it could be argued that they are merely masters of a game that all people have been playing. It is past time to grow up. Earth won’t be hosting a sentient species for much longer that is bent on playing those fear games and can take out the ecosphere while they are at it. Not many planets get to host life as we know it, and we are not allowed to mess up the game for everybody, although it can appear that way right now. Big changes are coming. But, this power-and-control game is deeply baked, so deeply that anthropologists call it “human nature,” and games that we will never stop playing. I beg to differ.
On Adam, yes, he has been scathed. Dennis has, I have, Brian was, Greer has, and so on. Unlike those guys, I have not had to survive a murder attempt. Getting one a year like Adam has experienced is far more than anybody should have to endure. It is his path. You should have seen me at points on my journey. I was a mess for a long time. The sledgehammer hurts, but being attacked by friends and family, while the sledgehammer was coming down, was the worst part for me.
When Dennis did his Philly show in front of five thousand people, one of my pals said that it looked like he had a huge emotional spike in his chest that he was trying to wrench free. I did not notice it that way, but I was probably too close to the situation. I have had Dennis and Brian tell me about the murder attempts that they survived, and I have seen Greer break down when talking about how they took out his team after those Congressional hearings:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#adamiak
Greer seems to have overcompensated and gone über-warrior, but I have also heard that he has been subjected to spook stuff that has almost made him a different person. The people playing at those levels should not have survived their experiences. The murder attempts were intended to take them out, but even when people survive the experiences, the scars run pretty deeply. I wish for deep emotional healing for all of those heroes. They have more than my respect; they have my awe. I was there for the darkest part of Dennis’s journey, and it was like going to Mordor. I was there, and I can barely imagine what Dennis lived through. Dennis and Adam are the only two people I know of whose life’s story would simply be unbelievable to almost all listeners (and I would eagerly watch the movies of Brian's and Greer's lives - but not the Hollywood versions, though
). But, when you pursue FE and planetary healing, the stories are all too true, I am sorry to say. For my part, they are forgiven for any anger that they seem to have. Some is not anger, but it is something else that is not easy to put a finger on, and could be considered the directedness of being on a mission.
I don’t have their courage, and don’t want to sit on the hot seat again. I am looking for lambs. I don’t want to ask people to risk their lives, and I have a pretty good idea of the kind of behavior that attracts the murder attempts, and I am going to avoid them if I can, and they will take me out before long before they take out somebody like Ilie, so I can play the canary in the coal mine. I think that ten thousand lambs can accomplish what ten Indiana Jones’s can. I have not found ten Indiana Joneses, and I have yet to find ten thousand lambs, but I am trying. 
Best,
Wade
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1st November 2011 04:03
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Re: What technologies, activities or concepts will be made obsolete by Free Energy
I’ll butt out of this thread for now, and put the related post to the above on the general purpose thread.
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1st November 2011 07:14
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Re: What technologies, activities or concepts will be made obsolete by Free Energy
some of the older headings may cover these but i dont think they have been specifically mentioned before.........
clocks and the 365 day calendar we use........neon.........nylon and polyester.............halloween and all the mind numbing ridiculousness that goes with it............what happens to sport if there is no longer me vs you? does sport go too? maybe it will stay around purely for personal enjoyment ......... candles (made from paffafin wax) ..........whaling ...........coral reef bombing ..........cyanide fishing ........ cetacean beaching? getting fired from crap jobs you hated ......... guinness and captain morgans
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1st November 2011 10:45
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Re: What technologies, activities or concepts will be made obsolete by Free Energy
Planned obsolescence will become obsolete...
Since there will be no need to make more and more "profits" (they will become obsolete too
) all items will be designed and made to last generations... There is also no need for everybody to stuff their dwellings with items rarely used. Like hiking gear etc. Such items could be pooled in one place for everybody to use freely. If all choose to take care for this common good, volume of waste would decrease dramaticaly...
Best wishes and
FREE ENERGY NOW!
Robert

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1st November 2011 11:49
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Re: What technologies, activities or concepts will be made obsolete by Free Energy
Hi:
Scarcity-based thinking will become obsolete. It is scarcity-based thinking to think about waste and hoarding. Think of Star Trek’s replicators to get an idea of what I am referring to. People could have as much stuff as they wanted, or as little, and it really would not matter. Earth would not be harmed to get it, and it would never become waste to burden the ecosphere, so it really would not matter much. As long as people were not dominating the ecosphere to either get the materials for their goodies, or burdening the ecosphere with their leftovers (right into the recycler it goes) or by their lifestyles, it really would not matter.
I even saw Brian O say that personal helicopters would be a bad idea. Well, only in an unenlightened implementation. In this world, personal transportation is a cinch:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1
and it could easily become that way in this world, with FE, anti-gravity and other technologies and materials kept under wraps. In this vision of mine to get all truck drivers home at night:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/trucking.htm
I was just taking advantage of communication technology that existed at the time, to coordinate trucks and loads. The technology is here today to have the equivalent of air-traffic control and built-in navigation in flying “cars” so that there is not a risk of collision. All transportation would be silent, safe, and unobtrusive. For goods that are fitted to a person’s body, like hiking gear (
), they would use their gear for their lifetime, and then it goes into the recycler when done, or given to somebody else, or the gear molds itself to each body, and so on. Some goods would be “communal” like the communication grid and perhaps transportation and food production, but probably not much else would be, although I can see that peacekeeping “force” of grandmothers to ensure that FE was not misused in the early days of the transition.
Yes, Tyler, competitive sports arise from the scarcity idea, and go way back to what anthropologists call “elimination contests.” There is always one ultimate winner, and everybody else loses. Capitalism works the same way. All of those competitive sports, competitive games, nation-states competing, businesses competing, planned obsolescence, and so on, quickly become seen as relics of a scarcity-based world. Of course, fighting over resources, which is at the root of all wars, quickly becomes an obsolete idea.
Most of the ways that we think about our lives on Earth would become obsolete. Even a thread like this is only some early-stage groping toward the idea of abundance, but it is a good start.
Best,
Wade
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1st November 2011 12:43
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Re: What technologies, activities or concepts will be made obsolete by Free Energy
When the grandmothers have gathered the paper notes to support the inventors, the manufacture and the implementation of free energy devices in enough homes to facilitate the cascade of this realisation I have two questions. Where do we send the money? Who will protect and defend this movement? Lets believe what this would look like as well. Best Wishes.
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1st November 2011 14:12
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Re: What technologies, activities or concepts will be made obsolete by Free Energy
Hi Motherlove:
There are many ways that it could happen, but it really depends on public awareness. The thousands of lambs have to first create some harmonic effects, generated by their enlightened awareness. What I learned over the years is that an inventor with a gizmo is virtually worthless in today’s environment. They are easily picked off, one at a time, with the carrots and sticks:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make
if they don’t fall prey to their foibles and those of their allies before they ever become a “problem” that needs to be dealt with:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls
The inventors are not the important part of any upcoming FE movement, paradoxically. That is part of the problem. Inventor-itis is an early-stage awareness that must be overcome for this to get very far along. The problem really is not one of technology, but of humanity’s collective integrity and sentience. More people need to find their inner strength and integrity:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn
What I envision is that if enough people can truly wake up, making the FE devices and bringing them to the public will be the easy part. The problem is that humanity is a great, slumbering beast at this time, and when people begin to wake up, they almost invariably hack at branches and ignore the root. The root of our life on Earth is the energy situation and always has been.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions
Until enough of us can focus on the situation in an enlightened manner, this train is going nowhere.
When money begins changing hands to get practical on the FE front, if it needs to come to that, the ideal is a publicly-transparent charity, with an open-source technology that nobody is trying to get rich off of. That has to be the beginning orientation, or it is doomed to failure. I could go on a lot longer on this subject, but I am actually hard at work on my Brian essay this morning, before I start my fifteen-hour day at the office. Thank God I am fasting! 
Best,
Wade
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1st November 2011 16:34
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