EXACT DATE for the ascension according to the Maya. Not 12/21/12 and not 10/28/11!

[The Truth Is In There]

Posted by redlotus (here)

Posted by The Truth Is In There (here)

Posted by nearing (here)
We don't know that exactly what Calleman was predicting from his research on the MC didn't happen. He never said there would be mass ascension or the earth would fall apart, etc. It was the end of an era of consciousness and the next day, the 29th was the beginning of another era of consciousness. Can anyone say that did not happen? I think not.

We may well be in a completely different Consciousness mode than we ever were before and by all accounts this new mode is a very beneficial one for human kind.

I know things have begun to feel better, lighter (less heavy) and more positive for me since then. Could that be the reason? Maybe.

the way i understood calleman is that he said time would disappear and we would live in the moment. he could have meant that metaphorically or literally. if he meant it literally then his date was wrong because it obviously hasn't happened yet and if he meant it metaphorically then his understanding of time is wrong. either way there's an error in his reasoning.

i don't know if you have read wilcock's "source field investigations" book yet but in it he describes pretty well how he thinks space/time and time/space work. imo what's going to happen at some point in "time" -in the blink of an eye- is that our perception of time will disappear -literally- because we'll have the full multidimensional abilities of our higher self while still in a physical body. what that means is that we'll be able to shift our consciousness in and out of this vehicle, while retaining full consciousness, simply by changing our perspective, and i guess you agree that in spirit state all exists now.

just imagine that the fractal spiral in the picture below is time. as we move closer to the center time is speeding up and at some point the acceleration becomes so fast that the illusion of time collapses and we realize that all exists now. i don't believe that happened on oct 28th or on 11/11/11 but rest assured that at some point it will.


http://image69.webshots.com/469/0/33...7VNHQwv_ph.jpg

You are right, I agree with your reasoning, and I felt that also about this October 28 date. However, the transformation may not happen in a blink of an eye, IMHO.
I feel that we are gently being adjusted, downloaded, or upgraded. All my life I never really cared about time, clocks, schedules, and defiantly tried to live 'outside' of this construct as much as possible.
However, as I got older, I did adjust as best as I could to manage my life here, yet, there is a part of me that DID NOT become a part of this matrix. That was evident to me this Nov 2-5, when suddenly my car battery died, (could not reset the car clock) and all my iPhone data disappeared all on the same day. I felt like I was suspended from linear time!

I could not tell what 'time' it was when away from home. Due to the daylight-time-change here, it was even hard to navigate it just by looking at Nature. I suddenly felt incredibly alone disconnected from this Reality during those strange days. (hard to describe it better here...)

Looking back, I am convinced that my Higher Self played a trick on me: giving me a short glimpse -a preview?- of living in NO-time. It is obvious, that I was not totally ready for it just yet, or I would have disappeared, who knows? Interestingly, that day (Nov 1-2) there was a 6.9 Earthquake 300 km from me, originating from a deep sea super volcano...

what you miss is that the transformation is speeding up, like a fractal spiral getting smaller and smaller towards the center. at one point the acceleration is so fast that the transformation will seemingly become instantaneous. we're not at that point yet but it's drawing ever closer.

living in the moment, without the perception of time, is not the same as being unaware of what time it is. you'll also not be disconnected from this reality but you'll be connected to everything. you're disconnected now. you'll be able to experience anything, anytime just by shifting your perspective, because ultimately you are everything. that is what awaits us.

[buckminster fuller]

Posted by The Truth Is In There (here)

Posted by buckminster fuller (here)
I'd like to ask a few simple questions on top of that statement:

How is our potential expressed if there is "nothing to be concerned about" ?
What meaning to life, to creation would it bring about ?
What's the room left for creativity, for co-creation if all is due and all is answered ?

i hope my previous post answers your questions. what really matters is "how does what i do/feel influence or change myself?"

what you need to realize is that the source is INSIDE and the reflection is OUTSIDE. so by worrying about the reflection you increase the "disharmony" inside which creates more to worry about outside.

when, on the other hand, you stop worrying and simply accept whatever happens as part of the divine plan you create harmony and coherence inside (the source) and subsequently the outside (the reflection) becomes more harmonious as well. the law of attraction expresses this.

have you noticed that certain "negative" things only happen in your life (repeatedly) until you learned a lesson? could that be the purpose of "negativity", to teach us something? is that a bad thing?

Terminology is everything really..
I guess the actual problem lies in the fact that you're (I'm) mixing up 2 terms implying quite different things :

"worrying" definitely implies a dose of pathos, of emotional discharge, of psychological circular reasoning (no truth in here). It is a blockade, both energically and materially. No need for it really..

"being concerned", is more on the technological reasoning side of things. As "being aware" of something, allows to elaborate, develop, create... By aknowledging the world around us and getting involved not only do we place ourselves in a position that can promote the evolution of the self, but we set up examples for others.

Our 3d job is not over, and will not if we don't bring about the needed corrections to our ways. Oneness is a state, not a condition.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by greybeard (here)
David Icke more or less said stop playing the game.
Many of the "problems" of the world have been caused by people trying to fix it.
Gandhi through non-violence brought about positive change in India.
In essence we raise out personal vibration by letting go of anger, frustration, judging and negative emotions then we raise the vibration of all.
The actions that tend to fuel fear and frustration are diminished by raising of consciousness.
That is why David Icke, Marcel Messing and other say that what the so called "controllers" fear most is an awakening spiritually of the masses.
In a spiritually high vibration world selfish egoistic actions are not possible.
In the words of one sage " love all serve all"
"Be the change we want to see."
Chris
Namaste (I greet the God in you)

Gandhi got taken for the same ride that the revolutionaries did in America.
Britain still controls all of its old colonies, they just let them think they are free.
Much cheaper that way too.
Think of this, when there was an empire, Britain had one vote in the UN.
Now, how many do they have? 50?
Better than a veto.

[jorr lundstrom]

Dont worry, we will find a solution. We always do. LOL

[sdafnom]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
Gandhi got taken for the same ride that the revolutionaries did in America.
Britain still controls all of its old colonies, they just let them think they are free.
Much cheaper that way too.
Think of this, when there was an empire, Britain had one vote in the UN.
Now, how many do they have? 50?
Better than a veto.

Dead on as always Sid.
Was is Nietzsche who said how much truth can you take?
Blunt and in your face. I like that.

Stavros

[NeverMind]

when, on the other hand, you stop worrying and simply accept whatever happens as part of the divine plan you create harmony and coherence inside (the source) and subsequently the outside (the reflection) becomes more harmonious as well. the law of attraction expresses this.

have you noticed that certain "negative" things only happen in your life (repeatedly) until you learned a lesson? could that be the purpose of "negativity", to teach us something? is that a bad thing?

In general, I totally agree, especially with the part highlighted in bold within the quote.
However, I do believe that it opens an honest and valid question (without the possibility of a definitive reply, obviously), namely, that this could be a post hoc interpretation of things. A reasoning read into events after they have happened - but not necessarily the truth.

The reason I say this is that I have seen too many cases in my practice - and, much more importantly, in my personal life - of people who seemed remarkably well balanced in their lives, joyous and productive people who were great assets to their community and who - this is most important - learned through openness and grateful joy. Extraordinary people.
Until some external event - or a series of events - kicked their lives into a million smithereens.

Most were remarkably stoic about it. But frankly, I cannot say that - and they cannot say - that they are "better" people now, or - again, this is most important - that they learned anything they had not learned, just as effectively, through joy and openness and gratefulness.

To anyone who does not know me this may sound as an awful lot of assumptions.
You'll have to take my word for it: they are not mindless assumptions. A LOT of thought - not based on blind materialism - has gone into this.

But, of course, like I said, at this point I see no possibility of a definitive answer to any of this - only speculation.

[OnyxKnight]

Posted by The Truth Is In There (here)
well, what day do we get then? wait for it.......11/9/11!

So ......

Have any of yall ascended yet?

[Eagle]

Posted by OnyxKnight (here)

Posted by The Truth Is In There (here)
well, what day do we get then? wait for it.......11/9/11!

So ......

Have any of yall ascended yet?

Yes, twice, but I ended up falling off the chair to much weight

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by OnyxKnight (here)

Posted by The Truth Is In There (here)
well, what day do we get then? wait for it.......11/9/11!

So ......

Have any of yall ascended yet?

I did, but I found that they don't have Jack Daniels or Harley Davidsons yet, so I came back to steal the plans for both.

[OnyxKnight]

Posted by Dig (here)
Yes, twice, but I ended up falling off the chair to much weight

Nah, thats just too much bad karma keeping you "down" lol.

:trollface:

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
I did, but I found that they don't have Jack Daniels or Harley Davidsons yet, so I came back to steal the plans for both.

And this place is supposed to be ascended consciousness wise? What a fraud.

You should create some nice change there Sid .

[apokalypse]

last 2 days i have been thinking if everyone going to ascend or moving toward 4d-5d earth then what about TPTB?. assume the whole thing is true and good aliens helping us get through, should TPTB/shadow government or bad et's give it up right now? clearly it's the end for them and they have these technology to see the future why they still came out with the statement "no evidence that any life exists outside our planet". at least they should have acknowledge aliens existed and at most preparing for the ascension but everything still the same controlling-manipulation.

i'm not surprise if this going to be Y2k all over agian

[buckminster fuller]

Posted by apokalypse (here)

i'm not surprise if this going to be Y2k all over agian

Have little doubts on that too..

[Kindred]

Please Note - I had not read this thread until today, as I had come upon Johan Oldenkamp's piece titled "The Bigger Picture" via another path about a week ago, and thought to save the pdf. However, I did Not read it, being as busy as I've been. I had to do a search on his last name to find this thread, buried as deep as it was.

I was prompted to do this search, as I had found this writing last night, and decided to read it. Lo and Behold, I found the date of Nov. 24th, 2011. Normally, I would have just chalked this up to another 'take' on a doomsday scenario.

However... I had a 'strange event' occur early Sat. morning, the 19th, as I lay in bed in something of a dream state. I 'heard' a voice say "5 days", and Then, an image of a snake opening it's mouth, and 'eating' it's tail appeared in my mind. This is Before I had even Read this piece!

Now, I'm Not going to say... "It's the beginning of end of the World!"... However, I do find it quite curious that these two events occurred so close together, and "just in the nick of time"(??!!)

I just thought it would be good to re-examine some previously arrived at conclusions - that some pieces are 'debunked', and therefore don't deserve any consideration. A valid question would be "Are there Any 'Truths' "Out There?"

Yes, I feel there are snippets of Truth among the chafe - we need to remain vigilant but discerning in our analysis.

In Unity and Peace... and Truth

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Kindred (here)
Please Note - I had not read this thread until today, as I had come upon Johan Oldenkamp's piece titled "The Bigger Picture" via another path about a week ago, and thought to save the pdf. However, I did Not read it, being as busy as I've been. I had to do a search on his last name to find this thread, buried as deep as it was.

I was prompted to do this search, as I had found this writing last night, and decided to read it. Lo and Behold, I found the date of Nov. 24th, 2011. Normally, I would have just chalked this up to another 'take' on a doomsday scenario.

However... I had a 'strange event' occur early Sat. morning, the 19th, as I lay in bed in something of a dream state. I 'heard' a voice say "5 days", and Then, an image of a snake opening it's mouth, and 'eating' it's tail appeared in my mind. This is Before I had even Read this piece!

Now, I'm Not going to say... "It's the beginning of end of the World!"... However, I do find it quite curious that these two events occurred so close together, and "just in the nick of time"(??!!)

I just thought it would be good to re-examine some previously arrived at conclusions - that some pieces are 'debunked', and therefore don't deserve any consideration. A valid question would be "Are there Any 'Truths' "Out There?"

Yes, I feel there are snippets of Truth among the chafe - we need to remain vigilant but discerning in our analysis.

In Unity and Peace... and Truth

Interesting.
You dreamed of the Ouroboros.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros

[kathymarie]

...shades of the Millenium group..........(an old favorite tv show of mine...in it's beginning anyway)....very interesting, Kindred...and the 24th is Thanksgiving Day here in the U.S.

[Eagle]

Posted by kathymarie (here)
...shades of the Millenium group..........(an old favorite tv show of mine...in it's beginning anyway)....very interesting, Kindred...and the 24th is Thanksgiving Day here in the U.S.

Does this mean I have to take the Turkey back ?

[WhiteFeather]

It wont be the end, it will be the new beginning. Thank god this 3 ring circus will come to an end.

[Camilo]

Dates come and go and here we are. Ascencion will take place when creator decides is the right tome to it, and that day we'll know it. Until then, be kind to yourself and others.

[Mandala]

Maybe it will be a disclosure event. Big mother ships over all the big cities. Compete with that Black Friday!

[Eagle]

Posted by Mandala (here)
Maybe it will be a disclosure event. Big mother ships over all the big cities. Compete with that Black Friday!

Could I buy a Mother ship on Amazon, my boy would love it. Go Black Friday!