EXACT DATE for the ascension according to the Maya. Not 12/21/12 and not 10/28/11!

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by jcocks (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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Dear All:

The world continues as it has been, massive problems continue to be unresolved, Planet Earth continues to be raped of her resources, the current mass extinction of species continues unabated, and hundreds of thousands of people believe still that they will magically be ascended out of all this.

This is simply an inability to confront reality.

Hmm.. I think it's more due to realisation that the problems we're facing are *BIG*, and not knowing of how to fix them... Not to mention the fact that the PTB play this whole issue up to be bigger than it is to serve their own agenda.

Thanks for your thoughtful post -- but I'd say the opposite: that the problems are much more serious than we're being led to believe in the mainstream media.

[christian]

I think you're both right

[jorr lundstrom]

Bill Ryan wrote:

Thanks for your thoughtful post -- but I'd say the opposite: that the problems are much more serious than we're being led to believe in the mainstream media.

I agree tutti with this statement. Do you know of anything that could convince

most people about this, before lead in high speed sings like skylarks all around?

[VaughnB]

Maybe it's the date you discover that giving is much more gratifying than taking, and to understand is more profound than being understood. There is no time in space, or place upon heaven and earth that will make you suddenly all knowing or pure.

Our destiny is our individual journeys and therein lies either our heaven or hell.

Find your truth.

[Centauro]

Every time we are going to make a choice either as an individual or as earthbound community, there exists thousand if not millions of possible futures, and it is then when we make that choice, that it is determined another alternative future. we forge our own future... so this why I say that there can not be a set day for ascension.

"Nothing is set, we live in a ever-changing universe"

Centauro

[another bob]

Greetings, Friends!

Well, I have been doing my own calculations, based on information I have been able to retrieve from the retrievable information zone (RIZ), and my conclusion is that the Mayan Calender is actually pointing to 2049 as the exact date of the ascension (at least for me). It might come earlier or later for others. The reason I am pretty sure about this is: about 10 years ago, I took one of those internet quizes that tell you when you are going to die, and mine told me 2049, so what more proof do I need? In the meantime, there are lots of things to do and eat, people to greet and meet, and stuff to read and wonder about. I'm going to make the most of it, and I hope you do too!

Blessings!

[Maia Gabrial]

We're all too fixated on dates. It would be nice to say that ascension is going to happen on such and such dates, but it seems as though it hasn't happened that way yet. But after watching "ancient predictions and prophesies" come and go without anything occuring, I've realized that these prophesies are like predicting the weather. Hit or miss....
So, what is it that we're missing in all of this? Obviously, the dates are not the important things here. IMO certain things have to align before anything occurs. It's not just "when the Moon is in the Seventh House"....EVERYTHING has to be in alignment, including personal issues and karma worked out.
But I also agree with Ilie that it may not be a Mass Ascension....unless the Divine Creator orders it. Maybe that's what the Superwave is going to manifest...? Maybe.... (I'm still wishing.... )
The whole point is that we'll have to wait and see about that.... However, no amount of wishing will bring about our ascensions. We have to actively take part in that....

[redlotus]

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
Bill Ryan wrote:

Thanks for your thoughtful post -- but I'd say the opposite: that the problems are much more serious than we're being led to believe in the mainstream media.

I agree tutti with this statement. Do you know of anything that could convince

most people about this, before lead in high speed sings like skylarks all around?

I just had to commend on your beautiful falcon pictures, jorr lundstrom: Maybe you know, that the falcon is a superior bird (I know I am using a wrong expression, but can't find a better one at the moment) to that of the eagle. It can and will out-fly, out-smart, out-live the eagle all the time.

While an eagle is a simple devouring preditor, the falcon is not. The falcon was the symbol of Ancient peoples, such as the Avars, Scythians, Huns, Etruscans, Sumarians, etc...

The western preditor-minded peoples adopted the symbol of the eagle - we all know why.

Back to topic: IMHO, Ascension is an ongoing process: in many cases this year we witnessed huge masses of beings, animals, birds and humans taken off -planet...(ie. disasters, wars, droughts, etc...) This process is intensifying as we speak.

I am still waiting for my personal tsunami - ... I had a premonition that I was standing - calmly- at the bottom floor of the ocean, and as I drew my next breath, the huge wall of ocean water covered me. I had no fear. I stand by this inner knowing, as my own truth. Other information gets filtered, and discarded. Mother Earth is birthing, we all are witnessing that, and she is as close as she can get, just about now, IMHO.

[Davidallany]

I losed all my hope about a bright futer

This is wonderful, you are on the right path, now all you have to do is lose fear, these two (hope and fear) are hindrance to living in the present moment, where all possibilities are present. Achieving this requires real efforts, training in observing the body, the mind then the heart in stages. Finally combining all three trainings in a 4th state of observation. I have attempted a simplistic explanation of this in post #77 on this thread. I must point out the importance of sitting meditation and reflection throughout the process. Once the training is stabilized, the state of enlightenment will be awakened, even for the shortest possible time, thus opening new windows on reality, at that point ascension at will or remaining at will could be possible.

[Sidney]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Thanks for your thoughtful post -- but I'd say the opposite: that the problems are much more serious than we're being led to believe in the mainstream media.

On top of that, these problems are deliberately created. It is a painful pill to swallow.

[jorr lundstrom]

Posted by starchild111 (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Thanks for your thoughtful post -- but I'd say the opposite: that the problems are much more serious than we're being led to believe in the mainstream media.

On top of that, these problems are deliberately created. It is a painful pill to swallow.

The alternative is worse. And its certainly not going to get easier by postponing it.

[shadowstalker]

Posted by Centauro (here)
I think we are changing - those who are becoming aware of what is real and in tune - as we all know here. but for what I see, it is happening on an individual basis little by little as we have to live and learn at our own pace. I don't think no one knows the time of a massive ascension or change. I don't think that is important. What is important is that we continue in this life learning and most of all helping others to see beyond their noses. Maybe there will be a mass ascension or change, I call it spontaneous evolution, but it makes sense that this event happens when we reach a critical mass sort of speak. In the mean time as I said before, keep growing in knowledge and pass this to others with love, patience and understanding their freedom to choose.

"Nothing is set, we live in a ever-changing universe"


Centauro



"Belief is what takes us there" "There is no fate, fate is what we make" "Happiness is easy"

Yes I wish more folks would come to understand this, but as you and many good folk have stated timimg is everything with the individual, and individual understanding, it also doesn't help with all the negative crap that sounds of for that date as well.

And it is with my understanding, and probably just my own. the fact that the calendars where not kept in-tacked as most where sequestered and or destroyed along with most of the codices by the church and there goons,(at least that's what we told) how can we even think that the answer is in tacked when the history is not.
Again who is interpreting and who over seas the interpreter. Coming from the white man
I would much rather believe what the mayens have said before any other at this point.

If there was to be a mass ascension it would probably be in the mere millions and nobody would notice (probably) The gov. would probably create a Tsunami to hide the numbers.

Still no answer on the 1,44,000 ay? It may have something to do with the ascension issue but we will never know, that in itself in still speculation.

[Limor Wolf]

Please ignor the theatrical presentation and listen to what is being said:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HYy8CqwWi9M

~*&^~*&

Limor

[Davidallany]

Thank you Limor. Jack has always been one my favorites, it seems outlandish, but what he says through her is true.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Limor (here)
Please ignor the theatrical presentation and listen to what is being said:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HYy8CqwWi9M

~*&^~*&

Limor

Very interesting video.
I just spoke about some of this yesterday.
He appears to be about 15 or so, or is it just me?


Update.
Oops, Not a he, but a young lady.
How embarrassment.

[Limor Wolf]

Its not a "he" ,its a "she",her real name is Sunet and she was 19 at the time (2007).I intend to post a thread about Desteniuniverse in the future.for now,most of their videos are banned from youtube.

just for the sake of hearing her as 'she' and not as 'he : https://youtube.com/watch?v=2-dwB...eature=related

But thats off - topic!

[shadowstalker]

Posted by Limor (here)
Its not a "he" ,its a "she",her real name is Sunet and she was 19 at the time (2007).I intend to post a thread about Desteniuniverse in the future.for now,most of their videos are banned from youtube.

just for the sake of hearing her as 'she' and not as 'he : https://youtube.com/watch?v=2-dwB...eature=related

But thats off - topic!

Why are they banned from youtube, dont worry i have the one posted here in my watch later list, i'll watch it when i am able.

[Limor Wolf]

Shadowstalker,
Youtube gave this reason: “This account has been terminated due to repeated or severe violations of our Community Guidelines...”.
desteni say: YouTube does not state any specific reasons. Any appeals have been denied as well.

To me ,there is a great distinction between the first desteniuniverse material of 2007-2008 and since than.and I do not in anyway support or resonate with them at all.I do not endorse or want to promote what videos or ideas they advertise today. It is something like a cult. but back than they were the first ones to open my eyes,especially with what was happening to me and what I was going through back than.

The main message of this video posted here is that the prophecy of 2012 is not real.nothing is going to happen to the existance and to this world that is going to save us or project us miraculously to a fourth density dimension...

[Davidallany]

Its not a "he" ,its a "she",her real name is Sunet and she was 19 at the time (2007).I intend to post a thread about Desteniuniverse in the future.for now,most of their videos are banned from youtube.

Achuti Limor, the entity speaking through her is called Jack.

Thank you Limor. Jack.......outlandish, but what he says through her is true.

[transiten]

Shadowstalker asked:

"Still no answer on the 1,44,000 ay? It may have something to do with the ascension issue but we will never know, that in itself in still speculation"

144 originates form the Fibonacci number system: 1+1=2, 2+1=3, 3+2=5, 5+3=8 and so on. The meaning of the symbology is another story.