EXACT DATE for the ascension according to the Maya. Not 12/21/12 and not 10/28/11!

[The Truth Is In There]

the exact date for the ascension is known since thousands of years, has been hidden in plain sight and it is neither 12/21/12 nor 10/28/11.

why do i say this? because it became obvious to me today after a few hints from my higher self. bear with me and i'll try to explain why the one i propose is the most likely date.

1. what's the difference between 12/21/12 and 10/28/11?

the 12/21/12 date is the end of the mayan long count (5125 years) and supposedly the point where our solar system is directly aligned with the center of the milky way. that's the reason why many people claim it's the most likely date for the ascension.

the 10/28/11 date is the real end date as proposed by carl johan calleman. afaik he agrees with 12/21/12 being the end of the long count but stresses that this is an unimportant date and the real purpose of the mayan calendar wasn't the tracking of celestial bodies but the development of consciousness in the universe, a 16.4 billion years cycle that according to him ends on october 28th this year.

how exactly calleman came to this conclusion is detailed in his excellent books but as i found out today he's slightly off the mark. basically, he explains that consciousness develops in steps, each of which is 20 times shorter than the time period before, meaning consciousness develops 20 times faster every time it goes one step up.

according to calleman it's 9 steps in total, called 9 underworlds, symbolized by the mayan pyramids which also have 9 steps, and each of them consists of 7 "days" and 6 "nights". if you divide 16.4 billion by 20 and the keep dividing the results you'll eventually reach 260 days which he calls the universal underworld, the last underworld according to calleman. based on more of his research he came up with october 28th, 2011 as the most likely date for the simultaneous ending of all nine waves and thus the end of the mayan calendar.

2. so why is calleman's theory mostly correct and that of the precessional cycle not?

because in reality there exists neither time nor matter, only consciousness. i think most of you will agree with this assessment. consciousness is the creator, god, the all-that-is, whatever you want to call it. everything in this universe is part of it.

but what is consciousness really? consciousness is basically energy vibrating at an infinite amount of different rates, and depending on the vibration it creates matter as well as time. it creates every thing in the universe as well as the past, present and future which in reality all exist at the same moment - now.

that is the reason why at this point all that matters is that this grand cycle in the development of consciousness of 16.4 billion years comes to an end. the precessional cycle surely was important in the "past" while this grand cycle was still running but now it ends and with it all shorter cycles it includes.

3. how do we know that calleman is right concerning his dates?

because all of these underworlds and their days and nights have specific characteristics which he analyzed and used to explain events of the past and correctly predict certain events in the future. i can't go into detail here but it's all in his books and he makes a very good point.

4. if calleman is right, why isn't october 28th the end date?

because i think he made a mistake in that he stopped his calculation with the days. since the mayan pyramids have only 9 steps he assumes the day the universal (the ninth) underworld ends is the day the cycle ends but that is probably wrong.

i kept thinking about this during the last weeks because something bothered me about the dates. i believe that the gregorian calendar was introduced for the specific reason to mark this end date, the date of ascension.

in one of david icke's books i read that pope gregory XIII, before implementing the new calendar, used mathematicians from all over europe to calculate dates and make sure that they match up. we know that the vatican is a big player in the game and that the powers that be are heavily into numerology so the end date had to be something special and neither 12/21/12 nor 10/28/11 are very exceptional.

5. so, what's the correct date?

i guess by now many of you will see where i'm headed here. if you continue calleman's calculation and divide 234 days by 20 you get 11 days, 16 hours and 48 minutes. that's the "10th" wave. if we divide that by 20 we get the "11th" wave which is exactly 14 hours and 24 minutes long. if we divide that by 20 we get 43 minutes and 12 seconds. so if you want to get the real "end" date of the cycle you have to add roughly 12 days to calleman's end date of october 28th, right?

well, what day do we get then? wait for it.......11/9/11!

from a numerological point of view this could mean an end (9) as well as a new beginning (11). talk about numerology and the powers that be!

that's what hit me during meditation this morning. it's actually very simple and it has been hidden in plain sight, as they usually do.

interestingly enough, i got another hint shortly thereafter. most of you probably know that we get help from our higher selves through small things that happen to us or that we see, hear or read. we just have to recognize these hints.

well, i probably miss many of them but this time it made sure i got it. i finished a book yesterday and selected a new one at random from about 300 unread ones. i'm an avid reader and currently have a big stack in case the internet and power grid go down. anyway, the book i selected was scott sigler's "ancestor" and i had read two or three chapters yesterday before going to bed.

when i started the next chapter at breakfast this morning the "numerology and the powers that be" thought was still on the back burner and there it hit me. on the first page of the new chapter i read "thank the powers that be!". of course it was in a different context in the book but that is an obvious hint that told me "thank the powers that be for their obsession with numerology because now you know the exact date for the end of the cycle and thus for ascension". what's the chance to read a sentence like that in any novel of a stack of about 300 on the very first page you read after coming to the conclusion i came to just a few minutes earlier?

so that's it. you can dismiss this outright or consider it possible but for me it's THE date. i usually listen to my higher guidance and this time it was more than obvious.

[date edited from 11/11/11 to 11/9/11 after nearing pointed out that the 9th wave is 234 days long, not 260 days which i accidentally used before.]

[Simone]

That's cool, very interesting.

I'll tell you a story, my mum's birthday is 11th November and we wanted to have a big birthday party for her this year as she turns 50! BUT for some reason she keeps saying to me, no, we don't need to have a party, something special will be happening on my birthday as it's going to be 11.11.11.
So I've always had the feeling that something amazing would be happening that day and my higher self has given me dates of 13th - 15th October - maybe the 15th October is the end of the 3 days of darkness??

Also what's interesting is my partner always see's 11.11 on the clock, on his odometer - everywhere really! I keep seeing 222...

This post is another synchronicity for me with regard to this date 11.11.11, another confirmation - very cool!

Thank you for posting!!!

[pickle]

...and the original Armistice Day, the two minute silence, at 11am on 11th day of the 11th month. Coincidence?

I remember as a kid I used to think that 11/11 was 'special' (not due to Armistice Day), never figured out why, just felt it.

[Catsquotl]

Cool
an 11.11.11 is maybe the start of a sixth era?
If I remember correctly this one is the 5th creational era we are experiencing now?

I have one question though. Shouldn't the full date be written like 11/11/2011???
instead of the numerologial 6 we would get an 8 then?

hmmmmm
With Love
Eelco

[TelosianEmbrace]

Very impressive, TTIIT. I particularly like your train of reasoning and pursuit of an answer. I wish all of us on Earth were as passionate about finding answers. For me, I have my sights focussed on December 2012. My focus has carried me through many dark days. I wouldn't mind if it came a bit earlier than expected, though
Your post has, for some reason, caused me to pose a question of my own. Is the Divine Being, the Source, a mathematician? We see sacred geometry in everything, everywhere as the backbone of creation. Yet I would like to think that there is an aspect to the Divine that is beyond mathematics, beyond geometry, beyond measurement. And in a roundabout way, that is another answer to your calculations.

[Ian Gordon]

This resonates with me, from a slightly different angle, looking at the Mayan buildings and the 9 steps, they built a structure on top I have always wondered having followed Callmans theory if that represented a final stage........but having not found any significant evidence one way or another, also put this on the back burner

it is a chinese curse to live in interesting times........these times are way to interesting, dont forget no fear no worry

[Kamikaze]

Thanks for putting this together for us who had not yet come around to this realization.

At times I had been thinking the Gregorian calender had to be aligned correctly as well. But never did work on it much but a reoccurring thought for a short moment at times. Thanks for doing the work!
I never felt 2012 being too important but as a introduction to the material and things to be found. As soon as I saw the 2011 date I was much more "good" with it but never really found anything else align perfectly with October 28th.
At later times I sat that it's "around" that date. Now we have the exact time thanks to you!

[Ammit]

Thanks, The truth is there.

I have for the period of time since knowing of the mayan calender and the proposed end date felt it was all wrong. I have been telling my wife and those friends who are awake, that, I firmly believe September this year is the real one. It just rings true with me for some reason.

It has not made me paranoid though, I am planning next years crops and have prepared new larger areas of ground to cope with all the things to grow. I still pay my bills on time and have not gone out a bought something with the frame of mind that I will never have to pay for it.

I feel it will be a very rough ride, hard times coming up with maybe the world being thrown into the dark ages. I eagerly wait and see what will happen, if anything....

Blessings to you all

[stardustaquarion]

Every time someone gives an exact date for ascension I think:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=chug6f0tnFg

Great dissapointment

If it happens....it happens but don't max up your credit card

[jcocks]

I've always felt that the end of this year was the real time to be watching for..... 2012 was just a ploy so that events would catch us off-guard....

Having said that, be wary of anyone that says ascention will happen on a given date. Ascention is a gradual process, not a sudden occurance. We will not wake up one day and find everything has changed. Some chages will seem rather sudden, but I feel by and large most of the changes will be more gradual. Our economic system, however, will fall by the wayside rather quickly - simply because we are soon to come into contact with off-planet societies that don't use money.... So money will soon be irrelevant. IMHO, anyway..... I could always be wrong, but I think contact will be one of the first things to happen, and it will initially be accompanied by a lot of uncertainty...

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

OMG We have national holiday because of Independence Day on 11th November here in Poland

[The Truth Is In There]

Posted by jcocks (here)
I've always felt that the end of this year was the real time to be watching for..... 2012 was just a ploy so that events would catch us off-guard....

Having said that, be wary of anyone that says ascention will happen on a given date. Ascention is a gradual process, not a sudden occurance. We will not wake up one day and find everything has changed. Some chages will seem rather sudden, but I feel by and large most of the changes will be more gradual. Our economic system, however, will fall by the wayside rather quickly - simply because we are soon to come into contact with off-planet societies that don't use money.... So money will soon be irrelevant. IMHO, anyway..... I could always be wrong, but I think contact will be one of the first things to happen, and it will initially be accompanied by a lot of uncertainty...

i used to think so too but after what i learned during the last few weeks i disagree with that idea now. the way you describe it it would be a cyce that started 16.4 billion years ago and just keeps going but calleman, with the help of the mayan calendar, made it absolutely clear that the cycle ends here. development is happening faster and faster and faster until it happens so fast that it's not possible to measure it anymore, thus our perception of time stops. and that is the point where everything changes. and no being, incarnate or discarnate, knows what's coming afterwards because it never happened before in this universe.

the ETs who talk about what's going to happen actually have no idea of this process because they have a limited point of view too, they see only the possibilities their own perspectives permit and they have never gone through this themselves so they can't talk from experience.

i'm sure there will be a kind of split right at the end point of that 16.4 billion years cycle where the "three days of darkness" will occur. that won't be a physical process but spiritual, a moment whose length is experienced differently by everyone so it's not really three days, and during that moment we evaluate our experiences and development since we came into existence as souls and then decide where we want to go to continue our development.

all of that will be decided from a higher perspective so our 3d consciousness will have no say in it, otherwise all would probably want to ascend to 4d/5d earth. our higher selves will determine whether we're ready to ascend or need to continue our "learning" in the 3rd dimension, either on the 3rd dimensional aspect of earth (which will then be ravaged by natural disasters) where people will live in an apocalyptic and later post-apocalyptic world, or on another, more benevolent 3d planet. there is an infinite amount of possibilities and every soul will experience what is right for it at that point.

those who are ready to ascend will create bodies on the 4th or 5th dimensional aspect of earth which will be free of earth changes or other calamities. the hopi prophecies and many others speak about these people as those who won't be affected by earth changes and other catastrophes.

if our earthly existence would merely go on as it is now with but minor changes and without a distinctive shift or a split as described above, what would be the point of this 16.4 billion years cycle ending? it would also mean that prophecies such as that of the hopi, the bible and others are wrong because everyone will be affected by earth changes since they will be worldwide and no being on earth could escape them except through death.

and last but not least, it would take the chance from us to decide for ourselves what our individual futures will be. i don't believe for one second that ETs or higher dimensional beings other than ourselves will have any say in the matter, be it through a "harvest" or taking people into ships or any of those other scenarios.

of course i could be wrong and most people probably have a different take on all this but mine is that the end of this cycle is what we all have been waiting for, consciously or not, and it will be an unmistakable end to this stage in our development after which nothing will be the same as before.

[aranuk]

Frankol posted this an hour ago referring to Edward Alexanders last post today.

Hi Edward, I saw your last post. To be honest I haven't red it nor I have gone throughout your thread ... I just saw numbers on your profile 11.01.2011 = join date, 111 posts and 1 thank you. WOW...

Would you please explain 1111 phenomena (whatever you might know on the topic)?

Stan

[Calz]

Not sure if this would serve as "confirmation" or not. Several things going on that day and this is one:

MU 11/11/11

The Full Return of the Disc
Sacred Journey to Bolivia and Peru – November 6-17, 2011

Worldwide Lemurian Reactivation Ceremony at Lake Titicaca - 11/11/11

We as humanity have arrived to our next planetary milestone in the extremely powerful universal vibration called 2011. Along with our beloved planet we are invited to proceed further on our ascension path. There are certain sacred places that can greatly enhance the energy of this transition. The call of Lake Titicaca and the mountain range of the Andes never was so powerful than this time. The moment is here when the Lemurian (aka Balanced Feminine light) vibration stored hidden in and under the Lake can return completely to the surface. The wisdom of the Ancients is fully available for all open hearted seekers. The love vibration of the Disc of Mu is ready to reveal its eternal wisdom to all of us.

After a memorable ”preparation” journey at the beginning of last year, we are invited back to complete the Lemurian Reactivation Ceremony at the Heart of Lake Titicaca.

Every site visited in this eleven days has a strong connection to the wisdom and vibration of Lemuria and its ancient treasures, kept hidden in the remote regions of this land. The gates to Inner Earth are ready to gradually be opened all around the planet. There are many important sites with their secret entrances to this realm but two have a unique significance regarding the flame that all the Sacred Flames derive from: one at Lake Titcacaca and the other in Tibet. Alpha and Omega are ready to merge into ONE as the Eternal Love Flame of the Universe. 11/11/11 is the gate that opens a new chapter for humanity. If you feel the urge to be with us in this ceremony you are so welcome to do so. Being with us on the physical is one option. You can be with us through your heart in a meditation if you feel the call to participate.

This journey will lead us to our own hearts and through our hearts to the heart of the planet. We will awaken in our heart step by step, all the beauty, light and wisdom of those ancient sites that will open their gates for us. We will connect our heart to the Guardians of the Lake God and Goddess Meru and to the Lemurian Masters who will assist us to reawaken our long dormant DNA codes. We will open our hearts deeply to the sacred water of the lake and we will discover its timeless healing vibration. We will reconnect the Disc of Mu and through it the Universal Mother Flame. We will reactivate the crystalline codes of the lake and the mountain to recalibrate them in our collective consciousness. This sacred land is a living code for the wisdom of the Ancients. The time has arrived to invite this wisdom fully into our hearts and through our hearts send it back to the heart of the planet and the heart of our vast Universe.


For further info please contact us: lemurianawakening@gmail.com

FOR MORE INFORMATION CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD PDF

http://www.lemurianawakening.com/events.html

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by Catsquotl (here)
Cool
an 11.11.11 is maybe the start of a sixth era?
If I remember correctly this one is the 5th creational era we are experiencing now?

I have one question though. Shouldn't the full date be written like 11/11/2011???
instead of the numerologial 6 we would get an 8 then?

hmmmmm
With Love
Eelco

Not that I put much stock in people claiming dates, but I will simply say regarding the new number bering 8 and not 6 that in biblical numerology 8 means new beginnings. Just an interesting tidbit.

[johnf]

The date you come up with is certainly an interesting date from another angle, and that was stumbled on by one of avalons members using the phenomena of the constelations.
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ogy#post168708

An actual virgin birth is going to be shown in the consellations starting in a week or so and ending on 11/11/11. Also the period of time from the beggining of the ninth wave to 11/11/11 is nine months. So that whole period seems to be the gestation of some sort of infant cosmic or as most call it universal consiousness. This only sounds like the setting of the stage for something like an ascension to me. Also both numerological and astrological systems are primarily systems describing energy and internal archetypes. Outer transformation takes a long time. And the maturing of the new cosmic babe will probably take a long time. I admire Miriam Delicados message concerning prophecy, where she points out that the Hopi propheces number in the hundreds, and i get the impression that they are not so big on dates. and she states that 2016 or so is closer to something that that set of forcasts
has as a big singular change. I think it would be much healthier for people to look at this whole thing that is going on on our planet as well as in the cosmos in general as a process and stop focusing on some singular event.
I think that the reactions of the creatures on the planet, including the ones that claim intelligence have a big play in this process, especially as regards to their resistance to it. I really suspect that the whole thing is driven by an intelligence that will only send a magic firebolt of change into the system when the collective units of consciousness are ready to do something with them.

[Aryslan]

So, the exact date, according to the Maya, is your opinion on the work of another? His date is not correct, but yours is? Perhaps you should have mentioned in the title that you're making a prediction here, instead of presenting years of research. The entire business of dates is foolish, in my humble opinion.

[Ilie Pandia]

There is no such date as a mass ascension date.

I've just set a reminder to say Hello on 12th - 11 - 2011

[nearing]

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
There is no such date as a mass ascension date.

I've just set a reminder to say Hello on 12th - 11 - 2011

Seems Inelia disagrees.

[Ilie Pandia]

Posted by nearing (here)
Seems Inelia disagrees.

Can you please provide a link for that?