Is Obama a clone?

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I've spent quite a bit of time listening to Freeman's thesis on Obama. What Freeman doesn't address is why the PTB would pick to clone the ONLY Egyptian pharaoh who quit the capital, created his own capital at Amarna, angered the priest cast (VERY POWERFUL AND CONTROLLING AT THE TIME), created a new religion that acknowledged the One Creator, and was more than likely murdered when his new views simply didn't catch on with the people who were not interested in that much radical "change."

An argument could be made that this Obama certainly started out sounding a lot like Akhenaton in his "change" motif leading up the winning the American presidency. However, his actions since assuming the Presidency are in no way comparable to that of Akhenaton's in that he has operationalized the Hidden Hand agenda with ZERO change in the status quo. If he is, in fact, a clone of Akhenaton, the original must be disgusted in the extreme at the pliable nature of this being and his refusal to do anything whatsoever that could possibly be considered "change."

[Lost Soul]

Genes. They do get handed down.

[Paradox]

The Obama cloning topic is extremely interesting as not quite as mad as it first seems. You have to take a look at the larger picture and take into account such things as what Obama's name means 'lightning from heaven', the fact that there is no record of his birth, social security numbers that don't add up and not only the likeness of Obama to Akhenaten but the who family has a obvious resemblance to the Akhenaten family too! What are the odds of that?

Also note of the code names given to the Obama family by the secret service and you begin to see that there is something very strange and coincidental going on. I personally think there's a lot more to this seemingly outlandish story than first meets the eye.

Go check it out for yourself!

[Elandiel BernElve]

Posted by Paradox (here)
The Obama cloning topic is extremely interesting as not quite as mad as it first seems. You have to take a look at the larger picture and take into account such things as what Obama's name means 'lightning from heaven', the fact that there is no record of his birth, social security numbers that don't add up and not only the likeness of Obama to Akhenaten but the who family has a obvious resemblance to the Akhenaten family too! What are the odds of that?

Also note of the code names given to the Obama family by the secret service and you begin to see that there is something very strange and coincidental going on. I personally think there's a lot more to this seemingly outlandish story than first meets the eye.

Go check it out for yourself!

Could you give us a lead to where we could check it out? Thanks

[yiolas]

Maybe this topic of cloning high level government officials deserves more research. I just ran into this article by Alcuin and Flutterby.

Who claim that the majority of government figureheads are soulless clones. Please read a small excerpt of their article:

In 2008, during the American presidential election campaign, US Senator Hillary Clinton's handlers began to get clumsy and she was seen in two different places at once on a number of separate occasions. And not just in Iowa and New Hampshire.

Someone sees Hillary Clinton at a function across town at, say, 1.30pm. And then, when they compare notes with a Democratic Party co-worker later that day, they learn that Hillary was also seen back at the hotel at 1.30pm, three miles away. And her clothes were different, or her hair was different, or her makeup was different, and the people with her were different. Or, after a speaking engagement, the car drives Hillary Clinton away to Location A, where she is seen to get out of the car at, say, 10.45pm. But a co-worker sees her at 11.00pm at Location B thirty or forty miles away, except that Hillary Clinton and the car have not left Location A. And they couldn't drive that fast anyway, and Hillary's clothing or appearance is different, and the people with her are different. And the next day, arriving for an early morning meeting somewhere, Hillary comes from Location B, not from Location A. Meanwhile, she is seen having a late breakfast at Location A with different people. And so on.

How many different Hillary Clinton's are there?.....

The use of human clones in American political management is only now becoming apparent. The last US President not to be cloned was John F. Kennedy. Usually, when a President or major American public figure ceases to be compliant to the demands of the controlling corporate elite, they are quietly killed, cremated and replaced with lookalike, mind-controlled clones. These days, at the Camp David human clone laboratories (Maryland) and elsewhere, it is possible to produce an adult human clone from originator DNA and a lab-double in less than 36 hours.

Please read the rest of this fascinating article here

The possibilities boggle the mind if this is true

[Swanny]

Ok your soul is in your body right now. So if they cloned one of your old bodies would it be possible to clone your soul and put it in the new body? And if it was possible would you know about it?

[yiolas]

Posted by Swanny (here)
Ok your soul is in your body right now. So if they cloned one of your old bodies would it be possible to clone your soul and put it in the new body? And if it was possible would you know about it?

Hi Swanny, I think the premise here is that after they have taken some of your dna for cloning, they proceed to kill you. Your soul does not re-enter the cloned body. Infact from what I understand, a clone does not have any God connection or 'spark of life' . Therefore cannot be a vessel for a soul.

[Goldenserenity]

Posted by yiolas (here)
soulless clones.

I am just wondering why people feel that clones are soul-less. Why would a clone have difficulties obtaining or being housed in a cloned body? A body is a body is a body, and that's is what a soul is housed in. I believe a clone of the body does not equal nor create, a clone of the soul.
The clone is just the body, the soul is not the body. From what I have read, a soul enters the body usually around the 4th or 5th month of pregnancy and is in and out of the body until just before birth. Am I 100% positive on this? Nope, I'm not. Who really can be?
Just a thought.

[yiolas]

From what I understand, a clone is just a biological machine. A soul cannot enter it just like it cannot enter a television set or a computer.
Both of these however, can receive and transmit messages,and can therefore be programmed. There's the beauty of it. The drawback however is that they do not have any kind of a moral compass, because they are not connected to the Divine.

[K626]

Posted by yiolas (here)
Hi Swanny, I think the premise here is that after they have taken some of your dna for cloning, they proceed to kill you. Your soul does not re-enter the cloned body. Infact from what I understand, a clone does not have any God connection or 'spark of life' . Therefore cannot be a vessel for a soul.

The soul is not 'yours/ours/mine' soul either, once it leaves the body (it doesn't really reside in the body actually but that is another matter), it becomes 'one' with all other souls untill it is ready to take another body/form.

A clone cannot hold or attach to a soul because it is only replicated matter, not matter that has 'come into being' (as part of the universal force/field). The 'life spark' as you say is not present, it is my understanding that the 'life spark' or soul 'moment' was there before matter and was the reason for the creation of matter. It isn't the other way round. The greys for instance it is said have tried to attach to souls, but being part 'biological entities' they cannot, yet ironically their understanding of our souls is far greater than ours is.

The other thing to understand that is that the planet is part of the process for souls entering matter and souls cannot enter matter a certain distance away from particular types of planets, if for instance you die in space 'out there somewhere', your soul 'you' cannot return to this planet, there is a kind of range planets have within which soul transference must occur. Dead space is really that - dead space. The aura/corona/magnetic field of a planet stretches out some way, but beyond that there is no way for souls to survive, you must die within one planetery 'field' or another. This is what I am told anyway. Something to think about.


K

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Posted by yiolas (here)
Maybe this topic of cloning high level government officials deserves more research. I just ran into this article by Alcuin and Flutterby.

Who claim that the majority of government figureheads are soulless clones. Please read a small excerpt of their article:

Please read the rest of this fascinating article here

The possibilities boggle the mind if this is true

This paragraph was of particular interest to me:

. . . Usually, when a President or major American public figure ceases to be compliant to the demands of the controlling corporate elite, they are quietly killed, cremated and replaced with lookalike, mind-controlled clones. These days, at the Camp David human clone laboratories (Maryland) and elsewhere, it is possible to produce an adult human clone from originator DNA and a lab-double in less than 36 hours.

Most cloning research states that clone copies become degraded the further down the line they appear in the copying process. IF "Change" Obama was indeed a clone from a 3K year old mummy who had the temerity to actually BELIEVE his campaign rhetoric and had to be swiftly replaced, it would certainly explain his woefully neglectful behavior in regard the Gulf and his penchant for continuing two disastrous wars. This current version -- assuming he's been double or triple cloned -- certainly lacks the charisma, articulateness and intelligence displayed on the campaign trail. I imagine the PBTS (Powers Behind The Scenes) jerry-rig the brain synapses to fire the pablum/disjointed garbage that issued forth from Reagan in the final 2 years of his Presidency and President Shrub for the entire 8 years of his Reign of Terror. This current Obama appears less than a quarter-step away from personality disintegration into manic, vapid incoherence.

Thanks for the article. I shall read it with interest.

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[Goldenserenity]

Posted by K626 (here)
A clone cannot hold or attach to a soul because it is only replicated matter, not matter that has 'come into being' (as part of the universal force/field). The 'life spark' as you say is not present,

Aren't identical twins a replica of each other....clones? Does that mean that the one that divided off the other twin has no soul?

From this one site talking about reproductive cloning, it said...."Dolly or any other animal created using nuclear transfer technology is not truly an identical clone of the donor animal. Only the clone's chromosomal or nuclear DNA is the same as the donor. Some of the clone's genetic materials come from the mitochondria in the cytoplasm of the enucleated egg. Mitochondria, which are organelles that serve as power sources to the cell, contain their own short segments of DNA." http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresource.../cloning.shtml
I'm not working in the field of molecular genetics as I'm sure none of us are here, so maybe we are all not fully aware of the exact procedure used to clone. Even with a clone they use a donor egg, and that egg grows inside a woman s body and is given birth to like a normal baby. I'm not saying that cloning is ok, just that what the heck do we all really know about it other than what we read about it.

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Posted by Goldenserenity (here)
Aren't identical twins a replica of each other....clones? Does that mean that the one that divided off the other twin has no soul?

The issue, as I see it, is not whether identical twins born of natural processes have souls. I'm positive they do. The issue surrounding the PTB clones is the process by which mind scans are downloaded into the cloned bodies and manipulated to serve a specific agenda. It would be interesting to see whether a non-mind-controlled clone (with down-loaded non-manipulated brain scans) acted equivalently to or different from a Creature from Black Arts Lab clone retrofitted with dark-side agenda talking points. Here again, I think there would be noticeable differences despite both being clones.

Identical twins produced thru natural processes are, IMO, both ensouled and able to demonstrate amazing similarities as well as differences in temperament and outlook. An example of this is Jill Hennessy (actor, Crossing Jordan) and her identical twin Jacqueline Hennessy (magazine writer). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Hennessy. While identical they nonetheless demonstrate very distinctive character traits and interests.

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[Swami]

Maybe this has something to do with it.....??


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