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    Default Spaceship Earth - and YOU are the captain.

    http://ascension101.com/en/ascension...e-captain.html

    The shift has reached it's final stage... now it is up to you.

    On the week of the 22nd to the 28th of August 2011, I was kindly asked by Source to step outside. This doesn't happen often, it is rare, and normally lasts a few minutes, hours, or at the most a couple of days. This time, it lasted a whole week.

    What does this mean? It means that I leave a "place holder" in this reality matrix, but I, the being, steps outside. The body, subtle bodies, and "awareness" stay, but it is like watching a movie, or a car driving on the highway, which one's body is driving, but one is watching it from afar.

    As I observed "reality" from the outside, I could sense big shifts happening, enormous changes, the walls between dimensions becoming thin, my "human" perceptions could detect movement, lights and shadows.

    Then, I was asked to return. And the news is big.

    At the same time, my friend Lucia Rene, a top ass-kicking mystic, sent her newsletter out. In the newsletter she expressed her feeling of leaving behind the old world, and entering the new. She wrote:

    "Have you seen the movie The Lord of the Rings or read Tolkien’s wonderful trilogy of that name? If so, perhaps you remember one of the last scenes where the elves, Bilbo, Frodo, and Gandalf get on a pretty wooden boat, sail out of the harbor, and disappear from view. They leave for a new world. “That’s it,” I thought. “That moment in the film captures the feeling perfectly!”

    It’s as though I’ve gotten on a boat and am sailing out toward the unknown. The unknown isn’t scary. It’s actually quite peaceful. It holds the sense of returning to something long forgotten." Lucia Rene

    I knew something was up, big time, but did not understand what had happened, as I was outside, and why had I been taken out of the picture while it was happening?

    Lucia and I had discussion about it. And while we talked about what each of us had experienced, I realized the truth.

    As she calls it, the Splitting of the Worlds. This event, mentioned by so many, awaited by millions, mentioned in religions and cultures around the world, had happened. That much I knew.

    The souls divided between light and dark, awakened and asleep, aware and blind.

    What I realized, was the reason I was taken out of the equation was two fold.

    One, this is not my game, I am just here to raise the level of vibration of the planet, including the collective. I do not choose the outcome of the collective, or its individual members, the collective does that. Yet, I did not agree with this outcome. I wanted, yes, I really wanted, for all human beings to be lifted in their vibration for them to wake up enough that they make an educated choice. But that did not happen. An agreement was struck roughly a year ago, about what happens with those who did not wake up enough to make a choice. The agreement was that the "dark side" take them into their new reality. The reality where enslavement, pain, suffering and fear reign. Why? Because there is something in the game called "free will". The population was informed, and if an individual decides to ignore that information, it means they do not want to know. It means someone else can make a decision for them.

    Secondly, the movement of those billions of souls into darkness would have been too painful for me to "experience" and survive in human form.

    My heart ached. And I was surprised... I didn't think I would feel it. It is what the collective wants, after all. But my physical and subtle bodies feel the loss. Is it ego? Perhaps.

    This sadness, deep sorrow, I felt it once before. A few weeks back I was in touch with the consciousness of the Lemurian collective. And that was what they expressed. At the time I understood that back in Earth history a splitting had happened and that the sadness the Lemurians felt was from leaving their brethren behind, all those humans that did not awaken. And, what we call the "middle Earth", is that Earth that moved on, into a higher vibration, occupying the same location, but a different space/time vibration.

    And it has happened again.

    What we are experiencing now, this week, the presence of fear, darkness, war, famine, suffering, and sleepers, is the "shadow" of the previous reality. The only way to remove it is to process fear and inject light and love into the planet, BIG TIME. Big events, such as the hurricane in NY, and the Elenin comet, that were "supposed" to make a mess of certain areas of the planet, have frizzled away to not much at all. The Fear Machine, is failing. The human spirit wins. In the next 3 generations, the sleepers and their masters will leave our planet as they live out their lives, and will not be able to return. What happens during those years, is up to us.

    Now for the important information. How do you, as an individual, steer the Ship? Because you can, you see.

    Learn the rules. And the first, and most important rule to learn, is that whatever happens on the planet, or in your life, cannot happen if you do not agree with it. And everything that happens, happens because you either agree with it, or do not cast a vote.

    It is not up to me to choose whether those billions of sleepers are carried by us, forced to wake up, or left to their choice of wanting to stay asleep, not responsible for their actions, and let the "dark" take responsibility for them as they take them into a denser, darker Earth.

    It is not up to me to decide how fast we remove the shadows and step fully into the new, higher vibrational, reality. Why wait 3 generations when we could have it in 3 months? We decide. We decide what we agree with and what we don't agree with.

    We all cast our vote.

    So here is what we do, here is how we cast our vote:

    Choose a person, situation, location, personal topic, or worldwide event, that you do not agree with. Then, draw a red circle around it, and a line across it. Say the words, "I do not agree with this". Next, visualize what you would like to see, what you do agree with, and place a green tick next to it. It is very, very simple, and quick. So much so, that one might think it is not life changing, but it is. Try it. Try it with the big things, and the little things. Use it every day, and watch. What do you have to lose by trying it out? Nothing.

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    Default Re: Spaceship Earth - and YOU are the captain.

    Good to know one is not completely numb - this somehow explained the enormous and 'unexplainable' inside-out pressure of the heart felt here, last week.

    Big thanks for the easy exercise - can do that, even at my lowest. Am taking it dead seriously. At last, sth positive and simple.
    Thanks again!
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    As in music,, the vibrations are strongest when they are out of tune. As things begin to align, or, tune,, the intensity of the vibration is lessened, and the harmony will ring through! Thank you, again, for your insight. There is no other place that I'd rather be than right here, right now!
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    I'm very aware of it the last few weeks have been amazing.

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    Default Re: Spaceship Earth - and YOU are the captain.

    Oh thank you Inelia, this is right in line with what I have been receiving from the God Within.

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    Default Re: Spaceship Earth - and YOU are the captain.

    hi Inelia,

    thanks for the inspirational post.

    the earth splitting into a higher/lower vibration or a light/dark dynamic is a concept that i am only vaguely familiar with, with the little bit of info i have received coming from the Dolores Cannon material.

    i have to be honest here: i don't really understand it. you seem to be saying that the earth has split vibrationally, with higher vibrational beings going to the 'light side', and the lower vibrational beings going to the 'dark side', if you will. yet i know that bush jr, bush sr, rockefeller, kissinger et al are still walking this very planet that my feet and your feet and the feet of every person reading this post are connected to.

    with that in mind, what exactly has changed?

    as i said, i'm quite ignorant on the topic and may be misunderstanding you. but if you could answer my inquiry i'd very much appreciate it. thanks.
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    Quote Posted by Chinaski (here)
    hi Inelia,

    thanks for the inspirational post.

    the earth splitting into a higher/lower vibration or a light/dark dynamic is a concept that i am only vaguely familiar with, with the little bit of info i have received coming from the Dolores Cannon material.

    i have to be honest here: i don't really understand it. you seem to be saying that the earth has split vibrationally, with higher vibrational beings going to the 'light side, and the lower vibrational beings going to the 'dark side', if you will. yet i know that bush jr, bush sr, rockefeller, kissinger et al are still walking this very planet that my feet and your feet and the feet of every person reading this post are connected to.

    with that in mind, what exactly has changed?

    as i said, i'm quite ignorant on the topic and may be misunderstanding you. but if you could answer my inquiry i'd very much appreciate it. thanks.
    My take on it is that there are two boats leaving the dock. We still exist in the same dynamic, yet the split has occurred. Each person has made the decision regarding the manifesting of our realities, and it will now play out! Those who are on the 'other boat' will be able to see us sailing away but they will not realize that THEY are the ones who are being left behind. Likewise, they will embrace their reality, and never be the wiser. Taken to the most extreme manifestation,,, (war and death and cataclysm etc...) I will ascend right in front of someone,,, because they are NOT on the right 'boat',,, they will (through their physical filters) will know only that we died. And we died REALLY believing in what we believed (in there view.) And their views are re-enforced by what the 'believe' that they saw. On the other hand,, we will not see the same thing. They have not embraced, or bothered to even notice, that the boat is leaving,,, and we will see them staring off into the distance, waving and sobbing,,,, and in one moment,,, they will forget.... Right in front of our eyes... And we will not, CANNOT help them,,, they had the choice to get on the boat. I used the extreme example of death, to animate my point, but it does not need to be that way. A space has been prepared for those of us who are ready. And a future is being created where the duality does not exist, and opposing energies cannot exist in the same space.

    I do not mean to answer for Inelia,,, of course not. I love the question, and am going through the same 'shedding of layers' as you. Best regards, Jake.
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    Just amazing.. To day i i cried for the people of Libya. And as i now closed my eyes to make a circle around Libya. I saw a brownish color map, and as i made a big circle around Libya and the rest of the countries the western world are killing. And at the same time i did that, i saw a rings around America and Europe being drawn, with lines towards my circle. That was not what i was thinking to do, i took a breath and i agreed with one thought.

    I pulled myself together and started to focus on a happy place i could live, i saw myself on a beach and people was flying around. I accepted without hesitation.

    Thanks so much i needed that...

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    I am with Chinaski here. I read it twice and am still scratching my head. Next stop will be to read Lucia Rene's post on the splitting of the worlds and see if that helps.

    http://www.unplugfromthepatriarchy.com/blog/?p=622

    One thing did jump out at me though. I was listening to an interview with Clif High last year and he said something to the effect that "Something has changed. We have crossed a point where everyone that is going to wake up and get it, already has. The people that are still asleep want to stay that way." He didn't describe it as a shift, but rather as an event.

    ETA: Thanks Jake, you replied while I was typing my post.

    ETA2: From Lucia's blog...This helps (By the way, I just had a very intense deja vu while typing this..curioser and curioser as the say)

    It’s not a bad thing, of course. Just part of the ascension process. We’ve all know that, sooner or later, we would part company with the world as we have known it. The further we go in our personal ascension, the more things we must say goodbye to: people, places, attachments, desires, belief systems, states of mind. Even the peace and balance we work so hard to attain as spiritual seekers, in the final stages of our quest, must be honored and brought to rest. And, in the end, there is only the echo of “all gone, all gone”.

    Is this something to be alarmed about? Is there some looming decision that needs to be made? Is there something you need to “do”?

    Not at all. This is beyond the emotional, intellectual, and physical bodies. What is transpiring is beyond the human spectrum. If there is any choice to be made, it will be made from your heart of heart. Just a simple inner turning. Just a moment of looking back.

    No need to worry. No need to decide. Just live each day in an impeccable and heart-felt way. Relax. Trust. Watch what your body of awareness does in each moment.

    Will the physical world change? I don’t know. We’ll have to wait and see, won’t we?

    All I know is that if there is the feeling of poignancy or sadness, then it is best to turn, like a small child, and become curious. Welcome it. Embrace it. Merge with it. And watch it gently come to rest.

    And then, move on…
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    Quote Posted by Jake (here)
    Quote Posted by Chinaski (here)
    hi Inelia,

    thanks for the inspirational post.

    the earth splitting into a higher/lower vibration or a light/dark dynamic is a concept that i am only vaguely familiar with, with the little bit of info i have received coming from the Dolores Cannon material.

    i have to be honest here: i don't really understand it. you seem to be saying that the earth has split vibrationally, with higher vibrational beings going to the 'light side, and the lower vibrational beings going to the 'dark side', if you will. yet i know that bush jr, bush sr, rockefeller, kissinger et al are still walking this very planet that my feet and your feet and the feet of every person reading this post are connected to.

    with that in mind, what exactly has changed?

    as i said, i'm quite ignorant on the topic and may be misunderstanding you. but if you could answer my inquiry i'd very much appreciate it. thanks.
    My take on it is that there are two boats leaving the dock. We still exist in the same dynamic, yet the split has occurred. Each person has made the decision regarding the manifesting of our realities, and it will now play out! Those who are on the 'other boat' will be able to see us sailing away but they will not realize that THEY are the ones who are being left behind. Likewise, they will embrace their reality, and never be the wiser. Taken to the most extreme manifestation,,, (war and death and cataclysm etc...) I will ascend right in front of someone,,, because they are NOT on the right 'boat',,, they will (through their physical filters) will know only that we died. And we died REALLY believing in what we believed (in there view.) And their views are re-enforced by what the 'believe' that they saw. On the other hand,, we will not see the same thing. They have not embraced, or bothered to even notice, that the boat is leaving,,, and we will see them staring off into the distance, waving and sobbing,,,, and in one moment,,, they will forget.... Right in front of our eyes... And we will not, CANNOT help them,,, they had the choice to get on the boat. I used the extreme example of death, to animate my point, but it does not need to be that way. A space has been prepared for those of us who are ready. And a future is being created where the duality does not exist, and opposing energies cannot exist in the same space.

    I do not mean to answer for Inelia,,, of course not. I love the question, and am going through the same 'shedding of layers' as you. Best regards, Jake.
    appreciate your take on it Jake. it's a question that i hope Inelia answers, but i'm open to being enlightened by anyone whose up to the task.

    so just to clarify: Jake, are you saying that there will be a massive die-off, that those that aren't ascending will witness the disappearance of friends and loved ones, or will simply wake up one morning to a massively reduced population?

    that's what i'd really like to know. Inelia seems to be saying this process has already occurred; and yet, we're all still here! the goodies, baddies and everything in between.

    sorry to say that this sort of reminds me of the 'Left Behind" theory propagated by religious zealots, this notion that if you don't get with the program we're gonna leave you on the Titanic with the captain and the band and the sliding deck furniture. the idea of ascension sounds great initially, but what of the husband whose spiritually mature and therefore "ascends", leaving his wife and family behind? on the flip side of that coin, what of the spiritually mature children who ascend and leave loving parents behind? and so on and so forth.

    i wonder how happy ascended folks will be when they arrive on the other side sans friends and family.

    or maybe i'm just completely missing the point i dunno.

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    There's nothing like an open discourse about all of this with no disrespect to any one person either. Nobody in MHO knows everything and everyone knows at the very least something. Jake's explanation I would fancy but with certain doubts and uncertainties which Chinaski was concerned about. What about young children who are not yet capable of making an informed choice? Take my wife, she has heard a lot of dribble from the new age people and has no interest in anything pseudo spiritual. The forum here would not interest her as we would sound somewhat to her like the new agers. She even thinks my astrology pals and I are a bit weird. She is my grounding. Will she be left behind too and I will fly, without her grounding, to the extremes of the universe like a balloon with the air zooming out.

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    Quote so just to clarify: Jake, are you saying that there will be a massive die-off, that those that aren't ascending will witness the disappearance of friends and loved ones, or will simply wake up one morning to a massively reduced population?
    Only in the extreme and direct example. Let me explain it like this:

    You mentioned that you are familiar with Delores Cannons work. She mentions the 'die-off' scenario being seen from both perspectives; the 'die-off/graduated/ascended' and the 'left behind'. OKay,,, lets take it a step further.

    We incarnate here on physical planet earth. We have been stuck in the cycle of Karma, and return in the fashion most appropriate for our incarnations. We have been doing this for 'who know how long'. There is a cycle of time in which this tumultuous existence runs a course, and repeats. We have such short human life spans that we do not pick up on the progression from lifetime to lifetime. What is happening is the evolution of our souls. And at this point,,, the evolution is a choice that we make. This is the last time that we will incarnate here as a group. (in this life cycle) All of the many lifetimes that we have lived have all built up to this one. And NOW is the generation to make your decision. And the decision has been made and the boats have left the harbor,,, My next incarnation will be in a new reality, into a higher vibration. (or i will do it all over again for the next 17,000 years, and hope to make a better decision next time. )

    The 'die-off' scenario is flawed. I agree,,, but it is a possibility that tptb have been preparing us for. Anything to distract us from self discovery. the truth is that we may not see it until we believe it. we may not see it until the end our our physical earth existences. Saying that everyone is going to die is not something that anyone can predict. But I WILL say that there has been a split,,, and I am getting off of this boat!!! This will be my last time here on physical planet earth as we know it. The secret occult teachings of the ptb have been preparing for this. They see it coming and, although they cannot stop it,,, they can keep and maintain their power base if they can keep the 'harvest' to a minimum. That is what all of the deceit is about. Remember, they have been controlling their incarnations on this planet for a long time. They will get another 17,000 years to rule over the souls who do not get on the right boat.

    Again, this is my own words. I do not pretend to answer for anyone else.

    On the 'new earth' we will be much more aware of our past lives,,, whereas on the old,,, it will be the same,,, nobody will even know that we are gone,,, because nobody will know about their past lives... In that sense,, yes,,, we have vanished before their eyes. (without them even knowing it.)

    I see it so damn clear in my head. I wish I could explain it better. Jake.
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    thanks Jake. i understand that i'm asking for a logical/linear explanation to a phenomenon that doesn't indulge rationalism/time, so it's not an easy task to explain. i think you've done a good job here though.

    just trying to wrap my head around it all. not easy lol!

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    I also had to read what Inelia wrote two times and I find that I'm torn. Part of me is glad to read that the world of peace and harmony, etc. is truly becoming a reality. And the other part is sad to know some will not choose that path and will experience the consequences...which I can only imagine what that might be. But I also choose to believe that until one takes their last breath there is the opportunity to choose again.

    And then I remembered the video clip which I saw through Project Camelot: September 2nd update on Comet Elenin. Sorry I don't know how to link to it. It showed Elenin splitting, time stamp according to the video was 2011/08/28, but when the video starts it was 2011/08/26. Don't understand the date change during the video... and when that video is finished there is a second video (on youtube) entitled Jupiter Explosion!!! - Elenin Breaks into Two Pieces and Changes Course. A longer video with a little more detail. I especially think the words changes course most curious in light of what Inelia writes.

    I don't know a lot of the specifics of Elenin, I've only read bits and pieces here and there so I could have some idea of what was going on, but I find it most interesting that the time frame of the explosion of Elenin is right in sync with Inelia being asked to step outside, as she says.


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    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    There's nothing like an open discourse about all of this with no disrespect to any one person either. Nobody in MHO knows everything and everyone knows at the very least something. Jake's explanation I would fancy but with certain doubts and uncertainties which Chinaski was concerned about. What about young children who are not yet capable of making an informed choice? Take my wife, she has heard a lot of dribble from the new age people and has no interest in anything pseudo spiritual. The forum here would not interest her as we would sound somewhat to her like the new agers. She even thinks my astrology pals and I are a bit weird. She is my grounding. Will she be left behind too and I will fly, without her grounding, to the extremes of the universe like a balloon with the air zooming out.

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    exactly. you've said it perfectly.

    i had a debate(i try to avoid them, but i got roped in this time) with a religious friend who was singing the usual tune: if you don't accept Jesus into your life, you're going to hell where Satan will slowly pull off your finger and toenails while his demon cronies pluck your eyelashes and stab you with pitchforks (oh yeah, and you'll be on fire too).

    my question to him was: what about the indigenous people of the earth, or those that have never heard of Jesus? What of children who are not prepared to make informed choices? All he could do was shrug.

    this is likely a bad metaphor, as i know Inelia is the furthest thing from a religious zealot(am not suggesting in any way, shape or form she is) but it was the first thing that popped into my head a few posts back while i was attempting to explain my concerns with the splitting planet/ascension theories.

    it would seem that there are those that are aware, those that are not, those that are ambivalent, and those-like children-who have absolutely no idea what any of this means, the ramifications and so on. what of the children? the ambivalent? the well-intentioned but spiritually jaded? the ignorant?

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    Thank you so much, Inelia...this is just what I needed to hear. I was actually going to PM you with a question....but it's answered....thank you....

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    Thank you Inelia. I have strongly sensed this past week, that we are 'on top' of an event.... as in it is occurring now. This helps reconfirm that.

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    Quote Posted by Jake (here)
    Quote so just to clarify: Jake, are you saying that there will be a massive die-off, that those that aren't ascending will witness the disappearance of friends and loved ones, or will simply wake up one morning to a massively reduced population?
    Only in the extreme and direct example. Let me explain it like this:

    You mentioned that you are familiar with Delores Cannons work. She mentions the 'die-off' scenario being seen from both perspectives; the 'die-off/graduated/ascended' and the 'left behind'. OKay,,, lets take it a step further.

    We incarnate here on physical planet earth. We have been stuck in the cycle of Karma, and return in the fashion most appropriate for our incarnations. We have been doing this for 'who know how long'. There is a cycle of time in which this tumultuous existence runs a course, and repeats. We have such short human life spans that we do not pick up on the progression from lifetime to lifetime. What is happening is the evolution of our souls. And at this point,,, the evolution is a choice that we make. This is the last time that we will incarnate here as a group. (in this life cycle) All of the many lifetimes that we have lived have all built up to this one. And NOW is the generation to make your decision. And the decision has been made and the boats have left the harbor,,, My next incarnation will be in a new reality, into a higher vibration. (or i will do it all over again for the next 17,000 years, and hope to make a better decision next time. )

    The 'die-off' scenario is flawed. I agree,,, but it is a possibility that tptb have been preparing us for. Anything to distract us from self discovery. the truth is that we may not see it until we believe it. we may not see it until the end our our physical earth existences. Saying that everyone is going to die is not something that anyone can predict. But I WILL say that there has been a split,,, and I am getting off of this boat!!! This will be my last time here on physical planet earth as we know it. The secret occult teachings of the ptb have been preparing for this. They see it coming and, although they cannot stop it,,, they can keep and maintain their power base if they can keep the 'harvest' to a minimum. That is what all of the deceit is about. Remember, they have been controlling their incarnations on this planet for a long time. They will get another 17,000 years to rule over the souls who do not get on the right boat.

    Again, this is my own words. I do not pretend to answer for anyone else.

    On the 'new earth' we will be much more aware of our past lives,,, whereas on the old,,, it will be the same,,, nobody will even know that we are gone,,, because nobody will know about their past lives... In that sense,, yes,,, we have vanished before their eyes. (without them even knowing it.)

    I see it so damn clear in my head. I wish I could explain it better. Jake.
    I agree 100 %! I had a "friend" tell me the other day that I can't relate to people. I told him it's not that I can't relate in as much as I'm on a different "vibration level" and not that I'm better then anyone but I live differently then the people I'm around everyday. They want to talk about partying and getting put in jail and how they are being used etc;....I'm into understanding and trying to keep getting spiritually stronger daily. I hope that when I die I land somewhere on a higher level then this planet........

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    The concept is of the separating of realities. The boat leaving the dock is one we were given about 1999 as this was an important time in this progression that began at Harmonic Convergence. There have been years of opportunity for earth's inhabitants to understand that they / we are much more than our egos, minds and bodies. Those who have not released the dross in their energy field to allow in more Light, and therefore still vibrate at a lower level will not be able to move forward with the Terra. (Earth is not a spaceship, it is a living being IMHO.) Unfortunately some of the human race have sunk, and are in the process of becoming a slave race. Tragic and did not have to be. How exhausting, and personally dangerous, it has truly been trying to round up as many as possible into the last boats leaving the dock.
    Thank you Inelia for your timeframe of 3 generations for the 'peeling off' of the separation. We did have an understanding given to us of between 50 and 100 years so that coincides.
    Truly this past week has been the still point. Now the 'points of light' spread around the earth must step into the space with our highest intentions and most illumined creations.

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    Quote Posted by Chinaski (here)
    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    There's nothing like an open discourse about all of this with no disrespect to any one person either. Nobody in MHO knows everything and everyone knows at the very least something. Jake's explanation I would fancy but with certain doubts and uncertainties which Chinaski was concerned about. What about young children who are not yet capable of making an informed choice? Take my wife, she has heard a lot of dribble from the new age people and has no interest in anything pseudo spiritual. The forum here would not interest her as we would sound somewhat to her like the new agers. She even thinks my astrology pals and I are a bit weird. She is my grounding. Will she be left behind too and I will fly, without her grounding, to the extremes of the universe like a balloon with the air zooming out.

    Stan
    exactly. you've said it perfectly.

    i had a debate(i try to avoid them, but i got roped in this time) with a religious friend who was singing the usual tune: if you don't accept Jesus into your life, you're going to hell where Satan will slowly pull off your finger and toenails while his demon cronies pluck your eyelashes and stab you with pitchforks (oh yeah, and you'll be on fire too).

    my question to him was: what about the indigenous people of the earth, or those that have never heard of Jesus? What of children who are not prepared to make informed choices? All he could do was shrug.

    this is likely a bad metaphor, as i know Inelia is the furthest thing from a religious zealot(am not suggesting in any way, shape or form she is) but it was the first thing that popped into my head a few posts back while i was attempting to explain my concerns with the splitting planet/ascension theories.

    it would seem that there are those that are aware, those that are not, those that are ambivalent, and those-like children-who have absolutely no idea what any of this means, the ramifications and so on. what of the children? the ambivalent? the well-intentioned but spiritually jaded? the ignorant?
    Chinaski I was about to mention too about the innocent natives who live in jungles in Borneo and other remote places, who know absolutely nothing of what we are discussing here. They surely cannot be left behind for another 17,000 yrs or many lifetimes?

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