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    thedot, thank you for your input and it really wasn’t indented as a test. You make the assumption that Tehran has become westernised and ‘the centre of Tehran looks like Las Vegas’! This is the wrong assumption as when I lived there 30-40 years ago the capital was extremely modernised and when I arrived in London I thought how dull it was – so maybe Las Vegas has copied places like Tehran. Don’t forget the Western world especially USA always use propaganda as if they’d done it first. They would never have shown the true Iran back then and they still don’t.

    I very much disagree when you make the statement that the country is shown to have no culture of its own. The place is huge and the culture is more prominent in some places than others but it’s in no way negated. Maybe your impression of the Iranian culture differs from the actual Iranians themselves and that’s maybe how you seem to perceive the videos differently than myself (who actually is an Iranian and lived there).

    As far as having ‘to leave the country to go west’, I have no idea where you get that from. Many are recognised in Iran but as far as fame goes then yes, maybe they have to go West cos it’s like a religion over here but the Persians generally don’t buy into all this for the majority are able to see the shallowness in this and frankly they have more serious stuff to deal with.

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    Gita, as you have certainly noticed, I didn't say a word about Iran, and Tehran in particular, as they are in real life. I only wrote about how they look in those three clips. The very fact that you had to say, "No, it's not so", only confirms that one cannot "get educated" about real Iran by watching these clips.
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    Gita, as you have certainly noticed, I didn't say a word about Iran, and Tehran in particular, as they are in real life. I only wrote about how they look in those three clips. The very fact that you had to say, "No, it's not so", only confirms that one cannot "get educated" about real Iran by watching these clips.
    If you say so dot! I expect you know more about this than me.

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    I certainly don't know more than you about Iran, Gita. But, after 30 years in the press, I know the propaganda "kitchen". Just recognized it in these clips. That's how they presented life in the Soviet Union under Stalin and Brezhnev - "beautiful"
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    You saw the propaganda based on your extensive experience in the press and I saw the truth as I experienced it as a Persian. Amazing how our experiences dictate our view even when we look at the same thing. It sure is a colourful world dot.

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    Exactly You certainly see much more in these videos than I do. You don't need clips to tell you how people live in Iran, but that's exactly what I expected to see, and they only showed it 'through a shop window' - kind of animated album for tourists. For me, a country is its people, not its skyscrapers. In fact, even without knowing Iran in particular, I know that people there are the same as anywhere else, and live about the same way as anywhere else - maybe a little harder than in France or England, but with the same highs and lows, suffering from their authorities just as we do from ours, surprised how there is always enough money to build one more "beautiful nothing" and never enough for everybody to eat. This is what for me Iran and the West really have in common, not how their cities and top models look.
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    Gita,

    Thanks for your mail...I'll go to Iran next year for my 50'th B'day. I specifically want to go to Susa and Persepholis (?) excuse my spelling I'm a bit dyslexic. Before that I intend to join a Gaza relief boat just to see what happens..I'll probably go to Turkey next weekend to see if theflotilla happens.

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    Sounds an adventure Rimbaud. Have the most amazing time and be sure to post lots of pics.

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    Dear Gita,

    I will if it happens...any friends in Tehran that I can send your greetings to?...I won't ask for help there..I like to immerse myself in the culture for good or bad on my own

    Cheers

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    Dear Gita,

    I will if it happens...any friends in Tehran that I can send your greetings to?...I won't ask for help there..I like to immerse myself in the culture for good or bad on my own

    Cheers

    Rimbaud
    Thanks Rimbaud but I lost touch with my childhood friends over 30 years ago. You can pay the mountains a visit for me though as I do miss them lots, hehe. Have the most wonderful time there if you do go and don’t forget the elasticised jeans. I look forward to your postcards.

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    Will do Dear Gita when the time comes.

    I actually can't wait to enter Ancient Persia and meet the rank and file folk there..I'll go to the archaeological sites after I've met your people in real life. Gita I'm sure I mentioned my Iranian friends when I was a Public Scool boy.

    Cheers ma cher

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    Interesting you use the term "Persian".

    I had a friend many years ago who was married to a tall beautiful woman named Parvin - she refused to call herself Iranian - she was Persian.

    You're right about them being intelligent but it's not very intelligent to screw with the "Axis of Evil" - USA and the Rothschilds.

    Before the good ole boys get upset I mean the government of the USA - most of the people are beautiful but the rulers stink.

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    Israel recently warned of a 'pre-emptive' strike on Iran.

    How can a strike be pre-emptive when you announce it first?

    The US military/industrial complex can't wait to have a go at Iran - DANGER

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    It makes me so sad,sad,sad when I hear that song.

    Will 2012 bring a peaceful harmonious period or total conflagration?

    The UK is introducing legislation to control the net - the only way peaceful people can communicate. That will be a precursor to the US doing the same. RESIST at all cost

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    Quote Posted by concerned square (here)
    Does anyone know who is behind the stopahmadinejad.com website?
    There is an extremely graphic and disturbing video of a woman being stoned on it, but according to the comments after the video it actually happened in Iraq.
    Wonder if it's any more graphic than a black American youth being dragged around behind a pick-up?

    Definitely two sides to consider rather than being myopic

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