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    Default Dalai Lama is "personification of evil"


    http://rtn.asia/978_dalai-lama-personification-evil-china-told-us-ambassador-wikileaks


    I know this will upset MANY people and I was at first very skeptical when I found out about this, especially when I am a Buddhist myself. The "Free Tibet" movement is actually not what it appears to be from the mainstream news. It is a probable plot to establish a negative sentiment against China while the Elites work towards their implementation of the NWO and the WW3. I was not surprised when the organization running the campaign (who is headquartered in New York City), immediately removed my post on their facebook page for friendly discussion on the below video clips.

    A friend commented on this: "Probably that is not hard to understand with China blooming state of economy and their willingness to improve their own human rights record. Tibet is open for the world to see so whereas is the best place to start telling the world that they are peaceful and non-confrontational"

    People who have actually traveled to Tibet realize the civilians are very happy with the Chinese rule.



    Lets get to the bottom of this hoax.

    A background of Tibet's political history:

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    Default Re: Dalai Lama is "personification of evil"

    Are you sure your not a chinese laborer in a prison with an armed guard standing right behind you?
    People's republic of prapaganda?

    I'm not for any country invading the sovergn rights of any country.
    I'm against the USA invasion of Libya.
    I'm against the invasion of Iraq.


    And I'm against the invasion of Tibet.
    I'm sure the tibetan who gave testimony in favor of chinese rule were more than happy to tell you how happy they are under chinese rule with an SKS pointed squarelly at their midsection the whole time.
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    Hello Tenzin. I know exactly what you mean and agree. I have spent a number of years living with Tibetans. Although what you present here will be a shock to many.

    Tibet was a feudal system but now is under a form of tyrannical control. Not a lot has changed for the tibetan people living in the mountains. They have not profited from the Chinese takeover.

    Of course for some, now there is education but along the Chinese party lines. Overall the standard of living has gone up and more food is available for the people, plus medical assistance, clothes, shoes, of which was denied to them by the feudal system. I would say that this is an improvement.

    PS. You have a Tibetan name, yes?
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    I certainly do not have the full picture. Though I think everyone should look at it from all possible angles. It is definitely very hard on others when they could actually be paying people to create those movies, set people up, and whatnots to get people to think in their favor. We have to accept the fact that whatever is widely propagated and allowed to be in the mainstream deserve to be questioned further.

    As a Buddhist, I am well aware of the teachings and find what Dalai Lama is expounding do not actually flow well with the basics of it all.

    Many red flags, I must say...

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    Two westerners doing propaganda with their film with subtitles in Chinese, the message is clear isn't it. Chinese people, even American say that Tibetans are happy!. (now we understand the easiness of American propaganda, getting peoiple to do it is easy).

    Tenzin, tell me a balanced story please. the whole planet was much poorer and right after the war when the Dalai Lama left. The link is not that direct. Furthermore, the Chinese are also a conqueror empire, have always been. So explain to me why you say that the Dalai Lama is evil, while living in Singapour?

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    This video focuses upon a few topics of interest:

    - Uyghur and Han riots in Xinjiang
    - The Dalai Lama's recent statement that "life in Tibet is hell."
    - Why Tibet is a part of China
    - Tibet before 1959
    - Tibet after 1959 and "today"
    - The Dalai Lama's celebrity image and its exploitation


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2TvR...eature=related

    So much more needs to be looked at here.

    The Nazis and their expeditions to Tibet before and during the War 2.
    The CIA money that went to support the Dali Lama during and after the War 2.

    So much as usual goes on behinds the scenes.

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    Two westerners doing propaganda with their film with subtitles in Chinese, the message is clear isn't it. Chinese people, even American say that Tibetans are happy!. (now we understand the easiness of American propaganda, getting peoiple to do it is easy).

    Tenzin, tell me a balanced story please. the whole planet was much poorer and right after the war when the Dalai Lama left. The link is not that direct. Furthermore, the Chinese are also a conqueror empire, have always been. So explain to me why you say that the Dalai Lama is evil, while living in Singapour?

    Thank you
    Certainly 1 or 2 videos like that is not going to sway people's opinion and belief. I am not asking everyone to believe everything I have posted either. My intention is for all to challenge what is out there, even those links I shared. If one is serious enough, perhaps to take the active approach to go to Tibet to take a look and ask around. Then it may be clear what is true.

    To me, what is 'evil', is to keep us trapped in this matrix. Consciousness conditions Senses, Sense contact conditions Feelings, Feelings lead to Craving, Craving leads to Rebirth. <- Dependent Origination.
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    I would like to know more about the Bon religion?
    What part has survived?
    Also there was a practice of mummification that started while the holy person was still alive and took some years to accomplish.
    A lot of these mummies were venerated and I think destroyed by the English? [I am not a100% on that one]
    I have heard the odd negative whisper about the Dali lama but was not shore if this was disinformation?
    All clarification most welcome.

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    The first video IMHO has no substance. No real research. No variety of interviews with a number of Tibetans. I have been to India and gone to the Tibetan Market in Delhi and every Tibetan I spoke to there is not in favour of the Invasion of China into Tibet. I live in Australia and I know a Tibetan man who wears a free tibet t-shirt. Every tibetan I have know is against the INVASION OF CHINA INTO TIBET.

    As others have stated we need to take into consideration the "Freedom of Speech" history in China. If china does not allow it (e.g. vetting the internet etc etc) how can anyone trust such an untrustworthy "propaganda machine".

    That said I have done research on the Dalai Lama I personally do not see him as a spiritual teacher. Old Tibet was a feudalistic society filled with serfs. The tibetan religion appears to be an intricate mind control program well hidden behind a religious fascade. I even came across stuff that suggested that the Dalai Lamas used to eat their slaves - I don't know how trustworthy it is however?

    All I can say, what can you trust from Western and Chinese Media - they are both the same organisation of greedy, power obsessed creatures at a level just above what we can see in the press. IMHO
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    I think I'll just stick to his writings thank you. Things like this:

    'If you feel loving-kindness is useful, then you can try to increase it as a counter-measure against hatred and anger. If the number of these thoughts increases, then the number of their opposing thoughts will be reduced. That's the way to train your mind.

    Without such a training, everyone has negative thoughts and has positive thoughts, and both are equally strong. Certain conditions provoke positive ones. However, by making a conscious effort we can change that pattern, and this is what we mean by transforming the mind. It is a way to improve ourselves. I think that irrespective of whether you are a believer or a non-believer, the more you nurture a feeling of loving-kindness, the happier and calmer you will be. Your basic outlook will remain calm, and even if you hear a disturbing piece of news, it will not disturb you too much. So this is a very useful approach. On the other hand, if you are predominantly unhappy on account of hatred or certain negative thoughts you harbor, then even when good news comes your way it might disturb you even more.'

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    This clip explains in short what i have study myself about the history of Tibet, there was a great movie about this but it gets removed all the time.
    In short Tibets history are as corupt as the rest of the world and they got all the help they needed from the west...
    Tibet had a system for choosing a new Dalai Lama when the old one dies, when the Dalai Lama dies, the "royal" court appoints a regent who rules until the next reincarnation comes of age. Over the centuries some regents grew fond of their power and some Dalai Lamas expired prematurely, not to mention suspiciously.

    But if i remember right it was not allways so, they had a sort of a fail safe system. So money and power could not interfear how the new Dali Elama was chosen.
    I remember i saw the Tibets royal spending time with the british royal family, i guess the got all the suport they needed from that inbred family.


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    BuddhaDharma is about harmony and compassion.

    Propaganda is about disharmony and lack of compassion.

    Everything depends on your intention.

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    All I can say about this is: Gimme' a frigin' break!

    Some people seek to destroy just about everything....everything with any spiritual value...and I am not buying all this crap.

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    Quote Posted by animalspirits (here)
    All I can say about this is: Gimme' a frigin' break!

    Some people seek to destroy just about everything....everything with any spiritual value...and I am not buying all this crap.

    You seem to know something about the topic... would you care to share your insight? I'd like to know I am wrong with all the killings we have seen on the videos out in the public domain.

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    This seems to be a complex situation with many sides. However, unless it can be demonstrated that the Dalai Lama says one thing and does another, I don't see how he can be considered evil.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VgIMpQ2rjo

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    This is my own Personal View..

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    "The Dalai Lama is about as Spiritual as a Big Mac..!"

    "The Dalai Lama is the equivalent of the Black Pope in Asia..!"

    "Just another NWO Globalist Shill & CIA Operative used as a 'Political Puppet' to be used when required..!
    The Role of the CIA: Behind the Dalai Lama’s Holy Cloak

    March 23, 2008

    This incisive article by Michael Backman outlines the relationship of the Dalai Lama and his organization to US intelligence.

    The Dalai Lama has been on the CIA payroll since the late 1950s. He is an instrument of US intelligence.

    An understanding of this longstanding relationship to the CIA is essential, particuarly in the light of recent events. In all likelihood US intelligence was behind the protest movement, organized to occur a few months prior to the Beijing Olympic games.

    M. C. 23 March 2008

    Rarely do journalists challenge the Dalai Lama.

    Partly it is because he is so charming and engaging. Most published accounts of him breeze on as airily as the subject, for whom a good giggle and a quaint parable are substitutes for hard answers. But this is the man who advocates greater autonomy for millions of people who are currently Chinese citizens, presumably with him as head of their government. So, why not hold him accountable as a political figure?

    No mere spiritual leader, he was the head of Tibet’s government when he went into exile in 1959. It was a state apparatus run by aristocratic, nepotistic monks that collected taxes, jailed and tortured dissenters and engaged in all the usual political intrigues. (The Dalai Lama’s own father was almost certainly murdered in 1946, the consequence of a coup plot.)

    The government set up in exile in India and, at least until the 1970s, received $US1.7 million a year from the CIA.

    The money was to pay for guerilla operations against the Chinese, notwithstanding the Dalai Lama’s public stance in support of non-violence, for which he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1989.

    The Dalai Lama himself was on the CIA’s payroll from the late 1950s until 1974, reportedly receiving $US15,000 a month ($US180,000 a year).

    The funds were paid to him personally, but he used all or most of them for Tibetan government-in-exile activities, principally to fund offices in New York and Geneva, and to lobby internationally.

    Details of the government-in-exile’s funding today are far from clear. Structurally, it comprises seven departments and several other special offices. There have also been charitable trusts, a publishing company, hotels in India and Nepal, and a handicrafts distribution company in the US and in Australia, all grouped under the government-in-exile’s Department of Finance.

    The government was involved in running 24 businesses in all, but decided in 2003 that it would withdraw from these because such commercial involvement was not appropriate.

    Several years ago, I asked the Dalai Lama’s Department of Finance for details of its budget. In response, it claimed then to have annual revenue of about $US22 million, which it spent on various health, education, religious and cultural programs.

    The biggest item was for politically related expenditure, at $US7 million. The next biggest was administration, which ran to $US4.5 million. Almost $US2 million was allocated to running the government-in-exile’s overseas offices.

    For all that the government-in-exile claims to do, these sums seemed remarkably low.

    It is not clear how donations enter its budgeting. These are likely to run to many millions annually, but the Dalai Lama’s Department of Finance provided no explicit acknowledgment of them or of their sources.

    Certainly, there are plenty of rumours among expatriate Tibetans of endemic corruption and misuse of monies collected in the name of the Dalai Lama.

    Many donations are channelled through the New York-based Tibet Fund, set up in 1981 by Tibetan refugees and US citizens. It has grown into a multimillion-dollar organisation that disburses $US3 million each year to its various programs.

    Part of its funding comes from the US State Department’s Bureau for Refugee Programs.

    Like many Asian politicians, the Dalai Lama has been remarkably nepotistic, appointing members of his family to many positions of prominence. In recent years, three of the six members of the Kashag, or cabinet, the highest executive branch of the Tibetan government-in-exile, have been close relatives of the Dalai Lama.

    An older brother served as chairman of the Kashag and as the minister of security. He also headed the CIA-backed Tibetan contra movement in the 1960s.

    A sister-in-law served as head of the government-in-exile’s planning council and its Department of Health.

    A younger sister served as health and education minister and her husband served as head of the government-in-exile’s Department of Information and International Relations.

    Their daughter was made a member of the Tibetan parliament in exile. A younger brother has served as a senior member of the private office of the Dalai Lama and his wife has served as education minister.

    The second wife of a brother-in-law serves as the representative of the Tibetan government-in-exile for northern Europe and head of international relations for the government-in-exile. All these positions give the Dalai Lama’s family access to millions of dollars collected on behalf of the government-in-exile.

    The Dalai Lama might now be well-known but few really know much about him. For example, contrary to widespread belief, he is not a vegetarian. He eats meat. He has done so (he claims) on a doctor’s advice following liver complications from hepatitis. I have checked with several doctors but none agrees that meat consumption is necessary or even desirable for a damaged liver.

    What has the Dalai Lama actually achieved for Tibetans inside Tibet?
    If his goal has been independence for Tibet or, more recently, greater autonomy, then he has been a miserable failure.

    He has kept Tibet on the front pages around the world, but to what end? The main achievement seems to have been to become a celebrity. Possibly, had he stayed quiet, fewer Tibetans might have been tortured, killed and generally suppressed by China.

    In any event, the current Dalai Lama is 72 years old. His successor — a reincarnation — will be appointed as a child and it will be many years before he plays a meaningful role. As far as China is concerned, that is one problem that will take care of itself, irrespective of whether or not John Howard or Kevin Rudd meet the current Dalai Lama.

    http://www.thelasersshadow.com/ajmir.../wsdindex.html

    PS - Just another NWO Political Servant to be brought out and paraded when required..!

    What's so 'SPIRITUAL' about that..!..?
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    Most Buddhist monks are taught to look upon people as lesser entities. Psychology is used to manipulate people into serving the monastic communities.

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    When studying Tibetian Buddism in Sikkim under the opposing force to the Dalai Lama - KARMAPA, I was privy to the conflict between the two opposing forces. Now In Tibetian Buddism you have the yellow hats and the red hats. Karmapa is the red hat and the black hat. Karmapa was "murdered" on a visit to the USA in Chicago. Karmapa was considered to be the original teachings of Tibetian philosophy. Similiar to the split with the Catholic and the Church of England and the rivalry that followed.

    When in the USA he developed a quick fast spreading case of cancer of the throat He died within 2 weeks of being in the USA. The Dali Lama lead a war against the Red hats - saying that all Red Hat (non Gelugpa) Buddhist teachers are selfish magicians. This is no longer politically correct.

    EDIT..........
    I am not suggesting that the Dali Lama was directly involved in any murder.
    But is it historically correct that the two opposing schools were a sort of rivails.

    If any one had a hand in neferious wrong doings, we can only go back to the old source of assinations, political, religious. Sad.

    EDIT n 1974, Rangjung Rigpe Dorje set out on his first world tour. He took a second tour in 1977. As did the previous Karmapas, Rangjung Rigpe Dorje performed startling miracles. Numerous times he left footprints in rocks. He once tied sword blades in knots. During a visit to the Hopi reservation in northeastern Arizona, he made rain for the drought-stricken area.

    The Sixteenth Karmapa died in 1981 in Zion, Illinois, north of Chicago. After his death, his body remained upright in meditation posture for three days, and the area over his heart was warm. His body shrunk to the size of a child. During his cremation, his heart fell from the blazing body.
    The heart is now a venerated relic, stored in a stupa at Rumtek monastery. Bones that remained after the cremation of Rangjung Rigpe Dorje formed Buddhas and many relics. The Sixteenth Karmapa is best known for having brought the Dharma out of Tibet into the Western world.

    During the cremation, his two dogs died and a huge rainbow spread over the entire monastry.
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    Default Re: Dalai Lama is "personification of evil"

    Do you have any proof of these statements?

    EDIT: This was a question I asked re L&G's last post before it was edited, when it sounded as if he was implying the DL had something to do with the Karmapa's death.
    Which he was not implying, as he made clear.
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    Proof? Of murder? Of course not. This is speculation by his followers.

    The rivalry - The Karmapa lineage is the most ancient tulku lineage in Tibetan Buddhism, predating the Dalai Lama lineage by more than two centuries.
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