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    Default The death of Comet Elenin : a return to rationality?

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    Dear Friends:

    It can be taken as fact now that Comet Elenin is no more.

    http://sydneystargazers.com/2011/09/...f-comet-elenin

    With its departure comes the demise (I do hope!) of a prolonged wave of irrationality that could only have been in the interests of anyone who wants to further our enslavement while we're all getting distracted by the kind of viral nonsense that's been proliferating for months now.

    This honestly isn't intended to offend anyone... but it's really true. The opportunity is for those who found themselves swept up in the Elenin hysteria to learn from the valuable challenge of discerning reality from hype.

    Here are the next issues where this experience might be applied:

    1) The Calleman Mayan calendar date. Nothing will happen. It was just a calendar (whenever the Mayan New Year actually is, which is disputed). It was not the end of days, the end of time, prophecy of a rapture, or a timestamp for a mass awakening (see below). Folks, it was a calendar.

    2) Ascension. Inelia described it, beautifully, as the expansion of awareness. That definition works for me. This does not happen en masse in one day, one year, or even one decade. One has to work for personal and spiritual development. Unfortunately, wisdom is not bestowed upon us by a date in anyone's diary... not even the Mayans'.

    3) The Earth has not 'divided in two' (and nor will it) - and no-one's going to be 'left behind'. Really. For anyone still confused: please think, with the aid of a grounded friend if necessary, about the reductio ad absurdum involved.

    4) 'Planet X' (a brown dwarf star several times the size of Jupiter) is out there, heading this way, but we'll only be informed of it officially in a few years' time. It will not cause any civilization-destroying cataclysm, but is likely to trigger extreme weather and various forms of seismic activity - mainly due to its influence on the sun.

    5) NESARA. This may a very long time ago have had some toehold in reality, but is now definitely 100% fabrication. It'll continue to play out as long as there are those willing to believe that their 'packages' will be delivered any day now.

    6) The revaluation of the dinar. If this happens, no-one will get rich. Ask anyone who was in Mexico in 1993 when the peso was revalued. It works in the same way.

    So what will happen?

    --- Gradually increasing earth change activity. No show-stopping catastrophe. But more earthquakes, more volcanic eruptions, and more extreme or destabilized weather. (These events may well be exacerbated by HAARP and other high-technology devices by those who relish the opportunity for fear and disruption to permit problem-reaction-solution clampdowns and control measures.)

    --- Global financial instability (which may be catastrophic in an economic sense). This may be a serious threat to regular daily life because of political measures taken, and may well be upon us in the next 12 months or sooner. This is also highly likely to be artificially triggered... like some earth change events.

    --- A spike of solar activity that may lead to disruption to power supplies and global telecoms. This is outside the control of any human group. In the worst case scenario, this could be heavily disruptive - including the loss of digital data, burned out chips in anything electronic (which may mean no water, fuel, or very much else), and serious disruption to infrastructure. There's credible evidence that this is a known problem which the public has not been told about apart from a few 'test' announcements and publications. (The information is out there.)

    See http://projectcamelot.org/electrical_engineer.html for more details.

    --- Disclosure of ET existence: my $10 bet is by the end of 2013. Let's watch, wait and enjoy. (But when it happens, it will certainly not be the whole very tricky story.)

    *******

    In summary: we're not going to be magically and suddenly raptured or ascended out of the mess we've all made of Planet Earth. We have to face what we have done. It'll take a while. And we're the clean-up crew.

    We may be able to relax a little after another couple of generations. There's no vacation, or celebration, just yet. But we are most definitely headed in the right direction - for sure.

    Work on your own personal and spiritual development (there's a huge array of tools and techniques available to do so, and many of them work really well); be kind; be smart; and take responsibility for absolutely everything you can.

    No-one else can do that apart from yourself.
    When or if that happens... is entirely up to you.

    With my very best wishes to all, Bill
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    Default Re: The death of Comet Elenin : a return to rationality?

    Nice Bill!
    I truly appreciate what you have shared here!
    This resonates with my gut and sensibilities.
    Thanks Alan

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    Default Re: The death of Comet Elenin : a return to rationality?

    Well said.

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    Thanks Bill for bringing some much needed rational thoughts around here.

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    Thank you....I found Avalon while searching for information a few months ago on Elenin. I have foolishly let my mental state rise and fall with whatever "new" information came on Elenin and our sister sun. You know, we really can know truth when we hear it. I have learned...no ...re-learned a valuable lesson in all of this. Thank you for reminding me....and thank you for emdeavoring to keep Avalon's standards high and to keep our hearts and minds pure and true.
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    I like your scenario, Bill. if this is the case, then perhaps it is best for me to go ahead and write my books, participate in the creation of an alternative financial system, engage in passive resistance against the current system as it self-destructs and leave all of the fear-mongering to those who actually get paid by governments and the ptb to do so. What I really like about your scenario is that it totally leaves out any reference to extra-dimensional interactions with our plain old 3D reality or any of the potentialities that are put forth in the various prophecies and channelings. No Blue Kachina, no Red, no Galactic Federation, no Wave. It is very, very grounded and reassuring, I am quite sure, to many people although I'm also quite certain many others will find it a bit too dismissive but that's life.

    It will be very nice to live through interesting but not cataclysmic times. My own misgivings have more to do with the extra-dimensional realities that I have personally experienced at the astral level and the reality of such things, to include the many extra-sensory perceptive abilities and how those connect to the more extreme potentialities that so many have put forth. If life is to be experienced in such a relatively mundane manner barring your extremities of paradigmatic shifting and earth change activity over the next decade or more, I will be happy to enjoy my children and my life without the nuisance of worrying about people disappearing or aliens eating my energy.

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    Default Re: The death of Comet Elenin : a return to rationality?

    Very safe proclaimations.

    Changing earth, global financial instability, and very predictable solar activities. Yawn. But at least the previously angry people are calmer. Wierd post in my opinion, but thanks anyway Bill.

    And you are right - the change is up to us, but the extent possible goes beyond your predictions. Should we settle for first base? Perhaps I'm just in a debating mood .... my 2 cents.

    EDIT: I didn't mean to sound antagonistic, I'm sure I could have a very valuable discussion with Bill beyond the scope of this thread, while at the same time it may be innapropriate to discuss here with the intent of this thread - I get that.
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    Quote Posted by gooty64 (here)
    I truly appreciate what you have shared here!
    This resonates with my gut and sensibilities.
    I second that..

    Thanks for the update Bill, very nice to know..

    Kg

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    PixieDust and I determined that Elenin saw it was heading towards Earth and committed suicide.

    All things are subject to intepretation, and whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.
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    Default Re: The death of Comet Elenin : a return to rationality?

    I have a question.

    WHY did elenin break up?

    Was it that the whole thing was faked and whoever planned it planned to hype it up and then be like "OHH just kidding, its gone now dont worry."

    Or was there actually a mass named elenin and it just broke apart for no apparent reason?

    Is that typical behavior for comets.. to just randomly break apart? Does that mean Haleys Comet is going to "die" soon?

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    Default Re: The death of Comet Elenin : a return to rationality?

    Thank you Bill. I knew I could trust my instinct by not subscribing to all the mumbo jumbo about Elenin here and there, and you have just make it even more clearer for me and for possibly everybody else in here.

    The best of lies is always hidden between two truths, and it's great that you have decided to come out once again in the open, and clarify a few "odd" things.
    I have seen the life on this planet, and that is exactly why I am looking elsewhere.

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    Quote Posted by kathymarie (here)
    Thank you....I found Avalon while searching for information a few months ago on Elenin. I have foolishly let my mental state rise and fall with whatever "new" information came on Elenin and our sister sun. You know, we really can know truth when we hear it. I have learned...no ...re-learned a valuable lesson in all of this. Thank you for reminding me....and thank you for emdeavoring to keep Avalon's standards high and to keep our hearts and minds pure and true.
    Well said, Keep in mind though "truth" (not absolute Truths of which existence is governed) is generally subjective in relation to ones perspective. It can be different for individuals depending on their vibrational state.
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    Richard Hogland is eatin some crow right now...

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    Default Re: The death of Comet Elenin : a return to rationality?

    Bill what are you going to tell us next? There have never been any such things as UFO's, Et's visiting our planet, no underground citylike bases, no such thing as the Illuminatti, no interference on the planet in ages past by ET,s, no Fascism approaching every nation, No Ascension, PTB don't exist only governments control us? I am very aware at this moment that I am going overboard in a big way, but can you blame me? I was a "normal" person when I started watching you and Kerry's videos and I was in utter shock too about how this friggin world could be this way. Are you going to tell us next that Bob Dean and co. whom you interviewed are all a little crazy? You assured us all that Atticus was for real and kosher. Maybe the world is really still the same one that I left after watching Project Camelot and there is absolutely nuthin' to worry about then? Would you like to stick your neck out and tell us what you really think now about the world situation and time line? The Mayan calendar is ONLY a calendar is it. Mind you I never ever believed ALL your whistleblower videos anyway. Maybe you can tell us which whistleblowers you thought were truthful and the ones you didn't believe.

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    Default Re: The death of Comet Elenin : a return to rationality?

    Thanks Bill. The horizon has been distorted in those recent years.
    That's a very logical view of the future.



    Reminds me of a movie I saw years ago.Starring Adriano Celentano.
    His character is a convict who escapes from prison. Adriano stops the car to salute the local priest:

    - "Go with God my son," says the priest
    - "Thank you father, but better go with the car that I will arrive before you do"


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    Default Re: The death of Comet Elenin : a return to rationality?

    I'll wait until next month before i believe anything
    about Elenin. If it exists then it should be pretty
    visible by then.

    Kerry says that elenin was not destroyed and Mr.
    Elenin is saying that it was. Kerry says her source
    for that info is credible where as Mr. Elenin is the
    one responsible for this whole mess.

    I'll just wait and see for myself whether it's true
    or not..... I'm tired of hearing stories....
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    Default Re: The death of Comet Elenin : a return to rationality?

    I'm not saying it isn't the case that elenin has broken up, but to date everyone who claims it has broken up refer us to the sydney stargazers site.... If it has indeed broken up then surely there'd be photos backing this up from many people around the world, not just the few sources that seem to exist?

    There's a few sites that claim it hasn't broken up.... Even kerry believes it hasn't... Personally I'm neutral on the whole situation - but surprised there aren't more pictures of the comet haven brken up...

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    Thank God we can put all of this behind. I wasn't living in the States in 1997 0r 1998 I'm not sure of the year but it seems that there was another comet hype similar to this one.

    I was thinking today about it because even though I've been always a reader and I liked to know what was going on in the world, I didn't know about that comet then so in my country nobody lost sleep for it, there wasn't media following on it.

    That shows that reality is a tricky thing and even though we share a common reality, most of the time or always is very personal.

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    Hi Bill,

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts on these matters. Your post brings a much needed practical perspective on issues that in recent times have been topics of great speculation and debate on this forum.

    That said, I have a couple of questions for you if you don't mind me asking...

    Firstly, can you offer some insight into your thoughts on the so-called "galactic energy wave"? I'm interested to hear your take on this as my own research has led me to formulate the opinion that the wave indeed exists and is already starting to have certain "affects" on our planet.

    And secondly, what do you think about the fact that our planet is currently making its way back into the "balance/zero point" of the galactic plane and the theories that suggest this may also have some kind of affect on the planet?

    Cheers
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