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    Miracles do happen, and I know our prayers will still be going out for Martha.
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    Livestream report here. They're doing a good job.

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    Hello, Everyone: I have an update from Sierra. She'll post here later, and sends her love to you all. She checked in very briefly with the moderators, and I'll do my best below to relay how she is.

    She took this short video, fleeing the scene in a truck. It's daytime, but literally as black as night.
    Summary: she's fine, positive, strong and immensely thankful. She and her husband escaped with their lives, the clothes they were wearing, and with Pippin, one of their two cats. She thinks Martha must have died, hiding in a kitchen cupboard.

    She's sure their house will have been destroyed, as was almost the entire town of Paradise. The scenes were apocalyptic. They're staying with kind friends, and have a bed, food, and transport. They already have money (cash in hand) from insurance, a rental car, and will have a hotel room Sunday or Monday. She reports extraordinary heroism, selflessness, and genuine sacrifice all around. It's been like a war.

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    Thanks for the update Bill - Sierra we're there with you in spirit.

    Update - I just got an email from a friend in Malibu, where they are now evacuated, the fire there jumped the road and is heading to their homes.

    It's the Woolsey Fire what they are calling it

    Woolsey fire forces mass evacuations from Malibu to Calabasas; many homes lost

    Quote The Woolsey Fire made a destructive march through Ventura and Los Angeles counties on Friday, destroying numerous suburban homes, closing freeways and causing portions of cities from Calabasas and Thousand Oaks to Malibu to be evacuated.

    The 8,000-acre fire jumped the 101 Freeway Friday morning and was making a march toward the Pacific Ocean, fueled by dry conditions and extreme winds. Its rapid movement overnight prompted thousands of people to run from their homes as the flames came close.

    Firefighters spent the night and morning battling the fire by air and on the ground, in some cases preventing it from sweeping through neighborhoods. But fire officials say at least 20 homes did burn and perhaps more.

    About 75,000 homes in Ventura and Los Angeles counties are under mandatory or voluntary evacuation orders, but with the situation rapidly changing, that number is expected to grow. There have been no fatalities or severe injuries despite several reports of people being trapped by the fire.
    Ventura County fire officials said crews that had been working the Hill fire, which has scorched roughly 7,000 acres in the Santa Rosa Valley area, were redirected overnight to the Woolsey fire. Officials said they expect the Hill fire to burn to the ocean.


    ==Live Feed==

    https://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/2858/web - click in the |> play button to listen to live emergency activity and updates

    --update--

    looks like up to 150,000 folks will be evacuated.. 70,000 acres burnt and fire burning at a rate of one football field size area every second.

    --update--

    in the Chico area, 5 have died in their vehicles when their vehicles burnt while escaping. - https://www.paradisepost.com/

    Quote PARADISE — Five people died in vehicles while trying to escape the fast-moving Camp Fire, the Butte County Sheriff’s Office confirmed Friday morning.

    The five people were discovered in vehicles in the area of Edgewood Lane, near Pentz Road.

    The Sheriff’s Office said the victims could not be immediately identified due to burn injuries and autopsies would be conducted.
    --update--

    the fire which hit Paradise, is turning SOUTH 11:30 AM Pacific Time - southeastwards towards Oroville where many evacuee's were headed. Winds are gusting up to 50 mph.. (need to STOP the winds..)
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    More Paradise CA images












    Evacuations were extended up the Paradise ridge all the way to Inskip.

    Evacuations were lifted in Chico.

    The firefight was most active in Butte Creek Canyon and the Highway 70 area above Highway 149.



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    Those images are absolutely horrifying. I've never seen anything like that. Speechless.

    Sierra, what can we do to help you???

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    Posting this twice because I think it's merited. The most lucid explanations ever of what is causing the entire northern hemisphere to be moved by 6. earthquakes (at the start of this video:
    ...also posted by Avid here:
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1258912
    ...and of what is happening on the West Coast (starting at 31 minutes in), as to how the fires and earthquakes and volcanoes are related.
    If we really want to understand what Sierra and the whole West Coast are dealing with now and for the forseeable future, this is the video to watch, imho.
    Also keeping in mind that the West Coast produces a big percentage of the produce that supplies the whole rest of the US and other areas besides.
    Drought, fires, floods, earthquakes, volcanoes all can take a toll and if highways and bridges are affected by the increasing number of disturbances, shipping can certainly be affected as well.
    This is not something that can safely be ignored, and Avalon should be aware.
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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Those images are absolutely horrifying. I've never seen anything like that. Speechless.

    Sierra, what can we do to help you???
    Bill Ryan and the Project Avalon Moderators Team have created a Go Fund me to help Sierra. Anyone who would like to help, here is how you can!

    https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca

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    Quote Posted by Jean-Marie (here)
    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Those images are absolutely horrifying. I've never seen anything like that. Speechless.

    Sierra, what can we do to help you???
    Bill Ryan and the Project Avalon Moderators Team have created a Go Fund me to help Sierra. Anyone who would like to help, here is how you can!

    https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca


    Bumping this. Mike is spot-on, as always. Some of the images are poignant and heart-breaking.

    Thousands have suffered, and there are some heart-wrenching stories. But Sierra is one of our own.

    She has nothing. It's all gone. Please help her.


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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Jean-Marie (here)
    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Those images are absolutely horrifying. I've never seen anything like that. Speechless.

    Sierra, what can we do to help you???
    Bill Ryan and the Project Avalon Moderators Team have created a Go Fund me to help Sierra. Anyone who would like to help, here is how you can!

    https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca


    Bumping this. Mike is spot-on, as always. Some of the images are poignant and heart-breaking.

    Thousands have suffered, and there are some heart-wrenching stories. But Sierra is one of our own.

    She has nothing. It's all gone. Please help her.



    Wonderful idea!

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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Jean-Marie (here)
    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Those images are absolutely horrifying. I've never seen anything like that. Speechless.

    Sierra, what can we do to help you???
    Bill Ryan and the Project Avalon Moderators Team have created a Go Fund me to help Sierra. Anyone who would like to help, here is how you can!

    https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca


    Bumping this. Mike is spot-on, as always. Some of the images are poignant and heart-breaking.

    Thousands have suffered, and there are some heart-wrenching stories. But Sierra is one of our own.

    She has nothing. It's all gone. Please help her.

    Wonderful idea!
    ~~~

    Hello, Everyone: a couple of updates.

    1. The GoFundMe campaign has been started, and already has over $2000. Many members (and also guests) are diving in to donate, small amounts and large amounts.

    This is life-changing, life-affirming, and new-life-restarting for Sierra. Thank you so much to everyone for your extraordinary generosity and compassion.


    2. I've moved a bunch of posts considering the origin of the fire(s) to this existing thread. This is valid and interesting, but that belongs there, not here, as it's far more technical and bridges over to other issues that have been discussed on the forum for quite a while.
    Thanks again, everyone. Sierra is in good shape, and good cheer (we'd expect nothing else: but she is a very, very remarkable woman ), and she may be able to post a personal update here today.
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    Death toll from Camp fire in Paradise where Sierra and her husband escaped with their lives, swells to 23, with 100 still missing

    Authorities in Butte County discover 14 more bodies, and fire crews are still searching through the burn area for victims.

    The discussion of the actual activity of fires, the "California strangeness" is accessible via this link: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1259067 It is pointed out very clearly, improper fire mitigation was/is present in California. There are no "secret dew devices" (secret weapons) being used against Californians. It is also pointed out very clearly how fires spread.

    We all appreciate that Sierra and her family that made it out are doing well. The members are grateful for her unswerving service to so many. Thank you Sierra ! Much love.

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    damn.

    i'm sad... & i so loved Sierra's home (and the view from the deck).

    Keep up, Sierra.
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    Hello Everyone! I just heard from Sierra. She is exhausted and will hopefully give us an update tomorrow.


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    Deep sighhh - death toll now up to 42 confirmed around the Paradise area.. over 250 still missing..

    As was pointed out in the http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1259230 thread, there have been fire-tornadoes being reported in the Camp-Road-Wildfire which destroyed Paradise where Sierra and her family lived. It was pointed out to the disbelief of some that I felt fire-tornadoes have been responsible for the odd burning of melted vehicles in the burn area and still some green trees standing seemingly untouched. It is just a fact of how tornadoes move.

    The fire isn't expected to be contained until the end of November, and has and continues to expand.

    Here and now what the fire-tornado looks like in Paradise, CA during this current fire:





    Prayers are needed for those who have lost everything, for those who lost their lives, for a way to rebuild and not let these issues happen again, please..

    The Malibu fire update - the Sheriff has said, no volunteers (such as residents) who are NOT officials will be allowed into the area affected or to be affected by the fire, no matter what their skill level is - (paraphrased).. The ONLY ones to access that area will be the officials, the official fire-fighters (and rescue), the film crews that have been authorized by official pass, nobody else.

    ---2:30 Pacific time update---

    Reports are 44 confirmed passed away from the Camp-road-Fire in the Paradise area, and the amount missing has dropped back down to about 100.. About 7000 structures now listed as burned for that fire..

    Woolsey (Malibu) fire - 67,000 ! structures are being threatened by the fire which continues to grow and there are no fire line boundaries. Herve' points out to readers an important post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1259632



    No forests here near Malibu, just ground cover leading up through the tar-bushes surrounding the hillsides outside of Malibu.. very sad.. no way to mitigate those areas, they are not forests.. but gees they burn terribly, and the folks have the bushes all the way up to the houses - no firebreaks.. those bushes are like concentrated gasoline.. are they cleared, alas, no..



    ==update as of 8PM Pacific time==

    48 human souls have lost their lives at this point.. The amount of structures destroyed is up - An estimated 7,600 single-family homes and 260 commercial structures have been destroyed in the Camp road Fire that engulfed Paradise, CA. Countless animals and pets have been harmed, killed or affected.

    ===update 14th November 9PM Pacific time===

    sighhhhhh ------- 56 people now confirmed as having lost their lives in the Camp-road-Fire.. Count up for missing back to 100 plus..

    --- a new fire --- called the Sierra fire.. Sierra Fire erupts near Los Angeles as death toll rises in Woolsey Fire.. A new brush fire ignited in Southern California, consuming vegetation and threatening homes in the suburbs east of Los Angeles, officials said Wednesday. The Sierra Fire is at Fontana, about 50 miles east of downtown L.A.

    +++++++ Update +++++++

    15 November 2018 - the missing persons in the Paradise area (Camp-Road-Fire) has been bumped up to 300+ missing..

    Here is the list: https://www.buttecounty.net/Portals/...-14-202802-993

    140,000 acres (nearly 220 square miles) have been burned.

    It is now at 40 percent containment, a week after it started. Since Nov. 8, the effects of the fire have killed 56 people and destroyed 8,756 homes. Countless animals, pets, wildlife have been also affected.

    ===Updated: Nov 16, 2018 10:54 PM PST===
    71 dead, over 1000 missing; 12,263 structures destroyed

    ===Updated: Nov 17, 2018
    Sheriff Kory Honea said the list was dynamic and could easily contain duplicate names and unreliable spellings of names.

    Some on the list have been confirmed as dead by family and friends on social media.

    Others have been located and are safe, but authorities haven’t gotten around to marking them as found.

    (No DEW) - Firefighters were gaining ground against the blaze, which blackened 222 square miles (575 square kilometers). It was 45 percent contained and posed no immediate threat to populated areas. Crews managed to stop it from spreading toward Oroville, population 19,000.

    This patch of California, a former Gold Rush region in the Sierra Nevada foothills, is to some extent Trump country, with Trump beating Hillary Clinton in Butte County by 4 percentage points in 2016.

    ================================================== ===

    18 Nov 2018


    BBC continues to ask for people in the Paradise area to be interviewed. They are taking interviews with anyone who was there and submits to BBC at the following:

    Quote Have you been affected by the wildfires? If it is safe to do so please get in touch. Email haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk.

    Please include a contact number if you are willing to speak to a BBC journalist. You can also contact us in the following ways:

    WhatsApp: +44 7555 173285
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    Text an SMS or MMS to 61124 or +44 7624 800 100

    reference page for the above: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46248510
    The death toll rose to 76 on Saturday after more bodies were found, most of them in Paradise.

    ===== update =====

    Monday 19th November 2018

    Rain is forecast . An upper level LOW is off the coast ready to come in during the day Tuesday, with another system coming in Wednesday and Thursday.

    Camp Fire evacuees debate leaving Chico Walmart parking lot (refuge center) as rain approaches

    65% now contained. About 150,000 acres burned. 14,552 structures burned. Missing number drops slightly to about 991.

    ========= update =========

    Tuesday 20th November 2018

    Camp road fire in the Paradise area has claimed 79 lives.. The amount of missing has dropped down to about 700 people.

    Rain remains forecast which should diminish the fire potential. Already there are "complaints" being spoken that rains will make it miserable in the fire-burn areas, making it difficult to find body remains. (sigh). Save the dead or save the living?
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    sth beautiful for you all... always gets [to] me

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    aahhh...

    PS: This one is hidden in the "corporate muzak" at the workplace... always stops me in my tracks

    PPS:

    and this one, to get me out of "the valley of tears":

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    what a year. no, seriously, many people close to me have faced unbelievable personal, financial and commerical challenges this year. The most confident I know have been brought to their knees this year and had some REAL reality checks. Me? I lost my sight waking up in a hotel room in May this year, and have had overcome a phobia of needles to receive injections in my one eye. (I lost my left eye in a shooting accident age 15), but here, right now - I LOVE THIS FORUM.....

    ...there's the weird, the wacky, the out there and also the REAL AUTHENTIC EXPERIENCES of many, who have been round the houses, and many who do not suffer fools gladly, many who are somewhat discerning and can smell the BS and see through the veneer of spotlight hungry supposed whistleblowers.

    I feel for those in California, I feel for those who have suffered loss this year be it financial, emotional or otherwise. Sometimes I dip in here, then life gets in the way, as I wrestle and overcome my own challenges to experience this existance the way I want to and choose like many of you Thank you for allowing me to be me when I can.

    As for me, right here, right now, I try not dwell on my fears, or my regrets, I endeavour to focus on new goals and desires on the future - what they are i irrelevant to my fellow avaloners, but the premise is important...

    ...I focus on the now in becoming what I want to be, do and have, for I dont want to be just a human being, I am a human becoming, and together we can all become so much more. I like to share my thoughts, my opinions and feelings in here, it feels like a real trusted community - you dont have to like me, trust me or agree with me - that's why we exist isn't it - to be individual and unique - and not comply with other sheeple?

    Thankyou for allowing me to share when I can. this was one of those moments...
    ...Here and NOW.

    As confidence grows, i will share more (If you're open to it - on many topics....) thankyou in advance.
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    So much information......

    Worth watching if you want to dive a little deeper into Physics / quantum physics.... wow...
    Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times.
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    The rains have now started in Paradise - up to 6 inches is predicted over the next few days, and the fires could very well be extinguished by then.

    Some folks are dreading the rains as it will make it difficult to work in the mud, and ash. Local reporters are saying now "mother nature" is not cooperating ! So are they saying let it burn? Or make it wet so the fires are put out? And the forests less like a tinder-box.. (Damned if you do, damned if you don't I guess..)

    ===Thanks Giving evening update ===

    Camp road Fire
    Location: Butte County
    • 153,336 acres burned
    • 95 percent contained
    • 84 fatalities confirmed
    • 560 unaccounted for
    • 19,124 structures destroyed (14,378 residences, 514 commercial and 4,232 other buildings)

    Woolsey Fire
    Location: Los Angeles County, Ventura County
    • 96,949 acres burned
    • 100 percent contained
    • 3 fatalities confirmed
    • 1,643 structures destroyed, 364 damaged
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