Here and Now...What's Happening?

[Carmody]

I think that collectively, that humankind is on the cusp of going through some form of this:




which means that the 'insanity'* is only going to be on the uptick for quite some time.

*running around, arms flapping, saying "Is this a dagger which I see before me..."

[ulli]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by ulli (here)

Ernie Nemeth already sent a similar post. He also found that people got annoyed at him for his rants about the "injustice" of this world.

Thing is, for those of us who listen to these kinds of rants we end up confused, not knowing where to direct our sympathy, the children out there who are starving, or the ranter him/herself.

Loath as I am to dredge this up again ... pavlov's calz that I am ... tough love/mirrors/detachment ... ring a bell???

Where does detachment begin and compassion leave off???

Let us set aside distant land starving for a moment ...

Walking by a victim of a crime laying in the street looking up with pleading eyes for compassion ... how does detachment fit into that again??? Are we to smuggly assume there is a spiritual "lesson" going on there we must respect??? Walk on by ... don't worry you will understand it all with your life review.

Not trying to be snide and I ***really*** have no stomach for any more fighting.

I simply don't understand the disconnect there.

Clearly I am missing something.

Calz, this is called tough love, not fluff love, ok?
9eagles posts brought that term to the Village and now I am responding to her in her own language:
slap hard...hard slap:

9eagle won't take responsibility for her own perception, nor even consider that her rants might be counter-productive.
I really wish she would stop attacking imaginary "people" who aren't quite on the same page in her 'here and now'.

No two people see things the same way, and for every rant about "people" who aren't living up to her expectation I could (if I chose to do so)
send her a long long list of incredible "people" who are making endless sacrifices but are too busy to even let the world know how truly saintly they are.
Some of us have had our own huge dose of negativity and made a choice about what conditions we can operate under.
All we ask for is some respect.
If she perceives someone as having a good time and burying their heads in the sand she might not be seeing that they are on a sabbatical from hellish service at that brief moment in time.
She might consider that taking umbrage with that sort of thing it is because she herself might have fallen short, somewhere along the line, and her subconscious is sending her a subtle message via her projection.
To effect any change each human being needs an environment of peace, one that they can be allowed to control, up to a point.
Ranting, whining, complaining, attacking, do nothing other than ruin such an environment and only serve to feed more of that same negativity.
In my next post I will share what is going on in our own Here and Now in this valley in Costa Rica.
Anyone who is out to dump emotional blackmail around may want to avert their eyes.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Yeah, six more weeks of winter, Phil the groundhog is on dutch tv now, grinn, unbelievable.

[1inMany]

Here in NE Texas, it has been unseasonably warm. It is beautiful weather, but very unusual. I can't decide whether 6 more weeks of winter means unseasonably warm winter or real winter and it is going to snow or something.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Here it is minus 12 celcius, and i have to go out to work on my bicycle in 5 minutes, i dont wanna, but duty call, they better be gratefull tonight, grinn.

[9eagle9]

It's interesting that the rescue squad won't come into Plato's cave.

If the attempt were made it would be a the comedy and tragedy that it would be considered a home invasion?

'Come get me but I'm not leaving! '

I admit I enjoy my bear-in-the-cave episodes periodically.

But even the bear leaves its cave sometimes.

[Carmody]

Posted by Nora (here)
We have to go within. We're our own guides.

Native American Indian peoples have had about 150 years to adujust to Christianity and the industrialized western world and mind. Suicide -nihilism is about 30 to 40 percent among children 8 to 19 years of age on the reservations, alcholism is about 40 to 60 percent, unemployment 50 to 80 percent. Just remembered -diabetes 50 percent and obesity 60 percent.

The Native American religious freedom act was enacted in 1976. 5 to 10 percent of the people practice their traditions. About 50 percent incorporate Christian religions with their traditional ways. The rest are either full Christians or totally assimalated into the western culture and do not know anything about their own people.

I've spent a lot of time with the people from Mexico to the Northern states. There is one thing they, the elders and the traditionalist, all say about these times.... the energy of the earth is changing and that there will be a great light wave that will come, "do not look at it turn away from it and there will be great floods."

Love,

Nora

we are all related

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmT_rqj2mEo

[ViralSpiral]

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Ut humiliter opinor


Preacher

• Planned
• Arises from intellect
• Listener becomes bored
• Listener's doubts not answered
• Ego present

Teacher

• Spontaneous
• Arises from soul
• Listener feels "heard"
• Doubts lifted without needing to ask
• No ego present

[9eagle9]

I'm not buying the excuse we are not on the same page. That fault is everyones fawtly towers of perception. Attack the messanger but message isn't going away. Because you are calling it in. It's not happening by 'accident' or tvia he character flaws of others.

That is an excuse people use not to read the book. I'm not on the same page.

That' just tells me people want to do be percieved differently as others, when are basically all composed of the same stuff.

No I'm not blinded by the light. If I thought simply talking about the light would intiate an increase in it I'd talk more about it.

What people are doing in shrinking from who they reallly are is projecting imaginery people, when the real article is so much more.

[ViralSpiral]

Posted by Carmody (here)
I think that collectively, that humankind is on the cusp of going through some form of this:




which means that the 'insanity'* is only going to be on the uptick for quite some time.

*running around, arms flapping, saying "Is this a dagger which I see before me..."

[ViralSpiral]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)

'Come get me but I'm not leaving! '

Interesting projection

[ulli]

I had minor surgery yesterday, which meant two days of preparation by not eating.
So I missed out on an event that happened as my husband didn't want to worry me with what was going on around me.
Two days ago a worker, the same one I had mentioned before, whose wife had just moved out was on a drinking binge.
His boss, my brother-in-law, was on vacation at the beach and we were alone in our complex with this guy.
He had been given instructions to return the cash box from the restaurant to our house every night, for safekeeping.
Two nights ago he didn't appear and my husband had to go to his house to collect it,
together with instruction from his brother to tell his man he was fired for disobedience.
He had already been given three chances and this one was his final one.
Instead of returning the cashbox he came after my husband swinging a huge machete in the air, cursing him at the top of his voice.
Oddly enough, my husband has been his only benefactor here, even giving him needed furniture,
maybe we were the only people here who had been really kind to him.
Anyway, by shining his torchlight into the man's eyes and at that moment his cell phone ringing startled the man and he dropped the machete.
My husband got a hold of it and ran home leaving the drunk searching in the dark for his knife.

I only found out about all of this last night after the operation.
Now the guy is in jail, my brother-in-law returned early from vacation and pressed charges.
Meanwhile I have been feeling sorry for him, after all, he is an alcoholic, and when sober would never do such things,
I tried to get my husband to go and talk to him and do something to have him committed to a rehab instead,
as jail will destroy this man. In other words, I want my husband to do something larger than just go by the book and take him to court.

If you ask why don't I do something about it myself here is my answer:
Going to that jail as a blonde foreign woman would not only send the wrong message to all...as it feeds simply too much into the cliché of the naive foreigner archetype, but would actually cause a gossip machine going that would have years of negative repercussions.
So each person can only do what they can do: be alert and wait for spirit to show them the wisest plan of action.

[Calz]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
And when other's laugh at you? Because you've created a opening for them to do so by labeling yourself as such? Not laugh with you, but at you? You are fortunate to not have people who make agreement with the label that you chosen to represent yourself. That's not really laughing at one's self, like "Ooops silly me I spilled my beer on my tax return." I can't see where it's even remotely funny for even a moment to refer to yourself as a Retard when I see the potential in people to be so much more. But that is where the trap is.

If you ever find yourself in the position of feeling stupid, or feeling lost, reflect on what labels we choose to have other's see us by. Because there's always someone out there willing to believe what you show to the world. And they will convince you of it as well.

This here is one of the conditions that I speak of.

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)

Cal, You've asked me to answer to or account for many things that I say. I would ask you to allow me a question if we want a fair and equal world.

What does your avatar Ava-Retard mean?

Nothing other than the play on words for "avatar" and not being above laughing at myself first and foremost as I enjoy taking humor as I see it in the world at large.

Twas a split second choice when registering. Nothing more.

Gosh 9 ... you know I never gave it that much thought.

I have a fair number of friends here and I have never once felt "laughed at".

Of those friends I have never felt any linkage to myself being a "retard".

Funny as we had fun with frolic for many months and exchanged a few PMs if you were so concerned about my name and reputation why didn't you mention it earlier???

I mentioned earlier you were one of my first "friends" here and that is true. Amidst the "Charles" nonsense (which it seems you don't believe it to have been so) I asked a few simple questions regarding channeling among my first posts. You took time to answer while most other established members did not want to be bothered by newbies.

You have remarkable depth in your experience and are able to express it with great skill.

Just maybe that is why I "asked you to account for or answer to many questions".

The bar is higher for those that bring higher knowledge ... or suggest to.


Why you chose to dump tough love to begin with ... I will still need to work out.

Perhaps your intentions were superb ...

My badly worded reference to freewill would have been better expressed as "did I ask for your tough love???" You are not fond of "new age" concepts but even when one has the best of loving intent ... you don't *dump* it on someone without consent.

As for Ishtar ... might as well bring this all out ... it is clear in retrospect you and US had good reason to take her to task.

I did not know that.

I simply responded to what I perceived as an eagle swoop on another member who had a right to post her/his beliefs. Crocodile tears ... well ... oooops my bad. Minnow swimming among sharks ... who knew?

More than was asked for ... yep ... but if we are to converse on "fair and equal" terms then let's talk.


Lastly ... I found it a bit amusing that after all the history we enjoyed previously the "only" ... "thank you" ... you blessed me with was when I suggested I was leaving the village for the sake of peace.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

You're up ... like my lawyer 10 year old son no doubt you have an answer for all.

Cal

[eaglespirit]

...hmmm , I walk away for a minute and it transcends to deep, deep transformation matters transmuting the now...here and now : )

Yippeeekyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaa....expanding the expanding edges of the outer edge : ) : ) : )

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

"Genius all over the world stands hand in hand, and one shock of recognition runs the whole circle round." -Herman Melville

[benevolentcrow]

I do what I can do for others when I can do it. I let eagles fly and roost where they may. Here and Now I think of the beautiful blue sky a rarity in the NW and I am grateful. Grateful for the whole wheat, oatmeal, dried cranberry cookies I made. Grateful for feeling good today. I won't take the many blessings I have in my life for granted. Here and Now the Village is a good place to be when you can quickly skim over post that you don't want to dwell on, and stay awhile on those you do!

[9eagle9]

There's sometimes a situation and I know this to be true by experience that sometimes it not your friends laughing at you, its the people that your friends have to hear laughing about you. That is how we are all related. Our friends are compelled to carry the burden, and then compelled to enter into a conflict on your behalf.
And true friends would do willingly enter into that conflict to preserve what they see in you in spite of what you have chosen to present to the world.

This is no different than watching soemones ego attack them and being compelled to re-frame back into who they really are. We then make the choice to believe the ego or trust the friend. Which one is really throwing a life line.

Or we could ask why are walking in front of the bus?

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
And when other's laugh at you? Because you've created a opening for them to do so by labeling yourself as such? Not laugh with you, but at you? You are fortunate to not have people who make agreement with the label that you chosen to represent yourself. That's not really laughing at one's self, like "Ooops silly me I spilled my beer on my tax return." I can't see where it's even remotely funny for even a moment to refer to yourself as a Retard when I see the potential in people to be so much more. But that is where the trap is.

If you ever find yourself in the position of feeling stupid, or feeling lost, reflect on what labels we choose to have other's see us by. Because there's always someone out there willing to believe what you show to the world. And they will convince you of it as well.

This here is one of the conditions that I speak of.

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)

Cal, You've asked me to answer to or account for many things that I say. I would ask you to allow me a question if we want a fair and equal world.

What does your avatar Ava-Retard mean?

Nothing other than the play on words for "avatar" and not being above laughing at myself first and foremost as I enjoy taking humor as I see it in the world at large.

Twas a split second choice when registering. Nothing more.

Gosh 9 ... you know I never gave it that much thought.

I have a fair number of friends here and I have never once felt "laughed at".

Of those friends I have never felt any linkage to myself being a "retard".

Funny as we had fun with frolic for many months and exchanged a few PMs if you were so concerned about my name and reputation why didn't you mention it earlier???

I mentioned earlier you were one of my first "friends" here and that is true. Amidst the "Charles" nonsense (which it seems you don't believe it to have been so) I asked a few simple questions regarding channeling among my first posts. You took time to answer while most other established members did not want to be bothered by newbies.

You have remarkable depth in your experience and are able to express it with great skill.

Just maybe that is why I "asked you to account for or answer to many questions".

The bar is higher for those that bring higher knowledge ... or suggest to.


Why you chose to dump tough love to begin with ... I will still need to work out.

Perhaps your intentions were superb ...

My badly worded reference to freewill would have been better expressed as "did I ask for your tough love???" You are not fond of "new age" concepts but even when one has the best of loving intent ... you don't *dump* it on someone without consent.

As for Ishtar ... might as well bring this all out ... it is clear in retrospect you and US had good reason to take her to task.

I did not know that.

I simply responded to what I perceived as an eagle swoop on another member who had a right to post her/his beliefs. Crocodile tears ... well ... oooops my bad. Minnow swimming among sharks ... who knew?

More than was asked for ... yep ... but if we are to converse on "fair and equal" terms then let's talk.


Lastly ... I found it a bit amusing that after all the history we enjoyed previously the "only" ... "thank you" ... you blessed me with was when I suggested I was leaving the village for the sake of peace.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

You're up ... like my lawyer 10 year old son no doubt you have an answer for all.

Cal

[Carmody]

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skydln4BhDI

[9eagle9]

I did not know that.

I know. I also note that people didn't raise such a kerfluffle about when Ishtar called herself out, they wanted to hide it. This is all about choice. Hiding the wounds instead of bringing them up to be healed.

Would I be better regarded if I let people walk in front of freight trains bearing down on them? Because to mention that the chicken crossing the road is about to get run over is not a 'pleasant' thought. And you think that being exposed to tough love is harder than having to employ that love? Do you ever have to get tough with your child? Are doing that because you're mean? Negative. lacking in character?

Real love has to do the tuff stuff because a weak facsimile of it can't. Real love doesn't have much to do how we personally feel about each other.

And I also know much of personal animosity directed my way is because I refuse to see my self as lacking . I know that as well.

Is the world a better place if I see myself as lacking or does it just make other feel safer?

In refusing to fall into the trap of lack, I don't see the lack in others. I see the choices for lack they are making, but behind those choices there something else worth preserving. Do we preserve it by flapping our limp wrist at it or having to get out the tough love.

If someone is pretending to be a drug addict do I agree with them or say stop pretending to be a drug addict and get back to who you are?

[Calz]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)

There's sometimes a situation and I know this to be true by experience that sometimes it not your friends laughing at you, its the people that your friends have to hear laughing about you. That is how we are all related. Our friends are compelled to carry the burden, and then compelled to enter into a conflict on your behalf.

And true friends would do willingly enter into that conflict to preserve what they see in you in spite of what you have chosen to present to the world.

This is no different than watching soemones ego attack them and being compelled to re-frame back into who they really are. We then make the choice to believe the ego or trust the friend. Which one is really throwing a life line.

Or we could ask why are walking in front of the

... and this would be your latest lesson in tough love ...

no my friends are not laughing at me directly ...

... but I am making all my friends suffer because they are being laughed at on my behalf???

I would love to use some really big letters now ... but for the time being I will respect Carmody and do my best to keep the decible level low here.


Hmmmm


Well lets open this up for village dialogue.

What say you villagers???


Am I an embarrassment and shame to you all ... too much for you all to burden???

Poll anyone???