Here and Now...What's Happening?

[PurpleLama]

One, take that baby home and put a castor oil pack on her belly. To hell with western medicine.

Going the anti biotic route, do make sure she gets lots of good probiotics afterwards.

[ulli]

Rock formations in China

[donk]

I saw that not too long ago, nice pics ulli, they are more impressive than the ones they remind me of.

I have family out in the painted hills of Oregon (Ochoco Mts), but no pics on my phone, will get some more if I get to go back this summer...this is from web:




Ansel Adams got a couple better shots, my phone is a pain though.

I have some great ones, maybe I will be able to dig them up...

[1inMany]

Maybe this will be the last update from the hospital. We can hope. The doctor and Mike won, wanting Em here another night. I am pretty sure we go home tomorrow, and yes, Reilly we are going for the caster oil pack when we walk in the door.

The doctor is going on a hunch of sorts that this is a specific bacteria that he has seen before, so Em is on the only antibiotic that kills it. She will be on it for a few more days. I am trying to be okay with staying here, in this environment, another night. I honestly think that I can because of what you all have done to help us. Em is taking anti-nausea medicine that she uses at home, and it works really well. Also knocks her out. So her body is at least resting.

Thank you all, Much Love,

[yukondiva]

Posted by 1inMany (here)
Update 1. Saw doctor. Says he thinks it is either appendicitis or some stomache bug that is going around, a bacteria not virus. Okay, this is the same thing everyone else has said. He says he has not seen the scan, but he has never seen appendicitis that did not show on one.

He is sending another doc this afternoon, supposed to be a gastr intestinal guy.

Meanwhile, fever went from normal to over 103 in one hour, and she is dry heaving, that's a new thing.

The doctor said something they said last night, too, that back in the olden days, they would have just gone ahead and taken out the appendi guess this new doc is making the call.

At any rate, we aren't going home today.

Check in when I can. Sorry about all the typose I am probably leaving...

Thanks for helping, everybody. She appreciates it, too.

Much Love,

I hate to admit it but here it goes, when I was leaving to come down here I felt like I was coming down with something. By the time I landed I was feverish. That night was hell. I was sick four days could not eat or drink and finally asked to be taken to the hospital. The first thing I saw as they wheeled me in (by this time I couldnt even walk) was a dead child about seven months old, over the next fifteen hours I sat on a wooden chair as they pumped, who knows what into me( they don't tell you, they just start an iv.).

For a moment I just want to go into the subject of socialized medicene, I used to be really for it. Medical care for everyone! But in the hours I sat in that emergency room, with no privacy, with screaming physicians ( talking in english by the way so people couldnt understand them) I saw more accident victims, and yes even more death, than I have ever wanted to see in my life. There were so many accident victims coming in, the beds were right up to each other and right next to me and about fifteen other people sitting in wooden chairs against the wall. When someone was screaming or moaning in pain, they would shove the rolling bed into a room with a door.The nurses and Drs were rude in the extreme, like robots no compassion whatsoever, the walls were dirty, with peeling paint. The cart the iv prep was kept on was a old wooden cart that had peices of duck tape holding it together. The odor was unbelieveble the floors dirty with age and god knows what else.

As I was sitting right in front of the operating room, I watched at least twenty people wheeled in and out, with every kind of injury you can imagine. After 15 hours I could stand up and I was determined to leave, the smell of death was in the air, litterally you could smell the stench of rotting flesh, plus the young guy next to me in my iv chair ( who was there before me) had a flesh eating bacteria on his hand. It was oh so lovely to be rubbing his elbow the whole time I sat in that wretched room.

After 15 hours no blood work had been done. I went to the Drs desk and I asked to be released. Oh no you cant leave your too sick, you could die! Well I said i will take that chance. Oh no you must have someone sign for you. No problem family is waiting outside for me. So I call to the family member and when she got there, they told her that if she signed me out and I died it would be her fault. She was very freaked out by that, so I turned to her and said, " I am an adult, I take full responsibility for what happens" convinced she signed the paper.

I was still very ill and three days later I decided to go to a private hospital in the big city an hour away. The first thing they did was run blood test. I had a very high white blood cell count and my pancrease was inflamed. This took less than two hours. The hospital was clean, the Drs compassionate, the equipment state of the art. But they wanted to keep me over night to run more test and give fluids and antibiotics. They wanted two thousand dollars upfront.

The relative who signed me out of the hospital from hell was like, you cant afford that, we will take you to another hospital. Now I had already spent about two thousand already and was in no condition to argue. So we loaded up in the car and drove to the other hospital.As it turns out my relative took me back to the first hospital, this time I was on the other side in a waiting room. There were hundreds of people. I was in a wheel chair, after waiting five hours I saw a Dr, as I was near hallucinating and did I mention that when your sick it is impossible to understand another language? Well this guy starts yelling at me, I am so out of it I don't even realize he is talking to me. My relative says "she doesn't speak spanish" so he stops yelling, looks at me ask me five questions and I am sent out to the waiting room. So an hour or two go by, and someone comes and takes me to get x-rays. Back into the waiting room.

A guy walks in moaning in pain, goes up to the window, the woman says, youll have to wait like everyone else, the guy gets nasty, the guards are called, then the police come. Next thing you know twenty women are screaming about how they have been there twenty hours without seeing a Dr. I did notice though if you fell over while you were waiting they would take you to the emergency room. So another couple hours go by and they wheel me into the Dr with my x-rays. The Dr holds them up to a dim light bulb and says " your full of ****". Since I had uncontrollable diahrrea for the last seven days, and didnt have the mental facilities to explain anything to anyone, I just turned to my relative and said take me home.

So after that big long speal two things. A thought on how socialized medicene can go very wrong. And I had the same symptoms of em never found out what it was. But I did eventually get better. I believe it was a very nasty stomach virus, and possibly food poisining on top.

I will keep her in my thoughts and prayers and hope for a speedy recovery. And if you hate the hospital scene just think how much worse, it could be. I will never be able to erase from my memory what happend the two days I spent in that hospital.

[sleepy]

xxxx xxxxxx

[1inMany]

Holy sh1t yukondiva! I'm feeling terribly thankful for this small town hospital now.

Yes, and thnks sleepy too, the have seen her pancreas. That scan with contrast allowed them to look at everything in there. I was asking Mike about it, he was in the room with her watching the whole time. Saw ovaries with no cysts, saw all the organs, saw that she has two kidneys. They were not specifically looking, but I have some confidence that they would have looked for abnormalities in general.

I will ask about it specifically if she is not bettter in the morning, and I so not think it is weird, sleepy.


Thank you all for sharing yourselves in this Village.

[Flash]

We have socialised medecine in Canada and I have seen some horror, by never to that level yukondiva. Treatments are still quite good here. Aren't you Canadian anyhow in origins? So you know.

It seem the doctors are overworked in Costa Rica. For them to scream like that, they must be.

I have been in socialized medecine in Turkey, - in fact even relatively poor countries have socialized medicine, only the US do not - much poorer than Canada, yet, the care was good but the floors real dirty. I asked why and they told me because floors are not important, we put money where it is (ex: eye department very clean, EEG department dirty - you can't get any infectitious - please help with this word, i do not know how to write it - disease with EEG).

I have been in private hospital in Turkey, the fees are similar to those in Costa Rica it seems, and I have been to private hospital in USA, the fees are much worse (700$ for a simple ear infection, no hospitalization, no anything, but just 2 hours of waiting lol)

Despite everything, socialized medicine still beats the awfully expensive medicine and denial of service because of insurance clauses encountered in the USA. Socialized medicine somewhat helps keep the cost lower overall and in developed countries, the service pretty much as good. In my opinion. Albeit, it is socialized, so we could say it is in favor of globalisation, but where is the difference with private and in the owners pockets direction???


1Many, truly sorry for your daughter. Hope she will get better in the morning. Love to her and you.

[Dennis Leahy]

I have been AWOL from this thread... mostly because I just am so freakin' busy, and have not had time to read and even get close to catching up. So sorry to hear about little Em, One. It is awful to have a sick child. Speedy recovery!

Yukondiva's tale of the Costa Rica not-so-marvelous hospital's ER could be expanded into a short story - by Edgar Allen Poe. That is, if she would want to try and remember all the details and set the stage further. Unbelievable. I am of the opinion (delusion?) that socialized medicine could be awesome - IF run by the right people. That nightmare in the ER sounds like chronic understaffing and that it had already destroyed the compassion of the staff to be that overwhelmed.

Reilly, I'm hoping your new baby and your wife are doing great - and that you are all getting some sleep!

I know this is trite and trivial, but I'll add a couple of videos: one for a couple of giggles, and one that is just one of those blends of art and science.

Les chats ninjas

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=NWhU4toTBgA

-and-
Pendulum Waves

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yVkdfJ9PkRQ

Dennis

[Carmody]

I just recovered from eating half a bag of dark chocolate covered almonds. They were good going down. Yum!

But, when I woke up the next day..migraines. So bad I nearly lost eyesight in my right eye at the peak of it. Which was a full day. Took over 48hrs to finally go away.

Ouch. No more almonds, I guess.

[araucaria]

Posted by Carmody (here)
I just recovered from eating half a bag of dark chocolate covered almonds. They were good going down. Yum!

But, when I woke up the next day..migraines. So bad I nearly lost eyesight in my right eye at the peak of it. Which was a full day. Took over 48hrs to finally go away.

Ouch. No more almonds, I guess.

You have my sympathy Carmody, almonds work this way on me too now, and I guess the dark chocolate didn’t help either.

Talking of allergies, I had a peek in A Maurice Chatelain book I bought over 6 months ago – put it in a polythene bag: not ideal but I got about ten minutes worth. He takes his Niniveh constant (70*seven times 60 seconds) in days, a multiple of 2268, which he says is a nuclear atomic number, and applies it to all the pyramids. It turns out they all have geodetic features that incorporate this number, particular in relation to volume. In other words their volumes are all different harmonic fractions of the Earth’s volume. I also saw something interesting about the indents on the sides of the Great Pyramid pointing to what would be a useful geostationary orbit from a Martian perspective.

It makes sense that such a powerful number should produce so many effects as he describes. What I like best about Chatelain’s work is how he relates the myriad weights and measures used around the world to local latitudes, the ultimate proof that ancient civilizations knew as much as we do in these areas.

1inMany, I guess if the whole solar system, and no doubt galaxy, is running exactly on time, you and your lovely family will get back home exactly on time too – may it be soonest.

[Swan]

Posted by 1inMany (here)
Holy sh1t yukondiva! I'm feeling terribly thankful for this small town hospital now.

Yes, and thnks sleepy too, the have seen her pancreas. That scan with contrast allowed them to look at everything in there. I was asking Mike about it, he was in the room with her watching the whole time. Saw ovaries with no cysts, saw all the organs, saw that she has two kidneys. They were not specifically looking, but I have some confidence that they would have looked for abnormalities in general.

I will ask about it specifically if she is not bettter in the morning, and I so not think it is weird, sleepy.


Thank you all for sharing yourselves in this Village.

Hi 1inMany,

Glad things seem to be better.

My son had a really bad stomach bug 1,5 years ago. Unfortunately I didn`t take as much care as I should have with his diet when the infection was over. Apparently the diet should be pretty restricted for several months after: No dairy, and cooked food, rather than fried.

Keeping Em in my heart!

[Samsara]

I'm hoping that Em feels better this morning and released from the hospital, and that Astrid is back to her normal self.

Love to All.

[ulli]

Astrid is better, and Modwiz now has a blog http://modwiz125.wordpress.com/

[donk]

Reilly, I'm hoping your new baby and your wife are doing great - and that you are all getting some sleep!

Dang, missed that...Congratulations and best wishes!!


I echo Samsara's sentiments as well.

[ulli]

This is really sweet
http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/...m-the-bat.html

[Flash]

Posted by donk (here)

Reilly, I'm hoping your new baby and your wife are doing great - and that you are all getting some sleep!

Dang, missed that...Congratulations and best wishes!!


I echo Samsara's sentiments as well.

Dang missed that too.

Reilly, that the river of love developing from your heart to your baby's heart continues lifelong, this is the most wonderful soul experience one can have, giving life and taking care of it, in all its aspects.

[yukondiva]

Posted by Flash (here)
We have socialised medecine in Canada and I have seen some horror, by never to that level yukondiva. Treatments are still quite good here. Aren't you Canadian anyhow in origins? So you know.

It seem the doctors are overworked in Costa Rica. For them to scream like that, they must be.

The Drs are overworked and wayyyy underpaid in Costarica. I live in Alaska. I have never been denied care due to lack of insurance, but I have been in debt due to the high cost of care there. I know some places socialized medicine works like in Europe for instance.

Yes Dennis I could write a story about my experience, I left out really bad parts for those of delicate constitution. I do have to say a couple of positive things came out of my visit to that hospital. One was even though I was really sick, I felt grateful that I was not terribly injured like alot of people I saw that day, and I met an increadible group of healers and Drs that helped my recovery along at an accelerated pace.

[PurpleLama]

Yes, the latest addition arrived on March 18th, on Edgar Cayce's birthday, and this is another Ed, Edmond. He and lotusblossom and the two older children are all doing very well. One newborn, one potty training, one in college.

I have just completed garden bed #7, I think. Have I ever mentioned how difficult it is converting lawn into garden space by hand? Anyhow, many thousands of plants are healthy and happy as are the kitties and family.

I admit, I've taken Mod's dismissal from our presence harder than the ones previous. Perhaps I'll revive my interest in Av one day, but it's taking longer this time, we shall see. I still check in here a few times a day, but I haven't much to say.

Love to the Village.

[Ernie Nemeth]

I miss Mod too. And many others...

Feeling like a rebel today - more than usual.
One of my favs.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=BdZT2FQJnpg