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    Carmody, i was certain that i was the only one who sat around tearing up as i watched clips of these great historical epics

    i'm not an overly emotional person but the ending of 'The Last of the Mohicans' gets me every time. The father kicking ass in vain to get to his son, who is being slain by 'Magua'...whew. His 'white son' having his back, allowing him to avenge his son's death on the mountaintop unimpeded. Then the girl leaping to her death over the cliff...man, i well up a little every time i see it. never gets old.
    But now..for me.. I am now dry and empty for a bit.

    After about 140 years of not letting that go, it is finally going. I am finally burned out on romanticism. I'm very sad to let it go, it's been a very close friend, for a very long time. But gone, it has. I'm happy that others can get something out of those films..and up to about two weeks ago, I was right there, being the same, for the past 47 years. About two weeks ago, or less...it started ...and it finally sunk in, all the way.
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    140 years is a long time. romanticism can be a cozy crutch, but realism has infinite patience and has no problem waiting it out. i'm beginning to discover this as well.
    "that's the problem with drinking, I thought, as I poured myself a drink. if something bad happens you drink in an attempt to forget; if something good happens you drink in order to celebrate; and if nothing happens you drink to make something happen." - Charles Bukowski

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    And I was just listening to this, and came here...to post it:



    And if one hears what newton spoke of in his books....here, in this place.... we are moving into thought form soul groups. Convergence.
    Really nice track I'd not heard the original before thanks.

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    Carmody, i was certain that i was the only one who sat around tearing up as i watched clips of these great historical epics

    i'm not an overly emotional person but the ending of 'The Last of the Mohicans' gets me every time. The father kicking ass in vain to get to his son, who is being slain by 'Magua'...whew. His 'white son' having his back, allowing him to avenge his son's death on the mountaintop unimpeded. Then the girl leaping to her death over the cliff...man, i well up a little every time i see it. never gets old.
    But now..for me.. I am now dry and empty for a bit.

    After about 140 years of not letting that go, it is finally going. I am finally burned out on romanticism. I'm very sad to let it go, it's been a very close friend, for a very long time. But gone, it has. I'm happy that others can get something out of those films..and up to about two weeks ago, I was right there, being the same, for the past 47 years. About two weeks ago, or less...it started ...and it finally sunk in, all the way.
    What has replaced the space that romanticism used to fill? I have considered this concept recently.

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    Carmody, i was certain that i was the only one who sat around tearing up as i watched clips of these great historical epics

    i'm not an overly emotional person but the ending of 'The Last of the Mohicans' gets me every time. The father kicking ass in vain to get to his son, who is being slain by 'Magua'...whew. His 'white son' having his back, allowing him to avenge his son's death on the mountaintop unimpeded. Then the girl leaping to her death over the cliff...man, i well up a little every time i see it. never gets old.
    But now..for me.. I am now dry and empty for a bit.

    After about 140 years of not letting that go, it is finally going. I am finally burned out on romanticism. I'm very sad to let it go, it's been a very close friend, for a very long time. But gone, it has. I'm happy that others can get something out of those films..and up to about two weeks ago, I was right there, being the same, for the past 47 years. About two weeks ago, or less...it started ...and it finally sunk in, all the way.
    What has replaced the space that romanticism used to fill? I have considered this concept recently.
    idealistic compassion.

    probably not as bad.

    We shall see.
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    Carmody, i was certain that i was the only one who sat around tearing up as i watched clips of these great historical epics

    i'm not an overly emotional person but the ending of 'The Last of the Mohicans' gets me every time. The father kicking ass in vain to get to his son, who is being slain by 'Magua'...whew. His 'white son' having his back, allowing him to avenge his son's death on the mountaintop unimpeded. Then the girl leaping to her death over the cliff...man, i well up a little every time i see it. never gets old.
    But now..for me.. I am now dry and empty for a bit.

    After about 140 years of not letting that go, it is finally going. I am finally burned out on romanticism. I'm very sad to let it go, it's been a very close friend, for a very long time. But gone, it has. I'm happy that others can get something out of those films..and up to about two weeks ago, I was right there, being the same, for the past 47 years. About two weeks ago, or less...it started ...and it finally sunk in, all the way.
    What has replaced the space that romanticism used to fill? I have considered this concept recently.
    idealistic compassion.

    probably not as bad.

    We shall see.
    I was wondering what the essence of an evolved romanticism would be.

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    Carmody, i was certain that i was the only one who sat around tearing up as i watched clips of these great historical epics

    i'm not an overly emotional person but the ending of 'The Last of the Mohicans' gets me every time. The father kicking ass in vain to get to his son, who is being slain by 'Magua'...whew. His 'white son' having his back, allowing him to avenge his son's death on the mountaintop unimpeded. Then the girl leaping to her death over the cliff...man, i well up a little every time i see it. never gets old.
    But now..for me.. I am now dry and empty for a bit.

    After about 140 years of not letting that go, it is finally going. I am finally burned out on romanticism. I'm very sad to let it go, it's been a very close friend, for a very long time. But gone, it has. I'm happy that others can get something out of those films..and up to about two weeks ago, I was right there, being the same, for the past 47 years. About two weeks ago, or less...it started ...and it finally sunk in, all the way.
    What has replaced the space that romanticism used to fill? I have considered this concept recently.
    idealistic compassion.

    probably not as bad.

    We shall see.
    I still allow my self a little romanticism. I shower in it, enjoy it, and then dry off feeling emotionally refreshed. You can't realistically live in a shower. The shower and the, ahem, 'real' world are realms I do not mix up. The metaphor as separate a behavior as the actual thing.

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    good question Rose.

    i don't think i'll ever release all my romanticism - i'll always keep the flame burning just a little. but i no longer sit around with friends drinking beers, talking up a fictional bar we all know we'll never open but nevertheless still continue to plan for. i don't pay $50 for ufc/boxing fights when i know who the winner will be, no matter how much i like a certain fighter. i no longer expect something spontaneous and fortunate to happen to me just because my ego tells me i'm "special" due to my awareness of various goings-on in this illusory world we live in.

    probably not the profound examples you were seeking but the seemingly small things do add up. it isn't a complete release and subsequent void, but more of a reconfiguring of the ratio of realism to romanticism.
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    Carmody, i was certain that i was the only one who sat around tearing up as i watched clips of these great historical epics

    i'm not an overly emotional person but the ending of 'The Last of the Mohicans' gets me every time. The father kicking ass in vain to get to his son, who is being slain by 'Magua'...whew. His 'white son' having his back, allowing him to avenge his son's death on the mountaintop unimpeded. Then the girl leaping to her death over the cliff...man, i well up a little every time i see it. never gets old.
    But now..for me.. I am now dry and empty for a bit.

    After about 140 years of not letting that go, it is finally going. I am finally burned out on romanticism. I'm very sad to let it go, it's been a very close friend, for a very long time. But gone, it has. I'm happy that others can get something out of those films..and up to about two weeks ago, I was right there, being the same, for the past 47 years. About two weeks ago, or less...it started ...and it finally sunk in, all the way.
    What has replaced the space that romanticism used to fill? I have considered this concept recently.
    idealistic compassion.

    probably not as bad.

    We shall see.
    I still allow my self a little romanticism. I shower in it, enjoy it, and then dry off feeling emotionally refreshed. You can't realistically live in a shower. The shower and the, ahem, 'real' world are realms I do not mix up. The metaphor as separate a behavior as the actual thing.
    I understand, perhaps, the wisdom of limitation of romanticism.
    But, the duality of the approach you describe makes it seem a bit of a game.

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    Carmody, i was certain that i was the only one who sat around tearing up as i watched clips of these great historical epics

    i'm not an overly emotional person but the ending of 'The Last of the Mohicans' gets me every time. The father kicking ass in vain to get to his son, who is being slain by 'Magua'...whew. His 'white son' having his back, allowing him to avenge his son's death on the mountaintop unimpeded. Then the girl leaping to her death over the cliff...man, i well up a little every time i see it. never gets old.
    But now..for me.. I am now dry and empty for a bit.

    After about 140 years of not letting that go, it is finally going. I am finally burned out on romanticism. I'm very sad to let it go, it's been a very close friend, for a very long time. But gone, it has. I'm happy that others can get something out of those films..and up to about two weeks ago, I was right there, being the same, for the past 47 years. About two weeks ago, or less...it started ...and it finally sunk in, all the way.
    What has replaced the space that romanticism used to fill? I have considered this concept recently.
    idealistic compassion.

    probably not as bad.

    We shall see.
    I still allow my self a little romanticism. I shower in it, enjoy it, and then dry off feeling emotionally refreshed. You can't realistically live in a shower. The shower and the, ahem, 'real' world are realms I do not mix up. The metaphor as separate a behavior as the actual thing.
    I understand the wisdom of limitation of romanticism. But, the duality of the approach you describe makes it seem a bit of a game.
    I play a lot of games with myself. It is the full knowledge of it as a game that makes it work while having fun. I highly recommend having fun. Chases the blues away.

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    Carmody, i was certain that i was the only one who sat around tearing up as i watched clips of these great historical epics

    i'm not an overly emotional person but the ending of 'The Last of the Mohicans' gets me every time. The father kicking ass in vain to get to his son, who is being slain by 'Magua'...whew. His 'white son' having his back, allowing him to avenge his son's death on the mountaintop unimpeded. Then the girl leaping to her death over the cliff...man, i well up a little every time i see it. never gets old.
    But now..for me.. I am now dry and empty for a bit.

    After about 140 years of not letting that go, it is finally going. I am finally burned out on romanticism. I'm very sad to let it go, it's been a very close friend, for a very long time. But gone, it has. I'm happy that others can get something out of those films..and up to about two weeks ago, I was right there, being the same, for the past 47 years. About two weeks ago, or less...it started ...and it finally sunk in, all the way.
    What has replaced the space that romanticism used to fill? I have considered this concept recently.
    idealistic compassion.

    probably not as bad.

    We shall see.
    I still allow my self a little romanticism. I shower in it, enjoy it, and then dry off feeling emotionally refreshed. You can't realistically live in a shower. The shower and the, ahem, 'real' world are realms I do not mix up. The metaphor as separate a behavior as the actual thing.
    it is also tied to an age hormonal time of life thing. When a guy's body gets older the testosterone drops and the hormone goggles throttle back a bit. It happens to most any guy at some time after certain ages are reached, depending on life experience and cognition.

    I have apparently had a serious problem in letting that one go and the past two lives (this one and the last) have addressed this issue. This life took the lessons of the last with regard to not repeating myself (beaten slave who died not yielding but simply..bitter and distressed) and not allowing my self to be a slave...and then added in a brutal combination of astrological chart, childhood, genetics, and life path. And I get to help some people along the way, while I'm caning myself into sensibility. Ug... waste not, want not. The universe is nothing if not efficient.
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    it is also tied to an age hormonal time of life thing. When a guy's body gets older the testosterone drops and the hormone goggles throttle back a bit. It happens to most any guy at some time after certain ages are reached, depending on life experience and cognition.

    I have apparently had a serious problem in letting that one go and the past two lives (this one and the last) have addressed this issue. This life took the lessons of the last with regard to not repeating myself (beaten slave who died not yielding but simply..bitter and distressed) and not allowing my self to be a slave...and then added in a brutal combination of astrological chart, childhood, genetics, and life path. And I get to help some people along the way, while I'm caning myself into sensibility. Ug... waste not, want not. The universe is nothing if not efficient.
    I hear you, brother. At 58 I am really enjoying winning arguments with my dick. Boy, does that feel good.

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    can we really find any space between idealism and romanticism, Carmody?

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    "winning arguments with my dick!" priceless euphemism!

    sounds like you might have a profitable slogan, Modwiz. i'm seeing t-shirts and dollar signs my friend...
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    it is also tied to an age hormonal time of life thing. When a guy's body gets older the testosterone drops and the hormone goggles throttle back a bit. It happens to most any guy at some time after certain ages are reached, depending on life experience and cognition.

    I have apparently had a serious problem in letting that one go and the past two lives (this one and the last) have addressed this issue. This life took the lessons of the last with regard to not repeating myself (beaten slave who died not yielding but simply..bitter and distressed) and not allowing my self to be a slave...and then added in a brutal combination of astrological chart, childhood, genetics, and life path. And I get to help some people along the way, while I'm caning myself into sensibility. Ug... waste not, want not. The universe is nothing if not efficient.
    I hear you, brother. At 58 I am really enjoying winning arguments with my dick. Boy, does that feel good.
    thanks for the pee myself laugh. I needed that.

    it is also that my astrological chart has enough passion for any three people tied up in there. So the wind up, without release... has been insane. Like trying to drive a 700hp car, with a basement brick tied to the gas pedal, and a gas tank that has no end.

    my astro twin ( a well known celebrity-born hours apart), with merely a similar alignment, not exactly the same...that person looks very deadpan. He's actually hanging on for dear life.
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    can we really find any space between idealism and romanticism, Carmody?

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    "winning arguments with my dick!" priceless euphemism!

    sounds like you might have a profitable slogan, Modwiz. i'm seeing t-shirts and dollar signs my friend...
    There you go, being romantic again. We can sell them at the bar you and your friends will never open.

    Good to have you in the Village, Chinaski.

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    it is also tied to an age hormonal time of life thing. When a guy's body gets older the testosterone drops and the hormone goggles throttle back a bit. It happens to most any guy at some time after certain ages are reached, depending on life experience and cognition.

    I have apparently had a serious problem in letting that one go and the past two lives (this one and the last) have addressed this issue. This life took the lessons of the last with regard to not repeating myself (beaten slave who died not yielding but simply..bitter and distressed) and not allowing my self to be a slave...and then added in a brutal combination of astrological chart, childhood, genetics, and life path. And I get to help some people along the way, while I'm caning myself into sensibility. Ug... waste not, want not. The universe is nothing if not efficient.
    I hear you, brother. At 58 I am really enjoying winning arguments with my dick. Boy, does that feel good.
    thanks for the pee myself laugh. I needed that.

    it is also that my astrological chart has enough passion for any three people tied up in there. So the wind up, without release... has been insane. Like trying to drive a 700hp car, with a basement brick tied to the gas pedal, and a gas tank that has no end.
    No wonder your kundalini kills people. Yikes!

    He's gonna blow! Duck!

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    can we really find any space between idealism and romanticism, Carmody?

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    "winning arguments with my dick!" priceless euphemism!

    sounds like you might have a profitable slogan, Modwiz. i'm seeing t-shirts and dollar signs my friend...
    There you go, being romantic again. We can sell them at the bar you and your friends will never open.

    Good to have you in the Village, Chinaski.

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    it is also tied to an age hormonal time of life thing. When a guy's body gets older the testosterone drops and the hormone goggles throttle back a bit. It happens to most any guy at some time after certain ages are reached, depending on life experience and cognition.

    I have apparently had a serious problem in letting that one go and the past two lives (this one and the last) have addressed this issue. This life took the lessons of the last with regard to not repeating myself (beaten slave who died not yielding but simply..bitter and distressed) and not allowing my self to be a slave...and then added in a brutal combination of astrological chart, childhood, genetics, and life path. And I get to help some people along the way, while I'm caning myself into sensibility. Ug... waste not, want not. The universe is nothing if not efficient.
    I hear you, brother. At 58 I am really enjoying winning arguments with my dick. Boy, does that feel good.
    thanks for the pee myself laugh. I needed that.

    it is also that my astrological chart has enough passion for any three people tied up in there. So the wind up, without release... has been insane. Like trying to drive a 700hp car, with a basement brick tied to the gas pedal, and a gas tank that has no end.
    No wonder your kundalini kills people. Yikes!
    Yes, now..imagine that tied to my grandfather's intensity, that I spoke of earlier. which I only spoke of the tip of that iceberg of, er, explosive passion.

    when I see injustice in the world, I have to go and sit the corner... and just try my best to chill. chill. chill. be calm. ohmmmmmm. etc.

    I've done a good job so far, with control, never been in a single fight. But, as they say, please don't get me started. I'm not afraid of fighting. I'm afraid of that passion and temper. Lord knows that this modern world tries pretty hard, with this level of injustice.
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    Still typing on a phone -waiting on the computer almost ready

    Sometimes i get mixed up and want to call moby Moab

    If I am feeling pain, love, anger....etc it means I'm still breathing here and now and experiencing humanbeing
    I do have trouble walking through the dark layers appreciate your help

    I remember a few of my past lives -here and a few other places where the consciousness is different and lighter geesh the layers that are coming through amazing

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    So I used that passion and kundalini... shifted to compassion, to save souls. My compromise, and release.
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    So I used that passion and kundalini... shifted to compassion, to save souls. My compromise, and release.
    What a powerful and generous use of that energy Carmody. I need a ladder to pile some more respect on the pile I already have for you. I say that from my heart and not to praise you. Ego management is not easy. Acknowledgement of the good that is done helps others be inspired. I am one of those so inspired.
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    You guys LOL......

    Nora we are all related

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