Here and Now...What's Happening?

[Chinaski]

Posted by Carmody (here)
Mine was supposed to be a decalogy..... I wrote the synopsis when I was 18.

a what-o-logy?

is that when you write sequel after sequel until you reach 10 or 12 books or something???

you frequently leave me feeling so ignorant, Carmody

[Chinaski]

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Posted by onawah (here)
Thanks Chinaski.
I guess I'll have to start that writer's thread now, and walk my talk.
Hope to see you there.

i think it's a great idea!

So do I. By the time every book that was started in the last few months rolls off the printing press there will be no one left who is able to read a book from cover to cover.
Even long posts will pose a challenge.
2012 will be the year where all communication will become reduced to slogans. After that, telepathy.

so sad though, don't ya think?

i love holding a book in my hands, smelling the pages and the ink, adjusting to the rhythyms of the author and getting into the story.

there is no denying that it is the text era; and i fear the extinction of the book is near, but i'm gonna go ahead and write the damn thing anyway...

[Rahkyt]

Posted by ViralSpiral (here)
Seriously, I'll buy it!

Heheh. You get a special donate email.

Posted by Chinaski (here)
@Rahkyt, that's 70 pgs more than me like i said, i've scrapped several drafts - 1 of them was 90+pgs long. but it just wasn't right. i'm struggling to find my style. i'm not even sure if i want to write it as fiction or nonfiction, though it's really all about me. i was thinking something post-moderny, something allegorical, kinda Vonnegutish. not sure. i go from wanting to write very simply and direct a la Hemingway, to a little more complex and involved, like a David Foster Wallace. still trying to find my voice here.

I hear you. A difficult proposition, have you ever published before? Do you have non-fiction or fiction that you've written previously or is this your first work, if I may ask?

Posted by Chinaski (here)
i'm looking forward to yours. waddya writin about?

The world as it currently stands, some of the issues we are facing as a world, from my unique perspective as a perpetual outsider. I'm hoping some folks will relate. It has been difficult to pinpoint my "spiritual tribe", as it were, but maybe this effort will help me, at least, to sort of codify exactly where I am in relation to it all and hopefully clarify some stuff for others who are confused as well. I figure it's time, it's been a decade since I published a full book last.

[modwiz]

Posted by Chinaski (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
Mine was supposed to be a decalogy..... I wrote the synopsis when I was 18.

a what-o-logy?

is that when you write sequel after sequel until you reach 10 or 12 books or something???

you frequently leave me feeling so ignorant, Carmody

Since a trilogy is three books, my guess is a decalogy is 10. This is different than a defecalogy which is just writing a lot of crap.

[Chinaski]

Posted by Rahkyt (here)

Posted by ViralSpiral (here)
Seriously, I'll buy it!

Heheh. You get a special donate email.

Posted by Chinaski (here)
@Rahkyt, that's 70 pgs more than me like i said, i've scrapped several drafts - 1 of them was 90+pgs long. but it just wasn't right. i'm struggling to find my style. i'm not even sure if i want to write it as fiction or nonfiction, though it's really all about me. i was thinking something post-moderny, something allegorical, kinda Vonnegutish. not sure. i go from wanting to write very simply and direct a la Hemingway, to a little more complex and involved, like a David Foster Wallace. still trying to find my voice here.

I hear you. A difficult proposition, have you ever published before? Do you have non-fiction or fiction that you've written previously or is this your first work, if I may ask?

Posted by Chinaski (here)
i'm looking forward to yours. waddya writin about?

The world as it currently stands, some of the issues we are facing as a world, from my unique perspective as a perpetual outsider. I'm hoping some folks will relate. It has been difficult to pinpoint my "spiritual tribe", as it were, but maybe this effort will help me, at least, to sort of codify exactly where I am in relation to it all and hopefully clarify some stuff for others who are confused as well. I figure it's time, it's been a decade since I published a full book last.

i've written some autobiographical short stories, never submitted for publication. just handed out to family and friends. typical writer insecurity.

it's not too bad, better than most of the defacology i read at bookstores, libraries etc...but still needs work.

p.s. Modwiz, thanks for the lovely addition to my vocabulary - defacology - i'll be using it frequently, with your kind permission, never forgetting to give you the credit, of course

[Calz]

After a near non-existent winter ... getting over a foot of snow dumped on us today (here and now).

No work or school today so it's all good

Here is a shot of me with my boys at my "outdoor power spot" (for you shamanic types) in a nearby nature preserve. Not too much shows in this one but it is a magnificent spot with a large tree surrounded by mid-sized pines. In the summertime it is just like a tent in that you can sit next to the large tree and the rest of the world is nearly invisible even though only about a city block from some housing.

I love it ... can't wait for warmer weather.

Yeah ... that's right ... I am a "tree hugger"

[modwiz]

Posted by Chinaski (here)

Posted by Rahkyt (here)

Posted by ViralSpiral (here)
Seriously, I'll buy it!

Heheh. You get a special donate email.

Posted by Chinaski (here)
@Rahkyt, that's 70 pgs more than me like i said, i've scrapped several drafts - 1 of them was 90+pgs long. but it just wasn't right. i'm struggling to find my style. i'm not even sure if i want to write it as fiction or nonfiction, though it's really all about me. i was thinking something post-moderny, something allegorical, kinda Vonnegutish. not sure. i go from wanting to write very simply and direct a la Hemingway, to a little more complex and involved, like a David Foster Wallace. still trying to find my voice here.

I hear you. A difficult proposition, have you ever published before? Do you have non-fiction or fiction that you've written previously or is this your first work, if I may ask?

Posted by Chinaski (here)
i'm looking forward to yours. waddya writin about?

The world as it currently stands, some of the issues we are facing as a world, from my unique perspective as a perpetual outsider. I'm hoping some folks will relate. It has been difficult to pinpoint my "spiritual tribe", as it were, but maybe this effort will help me, at least, to sort of codify exactly where I am in relation to it all and hopefully clarify some stuff for others who are confused as well. I figure it's time, it's been a decade since I published a full book last.

i've written some autobiographical short stories, never submitted for publication. just handed out to family and friends. typical writer insecurity.

it's not too bad, better than most of the defacology i read at bookstores, libraries etc...but still needs work.

p.s. Modwiz, thanks for the lovely addition to my vocabulary - defacology - i'll be using it frequently, with your kind permission, never forgetting to give you the credit, of course

You can use the term, just spell it right! It's defecalogy. E, after the F, and A, after the C.

[Rahkyt]

Posted by Chinaski (here)
i've written some autobiographical short stories, never submitted for publication. just handed out to family and friends. typical writer insecurity.

I see. Well your style of writing here in the forum is quite accessible. If you write your prose like this then I'd say your voice was clear, concise and to the point. As they used to drill into us in grad school, you have to publish, Publish, PUBLISH! LOL

Get your stuff out there online, journals, even a blog. Get some "objective" feedback. Writer's groups are good also to get confidence up and also to get some good feedback on your work. I was in one for about 4 years when I was writing my first novel back in the late 90s. Gotta be careful though if you go that route, smaller groups are better than large ones. The big ones have "personalities" who will eat a body alive and spit out the bones after cracking them with their teeth for the marrow.

[Calz]

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by Chinaski (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
Mine was supposed to be a decalogy..... I wrote the synopsis when I was 18.

a what-o-logy?

is that when you write sequel after sequel until you reach 10 or 12 books or something???

you frequently leave me feeling so ignorant, Carmody

Since a trilogy is three books, my guess is a decalogy is 10. This is different than a defecalogy which is just writing a lot of crap.

Huh ... I always figured it was a once a decade inspiration to pick back up on a book started in college.

Lasts about one day and then is forgotten about thanks to the flashy thingie.

[Calz]

Posted by ViralSpiral (here)

Posted by Rahkyt (here)
happy writing chinaski! i'm about 70 pages into mine and keep getting distracted by new gurus and trips to neptune. i need to focus.

Good luck to you too Rahkyt! When complete, please don't forget the donate button


Seriously, I'll buy it!

How much are donate buttons going for these days???

Was thinking about putting one on my profile page to raise a little jing

[eaglespirit]

ALL will be provided...every new day it gets stronger and stronger and more musically mastered in the ether...

You Here and Nowers and Guests are Givers without hesitation in many ways, shapes and forms...

It is about to spill over onto and into ALL of Humanity...

[Lisab]

Lovely photo of you and the fam in the snow Calz, thanks for sharing. I'm a tree hugger too...and proud!

[Chinaski]

Posted by Rahkyt (here)

Posted by Chinaski (here)
i've written some autobiographical short stories, never submitted for publication. just handed out to family and friends. typical writer insecurity.

I see. Well your style of writing here in the forum is quite accessible. If you write your prose like this then I'd say your voice was clear, concise and to the point. As they used to drill into us in grad school, you have to publish, Publish, PUBLISH! LOL

Get your stuff out there online, journals, even a blog. Get some "objective" feedback. Writer's groups are good also to get confidence up and also to get some good feedback on your work. I was in one for about 4 years when I was writing my first novel back in the late 90s. Gotta be careful though if you go that route, smaller groups are better than large ones. The big ones have "personalities" who will eat a body alive and spit out the bones after cracking them with their teeth for the marrow.

yeah, i don't really try to sound too literary here on the forum. i don't want to bore or lose readers - just communicate.

it's funny, i was just thinking of starting a blog when i read your post; i think that's the way to go. get some readers, feedback, etc...

is your first novel accessible via the net? if not, is there any other way to get a copy. would love to check it out.

[onawah]

I'm not writing my life story with the view to publish, but just to share with friends, and for my own healing process.
Don Juan Matus said that recapitulation of one's life story is a good practice.
I have found that when I write down what I remember about my past and look at it with fresh eyes, I often get a very different perspective.
When I revise what I think about my past, I am revising what I think about myself.
And I get new insights into people, events and relationships I have known.

[Chinaski]

Posted by onawah (here)
I'm not writing my life story with the view to publish, but just to share with friends, and for my own healing process.
Don Juan Matus said that recapitulation of one's life story is a good practice.
I have found that when I write down what I remember about my past and look at it with fresh eyes, I often get a very different perspective.
When I revise what I think about my past, I am revising what I think about myself.
And I get new insights into people, events and relationships I have known.

i'm writing for many of the same reasons Onawah, but in my heart of hearts i'd like to write the next 'Slaughterhouse 5' or 'Under The Volcano'. i know this is pure ego, but don't i at least get points for being an honest egomaniac?

[ViralSpiral]

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Love the pic!!

[Carmody]

Posted by onawah (here)
I'm not writing my life story with the view to publish, but just to share with friends, and for my own healing process.
Don Juan Matus said that recapitulation of one's life story is a good practice.
I have found that when I write down what I remember about my past and look at it with fresh eyes, I often get a very different perspective.
When I revise what I think about my past, I am revising what I think about myself.
And I get new insights into people, events and relationships I have known.

There is also that thing a good friend showed me, many years back. He said that it can't truly be real or even checked to see if it is real until it is spit out onto the floor between at least two people. Once it is out , between you, on the floor..then you can take sticks and poke at it, to inspect it for..whatever. Until then, it is just a thing in one's head. This is similar to the idea of the teacher being taught by the act of teaching.

[onawah]

New thread started in the Express Yourself forum has been birthed here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...025#post420025

[onawah]

One of the things I love about writing my life story and sharing it with friends is their amazement when they realize what they thought they knew about me was untrue, or my amazement when I realize how well they knew me after all.
We all have so many wonderful stories to share.
When I read a good book, it's like spending time with the very best part of that author's innermost being, drinking in the best that that person has distilled from their life experience.
Some fictional characters seem more real to me than actual people, and I feel as enriched by them as I do by real friends.
I don't think that books are going to become obsolete for a long time, at least, not as long as there people who love to read as much as I do.
Though telepathy is pretty wonderful too.

Not to mention movies. Not to change the subject, but I just watched Pride and Prejudice with Matthew Macfayden and Keira Knightly yet again, and was still captured in that world.
The great care that went into that film, with all the different historical homes it was shot in, is very impressive.
For me, another kind of therapy sometimes is escaping into a time when life was not quite so complex.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXoa4Wn6umM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9acYQB2ohc

[ulli]

There was no dancing at the party. Nearly one hundred people and endless food and drink.
Like a large restaurant. I knew everyone there. Once I had stuffed myself I started missing the Villagers. Thank God for civilized homes with wireless routers.
Even though I didn't fire off any unforgettable posts at least I could do my little thank you ritual and LOLs at Modwiz' and Carmody's humor.
Back home now, and on the news are more reports of weird noises which disturbed people's slumber. Family members heard it, too, they were talking about it at the party today....must be the Turrialba volcano which is waking up.