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    Default Nasa Insider Revelations

    Wow, this is real spooky stuff.

    Something to test your discernment on






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    Default Re: Nasa Insider Revelations

    The first video was on a couple of recent threads.
    Not sure about the second one, but in that one, the person speaking states that in the early 1990s, a fleet of thousands of flying saucers flying over Mexico was driven back to wherever they issued from (presumably inner earth )by US, Canadian and other air force teams.
    That sounds like a very dubious statement to me. Is there any proof of such an event? There would surely have been lots of eyewitnesses!
    He also talks about the gov rethinking how gravity is created, and that sounds like it could be true, judging from recent revelations on that subject.
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    It would be good if the authenticity of this could be verified.


    Admiral Richard B. Byrd's Diary (Feb. Mar. 1947 )

    The exploration flight over the North Pole
    ( The Inner Earth My Secret Diary )


    I must write this diary in secrecy and obscurity. It con cerns my Arctic flight of the nineteenth day of February in the year of Nineteen and Forty Seven.

    There comes a time when the rationality of men must fade into insignificance and one must accept the inevitability of the Truth! I am not at liberty to disclose the following documenta tion at this writing ...perhaps it shall never see the light of public scrutiny, but I must do my duty and record here for all to read one day. In a world of greed and exploitation of certain of mankind can no longer suppress that which is truth.



    FLIGHT LOG: BASE CAMP ARCTIC, 2/19/1947
    0600 Hours- All preparations are complete for our flight north ward and we are airborne with full fuel tanks at 0610 Hours.

    0620 Hours- fuel mixture on starboard engine seems too rich, adjustment made and Pratt Whittneys are running smoothly.

    0730 Hours- Radio Check with base camp. All is well and radio reception is normal.

    0740 Hours- Note slight oil leak in starboard engine, oil pres sure indicator seems normal, however.

    0800 Hours- Slight turbulence noted from easterly direction at altitude of 2321 feet, correction to 1700 feet, no further turbu lence, but tail wind increases, slight adjustment in throttle controls, aircraft performing very well now.

    0815 Hours- Radio Check with base camp, situation normal.

    0830 Hours- Turbulence encountered again, increase altitude to 2900 feet, smooth flight conditions again.

    0910 Hours- Vast Ice and snow below, note coloration of yellowish nature, and disperse in a linear pattern. Altering course foe a better examination of this color pattern below, note reddish or purple color also. Circle this area two full turns and return to assigned compass heading. Position check made again to base camp, and relay information concerning colorations in the Ice and snow below.

    0910 Hours- Both Magnetic and Gyro compasses beginning to gyrate and wobble, we are unable to hold our heading by instrumentation. Take bearing with Sun compass, yet all seems well. The controls are seemingly slow to respond and have sluggish quality, but there is no indication of Icing!

    0915 Hours- In the distance is what appears to be mountains.

    0949 Hours- 29 minutes elapsed flight time from the first sight ing of the mountains, it is no illusion. They are mountains and consisting of a small range that I have never seen before!

    0955 Hours- Altitude change to 2950 feet, encountering strong turbulence again.

    1000 Hours- We are crossing over the small mountain range and still proceeding northward as best as can be ascertained. Beyond the mountain range is what appears to be a valley with a small river or stream running through the center portion. There should be no green valley below! Something is definitely wrong and abnormal here! We should be over Ice and Snow! To the portside are great forests growing on the mountain slopes. Our navigation Instruments are still spinning, the gyroscope is oscillating back and forth!

    1005 Hours- I alter altitude to 1400 feet and execute a sharp left turn to better examine the valley below. It is green with either moss or a type of tight knit grass. The Light here seems different. I cannot see the Sun anymore. We make another left turn and we spot what seems to be a large animal of some kind below us. It appears to be an elephant! NO!!! It looks more like a mammoth! This is incredible! Yet, there it is! Decrease altitude to 1000 feet and take binoculars to better examine the animal. It is confirmed - it is definitely a mammoth-like ani mal! Report this to base camp.

    1030 Hours- Encountering more rolling green hills now. The external temperature indicator reads 74 degrees Fahrenheit! Continuing on our heading now. Navigation instruments seem normal now. I am puzzled over their actions. Attempt to contact base camp. Radio is not functioning!

    1130 Hours- Countryside below is more level and normal (if I may use that word). Ahead we spot what seems to be a city!!!! This is impossible! Aircraft seems light and oddly buoyant. The controls refuse to respond!! My GOD!!! Off our port and star board wings are a strange type of aircraft. They are closing rapidly alongside! They are disc-shaped and have a radiant quality to them. They are close enough now to see the markings on them. It is a type of Swastika!!! This is fantastic. Where are we! What has happened. I tug at the controls again. They will not respond!!!! We are caught in an invisible vice grip of some type!

    1135 Hours- Our radio crackles and a voice comes through in English with what perhaps is a slight Nordic or Germanic accent! The message is: 'Welcome, Admiral, to our domain. We shall land you in exactly seven minutes! Relax, Admiral, you are in good hands.' I note the engines of our plane have stopped running! The aircraft is under some strange control and is now turning itself. The controls are useless.

    1140 Hours- Another radio message received. We begin the landing process now, and in moments the plane shudders slightly, and begins a descent as though caught in some great unseen elevator! The downward motion is negligible, and we touch down with only a slight jolt!

    1145 Hours- I am making a hasty last entry in the flight log. Several men are approaching on foot toward our aircraft. They are tall with blond hair. In the distance is a large shimmering city pulsating with rainbow hues of color. I do not know what is going to happen now, but I see no signs of weapons on those approaching. I hear now a voice ordering me by name to open the cargo door. I comply. END LOG


    From this point I write all the following events here from memory. It defies the imagination and would seem all but madness if it had not happened.

    The radioman and I are taken from the aircraft and we are re ceived in a most cordial manner. We were then boarded on a small platform-like conveyance with no wheels! It moves us toward the glowing city with great swiftness. As we approach, the city seems to be made of a crystal material. Soon we arrive at a large building that is a type I have never seen before. It appears to be right out of the design board of Frank Lloyd Wright, or perhaps more correctly, out of a Buck Rogers setting!! We are given some type of warm beverage which tasted like nothing I have ever savored before. It is delicious. After about ten minutes, two of our wondrous appearing hosts come to our quarters and announce that I am to accompany them. I have no choice but to comply. I leave my radioman behind and we walk a short dis tance and enter into what seems to be an elevator. We descend downward for some moments, the machine stops, and the door lifts silently upward! We then proceed down a long hallway that is lit by a rose-colored light that seems to be emanating from the very walls themselves! One of the beings motions for us to stop before a great door. Over the door is an inscription that I cannot read. The great door slides noiselessly open and I am beckoned to enter. One of my hosts speaks. 'Have no fear, Admiral, you are to have an audience with the Master...'

    I step inside and my eyes adjust to the beautiful coloration that seems to be filling the room completely. Then I begin to see my sur roundings. What greeted my eyes is the most beautiful sight of my entire existence. It is in fact too beautiful and wondrous to describe. It is exquisite and delicate. I do not think there exists a human term that can describe it in any detail with justice! My thoughts are interrupted in a cordial manner by a warm rich voice of melodious quality, 'I bid you welcome to our domain, Admiral.' I see a man with delicate features and with the etching of years upon his face. He is seated at a long table. He motions me to sit down in one of the chairs. After I am seated, he places his fingertips together and smiles. He speaks softly again, and conveys the following.

    'We have let you enter here because you are of noble character and well-known on the Surface World, Admiral.' Surface World, I half-gasp under my breath! 'Yes," the Master replies with a smile, 'you are in the domain of the Arianni, the Inner World of the Earth. We shall not long delay your mission, and you will be safely escorted back to the surface and for a distance beyond. But now, Admiral, I shall tell you why you have been summoned here. Our interest rightly begins just after your race exploded the first atomic bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan. It was at that alarm ing time we sent our flying machines, the "Flugelrads", to your surface world to investigate what your race had done. That is, of course, past history now, my dear Admiral, but I must continue on. You see, we have never interfered before in your race's wars, and barbarity, but now we must, for you have learned to tamper with a certain power that is not for man, namely, that of atomic energy. Our emissaries have already delivered messages to the powers of your world, and yet they do not heed. Now you have been chosen to be witness here that our world does exist. You see, our Culture and Science is many thousands of years beyond your race, Admiral.' I interrupted, 'But what does this have to do with me, Sir?'

    The Master's eyes seemed to penetrate deeply into my mind, and after studying me for a few moments he replied, 'Your race has now reached the point of no return, for there are those among you who would destroy your very world rather than relinquish their power as they know it...' I nodded, and the Master continued, 'In 1945 and afterward, we tried to contact your race, but our efforts were met with hostility, our Flugelrads were fired upon. Yes, even pursued with malice and animosity by your fighter planes. So, now, I say to you, my son, there is a great storm gathering in your world, a black fury that will not spend itself for many years. There will be no answer in your arms, there will be no safety in your science. It may rage on until every flower of your culture is trampled, and all human things are leveled in vast chaos. Your recent war was only a prelude of what is yet to come for your race. We here see it more clearly with each hour..do you say I am mistaken?'

    'No,' I answer, 'it happened once before, the dark ages came and they lasted for more than five hundred years.'

    'Yes, my son,' replied the Master, 'the dark ages that will come now for your race will cover the Earth like a pall, but I believe that some of your race will live through the storm, beyond that, I cannot say. We see at a great distance a new world stirring from the ruins of your race, seeking its lost and legendary treasures, and they will be here, my son, safe in our keeping. When that time arrives, we shall come forward again to help revive your culture and your race. Perhaps, by then, you will have learned the futility of war and its strife...and after that time, certain of your culture and science will be returned for your race to begin anew. You, my son, are to return to the Surface World with this message.....'

    With these closing words, our meeting seemed at an end. I stood for a moment as in a dream....but, yet, I knew this was reality, and for some strange reason I bowed slightly, either out of respect or humility, I do not know which.

    Suddenly, I was again aware that the two beautiful hosts who had brought me here were again at my side. 'This way, Admiral,' motioned one. I turned once more before leaving and looked back toward the Master. A gentle smile was etched on his delicate and ancient face. 'Farewell, my son,' he spoke, then he gestured with a lovely, slender hand a motion of peace and our meeting was truly ended.

    Quickly, we walked back through the great door of the Master's chamber and once again entered into the elevator. The door slid silently downward and we were at once going upward. One of my hosts spoke again, 'We must now make haste, Admiral, as the Master desires to delay you no longer on your scheduled timetable and you must return with his message to your race.'

    I said nothing. All of this was almost beyond belief, and once again my thoughts were interrupted as we stopped. I entered the room and was again with my radioman. He had an anxious expres sion on his face. As I approached, I said, 'It is all right, Howie, it is all right.' The two beings motioned us toward the awaiting conveyance, we boarded, and soon arrived back at the aircraft. The engines were idling and we boarded immediately. The whole atmosphere seemed charged now with a certain air of urgency. After the cargo door was closed the aircraft was imme diately lifted by that unseen force until we reached an altitude of 2700 feet. Two of the aircraft were alongside for some dis tance guiding us on our return way. I must state here, the airspeed indicator registered no reading, yet we were moving along at a very rapid rate.

    215 Hours- A radio message comes through. 'We are leaving you now, Admiral, your controls are free. Auf Wiedersehen!!!!' We watched for a moment as the flugelrads disappeared into the pale blue sky.

    The aircraft suddenly felt as though caught in a sharp downdraft for a moment. We quickly recovered her control. We do not speak for some time, each man has his thoughts....

    ENTRY IN FLIGHT LOG CONTINUES:

    220 Hours- We are again over vast areas of ice and snow, and approximately 27 minutes from base camp. We radio them, they respond. We report all conditions normal....normal. Base camp expresses relief at our re-established contact.

    300 Hours- We land smoothly at base camp. I have a mission.....

    END LOG ENTRIES.

    March 11, 1947. I have just attended a staff meeting at the Pentagon. I have stated fully my discovery and the message from the Master. All is duly recorded. The President has been ad vised. I am now detained for several hours (six hours, thirty- nine minutes, to be exact.) I am interviewed intently by Top Security Forces and a medical team. It was an ordeal!!!! I am placed under strict control via the national security provisions of this United States of America. I am ORDERED TO REMAIN SILENT IN REGARD TO ALL THAT I HAVE LEARNED, ON THE BEHALF OF HUMANITY1111 Incredible! I am reminded that I am a military man and I must obey orders.

    30/12/56: FINAL ENTRY:

    These last few years elapsed since 1947 have not been kind...I now make my final entry in this singular diary. In closing, I must state that I have faithfully kept this matter secret as directed all these years. It has been completely against my values of moral right. Now, I seem to sense the long night coming on and this secret will not die with me, but as all truth shall, it will triumph and so it shall.

    This can be the only hope for mankind. I have seen the truth and it has quickened my spirit and has set me free! I have done my duty toward the monstrous military industrial complex. Now, the long night begins to approach, but there shall be no end. Just as the long night of the Arctic ends, the brilliant sunshine of Truth shall come again....and those who are of darkness shall fall in it's Light..FOR I HAVE SEEN THAT LAND BEYOND THE POLE, THAT CENTER OF THE GREAT UNKNOWN.

    Admiral Richard E. Byrd
    United States Navy
    24 December 1956
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    Default Re: Nasa Insider Revelations

    The diary entries are very Lovecraftian, and a little hard to digest as truth, but very very interesting none the less!
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    Never fail to question what other men take on faith.

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    Lovecraftian ?

    Is this a new species ?
    “The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes.”

    Benjamin Disraeli - (British Prime Minister and Novelist. 1804-1881)

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    HP Lovecraft, one of the most influential weird fiction/horror writers of the 20th century and inspiration for more hollywood films than any other person.

    I can't tell whether you are being serious >.<
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    Default Black Project Insider shares knowledge about UFO's, Moon Bases and Hollow Earth

    I found these two videos to be very interesting. Make of them what you will, but without a doubt they are compelling.
    They are supposed to be from a guy who used to work for the government in underground bases etc. He made these videos and held onto them for two years before releasing them
    Apparently, the man was killed in a car accident 2 months afterwards.
    I encourage you to watch these, they are fascinating.
    Let me know what you think, thank you!

    VIDEO ONE



    VIDEO TWO

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    Very interesting stuff! That didn't sound like it was the end of it, were you able to dredge up any other videos?

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    Hi Morgaine,

    I watched both videos -yes very interesting....and if the guy is for real i certainly appreciate him giving out the information.


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    Big discussion of the "Objects on the Moon" is also here:

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...n--NASA-Photos

    And here is a transcript from two of the videos:

    TRANSCRIPT - LEAKED Insider Recording About NASA, UFOs, Aliens, Moon Bases,
    Apollo


    "The date is 29th June 2008, 6:32 pm.

    I'm creating this message to let the people of the world, or whoever happens to hear this, know the truth about "what is going on" with regards to the alien presence in our world, as well as interstellar space and within our own solar system.

    I myself am a "worker" in one of the underground bases located near Groom Lake [Area 51 & S4, Nevada]. I have done my work there for the past eight years and within the next coming months will be discharged.

    Now what I'm going to tell you, you may want to take with a grain of salt but I assure you everything that what I am about to say is "truth"... is fact. And whether you know it or believe it or not, everything that I will tell you, is common knowledge within the Black Ops community at the most highest and secretive levels.

    Now as I said, I've worked inside an underground base near Groom Lake for
    the past eight years and have done my work there as a researcher and analyst working within the room of the "ET Program" as we call it. (Or, as it's known in the Black Ops community as "G28").

    What we do here is research, analyse and investigate the Extra Terrestrial presence within our solar system and other dimensions. And what I'm going to tell you today is the "truth" about what is going on. I will try not to be too vague in my revelations. However, I do not want to say too much as I have already committed a felony in the eyes of our government just by speaking on the subject and I will be leaving soon after my discharge. And I have asked the owner of this video to which I am sending, not to publicise this video for at least two years after its recording to ensure my safety as well as theirs.

    Now, as I've said, and let me make this clear: The presence of alien beings and the technology does exist. It is as real as you or me and it's a whole lot more out there than even the most die-hard "believers" could possibly fathom.

    The "truth" is that we, and by "we" I mean this planet and the people of this planet, are in essence "blind" to what is really going on in the cosmos and interstellar space.

    What people call "aliens," we call "I.B.'s", or in laymen's terms, "Inter-dimensional Beings". What we found out, and have known about since the early 70's, is that, in simplest terms, other dimensions or "planes," as we call them, exist and lay on top of each other. Almost stacked, as if you had a blanket with another blanket stacked on top of it, and another blanket stacked on top of "it".

    To explain it so that you can understand, you can imagine the Earth in our "reality" as a thin blanket, and all these other "higher dimensions" are the blankets laying directly on top of ours. However, we can only "see" our own "blanket".

    Now the alien beings or the ships that we have seen in videos, and that many people have captured over the years, are in fact what we call "jumpers", in that they exist in their relative dimensions but have in fact, "jumped" into ours.

    Now we have discovered that most of the time, we are unable to see them, as they are at a wavelength indifferent to our own and our senses, eyes and ears cannot detect.

    From the information that I have gathered and been briefed on, every planet, star and galaxy within our own plane and Universe as we "see" it, exists also in these other dimensions.

    We've detected that we know of and have been briefed on, at least four other dimensions that do exist. Now as I said, every planet that we know of, every galaxy does exist in these other dimensions.

    However, with each new dimension, each planet/galaxy/star takes on a different form. To explain it in the most simple... simplest terms, you can look at our own planet Jupiter, which is in the outer reaches of our solar system. Now to us, it's a deadly, gaseous planet, completely uninhabitable. However, when you look at Jupiter in an "elevated dimension," you will see that it has completely changed in all forms. You will see that it's no longer a deadly ball of gas, but is now solid, has a different colour and it is now inhabited. We know for a fact this is true due to the fact that the government has the technology to detect these higher dimensions and actually get a small view of what the solar system "looks like" on the "other side" as we call it, in these "other" dimensions.

    There is much that we do not know about the Universe and how it works, however, here are the facts that I can confirm as "truth" and were made known to me and that I ­ and the other people I worked with, ­have been briefed on.

    Now we are not alone in the Universe. There are alien beings within our own dimension of space, as well as other dimensions. The planet Earth is in an early stage, I guess you could say "training ground" if you will, whereby which we as beings will live until we have advanced to the higher dimensions. Now we are not the bottom of the food chain, and we have discovered that there are at least two dimensions below our own plane. But that is as far as I will go regarding that.

    Now, I'm getting a little bit low on time so I will leave you with a few other important things that people will no doubt want to know about later, at a time this video is made public [Sept 2011]. Now these are things that I have been briefed on by my superiors and that are "common knowledge" in the Black Ops community.

    Now the planet that we know of as Mars was at one time inhabited, ­ but again, at one time, was wiped out by the people who inhabited the planet ­ which were much more technologically advanced than we are, which we discovered by testing and analysing the chemical residue found from the blasts around the planet ­as well as artifacts that we've also discovered on the planet ­including the infamous "glass tubes" seen in the few of the publicly made photographs from NASA. Now these are not "glass" structures but are glass-like material that is about a thousand times stronger than any material or steel that we have on our own planet. These tubes were used as a means of travel ­ underground and above ground ­ by the people who inhabited this planet.

    It is thought from our research, that there are still an ET presence inhabiting Mars, but again, this is as far as I will go, and that I was briefed on, regarding that matter.

    Now, I¹m not trying to be completely vague, but I am trying to give you a "picture" of what is going on out there, that doesn't completely put me in more danger than I am already in, just by revealing the few things that I have.

    One of the last things that I will reveal ­ and that is definitely a fact, and that I have been briefed on, in that many other people involved with the Black Op community have been briefed on ­ and that is our own Moon, which does in fact have alien bases on it and also has bases from our own government. Now there is an ET presence, primarily located on the dark side of the Moon.

    The Apollo Program was in all actuality, a "reconnaissance mission" so that we could research what was exactly there and "who". You will notice that many of the photos from the Apollo Missions have airbrushed out buildings and bases and this is the "truth" of the matter. About half of the video that you will see that is documented from the Apollo Missions, was in fact shot here on Earth at Area 51. In fact, if you look at satellite imagery you can actually see what's left of a "crater field" created at Area 51 that was used in the filming.

    Now the truth is that most of the footage from the Moon was simply "cluttered" with bases, with alien buildings and from what one astronaut said, and I am quoting, "What we're constant... a constant presence of alien vehicles flying over the surface cluttering up the footage". So, again, they showed the American people what they "could" and recreated the rest here on Earth [at Area 51] that they couldn't show.

    From what we know, the dark side of the Moon is where most of the alien presence is located. It's a more primitive alien race from what we can see and our research tells us: it's more primitive than the aliens beings you would see on higher dimensions but still thousands if not millions of years ahead of us.

    Now we have our own bases which are primarily located in or near the Sea of Tranquility, which is the site of Apollo 11 and also one base that I know of located near the crater, Sabine D.

    To this day, we are still sending secret missions to and from the Moon. However, I do not know the complete details of what we are doing there.

    PART 2 ­ HOLLOW EARTH
    Now one of the things that is widely discussed throughout the World and from what I've seen on the Internet, various talk shows on the subject, is whether the Earth is actually hollow along with other planets that are out there that seem to have openings at the poles. This is true for Saturn, Jupiter, [Earth], Venus, Mercury, Mars. There are various images "out there" you can search for if you will just look.

    Now you can actually see Aurora Borealis coming from the poles. These planets... some of these planets which have "no business" having an Aurora Borealis affect so it begs the question, what is going on to cause this and where does the Earth's Aurora Borealis actually come from?

    To put it in simplest terms and this is verified and it may be hard to believe although it is true ­ once you do the work that I've done and others like me have done, you will soon find out that a lot of the things you used to think that [would] never be deemed as "real", or nothing more than fiction, turn out to be in fact, "real" and it seems that fiction... life is stranger than fiction sometimes. Let's just put it that way.

    The Aurora Borealis of Earth is actually coming from openings at the North and South Poles. Now is the Earth hollow? Does it have a central sun? Does it have land masses on the inside with a central star? From what we know, there are confirmed openings at the North and South Poles of Earth. General [Admiral] Byrd, in the 50's, flew a mission to one of the poles [Operation Highjump], it is documented. Fleets of ships and aircraft were taken to the pole and subsequently driven out by a fleet of UFOs or AV's. We established that there was an alien presence coming from these openings out the poles.

    As fas as the government is concerned, we don't believe that there is a central star inside the Earth and that the Earth is hollow. However, we do believe that there are many underground passageways and an underground presence of extra terrestrial life that goes down up to 20 miles beneath the surface of the Earth, with the two poles ­ the North and South Poles ­being the main entrances of where these UFOs and ET beings come out of.

    We believe that they have been there for at least thousands of years and have set up some sort of underground community. We have documented these fleets of ships coming from the poles flying up over Mexico in the early 90's and there is documentation on this also. There was a fleet of literally thousands of UFO disk-like saucers that were seen flying in fleets over Mexico heading towards the Southern United States.

    Now our Airforce, as well as the airforce from Canada and a few other departments and countries from South America also, were scrambled to intercept these saucers and were able to drive the saucers back to the Southern Pole from which they came. We are not sure what type of weaponry they do have, what their purpose is, what they are planning, or why they are coming to the surface and flying in our airspace. That we do not know.

    Every time the government has attempted to send a probe or satellite in orbit to fly over the poles, it either ends up being lost, shut down or destroyed by an unknown means. We are not sure, we believe these satellites and probes are being purposely knocked out of orbit by this extra terrestrial presence.

    We have sent spy planes, as well as drones ­ the same types of drones that are used in Iraq and Afghanistan, ­ to fly over the poles and for what we can see the closest point at the pole right near the opening, the surrounding area for about 50 miles is completely warm; it is 80 degrees Fahrenheit. It is warm, there is vegetation, there is grass, there are mountains. It is not the horribly cold terrain that the rest of the North and South Poles are known for.

    You will see that once the farthest ... the further that you come inland - into the center where the polar opening is, the more greenery and the rapid temperature increase you will see. So there is a definite reason for the openings of these entrances at the poles. There is something that is heating those entrances and heating the surrounding area.

    The radius of 50 miles is a large area which obviously means there is something heating and we've confirmed the Aurora Borealis is coming from inside of the polar openings, which leads us to believe there is something within these poles that is causing this heat and light source to be coming out, although we are not sure. Again, we do not believe there is a central star due to the common laws of gravity. However, I have been briefed and it's basically on a "need-to-know" basis.

    However, what I have heard is that what we know as "gravity" is not correct. What we have found out is that gravity does not come from the mass of the planet. The gravity of the planet... what we have found [is] that gravity is actually magnetic and is actually created through the energy of the Sun.

    From the magnetic properties of the light coming from the Sun is actually what creates "gravity" as we know it, and holds us onto the planet, and there is documentation on this also. That any planet or moon or circular object out in the cosmos that at least has a radius of 21 miles, can have gravity.

    Now we are still investigating exactly how this gravity works but what we have found out is that most of these extra terrestrial crafts, or A.V's... Alien Vehicles, do manipulate light and use our Sun ­as well as other stars as a main source of controlling these extra terrestrial vehicles.

    If you will do some research on that, there is some documentation found on the internet as well as published in some books that you may have trouble finding. There are also some scientific journals that were published by some very "high-up" scientists speaking of the effects of the Sun with regard to gravity. I assure you that gravity does not come from the mass of the object but does in fact come from the Sun.

    END OF TRANSCRIPT

    The "alternative theory" suggests that we did go to the Moon under JFK's wishes to get there before 1970 (because JFK and the scientific establishment "knew" what was up there, ie an ET presence). Even amateur astronomers had noticed structures and lights moving on the moon decades before and this is well documented.

    When we got there [to the Moon], the astronauts allegedly documented wrecked and still occupied alien bases, found in abundance, literally filling the background of every photograph taken.

    Richard C Hoagland largely bought this to our attention in his ongoing studies of Moon/Mars artifacts since the late 90's with other researchers adding compelling evidence since. This can be seen in several smudged photos. Apparently we were "ordered off the moon".

    Reverse engineered Alien technology was allegedly used in the Moon lander propulsion system and shielding (hence the reason no rocket exhaust or scorched ground can be seen under the Lander, and advanced shielding was used to protect the astronauts from the radioactivity". According to one astronaut, "they [UFOs} were up there waiting for us").

    Parts of the Moon landing were then refilmed at Area 51 in Nevada as the "public could not be shown the truth". (The crater field can be seen in Google Earth). The real photos with the "artifacts" were later airbrushed out before being made available to the public.

    Apollo 17, the last "official" mission, was allegedly ordered to engage in intensive photography of the far side of the Moon, notably the King Crater, where a manned alien base, which still remains, was one of their main "targets".

    According to this "Legend", there were possibly three other Apollo missions after #17, also covert military-controlled - not "public missions," and manned alien bases are allegedly still occupied on the Moon.

    Apparently Earth has several bases of its own on the Moon, mostly in the Sea of Tranquility, near the Apollo 11 site) & on Mars. "Ours" have been there for decades whereas the ET bases are considered thousands of years older if not more.
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    I came across this vid on youtube not too long ago. Whether it is really footage of the opening to the Inner Earth or not, I do not know. Even if not, it enables us to visualise what the opening could look like.

    Certainly looks genuine.

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    I'm personally having trouble believing this man is what he claims. Many of his ideas could easily be found in a few minutes with "google searches" - like his claims of moon bases and life on Mars - where's the evidence?? He's much too paranoid over this paltry information - its not like he's showing us cold fusion machines producing unlimited free energy. I also think that without showing us the "documentation" he claims to have, his claims about gravity are contradictory - especially his claim any circular object with a radius of over 21 miles can have gravity, then he says gravity is created from light emitted from sun - why would 21 miles be critical, what's wrong with a 20 mile radius object? Also even totally dark planets that receive no sunlight are shown to follow gravitational orbits (so they still have gravity in the dark).
    As a disclaimer, I'm not trying to pick apart his videos, I just want some (or any shread) of evidence before I can believe his unusual ideas. There's many charlatans out there who simply seek attention & they can be hard to spot.
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    Looks like a fake. Study the clouds and flames going into the vortex and you will see repeating patterns, suggesting this is a loop, not continuous footage as purported.

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    Looks like a fake. Study the clouds and flames going into the vortex and you will see repeating patterns, suggesting this is a loop, not continuous footage as purported.
    Thanks for your input, 1159. I've re watched the clip and can't seem to find any repeating patterns in the clouds or the flames. Anyone else see the repeating patterns?
    Here's the explanation-
    'This is a recording of the opening of the hollow earth, clouds move in and through the holes. The source of the video is unknown, but was leaked by someone at NASA, it is authentic. This video is completely real, there is no manipulation or a volcano or anything like that, what you're seeing is most likely shot from the space shuttle STS-80-USA- by NASA in 1996, as you can see the recording is part of the fuselage of the shuttle that was recorded at the time of filming.'
    What I would like to see is a diagram of said shuttle, and a matching up of that with the fuselage in the footage.

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    Looks like a fake. Study the clouds and flames going into the vortex and you will see repeating patterns, suggesting this is a loop, not continuous footage as purported.
    Or possibly just a volcano filmed in reverse? But the vortex effect is interesting and doesn't look like a volcano. (Can't see any looping either The "inside" of the "vehicle" it was filmed from wouldn't yet lead me to believe it was filmed from the shuttle - looks more like the inside of a helicopter (But I do believe there is an entrance to the South Pole and that underground - and underwater -bases and civilisations exist

    Recent theories suggest that the entrances open & close - including other "vortex" areas like the Bermuda Triangle, also one below Japan, and oddly enough, the Great Lakes.
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    Quote Posted by TelosianEmbrace (here)
    'This is a recording of the opening of the hollow earth, clouds move in and through the holes. The source of the video is unknown, but was leaked by someone at NASA, it is authentic. This video is completely real, there is no manipulation or a volcano or anything like that, what you're seeing is most likely shot from the space shuttle STS-80-USA- by NASA in 1996, as you can see the recording is part of the fuselage of the shuttle that was recorded at the time of filming.'
    well clearly there is manipulation because they have put in music... lol.
    & in the other videos of this someone has put in the sound of the caves in tibet... when people put music & what ever else in these videos makes me think its a fake... maybe the video its self is not though. this looks like it was filmed from the inside of a plane/shuttle or whatever, because it was filmed inside there absolutely would be sound to this clip even if it is just the sound of an engine & it would greatly improve the sense that this is real... but again its not there.

    as for the video it looks like there is a loop in this video, at the bottom right of the window there is a gap between clouds then they merge then it gaps then merges, look & see if you can see what I mean.

    I would love for this to be real but can't say I'm convinced :/

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    Looks like a fake. Study the clouds and flames going into the vortex and you will see repeating patterns, suggesting this is a loop, not continuous footage as purported.
    I can see the repeating patterns too. If the Third Reich found the entrance to hollow earth, probably we'll find out in our lifetime.

    But thanks for sharing T.E.

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    Hello Zepheriah

    I am currently wading my way through H.P. Lovecraft's: Necronomicon, also called Necronomicon: Book of the Dead very scary stuff …

    Best regards. JP

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    I am not saying hollow earth is a false concept, but I don't think it's on our 3d physical dimension. I think this 'film' represents what's there, interdimensionaly, but I am not convinced it's a real record done by an ordinary camera. We know that EBs pop in and out of our physical dimension, as this has been recorded manyt times on film. It is also thought that EBs populate this 'hollow earth' environment.

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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Big discussion of the "Objects on the Moon" is also here:

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...n--NASA-Photos

    And here is a transcript from two of the videos:

    TRANSCRIPT - LEAKED Insider Recording About NASA, UFOs, Aliens, Moon Bases,
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    KiwiElf, thanks a lot for those transcripts, you've saved me a lot of work. Have a nice day!

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