Occupy wall street protesters' arrests

[ktlight]

This video was taken Sept. 20, 2011 at 10:08 a.m. (Eastern) in Zuccotti Park - New York, NY

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYaA-34c-vI

[ViralSpiral]

Unbelievable!

Yes, shame on them. And yet, we need to forgive them, for they dont truly know why they're doing it.

[Sarlic]

Whats happened to peoples right to hold peaceful protests ?

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Very sad I have got an impression that those officers where some kind of probe. They took three people only and allowed to record it. I think they were not sent to tottally dismantle this protest in one swipe. They wanted to seed fear and aggression. Not good if protesters will fall for it... If they do police has finished it's job...

And policemen were totally focused on their job and not preocupied with the public at all. Like robots...
All this people need some positive thoughts now. I send mine right now...

I feel very humble for these brave people in my distant location...

[ktlight]

There were enough people standing around to overwhelm the police!!!

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Kathy, it is good for this protest they stayed peaceful. If they tried even to touch or throw anything at police this would be end of peaceful protest. Police would have a reason to "lawfuly" disperse dangerous agressively behaving crowd. This could be an action to provoke these people into agression... It will be all psyop now... Constantly... Things could get out of control any moment...
This policemen ignoring public were doing it on purpose. Don't you feel angry, intimidiated and helpless when somebody ignores you? I do...

We really should suport these protesters spiritually... To send them courage, understanding and much much love...

[folotheflo]

Posted by Robert J. Niewiadomski (here)
Very sad I have got an impression that those officers where some kind of probe. They took three people only and allowed to record it. I think they were not sent to tottally dismantle this protest in one swipe. They wanted to seed fear and aggression. Not good if protesters will fall for it... If they do police has finished it's job...

And policemen were totally focused on their job and not preocupied with the public at all. Like robots...
All this people need some positive thoughts now. I send mine right now...

I feel very humble for these brave people in my distant location...

i reckon thats about right, "they" are trying to sow the fear seed again. klight, i am not sure it is yet the right time to overwhelm the police, i do know what you mean though, if and when "they" say i have to have a microchip implanted to exist within society for example, then i will fight the police in the streets. i think many more people are needed to dismantle the police system. full power to everyone there, may the force be with you all !

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by ktlight (here)
There were enough people standing around to overwhelm the police!!!

The Irish in me recognises and likes those words.
They want people to do that though, so what do we do?
Don't give them what they want.
Play OUR game and not theirs and get them to react to US.

[TigaHawk]

I have a feeling i would be the first they'd arrest and put into a truck.


Because i'd be screaming what the hell are you doing just standing there watching people? We have the right to arrest these wankers under citizens arrest, can you not see they're breaking the law by abusing, and inflicting unnecessary pain on these people? Where have your'e balls gone? Are you realy content to just sit back and video and mutter amongst yourselves that its wrong??? DO SOMETHING!

lol just read you're post sid.

I'm sorry but in my eyes, they've taken away our game (protesting peacefully). Therefor we need to take the ball back , as weve asked nicely on numerous times only to be spat in the face by them.

[ktlight]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by ktlight (here)
There were enough people standing around to overwhelm the police!!!

The Irish in me recognises and likes those words.
They want people to do that though, so what do we do?
Don't give them what they want.
Play OUR game and not theirs and get them to react to US.

But, if each time they were overwhelmed by numbers, what then? And, if they were to bring out the army, then tactical manouevres would have to be involved, all done peacefully. No-one would need to be harmed as such.

When a viciously tempered animal is loose, it is captured without death or harm, unless of course the typical human reaction were to come to the fore, such as killing the animal.

[folotheflo]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by ktlight (here)
There were enough people standing around to overwhelm the police!!!

The Irish in me recognises and likes those words.
They want people to do that though, so what do we do?
Don't give them what they want.
Play OUR game and not theirs and get them to react to US.

sounds like the best answer yet. very good advice lord, but what exactly is our game ?

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Posted by folotheflo (here)
(...)what exactly is our game ?

Love and peaceful disobedience. It worked fine for Ghandi in India. Why not in the West? Dirty Harry style works fine in Tell-lie-vision only. Not in the street. Ok it acctually works. But for a short while only If we want permanent peace then only peace can earn it. Noviolence. But you can seat down on pavement and do nothing. You can play checkers or do crosswords or sudoku or sing if seating seems boring and "soft". If you do as they want you to do you lose their game. If it is going home or throwing stones or even shouting at them. Game Over. Insert coin.

[folotheflo]

Posted by Robert J. Niewiadomski (here)

Posted by folotheflo (here)
(...)what exactly is our game ?

Love and peaceful disobedience. It worked fine for Ghandi in India. Why not in the West? Dirty Harry style works fine in Tell-lie-vision only. Not in the street. Ok it acctually works. But for a short while only If we want permanent peace then only peace can earn it. Noviolence. But you can seat down on pavement and do nothing. You can play checkers or do crosswords or sudoku or sing if seating seems boring and "soft". If you do as they want you to do you lose their game. If it is going home or throwing stones or even shouting at them. Game Over. Insert coin.

ok, i agree, and now i know it, i shall live it. i will be the change i wish to see in this world. we could do with some of lord sid's legal expertise maybe though, i think he may have a few things he could "pull out of the bag"

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Yes it is easy for me to talk like that from the "comfort" of my distance
And I am fully aware that peacefully protesting by siting on a pavement could get pretty painfull When you get hit with a baton in your face or sprayed with a tear gas or zapped you have to really have an ocean of love in your heart to not stand up and fight for your "rights" (forgive me Bob M...) or go home in tears and grudge and forget about this silly protest... I don't know if I would stand such pain myself... But if things get so dire that you have to go to the street and protest it meens that there is not much to loose anyway... I am certain I will have to go to the street and protest sooner or later. And when it comes I will try to not freak out...

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by ktlight (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by ktlight (here)
There were enough people standing around to overwhelm the police!!!

The Irish in me recognises and likes those words.
They want people to do that though, so what do we do?
Don't give them what they want.
Play OUR game and not theirs and get them to react to US.

But, if each time they were overwhelmed by numbers, what then? And, if they were to bring out the army, then tactical manouevres would have to be involved, all done peacefully. No-one would need to be harmed as such.

When a viciously tempered animal is loose, it is captured without death or harm, unless of course the typical human reaction were to come to the fore, such as killing the animal.

Never underestimate their tendency for violence.
Whether you are violent or not, they are.

Posted by folotheflo (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by ktlight (here)
There were enough people standing around to overwhelm the police!!!

The Irish in me recognises and likes those words.
They want people to do that though, so what do we do?
Don't give them what they want.
Play OUR game and not theirs and get them to react to US.

sounds like the best answer yet. very good advice lord, but what exactly is our game ?

Our game is to assert our power, over theirs.
There are more of us than there is of them.
That is one thing they fear, numbers.

Posted by Robert J. Niewiadomski (here)

Posted by folotheflo (here)
(...)what exactly is our game ?

Love and peaceful disobedience. It worked fine for Ghandi in India. Why not in the West? Dirty Harry style works fine in Tell-lie-vision only. Not in the street. Ok it acctually works. But for a short while only If we want permanent peace then only peace can earn it. Noviolence. But you can seat down on pavement and do nothing. You can play checkers or do crosswords or sudoku or sing if seating seems boring and "soft". If you do as they want you to do you lose their game. If it is going home or throwing stones or even shouting at them. Game Over. Insert coin.

The situation with the break up of the empire isn't as it may appear, so I wouldn't credit anyone for getting India's ''independance'' until I was sure they actually are.

[ktlight]

LS,

Never underestimate their tendency for violence.
Whether you are violent or not, they are.

They cannot be violent to us ALL but they can be dis-armed through and by numbers.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by ktlight (here)
LS,

Never underestimate their tendency for violence.
Whether you are violent or not, they are.

They cannot be violent to us ALL but they can be dis-armed through and by numbers.

No, not all.
But they know this, more is often achieved by the threat of the use of force, than by the use of force itself.
Fear.

[folotheflo]

Lord Sid, you say " Our game is to assert our power, over theirs. There are more of us than there is of them. That is one thing they fear, numbers". And Ktlight, you say " They cannot be violent to us ALL but they can be dis-armed through and by numbers". So our numbers are our greatest strength, we all need to turn up physically to such events, as many of us that can in the world. like the movie "V for Vendetta". But what will be the catalyst for us all.

[spiritguide]

The answer to this puzzle is to study and confer with the people of Wisconsin and how they dealt with their problem of corruption in a very peaceful manner. They are still dealing with it but with guidance of the energies of good thought. Fear feeds them and anger unleaches them. Just be a force for good.....

Peace!!!!

[ktlight]

It will be the zeitgeist, as happens from time to time and, when it does, there is an outflow of spirit felt by all. Fear is something we can overcome as individuals and collectively.