24th September 2011 12:36
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An Immortal called John
Much to my dismay I'm lurking around here a little bit - after leaving several times. I'm back again to sate some curiosity that has re-awoken this last week about a so called immortal that I learned about in 1994.
Here's the story. Someone I am very close to, told me in 1994 how they met on several occasions with a man who claimed to have been more than 2,000 years old. They met with this man in several countries, at the request of someone who knew him. My friend said that he was a very humble gentle man and the story that he told was that he was the man who speared Christ and for that he was condemned to walk the Earth in penance. He said that he wrote the entire Bible (including excised books such as the Apocrypha) to demonstrate the diversity of human nature and how humanity could understand the link between man and god. (Of course such an idea flies in the face of Biblical Scholars who identify anywhere from 11-60 + authors across thousands of years - from the time of Moses). He wove history with story and metaphor. That man was the disciple John ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_the_Evangelist ).
My friend said that she believed that John was born around the time of Jesus but she could not rule out that he was born long before this and that he may have fallen into friendship with Jesus - in who he found a strong spiritual kin.
My friend said that he was able to demonstrate many strange things at her request - including the ability to stop his heart for long periods of time and that he had well developed telepathic/empathic skills. Apparently John also identified that a Cross of the Holy See that she owned contained several artifacts from the time of Christ - including a fragment of the original text and a splinter from the Cross. Said Cross had been examined at Caltec in the 1980's and was found to contain several unusual small objects but my friend did not want the cross opened.
My friend said that she did not doubt John, (who was called something else) and felt that he was the most compassionate man she had ever met.
A few years ago I heard an interview by Benjamin Grundy (Mysterious Universe) with Ben Abba - a man who claimed to have found an immortal, who said that he had once been a disciple of Jesus (http://secrets-of-an-immortal.com/ ). I asked my friend if it was possible that this was the same person and she said that she thought it was unlikely. I once mentioned it to Stephan Schwartz, who felt that Ben Abba's claims were unlikely. My friend never said that it wasn't him but that it was 'unlikely but possible'. For the man that Ben speaks about is 800 years older than John claims to be. I often wondered if this is the same man. The connections in Ben Abba's story are very similar.
I have heard/seen evidence of 3 other so called immortals - including a woman who is 13,000 years old, a man who is 7,000 years old and a woman is 3,000 years old (and connected to another topic I once spoke about here). Of course none of these humans are entirely what they appear to be. I know that one is part alien. Of the others who knows ? But one thing is certain - non of them are truly immortal but who knows how long they might live and why ?
If such humans exist - imagine what they have learned and how they have come to recognize the patterns of world events. What would they see unfolding now ?
My friend spoke of other things but for now that is enough.
Has anybody ever heard of this story or found evidence supporting it or the claims of an Immortal called John ?
Have a lovely September,
Last edited by Bright Garlick; 24th September 2011 at 12:57.
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24th September 2011 12:48
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