BBC News...get ready!!

[Ineffable Hitchhiker]

Posted by MargueriteBee (here)
PLEASE post links for those of us who cannot see the embeds!!!!!!!!!!

Not sure what you mean, so I will try various options.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpg76...eature=related

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpg76VjTa58

I am not sure what to make of this, but it is rather surprising.

[TargeT]

This is suprising? really?

[araucaria]

Posted by Mare (here)
What are the implications of this for ordinary folks? If you have a mortgage will you lose it? If you rent your home will you lose it when the rent stops being payed in? Food. Will it go up in price or disappear off the shelves? Will water, gas and electricity just stop?

I live and work in the city, and only have debts, no real savings. When this guy says prepare yourself what does that mean for us? Stockpile food and water. Drive off into the countryside and pitch a tent, or as far as you can until the diesel runs out. This guy is now comparing it to the 30's and we all know what happened after that.

I had a dream many years ago that made me sit upright in bed when I awoke from it. A voice in the dream that sounded like God in one of those early Cecille B DeMille religious epics, said 'There will be war after the games but not before the death of the Pope'. Every year since especially Olympic time and world cup football time I kept checking up on the Pope you know, and then I gave it up as just a daft dream. Then it occurred to me earlier this year that the UK (where I live) hosts the Olympics next year. Well i'm not interested in scaremongering at all, I prefer to keep upbeat about everything but there are comparisons to be made from the 30's. Jeez.

Good questions Mare.
Tell me, you must be watching the pope too - how long do your reckon the old boy has got left. We all know when the Olympics are but that would be a real scoop.

[GlassSteagallfan]

Posted by Earth Angel (here)
I wouldn't mind losing my mortgage just not the house

In court, tell them to produce the note.


Apparently, its not about saving the system, its about making money on the crash. To hell with the consequenses.

[Anno]

My question would be this. If 'Europe' collapses -remembering that it is a contractualy created club not a 'place'- what will happen to all the ex-european citizens living in places like the UK, France, Germany and Netherlands?

They're not exactly welcome and this would give a perfectly legitimate excuse to start mass deportation as well as ending aid packages and trade agreements.

We should remember that the UK has never adopted the Euro. You can spend them here in some shops but we're still officially £GBP.

However, the other side is that the most deprived parts of the UK have been depending on funds like ERDF and ESF for years now. If they stop then a lot of our charity sector and public sector are going to find themselves unemployed.

[Chinaski]

Posted by Anno (here)
My question would be this. If 'Europe' collapses -remembering that it is a contractualy created club not a 'place'- what will happen to all the ex-european citizens living in places like the UK, France, Germany and Netherlands?

They're not exactly welcome and this would give a perfectly legitimate excuse to start mass deportation as well as ending aid packages and trade agreements.

We should remember that the UK has never adopted the Euro. You can spend them here in some shops but we're still officially £GBP.

However, the other side is that the most deprived parts of the UK have been depending on funds like ERDF and ESF for years now. If they stop then a lot of our charity sector and public sector are going to find themselves unemployed.

they'll all get stuck in airports!

haven't you seen the movie 'Terminal', w/tom Hanks?

[Anno]

Posted by Chinaski (here)

Posted by Anno (here)
My question would be this. If 'Europe' collapses -remembering that it is a contractualy created club not a 'place'- what will happen to all the ex-european citizens living in places like the UK, France, Germany and Netherlands?

They're not exactly welcome and this would give a perfectly legitimate excuse to start mass deportation as well as ending aid packages and trade agreements.

We should remember that the UK has never adopted the Euro. You can spend them here in some shops but we're still officially £GBP.

However, the other side is that the most deprived parts of the UK have been depending on funds like ERDF and ESF for years now. If they stop then a lot of our charity sector and public sector are going to find themselves unemployed.

they'll all get stuck in airports!

haven't you seen the movie 'Terminal', w/tom Hanks?

I love that film. I think a few containers of arm bands and a reminder that 'the Channel isn't that big really' might be more likely. Or maybe line up them Boy Girl Boy Girl and have a walking train through the Chunnel.

As a side comment. This guy in the video is American. America is worried that some countries were threatening to adopt the Euro standard instead of the Dollar standard, which would be seriously bad news for the US. This could be Disinfo, although I'm not sure MI5 would allow it on their official Tv Station.

This is also one of those mystery threads we get where there are more unregistered people watching than registered ones. 57 at present. That always makes me suspicious.

[Ineffable Hitchhiker]

Posted by TargeT (here)
This is suprising? really?

MEH

panem et circenses

[TargeT]

Posted by Anno (here)
America is worried that some countries were threatening to adopt the Euro standard instead of the Dollar standard, which would be seriously bad news for the US. This could be Disinfo, although I'm not sure MI5 would allow it on their official Tv Station.
.

Not really, maybe if the Euro had a lot more stability behind it...

But the fear is real ( just don't add in "euro") russia / china / Iran is the most credible "alternate dollar" oil sales issue in my mind.. and yes, that would mean the end of the US economy.

[Chinaski]

a mystery thread indeed, Anno. just noticed that.

though i don't know whether to read into it too much. the last sort of unassuming thread to get this much attention was one on hair. yes, HAIR. lol! i honestly thought there was some sort of glitch in the system.

but yeah, this is nuts! currently there are 81 users! (30 members and 51 guests).

conspiracy police, pull over.

[Anno]

Posted by Chinaski (here)
[...]though i don't know whether to read into it too much. the last sort of unassuming thread to get this much attention was one on hair. yes, HAIR. lol! i honestly thought there was some sort of glitch in the system.[...]

I remember that one. A good thread indeed. It's always threads like that one that get the attention from the ghosts but registered members soon get distracted by the aliens and whatnots. There are lots of deep truths hidden in threads that never go past a page of posts and the ghosts are usually in attendance watching them.

[Pete]

the best thing they could do is freeze trading. these traders can smell the blood of a financial killing and they will be blind until the deed is done.

[ghostrider]

interesting , I don't care what the market does I just want to know how I can make money from it. to hell with the average folks, and their savings, and their children's future , How can I make money in a downward market ? this guy should be hung in public and all his friends forced to watch. He said he doesn't care about the market, just how much money can he make ..... this is the problem , no one care about anyone else just their own personal wealth . If this is their thinking, then no wonder things are the way we are, paper is worth nothing, you can't live inside paper, or eat paper, or heal yourself with paper, or drive your paper to work, it's just green paper, backed by gold or silver or some politican't words. I hope he is the first one broke and homeless and hungry and sick and needing help. I would tell him I'm no concerned how sick you are just , how can I make money from it.....

[Ilie Pandia]

Hello,

This guy said some major truths that I'd like to spell out:

- The Governments don't run the world, the banks do (or at least try their best to remain in power). We here knew this, but being aired on BBC makes it interesting.

- The traders and the "smart money" do not care, let me repeat that as it seems to be important, they do not care if the market goes up or down or it crashes. They have the financial instruments to "protect their assets", to bet against the market and so on. So those that get to see the trend in advance, or are powerful enough to influence it, are going to make money regardless of what recovery package Obama talks about, or what "cuts" or "austerity measures" are put in place.

- as he implies with his prayers, a market crash is a big opportunity to make big money fast, if you know how to do it. This suggests (to me) that there is a big interest that the market should crash.

Also, I'd like to say that I think this trader's suggestion to protect your assets are further traps, because he has only suggested paper assets. Those paper assets present the risk of going lower in value than the actual paper they are printed on. (I got the impression that he suggested that the dollar would be a better investment, while the euro would not. That's a trap, in my mind).

PS: This guy should not be hung, he should be given a medal for trying to tell it like it is! while the rest, sugar coat the issue, to make it palatable.

[simgaz]

Please remember that at this point you still have a free will choice,

love or fear

The things which will come to be, will be and are here to help each learn.

with love
gary

[araucaria]

Posted by Anno (here)
My question would be this. If 'Europe' collapses -remembering that it is a contractualy created club not a 'place'- what will happen to all the ex-european citizens living in places like the UK, France, Germany and Netherlands?

They're not exactly welcome and this would give a perfectly legitimate excuse to start mass deportation as well as ending aid packages and trade agreements.

We should remember that the UK has never adopted the Euro. You can spend them here in some shops but we're still officially £GBP.

However, the other side is that the most deprived parts of the UK have been depending on funds like ERDF and ESF for years now. If they stop then a lot of our charity sector and public sector are going to find themselves unemployed.

This is a very 'site specific' remark, as they say in contemporary art circles. Many of us at Avalon seem to be living in places which we are advised to quit - usually because, like most of the global population, we are within paddling distance of the sea.

I personally am not going anywhere. Let's just see how this plays out, shall we?

[christian]

So the Euro is toast he says. Of course it is.

The thing with rat poison is, that you got to get the rat to eat it, so you feed the poison with 99% delicious stuff.

The safe havens he mentions are 30 year treasury bonds or the dollar.

You got to be kidding, folks, get a grip. I don't know what his motivations are, but he is creepy to say the least. He says "I'm not interested in fixing the situation, I just want to make money" - What a decent role model. Could well just be another diversion from the real elephant in the room by adressing people's survival interest and greed (reptilian brain), this is a classic case of NLP, mention "you could profit from the situation" a couple of times in different variations and you will see how people would even buy 30 year treasuries, there is hardly a better way to trash your money.

He does not mention gold or silver at all.

All fiat currencies are like sky-divers without parachutes, sometimes one appears to be closer to the crash, sometimes the other, but they are all determined to crash.

Figure out, that the whole system is a fraud and focus on creating a whole new one, based actually on decent values like trust, mutual assistance, self-responsibility, kindness and moderation and not on greed, control, deceit, bondage etc.

[araucaria]

Not only am I not going anywhere, I am not buying gold or silver - totally inedible, and lead is just as good on the end of a fishing line.

[Cidersomerset]

He is just telling us what we know on here , the economic cycle is the pressure valve the Banksters/Ellites have always used since modern banking 200 years ago....Thats how they make alot of there wealth by flooding markets with cheap money and stimulus, then crashing them and clawing it back..They have no qualms about economic casualties and that chap just had the courage to tell the truth......

The news reporter reaction was a treat......What they want to do now is play the David Icke interview Fraimin put up earlier , he explains the economic situation in very clear BBC english...

Bear in mind he used to read the news on the BBC , he'd certainly have 'Paxman' and co in a 'tizz'......... Cheers Steve..

[Pete]

I'm sure we all know that this is a planned act. this actually should be stopped before it goes too far. This guy has used the words "the Elite" and has told an unpalatable truth," governments do not rule the world, Goldman Sachs rules the world". Well as I understand it, everyone has to abide by the laws and if the governments stepped in and shut the markets there wouldn't be much that Goldman Sachs could do about it.