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    Default New food bill in new zealand takes away human right to grow food!!!

    I just came across this this morning, it is very disturbing. Especially considering so little has been said about it, and it has already passed the first reading in Parliament!!
    Fellow Kiwis, we MUST do something about this! This is an outrageous dismissal of our human rights. The key factor here is SEEDS, if this Bill is passed, seeds will become a controlled substance (can you even believe this is real?!, in NEW ZEALAND?!!!) Even swapping your carrots for spuds with the neighbours will label people criminals!
    The potential here for the powers that be to rule over everything is scary to say the least...




    Please follow the link and have a read through, including the link to the actual Bill itself.

    http://nzfoodsecurity.org/

    Link to the actual Bill: http://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/...resel&p=1&sr=1

    Then please share it far and wide with as many people as possible,

    Thanks everyone.

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    Default Re: New food bill in new zealand takes away human right to grow food!!!

    Wow..it's happening there too? So first they go and build a huge vault in wherever it is (the arctic, is that where it is?) with tonnes of seeds; then go make it illegal everywhere to possess heirloom seeds, and/or organic foods anywhere. Thanks Monsanto!

    Backyard gardens are coming under attack in America as well, have been for (I believe) a few years now.

    Best of luck my kiwi friends!
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    Default Re: New food bill in new zealand takes away human right to grow food!!!

    Thank you for issuing the alert Morgaine. This is real, as unbelievable as it sounds, and it is little different here in Oz. It is all tied up with Codex Alimentarius, a subject which has numerous threads here on PA, but from what I have seen, never stirs up much emotion.

    Perhaps now we need to get the emotions stirred up, as it is simply outrageous.

    I only hope that it is not too late for all of us!

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    Here is a link to a Melbourne based mob who specialise in heirloom varieties of all manner of fruit and veggie seeds. I don't know if you can import to NZ, but you may find a similar outfit over there.

    http://www.diggers.com.au/

    I have been a member of their "club" for years, and will now, finally, stock up on seeds, because no b**tard is going to tell me what I can and cannot grow!
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    Default Re: New food bill in new zealand takes away human right to grow food!!!

    Now if you ask me this is REALLY taking the NWO globalist agenda a step too far!

    I had no idea they were trying to restrict our access to seeds and growing fruit/veg in our own back yards.

    Seriously?... no more growing food for ourselves so we can avoid the GM rubbish they keep trying to shove down our throats?... how utterly absurd!

    Geeezus... their crap is becoming less and less tolerable by the day!

    Do they really think they can just introduce legislation like this, "on the sly", and around the world without anyone noticing or putting up a fight?

    For Pete's sake!... how arrogant, sneaky and brazen are these @ssholes becoming?... and how stupid do they think we actually are?!

    If the NWO globalists want to start a worldwide people's revolution then they're certainly going the right way about it!...

    Wars, financial system collapse, tax payer funded bank bailouts, carbon taxes and ETS, GMO foods, restricting access to seeds and growing our own fruit/veg etc etc etc this list goes on and on and on... what's next?!

    Is it just me or is it starting to look like they actually want to instigate chaos and turmoil around the globe by pissing the common people off to the point where they can't take it any longer and feel like the only way to change their circumstances is to rebel , lash out and fight the PTB to the bitter end?!

    If this is all part of the devious little plan then I have a sneaking suspicion it may just backfire on them... big time!!!

    Also...WHAT A BUNCH OF DOUCHE BAGS!!!


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    Ok,I feel much better now after getting that off my chest... apologies for the rant y'all
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    Default Re: New food bill in new zealand takes away human right to grow food!!!

    Time to gather the pitchforks.

    The PTB/W will recognize them ... they have seen them before.

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    Default Re: New food bill in new zealand takes away human right to grow food!!!

    They can't throw everyone in jail. Keep those seeds and grow, grow, grow!
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    Default Re: New food bill in new zealand takes away human right to grow food!!!

    I have a sneaky feeling they are trying to starve US all or either make food so high in their growing, no one will be able to feed their family. my little garden helps me out with veggies whent he kids are out of school or when the family is in a tight position like a rock and a hard space. They've sounded the charge by sneaking this in and this is only the beginning as long as corporations are people too.
    Well if they are, then they have to abide by the same laws of NO MONOPOLIZATION of VITAL SERVICES OR GOODS.

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    OMG, I never thought I would see the day this happened in NZ. Its all over my facebook. Good catch Morgaine

    NZ is at times used as a test case for Australia - eg. GST, Carbon Tax. Odds on there is legislation ready to be snuck in here as well.

    The minute I heard that Keys first phone call upon being elected PM was to Isreal sent shivers down my spine!!

    and BUMP
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    Committee process

    The Food Bill was referred to the committee on 22 July 2010. The closing date for submissions was 2 September 2010. We received and considered 66 submissions from interested groups and individuals. We heard 26 submissions.
    We received advice from the Food Safety branch of the Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry (formerly the New Zealand Food Safety Authority.) The Regulations Review Committee reported to the committee on the powers contained in clauses 21, 178, 180, 346, 367 and 403.

    Committee membership

    Shane Ardern (Chairperson)
    Hon Jim Anderton
    Brendon Burns
    Dr Ashraf Choudhary
    Craig Foss
    Sandra Goudie
    Colin King
    Hon Damien O’Connor
    Sue Kedgley was a non-voting member for this item of business.

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    Default Re: New food bill in new zealand takes away human right to grow food!!!

    For the avoidance of ANY doubt:

    "Under the bill, any “undertaking” (anyone) that “processes” (grows/produces) “food” (plants/anything that can be eaten/plant material/seeds) for “sale” (bartering/offering/giving away/feeding people/selling for reserve bank notes etc) OR that just “sells” (barters, gives away) any “food” (plants, seeds etc) however that “food” is acquired will need to be licensed by the government in some way, or have a specific exemption.
    This is outlined in the Meanings Sections (Sections 8-10, and Section 12) that are appended below in Appendix B."
    ACTUAL BILL

    Meanwhile, 6400 people have now crammed Kate Wilkinon’s inbox via www.petitiononline.co.nz, voicing their disgust at the bill. And eight out of ten of today’s top results on a google search for “food bill 160″ are protesting the bill.
    So while the mainstream media keeps up its near-total silence on the Food Bill, real people are using their own networks to spread information about the most important thing for us after water – food. This tide seems to be gathering pace. Share, share, share…
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    Default Re: New food bill in new zealand takes away human right to grow food!!!

    It's clear that these politicians have NO PROBLEM killing people when they pass these types of laws. It's fracking obvious that they're murderers at heart.... I'm of the firm belief that they wouldn't dare make laws like these and many others, if they knew they faced the death penalty. Maybe that should be the next law on the books just for govt officials....

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    Default Re: New food bill in new zealand takes away human right to grow food!!!

    Okay, so if this bill passes and you decide to have a few friends over for dinner, you'll have to separate out the food you've grown yourself from foods purchased at grocery and create two menus or you're committing a crime. Wow, they'll have to build a substantial number of prisons to hold us criminals. They'll also have to create large numbers of food police. Absurd.

    So, prisoner 503695, what are you in for?
    I served homegrown tomatoes at a dinner party.

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    This bill is disgusting. All people have the right to grow their own food and to share it. They will have a revolution on their hands if they try to implement this one!!! I have signed the petition. My God, this is incredible if they think they can get away with this one!!!

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    Default Re: New food bill in new zealand takes away human right to grow food!!!

    What's so interesting is that people who think that Conspiracy Theory is just for wackos have only to look at this kind of blatant thing and will see the wisdom of thinking again about Conspiracy Theory.

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    thanks for post , i have writen to Four coners, 60minutes, Todayday Tonight over a week ago and still no response by them or seen any stories done on the subject to promote awareness. I will wait and see if some T.V. crew picks up this story. Be interesting to see how high the cover up goes , The lack of coverage and lack of interest by the major media is quite fishy.

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    Default Re: New food bill in new zealand takes away human right to grow food!!!

    Here is another article on the same subject...

    Warrantless searches of houses and marae for food and seeds, even with guns, are coming to NZ soon thanks to the Food Bill – unless you do something.

    The following video shows a SWAT team raiding a health food store in California. The Food Bill paves the way for this to happen in NZ (yes, also with guns). This site deals with Solutions to this Very Big Problem. Please watch the video, listen to the audio, and read the text and comments.



    What is the Food Bill?

    - A Government Bill introduced to Parliament in May 2010, which has since passed its first reading and been through a Select Committee review. It is awaiting a second reading as at 20 July. It may be enacted in the near future.

    What are the problems with the Food Bill?

    - It turns a human right (to grow food and share it) into a government-authorised privilege that can be summarily revoked.

    - It makes it illegal to distribute “food” without authorisation, and it defines “food” in such a way that it includes nutrients, seeds, natural medicines, essential minerals and drinks (including water).

    - By controlling seeds, the bill takes the power to grow food away from the public and puts it in the hands of seed companies. That power may be abused.

    - The bill will push up mainstream food prices by subjecting producers to red tape and registration costs. Food prices are already rising due to increased energy costs and commodity speculation, while effective disposable incomes are falling.

    - Growing food for distribution must be authorised, even for “cottage industries”, and such authorisation can be denied.

    - Under the Food Bill, Police acting as Food Safety Officers can raid premises without a warrant, using all equipment they deem necessary – including guns (Clause 265 – 1).

    - Members of the private sector can also be Food Safety Officers, as at Clause 243. So Monsanto employees can raid premises – including marae – backed up by armed police.

    - The Bill gives Food Safety Officers immunity from criminal and civil prosection.

    - The Government has created this bill to keep in line with its World Trade Organisation obligations under an international scheme called Codex Alimentarius (“Food Book”). So it has to pass this bill in one form or another.

    - There are problems with Codex also. Codex will place severe restrictions on the content of vitamins, minerals and therapeutic compounds in food, drinks and supplements etc.

    - The Food Bill means that non-Codex-complying producers can be shut down easily – thus it paves the way for the legal enforcement of Codex food regulations. Producers will be denied registration (which is discretionary) if they do not keep to Codex food production rules.

    What are the implications for Food Security in NZ?

    - The bill would undermine the efforts of many people to become more self-sufficient within their local communities.

    - Seed banks and seed-sharing networks could be shut down if they could not obtain authorisation. Loss of seed variety would make it more difficult to grow one’s own food.

    - Home-grown food and some or all seed could not be bartered on a scale or frequency necessary to feed people in communities where commercially available food has become unaffordable or unavailable (for example due to economic collapse).

    - Restrictions on the trade of food and seed would quickly lead to the permanent loss of heirloom strains, as well as a general lowering of plant diversity in agriculture.

    - Organic producers of heirloom foods could lose market share to big-money agribusiness outfits, leading to an increase in the consumption of nutrient-poor and GE foods.

    If the bill is going to be passed anyway, what can we do?

    - People must decide if they will allow the enacted bill to apply them individually. The hardest thing to realise here is that we actually have a choice. Yet we do. The Crown tells us we are subject to legislation only by our consent – in other words by our individual, informed choice – here.

    This consent can be formally revoked using a notarised Claim of Right (see www.claimofright.org for a template). If such a Claim is not disputed by affected parties like the police, Ministry of Justice etc, the claimant is no longer subject to legislation (though still subject to Common Law).

    - Those who choose not to be subject to the enacted bill and other prohibitive legislation individually can then take steps to protect their collective interests using the formal contract the Queen has with the Natives of this country – the contract being the 1835 Declaration of Independence and its subsequent variation, Te Tiriti o Waitangi 1840.

    Again, the hardest thing here is a mental hurdle that must be overcome – our indoctrination over, or simple weariness of, the constitutional law of this country. But again, once this is achieved, the final solution is elegantly simple. For more on this, see the Maori Customary Law website, which helps hapu to stand in their own Sovereignty by providing template documents for filing with the Crown. You can also meet Maori sovereignty experts from all around the country, at Te Tii Marae, Waitangi, on 27th and 28th October – Independence Day. For more, see whakaminenga.

    Details about the Food Bill

    The bill is here.

    Under the bill, any “undertaking” (anyone) that “processes” (grows/produces) “food” (plants/anything that can be eaten/plant material/seeds) for “sale” (bartering/offering/giving away/feeding people/selling for reserve bank notes etc) OR that just “sells” (barters, gives away) any “food” (plants, seeds etc) however that “food” is acquired will need to be licensed by the government in some way, or have a specific exemption.

    This is outlined in the Meanings Sections (Sections 8-10, and Section 12) that are appended below in Appendix B.

    The bill is vague on whether seeds are food if for non-grain-producing plants or others where seeds are eaten, like sunflowers. In other words seeds for rice, potatos, kumara, wheat, barley etc are all “food”, but seeds for brassicas may not be… but may also be.

    And further it’s very vague on whether giving away for no reward (amazingly) constitutes “selling” under the bill.

    People may be outraged that they can’t grow carrots and regularly swap them with their neighbour two doors down for his potatoes (or face jail). They will clearly be criminals under this bill.

    However this is all side-show stuff.

    The key factor is seeds. In many cases they specifically are food, of course. Grain seed, seed potatoes, rice, maize, quinoa, many staples etc etc – as the bill stands all these will explicitly be controlled substances, with similar penalties for possession as drugs.

    Regarding not-normally-eaten seeds, it’s a short hop (via a single court ruling probably) that they are “food” by virtue of both being plant material and being “capable of being used for human consumption” (Section 8, see Appendix B below).

    So the Food Bill is wide open for seed control – for staples already, and the rest by dint of a court ruling (after seed banks are raided without warrant and seeds condemned, perhaps, and the actions challenged).

    This being so, the unenforceability of prohibiting people from growing food for local distribution becomes a moot point. No good seeds means no good food (if any food at all) to distribute.

    OK, so that’s the problem… what are the solutions?

    In NZ there are protections against this kind of thing through the Treaty, highlighted in the WAI 262 claim Tribunal findings recently released in relation to taonga species, ie those considered to have human benefit. Such protection is enforceable via the Queen under the 1835 Declaration of Independence, which was reinforced rather than supplanted by the Treaty (Tiriti version, the binding one).

    Simply put, to stop people from being able to trade food they grow, or to get good seeds to grow it, is just basic treason (the crime of betraying one’s country) and a breach of tikanga and thus the Treaty. The solution therefore lies in the Treaty (the Tiriti version, which on the issue of sovereignty/tino rangatiratanga/ “full authority” is upheld by the English law rule of Contra Proferentem in contracts. Thus the Queen is bound to be subject to the “full authority” of regional rangatira by her own laws… and the rangatira can overrule any food police. Hence the Governor-General has veto controls in the Bill – he is the Queen’s representative, and needs veto power to act as the instrument of rangatira where they wish to exercise their authority – anything else is unconstitutional.)

    Again, details of how to use tino rangatiratanga in this way are available via the Maori Customary Law website, which helps hapu to stand in their own Sovereignty by providing template documents for filing with the Crown. You can also meet Maori sovereignty experts from all around the country, at Te Tii Marae, Waitangi, on 27th and 28th October – Independence Day. For more, see whakaminenga.


    Individuals or collectives of people can also contract out from under this legislation by revoking their consent to parliamentary representation. This is done via a properly served Claim of Right. See www.claimofright.org. You can thus nullify your enforceable adherence to legislation enacted by a legislature you are no longer represented in. (See Appendix A.) By serving copies of your claim on all affected parties, you can enforce this contracting out upon agencies that would otherwise assume you’re subject. You file your Notice/Claim via a Notary Public, which leaves nothing up for any dispute that a judge might otherwise have to adjudicate over, and thus no case to defend.

    It’s also worth noting that due to this point of consent, the legislation is neither in breach of the Tiriti, nor is it treason . This is the only way it can be got away with.

    With luck this is not rabbit-hole stuff for you. It’s actually very simple. By contrast, legislation like the Food Bill is designed to get lost in. It’s 400 pages of mind-bending rubbish. We have the right to not have to consider these bills, nor get lost in them, nor have them apply to us, and to just go about our peaceful business – especially when legislation is enacted by people who don’t read it, nor even have it read to them anymore, and who we’re not represented by anyway if we simply tell them so. Judges uphold this basic truth, one might add. It’s about being right.

    Meanwhile, the Tiriti holds the key for the country as a whole. Judges are sworn to uphold this too, because they have sworn an oath to uphold the law, and the Tiriti is part of our constitutional law. If they don’t uphold it, it’s because not enough people are holding them to account because they are snoozing as to what their human rights are and how they’re about to be seemingly (but not really) taken away. Rather they’ve been given away, by consent.

    http://nzfoodsecurity.org/
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